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#11
General Discussion / Re: What's your weather?
Last post by Langue_doc - Today at 11:31:43 AM
Rain all day, as forecast, but it's going to be a sunny high 50°s all weekend.
#12
Quote from: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: bio-nonymous on March 27, 2024, 06:33:20 AM
Quote from: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 05:27:06 AM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on March 26, 2024, 02:22:42 PMOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance Introduces Bill to Prohibit Universities from Hiring Illegal Aliens

QuoteOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance (R-OH) and Indiana U.S. Representative Jim Banks (R-IN-03) have introduced a bill that would prohibit universities that receive federal funding from hiring illegal aliens.

The bill, titled the College Employment Accountability Act, would specifically amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to "prohibit an institution of higher education that employs unauthorized aliens from receiving funds from federal student assistance or federal institutional aid"

Institutions of higher education would have to participate in the E-Verify Program, which is a federal program that checks the immigration status of all employees, in order to receive federal funds under the bill.

Do universities hire a lot of "illegal aliens?"



They must be unfamiliar with HR protocols in colleges, private and public, where all potential employees have to provide evidence that they are either US citizens or green-card holders authorized to work in the US. There's a name for these one-page forms. Brains seem to be travelling south along the human spine these days!


I-9 forms--my newest RA just had to turn theirs in to get on the payroll! But the point of the legislation might be that ALL institutions don't use the form and to make a unified requirement?--Giving Vance the benefit of the doubt since I do not know the HR policies of all institutions.

Vance is either grandstanding or an ignoramus. The I-9 form and providing HR with the necessary documentation is a requirement for all institutions and workplaces. This is probably a federal requirement.
Quote from: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: bio-nonymous on March 27, 2024, 06:33:20 AM
Quote from: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 05:27:06 AM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on March 26, 2024, 02:22:42 PMOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance Introduces Bill to Prohibit Universities from Hiring Illegal Aliens

QuoteOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance (R-OH) and Indiana U.S. Representative Jim Banks (R-IN-03) have introduced a bill that would prohibit universities that receive federal funding from hiring illegal aliens.

The bill, titled the College Employment Accountability Act, would specifically amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to "prohibit an institution of higher education that employs unauthorized aliens from receiving funds from federal student assistance or federal institutional aid"

Institutions of higher education would have to participate in the E-Verify Program, which is a federal program that checks the immigration status of all employees, in order to receive federal funds under the bill.

Do universities hire a lot of "illegal aliens?"



They must be unfamiliar with HR protocols in colleges, private and public, where all potential employees have to provide evidence that they are either US citizens or green-card holders authorized to work in the US. There's a name for these one-page forms. Brains seem to be travelling south along the human spine these days!


I-9 forms--my newest RA just had to turn theirs in to get on the payroll! But the point of the legislation might be that ALL institutions don't use the form and to make a unified requirement?--Giving Vance the benefit of the doubt since I do not know the HR policies of all institutions.

Vance is either grandstanding or an ignoramus. The I-9 form and providing HR with the necessary documentation is a requirement for all institutions and workplaces. This is probably a federal requirement.

https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/form-i-9-resources/handbook-for-employers-m-274/20-who-must-complete-form-i-9
#13
Quote from: financeguy on Today at 09:11:21 AMTwo things can be true at the same time. If it is the case the plagiarism has occurred but only uncovered due to an outside actor with a different agenda, what do you propose? Let it slide due to the method of discovery?

It's like a child custody case, where one parent accuses the other of child abuse. There's a clear self-interested motivation for the accuser, but if it turns out to be true, then it absolutely needs to be addressed.
#14
Quote from: apl68 on Today at 09:21:22 AM
Quote from: marshwiggle on Today at 08:17:15 AM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on Today at 07:49:32 AMMore conservative desperation.

Sure, but the fact that it can even be framed in terms of expanding intellectual diversity rather than the much more obvious requirement that they adopt the government approved viewpoint is unprecedented. (For contrast, consider the legislation that has been discussed here to prevent public schools from teaching certain viewpoints. That's the much more "normal" action historically.)


If you're saying the the universities have ceded much of the high ground in intellectual freedom debates, and made themselves into easier targets for those who wish them ill, there's a lot of truth to that.

That's it exactly. You said it more clearly that I did.
#15
The State of Higher Ed / Re: NYT: Harvard Plagiarism Re...
Last post by apl68 - Today at 09:27:34 AM
Quote from: financeguy on Today at 09:11:21 AMTwo things can be true at the same time. If it is the case the plagiarism has occurred but only uncovered due to an outside actor with a different agenda, what do you propose? Let it slide due to the method of discovery?

Something almost nobody seems to want to remember anymore is that an unwelcome message from an unwelcome messenger can still be a valid message.  Although honestly, I don't know how many people ever really got that in the first place.  It's sad that this understanding seems to have become such an uncommon attitude within academia.  I thought that bearing things like that in mind was supposed to be one of the things that a good liberal (in the older, nonpartisan sense) education could teach us.  It's one of the most valuable lessons I recall learning from my student years.  It reinforced some things my parents had been trying to teach me.
#16
The State of Higher Ed / Re: Indiana law requires "inte...
Last post by apl68 - Today at 09:21:22 AM
Quote from: marshwiggle on Today at 08:17:15 AM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on Today at 07:49:32 AMMore conservative desperation.

Sure, but the fact that it can even be framed in terms of expanding intellectual diversity rather than the much more obvious requirement that they adopt the government approved viewpoint is unprecedented. (For contrast, consider the legislation that has been discussed here to prevent public schools from teaching certain viewpoints. That's the much more "normal" action historically.)


If you're saying the the universities have ceded much of the high ground in intellectual freedom debates, and made themselves into easier targets for those who wish them ill, there's a lot of truth to that.
#17
Two things can be true at the same time. If it is the case the plagiarism has occurred but only uncovered due to an outside actor with a different agenda, what do you propose? Let it slide due to the method of discovery?
#18
General Discussion / Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Last post by ab_grp - Today at 08:29:18 AM
Good morning!

Got to genius with pangram so far.  Yesterday I got to also QBABM again with final word parka.

And I had no luck on LB again.  That was a tough one.  Congrats, cathwen and ciao_yall! I was wondering if they are trying to make it harder to get a 2fer.  I guess technically you still "win" if you solve within however many words, so maybe they are trying to make it so you have to have a really good vocabulary to see the 2fer words.  Some of the recent solution words have been less common than typical, but on the other hand if you can spot one made up of all these weird letters you probably have a good chance of getting a mate. 

And thanks cathwen and Langue_doc regarding vaccine suggestions and wishes!

Happy solving!
#19
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on Today at 07:49:32 AMMore conservative desperation.

Sure, but the fact that it can even be framed in terms of expanding intellectual diversity rather than the much more obvious requirement that they adopt the government approved viewpoint is unprecedented. (For contrast, consider the legislation that has been discussed here to prevent public schools from teaching certain viewpoints. That's the much more "normal" action historically.)