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Started by marceltr, January 10, 2020, 06:24:46 AM

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marceltr

What is the difference between jealous and envious?

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Quote from: marceltr on January 10, 2020, 06:24:46 AM
What is the difference between jealous and envious?

I am jealous of my reputation; you are envious of it.

In practice, there is little differentiation any longer between these terms.

nebo113

Quote from: marceltr on January 10, 2020, 06:24:46 AM
What is the difference between jealous and envious?

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marceltr

Thank you so much, my friends. But I need people opinion...and huge definition.

AJ_Katz

Sounds like we've been wrangled into completing someone's homework assignment.

writingprof

Quote from: marceltr on January 11, 2020, 04:21:52 AM
But I need people opinion...and huge definition.

Might this be someone's new signature line?

dr_codex

I'll play...

Rene Girard, in A Theater of Envy, distinguishes between "envy" and "jealousy". We envy what somebody actually, demonstrably has. Jealousy, by contrast, is always a fantasy; it is imagining somebody taking away we have, or think we have.

In Othello, to take the canonical example, Iago envies Cassio's newly promoted position. But Othello's jealousy arises out of fantasy, as both Othello and Emilia well know. it is not based in reality, and cannot be falsified by an appeal to reality. Less familiar, but equally potent, is Leontes' jealousy in The Winter's Tale; Leontes has a great speech in which he says that he would have lived happily in ignorance, but now has seen "the spider in the cup". He's imagining the spider, of course, but the problem is that he cannot un-imagine it.

If you want something more current, there's The Killers' "Mr. Brightside":

Coming out of my cage
And I've been doing just fine
Gotta gotta be down
Because I want it all
It started out with a kiss
How did it end up like this?
It was only a kiss, it was only a kiss
Now I'm falling asleep
And she's calling a cab
While he's having a smoke
And she's taking a drag
Now they're going to bed
And my stomach is sick
And it's all in my head
But she's touching his chest now
He takes off her dress now
Let me go
And I just can't look, it's killing me
And taking control

Jealousy, turning saints into the sea
Swimming through sick lullabies
Choking on your alibis
But it's just the price I pay
Destiny is calling me
Open up my eager eyes
'Cause I'm Mr. Brightside

***

The people have spoken. Bigly.
back to the books.

pepsi_alum

In the social sciences, "jealousy" is considered to be a protective emotion that involves fear of losing a relationship or benefit of some sort. "Envy" doesn't have an element of protection; we just wish we could have that same experience.

Example: if your best friend is taking a trip to Spain and you wish you could go too, that's envy. If your best friend is taking a trip to Spain with a new friend who is freezing you out and you fear you might lose the friendship as a result, that's jealousy.

marceltr

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Quote from: marceltr on January 11, 2020, 04:21:52 AM
Thank you so much, my friends. But I need people's opinion...and huge definition like in this article about [spam removed].
Thank you all. I appreciate it.

Parasaurolophus

Spam removed, spammer gone. Thanks for the reports, friends!

Carry on.
I know it's a genus.