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little bongo

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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #255 on: September 15, 2020, 10:40:44 AM »
Hmm. Hard to know where to begin with this--lack of coherence impedes meaning, and I'm not sure how we landed in Central Park. Also, I was responding to some transphobia on the DIRE question thread. Nevertheless...

1) I believe the purpose of this thread in particular is just what it says--an "aside." If my aside in this case solves a problem or two, I'm happy to oblige.
2) You and I have actually said the exact same thing (if I'm understanding you correctly, which I might not be, because of the coherence thing)--if we do acknowledge that people see things differently (that is, we stop being bigots), then there is indeed no more problem. So maybe I have solved a problem--yay, me.

As long as nobody asked, here's something else I can solve--or rather, I could solve it if I could arrange for everybody on earth to go back in time and have my 3rd grade teacher. You see, when I was in 3rd grade, I was called out by the teacher for doing something or other. And I protested that so-and-so was doing it, too, and something worse besides.

I was shot down with appropriate speed and alacrity--"We're not talking about so-and-so, are we? We're talking about YOU, Mr. Bongo."

Well, it's Dr. Bongo, now, and we've all passed a lot of water since then. But that lesson stuck with me and apparently very few other people that I come across in the news. When you've done something wrong, you are accountable. For that particular subject, we're not talking about anybody else.  This insight has many, many applications that I won't go into here, but one thing to consider--before you write, or say, "What about this...." just think: were we talking about "this"? I'll bet we weren't.
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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #256 on: September 15, 2020, 12:45:28 PM »
Only disconnect.

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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #257 on: September 19, 2020, 06:05:36 PM »
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Now that's not blatantly racist, is it?

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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #258 on: September 25, 2020, 03:53:33 AM »
Thank you, mouseman.

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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #259 on: September 25, 2020, 04:58:22 AM »
That's not an argument.  That is just blatant hostility.  You've been doing that a lot lately.  Are you OK?
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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #260 on: September 25, 2020, 06:11:35 AM »
The poster spends a lot more time writing about the problem here than it would take just to deal with the problem.
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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #261 on: September 25, 2020, 07:12:04 AM »
The poster spends a lot more time writing about the problem here than it would take just to deal with the problem.

Perhaps the fora community has done about all it can to help this person.  Maybe we are enabling/making things worse by continuing to respond and having a new round of the same conversation every few weeks.

It's sad to see someone so miserable/struggling and not finding a way forward after getting so much empathetic advice.

Therapy seems like the next best step for this person.
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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #262 on: September 25, 2020, 07:21:00 AM »
The poster spends a lot more time writing about the problem here than it would take just to deal with the problem.

Perhaps the fora community has done about all it can to help this person.  Maybe we are enabling/making things worse by continuing to respond and having a new round of the same conversation every few weeks.

It's sad to see someone so miserable/struggling and not finding a way forward after getting so much empathetic advice.

Therapy seems like the next best step for this person.

I agree with you but I wasn't referring to that poster.
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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #263 on: September 25, 2020, 08:21:34 AM »
The poster spends a lot more time writing about the problem here than it would take just to deal with the problem.

Perhaps the fora community has done about all it can to help this person.  Maybe we are enabling/making things worse by continuing to respond and having a new round of the same conversation every few weeks.

It's sad to see someone so miserable/struggling and not finding a way forward after getting so much empathetic advice.

Therapy seems like the next best step for this person.

I agree with you but I wasn't referring to that poster.

There are several who resemble that remark.

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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #264 on: September 25, 2020, 08:24:02 AM »
Not liking the answer and not knowing the answer are not the same thing. 

Also, how much you like the advice has no bearing on its soundness.
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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #265 on: September 27, 2020, 12:26:31 PM »
What an unfortunate juxtaposition of posts.  Disturbing image.
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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #266 on: September 28, 2020, 07:56:00 AM »
"Pish posh" is a thing I'm trying out.

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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #267 on: September 28, 2020, 09:16:57 AM »
<unrelated>

H. Sebastian Chr-st on a f-cking bicycle, were we even discussing those two???? What is the f-cking title of the f-cking forum?????

Hm, maybe this should have been a vent.

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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #268 on: September 28, 2020, 10:37:03 AM »
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A stale doughnut is a concept with which I am not familiar.

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Re: Post your asides here
« Reply #269 on: September 28, 2020, 01:16:57 PM »
"Pish posh" is a thing I'm trying out.

My favorite use is in the title of a children's book, "Pish, Posh Said Hieronymus Bosch"

   https://www.amazon.com/Nancy-Willard-Pish-Hieronymus-Bosch/dp/B000WQP804#reader_B000WQP804

I've read it to classes and sent it as gifts to friends' children...it's gorgeous, hilarious, and one of my treasures.

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Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding.

Reprove not a scorner, lest they hate thee: rebuke the wise, and they will love thee.

Give instruction to the wise, and they will be yet wiser: teach the just, and they will increase in learning.