2020 Elections

[Economizer]

My peer group is sharply divided between those that don't really know what the hell is going on and those who don't give a rat's ass. Once again, I find myself in a middle ground position,?, of being afraid to say diddlysquat to anybody.

[Economizer]

My peer group is sharply divided between those that don't really know what the hell is going on and those who don't give a rat's ass. Once again, I find myself in a middle ground position,?, of being afraid to say diddlysquat to anybody.

[mamselle]

Anyone else starting to wonder what will happen if Trump loses in November and refuses to step down or acknowledge the legitimacy of the election?

I asked that question last fall.

M.

This article discusses the same issue:

   https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/when-does-trump-leave-white-house/613060/

Just since we're wondering....

M.

[nebo113]

NYT reporting that he seems to be self sabotaging his re-election because he doesn't really like the job....just the trappings, which we all knew from the get go.

[mahagonny]

NYT reporting that he seems to be self sabotaging his re-election because he doesn't really like the job....just the trappings, which we all knew from the get go.

...who thought Hillary was going to win.

[nebo113]

NYT reporting that he seems to be self sabotaging his re-election because he doesn't really like the job....just the trappings, which we all knew from the get go.

...who thought Hillary was going to win.

Most everyone thought Hilary would win. 

[marshwiggle]

NYT reporting that he seems to be self sabotaging his re-election because he doesn't really like the job....just the trappings, which we all knew from the get go.

...who thought Hillary was going to win.

Most everyone thought Hilary would win.

I would hope that would make polling firms, news organizations, etc. a little less cocky this time, but I doubt it will.

[mahagonny]

NYT reporting that he seems to be self sabotaging his re-election because he doesn't really like the job....just the trappings, which we all knew from the get go.

...who thought Hillary was going to win.

Most everyone thought Hilary would win.

I would hope that would make polling firms, news organizations, etc. a little less cocky this time, but I doubt it will.

Most of the predictions you can read are meant to influence voting.

[marshwiggle]

NYT reporting that he seems to be self sabotaging his re-election because he doesn't really like the job....just the trappings, which we all knew from the get go.

...who thought Hillary was going to win.

Most everyone thought Hilary would win.

I would hope that would make polling firms, news organizations, etc. a little less cocky this time, but I doubt it will.

Most of the predictions you can read are meant to influence voting.

Yeah, but I'm nostalgic for the time when journalists thought their job was to try and report objectively, rather than to tell people what they were supposed to do. (I know, I'm old....)

[mahagonny]

NYT reporting that he seems to be self sabotaging his re-election because he doesn't really like the job....just the trappings, which we all knew from the get go.

...who thought Hillary was going to win.

Most everyone thought Hilary would win.

I would hope that would make polling firms, news organizations, etc. a little less cocky this time, but I doubt it will.

Most of the predictions you can read are meant to influence voting.

Yeah, but I'm nostalgic for the time when journalists thought their job was to try and report objectively, rather than to tell people what they were supposed to do. (I know, I'm old....)

So here's what I wonder: do these people at the NYT believe Trump is going to lose, are do they have some thought process that allows that they are just cheerleading for their team? Groupthink is powerful stuff.

[Economizer]

Now that the Democrats have, in a statuatory sense, lost the south, they are, via spite, trying to convince the public that the current leading opponent won't be in the race. Smooth move. Who is their strategist?

And:

1. What might the mood of the America  public be now if we had not had a great economy going into the Coved 19 tragedy?

2. Biden campaign is looking for charm in selection of a running mate, or so it seems to me, for 2020. What is his 2024 campaign going to look like?

3. President Trump has a good and dependable VP on the job and familiar with subject matters ongoing. How about that?

Scam a day political tactics in a time of multiple national crisies, in my opinion, just ain't gentlemanly!

[secundem_artem]

Anyone else starting to wonder what will happen if Trump loses in November and refuses to step down or acknowledge the legitimacy of the election?

I asked that question last fall.

M.

This article discusses the same issue:

   https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/when-does-trump-leave-white-house/613060/

Just since we're wondering....

M.

That's only part 1 of the problem.  If Orange Julius loses, do you honestly think 30 million well armed MAGA hats are going to give up that easily? 

[marshwiggle]

Anyone else starting to wonder what will happen if Trump loses in November and refuses to step down or acknowledge the legitimacy of the election?

I asked that question last fall.

M.

This article discusses the same issue:

   https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/06/when-does-trump-leave-white-house/613060/

Just since we're wondering....

M.

That's only part 1 of the problem.  If Orange Julius loses, do you honestly think 30 million well armed MAGA hats are going to give up that easily?

Are you expecting something like the recent rioting and looting?

[quasihumanist]

That's only part 1 of the problem.  If Orange Julius loses, do you honestly think 30 million well armed MAGA hats are going to give up that easily?

Are you expecting something like the recent rioting and looting?

If Trump loses badly enough for the Republican Party to abandon Trumpism, I'm expecting widespread domestic terrorism.  Repeats of the DC sniper attacks paralyzing every major city for months, plus some more dramatic and deadly incidents.

[Thursday's_Child]

That's only part 1 of the problem.  If Orange Julius loses, do you honestly think 30 million well armed MAGA hats are going to give up that easily?

Are you expecting something like the recent rioting and looting?

If Trump loses badly enough for the Republican Party to abandon Trumpism, I'm expecting widespread domestic terrorism.  Repeats of the DC sniper attacks paralyzing every major city for months, plus some more dramatic and deadly incidents.

I hope you're wrong.  Most of these same folks expected widespread attacks once Obama took office and many of them certainly added to their armory and/or got concealed carry permits, etc., in anticipation.  However, they (mostly) didn't initiate any violence - although an awful lot of hate groups formed or grew in size.  Since Biden is an old white male and most consider themselves law-abiding patriots, we'll just have to hope they can remain reasonably calm again, even if Dump tries to twitter-lash them into insurrection.