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Title: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: egilson on July 19, 2019, 11:20:22 AM
Any of us left? I turn in my packet on October 31. My to-do list is a mix of regular and packet-specific stuff:

- finish revising and submit the revise-and-resubmit by mid-August
- finish the grant application by mid-September
- ask outside people to write for me
- go through the box of stuff and get copies of the stuff I don't have
- write the narratives
- put it all in its binder

Our T&P are two separate processes (don't ask). I'm pretty confident of tenure given everything I've done and the feedback I've been getting for several years but less confident of promotion because it's much more of a crapshoot. I only have to get tenure, but I don't get a raise unless I'm promoted.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: drbrt on July 19, 2019, 01:44:30 PM
I turn in my packet September 15.

I am scrambling to prep five studies for fall, write one last grant, and get in one last manuscript.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: mamselle on July 24, 2019, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: drbrt on July 19, 2019, 01:44:30 PM
I turn in my packet September 15.

I am scrambling to prep five studies for fall, write one last grant, and get in one last manuscript.

Good energy and focus to all!

(Will the cats help organize the..ummm... no, nevermind...)

Seems like just yesterday you took the position.

Hope all goes well.

M.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on July 25, 2019, 12:44:30 PM
Hi Friends, sorry I missed this thread earlier. My materials are due around September 15th too. External review letters have been requested by my chair, and I am still gathering everything and organizing it before I work on my statements for each area.  I had a lot of things happen this summer that are what I consider good timing, including winning a national award (voted on by peers) at a convention, and my first book comes out in three weeks!  I also have an article coming out in the next few months, and am starting to get invited for podcast interviews (new outlet for me).

It is hard for me to work on the materials though because I am teaching two summer courses, and working on manuscripts and research projects simultaneously.  I have been collecting data all month on a new study that is wrapping up soon, submitted one manuscript this summer, have another under review, and three projects in various other stages of analysis.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: Kron3007 on July 25, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
I applied for tenure last year and am now officially tenured!

I know some people find it anti-climactic, and in some senses it is, but for me it has been a huge weight lifted.  Not trying to rub it in, but there is light at the end of the tunnel and this is now the summer of George...

On the flip side, I find myself just as busy and there is no real change in the day to day job, it just seems brighter.  Moving forward, I plan to apply for sabbatical...
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: fast_and_bulbous on July 25, 2019, 04:09:53 PM
Quote from: Kron3007 on July 25, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
I applied for tenure last year and am now officially tenured!

I know some people find it anti-climactic, and in some senses it is, but for me it has been a huge weight lifted.  Not trying to rub it in, but there is light at the end of the tunnel and this is now the summer of George...

On the flip side, I find myself just as busy and there is no real change in the day to day job, it just seems brighter.  Moving forward, I plan to apply for sabbatical...

Congratu-frickin'-lations. That is a huge load off your shoulders, eh?

I think it's good that there's no change, you're just as busy. I've seen some folks slow down too much after tenure and never regain their footing.

Sabbaticals are wonderful things. I had one before I left my previous U. It was a year long one at half salary, but I managed to get enough research money to not take much of a pay cut. I think a sabbatical is really a sabbatical only if you leave your U but I know how not everyone can swing that. I'd be interested in whether you are going to shoot for a semester or a year or...

Again, congratulations on getting tenure.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: mamselle on July 25, 2019, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Kron3007 on July 25, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
I applied for tenure last year and am now officially tenured!

I know some people find it anti-climactic, and in some senses it is, but for me it has been a huge weight lifted.  Not trying to rub it in, but there is light at the end of the tunnel and this is now the summer of George...

On the flip side, I find myself just as busy and there is no real change in the day to day job, it just seems brighter.  Moving forward, I plan to apply for sabbatical...

Joining in the celebration.

We might need a pool party at the new clubhouse for this, yes?

M.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: Kron3007 on July 26, 2019, 09:41:02 AM
Quote from: fast_and_bulbous on July 25, 2019, 04:09:53 PM
Quote from: Kron3007 on July 25, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
I applied for tenure last year and am now officially tenured!

I know some people find it anti-climactic, and in some senses it is, but for me it has been a huge weight lifted.  Not trying to rub it in, but there is light at the end of the tunnel and this is now the summer of George...

On the flip side, I find myself just as busy and there is no real change in the day to day job, it just seems brighter.  Moving forward, I plan to apply for sabbatical...

Congratu-frickin'-lations. That is a huge load off your shoulders, eh?

I think it's good that there's no change, you're just as busy. I've seen some folks slow down too much after tenure and never regain their footing.

Sabbaticals are wonderful things. I had one before I left my previous U. It was a year long one at half salary, but I managed to get enough research money to not take much of a pay cut. I think a sabbatical is really a sabbatical only if you leave your U but I know how not everyone can swing that. I'd be interested in whether you are going to shoot for a semester or a year or...

Again, congratulations on getting tenure.

Yeah, if anything my lab is ramping up so no worries about regaining my footing, more just keeping it...  I have a group of grad students just about to defend, another group that started recently, and a couple more that will begin soon.  As a result, I am in a big transition period with a bit of shift in focus.  I hope to use this transition to reorganizeize and re-tool a bit, trying to maintain what I did well and learn from areas I need to improve.  It's interesting to see the shift in lab dynamics during these periods and this is the first major one I have seen from this side of the desk.     

I am really looking forward to the sabbatical (huge surprise right?).  Here it will be 2 semesters at full pay, but we cannot pay ourselves from research money anyway (Canada).  After the first sabbatical we have the option to take a 1 semester sabbatical after 3 years or 2 semesters after 6; I may start taking 1 semester sabbaticals moving forward if I can time it to get out of my less preferred teaching semester.   

I will likely take a few trips to various places while on sabbatical, but we have small children (some in school), so any extended travel would be difficult for now.  When they are a little older I would definitely love to go live abroad somewhere for a semester (This is a bit of a dream of mine and I think it would be great for the kids), but for now that would be difficult. 

   
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: Kron3007 on July 26, 2019, 09:41:52 AM
Quote from: mamselle on July 25, 2019, 06:50:26 PM
Quote from: Kron3007 on July 25, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
I applied for tenure last year and am now officially tenured!

I know some people find it anti-climactic, and in some senses it is, but for me it has been a huge weight lifted.  Not trying to rub it in, but there is light at the end of the tunnel and this is now the summer of George...

On the flip side, I find myself just as busy and there is no real change in the day to day job, it just seems brighter.  Moving forward, I plan to apply for sabbatical...

Joining in the celebration.

We might need a pool party at the new clubhouse for this, yes?

M.

The weather is quite perfect for it, at least it looks like it from my office window.... 
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: AJ_Katz on July 26, 2019, 10:32:15 AM
Quote from: Kron3007 on July 25, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
I applied for tenure last year and am now officially tenured!

I know some people find it anti-climactic, and in some senses it is, but for me it has been a huge weight lifted.  Not trying to rub it in, but there is light at the end of the tunnel and this is now the summer of George...

On the flip side, I find myself just as busy and there is no real change in the day to day job, it just seems brighter.  Moving forward, I plan to apply for sabbatical...

I'm in the same boat, a couple of students finished this summer, a couple more should finish in the fall, and on-boarding at least one new person this fall.  I am not sure whether to take sabbatical.  At this point, I feel more interested in opportunities to get into leadership within my institution.  Also, having worked with a visiting scientist who was on a sabbatical when I was a postdoc and seeing what a rough time hu had (not given a lot of support by PI), I just feel like it's risky to take a sabbatical.  It seems like the best opportunities would be to take a sabbatical with someone you already know.  I would also be nervous about being so far away from the lab group.  I meet with most of them once or twice a week and also have a lab meeting, so I don't know how things would turn out if I were not here to be involved.  What's your strategy?
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: Kron3007 on July 26, 2019, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: AJ_Katz on July 26, 2019, 10:32:15 AM
Quote from: Kron3007 on July 25, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
I applied for tenure last year and am now officially tenured!

I know some people find it anti-climactic, and in some senses it is, but for me it has been a huge weight lifted.  Not trying to rub it in, but there is light at the end of the tunnel and this is now the summer of George...

On the flip side, I find myself just as busy and there is no real change in the day to day job, it just seems brighter.  Moving forward, I plan to apply for sabbatical...

I'm in the same boat, a couple of students finished this summer, a couple more should finish in the fall, and on-boarding at least one new person this fall.  I am not sure whether to take sabbatical.  At this point, I feel more interested in opportunities to get into leadership within my institution.  Also, having worked with a visiting scientist who was on a sabbatical when I was a postdoc and seeing what a rough time hu had (not given a lot of support by PI), I just feel like it's risky to take a sabbatical.  It seems like the best opportunities would be to take a sabbatical with someone you already know.  I would also be nervous about being so far away from the lab group.  I meet with most of them once or twice a week and also have a lab meeting, so I don't know how things would turn out if I were not here to be involved.  What's your strategy?

A lot of people here dont actually go anywhere while on sabbatical, it just relieves them from teaching/service and they focus on writing, applying for grants, etc.
I suspect that I will do this and use the time to catch up on writing articles, perhaps write a review article, focus on grants (perhaps try to put together a larger collaborative grant), etc.  I will also likely take a few smaller trips to visit various labs, attend more conferences, etc., but will be present for the most part.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on July 27, 2019, 03:42:22 PM
Quote from: Kron3007 on July 25, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
I applied for tenure last year and am now officially tenured!

I know some people find it anti-climactic, and in some senses it is, but for me it has been a huge weight lifted.  Not trying to rub it in, but there is light at the end of the tunnel and this is now the summer of George...

On the flip side, I find myself just as busy and there is no real change in the day to day job, it just seems brighter.  Moving forward, I plan to apply for sabbatical...

Woohoo! Doing a happy dance for you!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: mamselle on July 28, 2019, 10:15:08 AM
Quote from: darkstarrynight on July 27, 2019, 03:42:22 PM
Quote from: Kron3007 on July 25, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
I applied for tenure last year and am now officially tenured!

I know some people find it anti-climactic, and in some senses it is, but for me it has been a huge weight lifted.  Not trying to rub it in, but there is light at the end of the tunnel and this is now the summer of George...

On the flip side, I find myself just as busy and there is no real change in the day to day job, it just seems brighter.  Moving forward, I plan to apply for sabbatical...

Woohoo! Doing a happy dance for you!

Come join us at the pool party at the Clubhouse!

Dancers very very welcome!

M.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: emprof on August 02, 2019, 06:50:46 PM
Hi all!  I was in the 2013 Tenure Cohort under a different name. I stopped the clock when my daughter was born, so now I'm going up this year with you all!

And honestly, I'm having a ROUGH time. I've met the publication requirements, have a big teaching award, done service out the wazoo, had coffee with everyone in the department regularly for 2 years (or the equivalent). But I really wanted one more publication to put me over the top, and instead I got a desk rejection from the journal this summer. Colleagues who've read it say it's a strong piece that just need some tweaking, so I'm hoping it'll be accepted elsewhere by the end of fall semester. But OUCH, like I needed anything to make me even more paranoid this year.

My list of suggested external reviewers is due to the chair in September, materials for the reviewers go out October 15. I can add to the file until December 1.

My to-do list:

- Make list of suggested external reviewers for the chair
- Revise and send that article off to a second journal
- Update narratives from my reappointment file and send to mentor for critique
- Insert all the Extra Stuff I've done since then
- Finish my book manuscript so it can go in the file
- Submit a session to a conference
- Finish a book review
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on August 04, 2019, 09:20:48 AM
Quote from: emprof on August 02, 2019, 06:50:46 PM
Hi all!  I was in the 2013 Tenure Cohort under a different name. I stopped the clock when my daughter was born, so now I'm going up this year with you all!

And honestly, I'm having a ROUGH time. I've met the publication requirements, have a big teaching award, done service out the wazoo, had coffee with everyone in the department regularly for 2 years (or the equivalent). But I really wanted one more publication to put me over the top, and instead I got a desk rejection from the journal this summer. Colleagues who've read it say it's a strong piece that just need some tweaking, so I'm hoping it'll be accepted elsewhere by the end of fall semester. But OUCH, like I needed anything to make me even more paranoid this year.

My list of suggested external reviewers is due to the chair in September, materials for the reviewers go out October 15. I can add to the file until December 1.

My to-do list:

- Make list of suggested external reviewers for the chair
- Revise and send that article off to a second journal
- Update narratives from my reappointment file and send to mentor for critique
- Insert all the Extra Stuff I've done since then
- Finish my book manuscript so it can go in the file
- Submit a session to a conference
- Finish a book review

Congratulations on the birth of your daughter and the joy she brings to you! I have so many things held up with journals which can be so frustrating.  However, your other accomplishments are amazing!  At least you know what your publication requirements are - mine are very vague.  My colleague at a peer institution told me a book is worth seven articles in her department.  I am not in a book field but I am hopeful my book which comes out in less than two weeks is worth at least an article.  I have lots of articles but am not sure what the requirement is and I know my count is low compared to what some colleagues in other departments in my college suggest would be the sum of an average recommended number per year.  It is what it is at this point!  I cannot stress about what is out of my control, right?  Too much of how we are evaluated rests with slow journal review processes.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: AJ_Katz on August 23, 2019, 10:00:34 AM
Hi everyone!  I am starting this fall as an associate professor and, just yesterday, received a copy of the department's P&T guidelines that I got to see for the very first time.

Oh, the joy of working in a small, collegial yet dysfunctional department.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: TarHawk on September 06, 2019, 10:54:51 AM
Hi, all! I'm up for tenure this fall. I first went on TT in 2010, but I left for my current job in 2014, so I switched to this cohort as a result.

Going on sabbatical last fall was just the lift I needed. I used it to complete my first book, which came out this summer, and I've presented and published refereed research at a steady clip since I arrived. My first advisee graduated last spring, and I love working with all my students.

I turned in the last of my packet last week. My fingers are crossed. I'm nervous as all get-out, though I have heard reassuring things from senior colleagues. 
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on September 10, 2019, 03:51:43 PM
That is great, TarHawk! My materials are due in two weeks and are about 90% is completed at this point. My book just came out last month (good timing!) so that feels good, and I just got nominated by a colleague for my college's biennial research award. Luckily the materials for that are due the same day as my tenure & promotion materials are due also, so that should be relatively easy to put together.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: Vhagar on September 16, 2019, 10:12:49 AM
I am up for tenure this year. All of my teaching evaluations were done last year. I wrote my statements in the spring so my department head could send them to external reviewers early in the summer. I turned in my stuff in early July, before a much-needed extended vacation. My committee members still had to do their letters, but my part was done. The departmental committee is short two members who can vote on tenure cases (because there are a couple of assistant professors who cannot vote above rank), so we had an election last week to vote on two faculty who would only do my tenure case -- which felt a little weird to vote in. I'll know if my case passes the department and college by winter break, but it won't go to campus until late spring.

Meanwhile, I'm quietly on the market. I like to think my case is fine. I would have liked to have brought in more grant money (as others in my department have done) but have been told -- by more than one person -- that it's not an expectation for my subfield. My research, on the whole, could probably be stronger. I had a couple of rough years, due to some program revision. I've recovered well since. My teaching is very strong. In any case, I have had a couple of people say that it's just a good time to go on the market. If I'm ever going to move, it would probably be now. Not that I plan to.

On a related note, the chair of my tenure committee has been amazing, start to finish. Does anyone know if a gift is customary? Or just a hardy thank you?
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: AJ_Katz on September 16, 2019, 11:28:45 AM
Quote from: Vhagar on September 16, 2019, 10:12:49 AM
On a related note, the chair of my tenure committee has been amazing, start to finish. Does anyone know if a gift is customary? Or just a hardy thank you?

Perhaps a nice thank you note with a personal message would be sufficient.  I've also heard people say that you should write a letter to thank your former graduate advisors, since this is a big step in a career. 
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: Kron3007 on September 17, 2019, 05:08:31 AM
Quote from: AJ_Katz on September 16, 2019, 11:28:45 AM
Quote from: Vhagar on September 16, 2019, 10:12:49 AM
On a related note, the chair of my tenure committee has been amazing, start to finish. Does anyone know if a gift is customary? Or just a hardy thank you?

Perhaps a nice thank you note with a personal message would be sufficient.  I've also heard people say that you should write a letter to thank your former graduate advisors, since this is a big step in a career.

I would just say thanks you, they were really just doing their job and anything more (like a gift) would be in appropriate IMO. 

Regarding previous advisors, I thanked them for all their support etc when I got the TT job, but not for tenure.  This seems appropriate to me, but I am not huge on this type of thing.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on September 24, 2019, 11:48:53 AM
My materials are due tomorrow. I submitted the research award materials yesterday and now am waiting for an article to post that is supposed to be out in "August or September" according the journal's editor. I bet it will come out Thursday after my materials are submitted. I included the submitted manuscript and in production e-mail from the editor, but this has been a two year struggle to get it published in this journal. I cannot wait until this is in the P&T process and I can stress about other things, like the manuscript I have due on October 1st. Onward...
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: AJ_Katz on September 24, 2019, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: darkstarrynight on September 24, 2019, 11:48:53 AM
My materials are due tomorrow. I submitted the research award materials yesterday and now am waiting for an article to post that is supposed to be out in "August or September" according the journal's editor. I bet it will come out Thursday after my materials are submitted. I included the submitted manuscript and in production e-mail from the editor, but this has been a two year struggle to get it published in this journal. I cannot wait until this is in the P&T process and I can stress about other things, like the manuscript I have due on October 1st. Onward...

Congratulations!  Good luck!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: Vhagar on September 24, 2019, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: darkstarrynight on September 24, 2019, 11:48:53 AM
My materials are due tomorrow. I submitted the research award materials yesterday and now am waiting for an article to post that is supposed to be out in "August or September" according the journal's editor. I bet it will come out Thursday after my materials are submitted. I included the submitted manuscript and in production e-mail from the editor, but this has been a two year struggle to get it published in this journal. I cannot wait until this is in the P&T process and I can stress about other things, like the manuscript I have due on October 1st. Onward...

It may be too late (if things are due tomorrow), but I was in a similar situation at the start of the summer. My materials needed to go out for review and I was waiting for an article to come out. The journal had been waiting for space in the fall volume. I emailed the editor and explained the situation and she sent me the article to include with my tenure materials.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on September 27, 2019, 02:58:57 PM
Quote from: Vhagar on September 24, 2019, 02:39:33 PM
Quote from: darkstarrynight on September 24, 2019, 11:48:53 AM
My materials are due tomorrow. I submitted the research award materials yesterday and now am waiting for an article to post that is supposed to be out in "August or September" according the journal's editor. I bet it will come out Thursday after my materials are submitted. I included the submitted manuscript and in production e-mail from the editor, but this has been a two year struggle to get it published in this journal. I cannot wait until this is in the P&T process and I can stress about other things, like the manuscript I have due on October 1st. Onward...

It may be too late (if things are due tomorrow), but I was in a similar situation at the start of the summer. My materials needed to go out for review and I was waiting for an article to come out. The journal had been waiting for space in the fall volume. I emailed the editor and explained the situation and she sent me the article to include with my tenure materials.

This is a good suggestion, but last time I wrote the editors (in January, after getting no replies the first three times last Fall) to ask when the article was coming out since three authors are on the TT and needed to know, the response was very snarky. It was something like "We are extremely busy but it will be out in the August/September issue." Now it is almost October. Blah!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on October 25, 2019, 08:06:33 AM
The article came out yesterday, and my department promised to include it in hu's letter even though it is too late to add it to my materials. Another TT faculty member in my department is an author too so I am excited to show we collaborated across disciplines. I just feel relieved...everything is in, the article came out, and I can finish out 2019 focusing on other stuff.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: AJ_Katz on October 25, 2019, 11:21:33 AM
Quote from: darkstarrynight on October 25, 2019, 08:06:33 AM
The article came out yesterday, and my department promised to include it in hu's letter even though it is too late to add it to my materials. Another TT faculty member in my department is an author too so I am excited to show we collaborated across disciplines. I just feel relieved...everything is in, the article came out, and I can finish out 2019 focusing on other stuff.

That's great news!  Congrats
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on October 28, 2019, 10:39:34 AM
Thanks. We have a department meeting shortly and then the voting faculty will meet to discuss my materials. I feel positive today!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: drpepper on October 28, 2019, 07:01:20 PM
Hi all! Best wishes to those of you who, like me, are waiting on a decision. My materials were due in early September. Based on conversations with other colleagues, we seem to get more feedback throughout the process than candidates at other institutions. I've already heard from my department-level committee, and the feedback was very positive. Next step is to hear from the college-level committee and Dean in at the end of the year before final decisions in the middle of the spring semester. I am enjoying what is starting to feel like less pressure now that the portfolio is out of my hands.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on October 29, 2019, 06:32:32 PM
Quote from: drpepper on October 28, 2019, 07:01:20 PM
Hi all! Best wishes to those of you who, like me, are waiting on a decision. My materials were due in early September. Based on conversations with other colleagues, we seem to get more feedback throughout the process than candidates at other institutions. I've already heard from my department-level committee, and the feedback was very positive. Next step is to hear from the college-level committee and Dean in at the end of the year before final decisions in the middle of the spring semester. I am enjoying what is starting to feel like less pressure now that the portfolio is out of my hands.

Yay drpepper! I was very surprised (in a good way) to be asked by my department chair to stop by hu's office on my way out after teaching. Hu told me that the department voted unanimously for both my tenure and promotion, and hu is now preparing a letter for the college committee and dean. I shared the good news with my family but of course, this is just the first step in the long process. I hear Paul Simon singing, "Feeling groovy!"
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: mamselle on October 29, 2019, 07:42:25 PM
Strong good positive happy-jumping thoughts!

M.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: Vhagar on November 01, 2019, 10:01:07 AM
In our department, the whole process is very quiet and weirdly behind closed doors. My department head told me that I have passed the department and moved to the college -- but she actually wasn't supposed to tell me even that. I have no idea how positive or negative the discussion was and I (likely) never will. But, good to know I'm passed the first hurdle.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on November 04, 2019, 11:00:00 AM
Yay, Vhagar! Same boat here!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: emprof on November 12, 2019, 08:09:43 AM
Congrats to you both on passing the department vote!

My file is due next month (votes in Jan-Feb) and I just got word my article was accepted! Pending some revisions, but still, great news.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on November 12, 2019, 11:40:30 AM
Yahoo, emprof! I got a copy of my department chair's letter to the dean this morning, and shared with a colleague who has been a wonderful supporter of me. She stopped by my classroom this morning just to give me a high five before class started! That was nice!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: TarHawk on February 14, 2020, 08:04:10 AM
Hey all. Just re-upping the thread. I learned early this semester that my dean recommended me for tenure and promotion, so my case is now in the hands of the campus committee and provost. Meanwhile I look for signs. Those hits on my research and "about me" sections of my website: Are they signs the committee is weighing my case? Limbo is a strange place. Can anyone relate?
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: Cheerful on February 14, 2020, 10:50:23 AM
Quote from: TarHawk on February 14, 2020, 08:04:10 AM
Hey all. Just re-upping the thread. I learned early this semester that my dean recommended me for tenure and promotion, so my case is now in the hands of the campus committee and provost. Meanwhile I look for signs. Those hits on my research and "about me" sections of my website: Are they signs the committee is weighing my case? Limbo is a strange place. Can anyone relate?

Congrats on so far, so good in the process!

Is there a chair of your tenure committee and/or a chair of your dept.?  Those people should be able to tell you when your case is up for review by the university committee and when a vote is likely.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: AJ_Katz on February 16, 2020, 11:59:17 AM
I was told that the biggest decision was the department's and that most other decisions up the chain were unlikely to disagree with the department's decision...  however, three senior faculty member from different departments, and on different occasions, warned me that it's not official until it was signed off at the very top and that sometimes denials occur as a byproduct of political fallout (ex. new big wig administrator wanting to increase tenure standards).

Sending you positive vibes, TarHawk!!  Now is a good time to reflect and start thinking about what the next phase of your career might look like in comparison.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: drpepper on February 16, 2020, 06:07:28 PM
Thinking of those of you who are, like me, still waiting on decisions. Our process is really transparent and per the calendar, I am supposed to receive the University-level committee decision tomorrow (Department and College were a thumbs-up). After tomorrow comes formal notification from the president in about a month. It's rare that things change as they go up the committee structure at my institution, but it's not over till it's over.

I have really appreciated having formal notification dates -- I think about the process around those dates, but not much outside of that. Since the last time I posted my sabbatical for next year was also approved, so that is a good sign.

Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on February 18, 2020, 05:35:29 PM
Hi Colleagues! Last week I received my letter from our council of deans which was a great relief. I also received my annual review from my department which showed "exceeded expectations" in all categories. I am feeling great, but will not hear from the provost until mid-March. At that point, it is pretty much a done deal, but still requires approval from our president and board of regents. The public announcement to campus occurs in April, so I cannot publicize anything until then. However, unanimous votes at the department, college, and council of deans levels are solid enough for me! I have not been promoted at work since I was a student worker in college, so the promotion part of this is just as cool as the tenure part for me!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: emprof on February 25, 2020, 10:40:27 PM
Hi all! My file received unanimous support at the Department level, and the letters were very nice. It's now with the College committee, where I'm told the "strong and unanimous" cases receive little attention. Fingers crossed for good news from them and the dean next month. The dean is new this year, so nobody knows what he'll do!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: Phydeaux on February 26, 2020, 01:14:02 PM
I have positive letters from the department P&T committee and chair, and I hear through the grapevine that I have nothing to worry about with the college committee. So far, so good!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on March 10, 2020, 03:40:53 PM
I received my letter from the Provost today and am officially promoted and tenured, woohoo! I am celebrating with a topo chico and making a delicious dinner.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: mamselle on March 10, 2020, 04:09:28 PM
Yea!! Good for your!

We need a pool party.

Starting here, now....

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M.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: AJ_Katz on March 13, 2020, 09:20:07 AM
Quote from: emprof on February 25, 2020, 10:40:27 PM
Hi all! My file received unanimous support at the Department level, and the letters were very nice. It's now with the College committee, where I'm told the "strong and unanimous" cases receive little attention. Fingers crossed for good news from them and the dean next month. The dean is new this year, so nobody knows what he'll do!

Sending positive vibes, emprof!  That's great news!

Quote from: Phydeaux on February 26, 2020, 01:14:02 PM
I have positive letters from the department P&T committee and chair, and I hear through the grapevine that I have nothing to worry about with the college committee. So far, so good!

That is excellent news too, Phydeaux! 

Quote from: darkstarrynight on March 10, 2020, 03:40:53 PM
I received my letter from the Provost today and am officially promoted and tenured, woohoo! I am celebrating with a topo chico and making a delicious dinner.

Congratulations, dsn!!  :D   Time to start dreaming about what the next 4-5 years will look like and making a game plan about how to get to the next level.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: drpepper on March 22, 2020, 08:08:00 PM
I'm glad to see that others are continuing to get good news! I received formal notification from the President last week, so my tenure and promotion is effective with the new academic year. It has felt kind of anticlimactic with all the coronavirus stuff going on -- I had a couple days to move all of my courses online -- but eventually, I will celebrate!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: FishProf on March 23, 2020, 07:36:44 AM
Congrats!
That is, at least, an additional layer of protection for what may come.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: mamselle on March 23, 2020, 08:14:05 AM
Yes, pool party is now set up to celebrate!

Good news!

M.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on March 23, 2020, 08:55:58 PM
Quote from: drpepper on March 22, 2020, 08:08:00 PM
I'm glad to see that others are continuing to get good news! I received formal notification from the President last week, so my tenure and promotion is effective with the new academic year. It has felt kind of anticlimactic with all the coronavirus stuff going on -- I had a couple days to move all of my courses online -- but eventually, I will celebrate!

Yahoo! I am agree on the anticlimactic feeling. Yet I feel pretty grateful for getting through this prior to the pandemic. Our institution did extend the clock for anyone pre-tenure who wants to without any pressure.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: DocBones on April 04, 2020, 07:00:47 AM
I also agree that this has been anticlimactic... I received unanimous votes at the department, school, and university levels. I am waiting for final approval from the Board of Trustees, but this is always a consent agenda rubber stamp (and will happen next Friday). The thing that is really frustrating, however, is that after 4 years as a non-tenure track assistant professor, followed by the 9-year tenure clock in my school of medicine, I have been informed that the likelihood of receiving a salary increase with promotion to associate professor and tenure on July 1 is next to zero...because the university has instituted a hiring and salary freeze. So frustrating...
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: mamselle on April 04, 2020, 11:56:09 AM
Good news of your progress...I hope the salary and hiring issues are revisited next year, after the worst of the viral infestation is over.

M.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: drpepper on April 07, 2020, 04:00:39 PM
DocBones, that would be SO frustrating.... especially after the length of time you've been on the faculty. For us, tenure and promotion increases are divorced from any other decisions about raises (in good years, we have a merit raise pool) and plans for hiring. I hope that at your institution, the salaries of people who were promoted this year are reconsidered next year for some kind of equity adjustment. The job security that comes along with tenure is nice, but it's not especially helpful (and can in some ways feel confining) if we aren't getting compensated fairly for what we do.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: Kron3007 on April 08, 2020, 03:54:41 AM
Yes hopefully the raise comes if/when things get back to normal, but at least we are all still employed.  I have been very appreciative of the security that our job provides right now as many ofu friends have suddenly become unemployed.  I am also very glad I did not join the company that tried to recruit me last year. 

So, I imagine this is frustrating but it is best to focus on the relative position we are in.  Our faculty union will be negotiating a new contract soon and I suspect that the raises we are accustom to will not be included, but at least I will have a good job with decent pay.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on April 13, 2020, 04:49:51 PM
I found out today my college is going to have a virtual celebration for everyone who was promoted and/or tenured. It was unexpected, and it happens to be on my late father's birthday, which seems special since he only has learned about my success by my reading letters I get out loud and hope he is around me watching over. Anyway, it will be my first time celebrating with other people besides my spouse so I am looking for to it, even if it is just another meeting on a screen!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: TarHawk on April 23, 2020, 10:17:07 AM
My dean told me last week that I've been approved for tenure and promotion to associate professor. Emotions: a strange mix of ecstasy, delight, giddiness, decompression. I've been wearing a zenlike smile ever since, which makes me feel guilty given the pandemic. But the added stability makes me feel strong enough to help others more, so I'll try to shake off the guilt with that.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: emprof on June 19, 2020, 02:45:36 PM
I just got the official letter: my tenure file has jumped dutifully through all the hoops, and my promotion has been approved as of July 1! Feels anticlimactic but still good. I suspect I won't really feel it until the fall semester starts. I remember when I got a tenure-track job, I first 'felt' it when I went to a conference and senior colleagues started treating me differently in small but obvious ways, and that's when it hit me that I was 'in'.
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: darkstarrynight on June 20, 2020, 02:02:44 PM
Congratulations, emprof!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: apl68 on June 22, 2020, 10:08:53 AM
Great news!
Title: Re: 2014 Tenure Track Cohort
Post by: mamselle on June 22, 2020, 04:15:49 PM
Starting a pool party for those tenured since the last one!

Docbones, are you in? (Your post indicated a soon-to-be-sent final affirmation, just checking that all went well!)

Three-two--one---

Splash!

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M.