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Title: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: Aster on March 10, 2020, 03:50:00 PM
Has anyone microwaved student papers before?

No, this isn't a joke. A colleague mentioned this to me yesterday, and it got me seriously thinking. I'm sure that most of us have had uncomfortable moments where sneezing and wheezing students cough all over their papers. Or you get papers that appear dirty, stained, spotted with who knows what.

I also know several professors that are unapologetic germaphobes.

For situations like this, what if you could just stick your student's papers into the microwave oven and nuke all those cooties away?

Has anybody done this before?

Paper won't catch fire will it? What about pencil marks?

Paper clips and staples are probably no-goes. So that means that single-sheet assessments would be much easier to nuke. Test forms. What about blue books?

I feel that I am on the edge of a profound epiphany. Please, let's discuss this possible new innovation to the educational workplace!
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: spork on March 10, 2020, 04:02:53 PM
I'm going to respond seriously: I went totally paperless about fifteen years ago. It solved many problems, like "My printer ran out of ink," "My roommate's printer ran out of ink," and "My printer card wouldn't work in the library." Now I know that it reduces my chances of contracting a potentially fatal disease.
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: mamselle on March 10, 2020, 04:03:32 PM
No, but you can microwave (and otherwise torture) Peeps....

   http://www.peepresearch.org/

M.
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: Morden on March 10, 2020, 04:04:37 PM
Paperless has dramatically reduced the number of colds I get each year. And because I mark and return as I go, I also avoid the dreaded paper hand back sadness.

Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: Hegemony on March 10, 2020, 10:31:36 PM
Yes, do it online. I understand that paper can indeed catch fire in the microwave. You may be interested in this thread, "Why did microwaving my exam papers make them catch fire?":

https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=44362.0

The why is not clear, but the fire seems clear.

Plus you have the problem of getting the papers into the microwave without touching them.

Just go for online submissions.
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: apostrophe on March 11, 2020, 12:44:40 AM
Another vote for online submission of papers. Added benefit is that it will help students who are sick with the decision to stay home.
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: Hegemony on March 11, 2020, 05:46:35 AM
Today's relevant tweet:

"My professor just told me that if we get a whiff of smoke it's because another professor put the papers he was grading in the microwave to rid them of any chance of Corona Virus & then the papers caught on fire... I can't make this stuff up people"

https://twitter.com/Lou16em/status/1237399131074768897
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: Aster on March 11, 2020, 06:27:25 AM
Oops, I see that this derailed fast for the professors whose curriculum model allows for digital submission of student documents. My bad.

Lots of us don't do that, or can't do that. Handwritten assignments for example. In-class assessments for another example. Workbooks. Blue Books.

So setting aside the issue of digital submissions for the moment, are there examples of techniques where one can mitigate combustion risks from nuking papers? I mean heck, the world routinely nukes paper packaging associated with food in the microwave. Is that stuff specially treated or of some kind of special paper?
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: VaticanCameos on March 11, 2020, 10:42:56 AM
Microwaves aren't particularly useful for disinfection.  Now, if your colleague has access to a uv light box, that might work better.  In all seriousness, exams are the only assignments my students complete on paper, and I frequently wash my hands or use hand sanitizer while grading.
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: Morden on March 11, 2020, 11:50:07 AM
My students do a lot of inclass writing; almost all of them have some sort of electronic device they can use to submit (including taking pictures of the handwritten page (encourage them to send those by email rather than text)). We still have to do exams in booklets, but at least I'm touching less paper.
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: no1capybara on March 11, 2020, 11:51:20 AM
Aster, the virus only lives for so long, so maybe just put off grading the papers for a week?

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/as-coronavirus-spreads-many-questions-and-some-answers-2020022719004
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: the_geneticist on March 11, 2020, 01:13:36 PM
My cat once vomited on a stack of graded exams.  It was really, really bad.  I waited for them to dry and then ran them through the department copier to give the students a new copy.
Taking out the staples was the most annoying part.  Well, that and explaining to students why I was returning exams later than promised.
Maybe scan them or make new copies?
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: apl68 on March 11, 2020, 01:56:34 PM
Quote from: the_geneticist on March 11, 2020, 01:13:36 PM
My cat once vomited on a stack of graded exams.  It was really, really bad.  I waited for them to dry and then ran them through the department copier to give the students a new copy.
Taking out the staples was the most annoying part.  Well, that and explaining to students why I was returning exams later than promised.
Maybe scan them or make new copies?

What you just said about taking out the staples...maybe a failure to remove staples was what caused the microwave fires mentioned above?
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: Diogenes on March 11, 2020, 02:13:18 PM
DRY PAPER WILL BURN IN THE MICROWAVE AND YES I AM YELLING THIS!
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: apl68 on March 11, 2020, 02:21:15 PM
Guess you have to keep it below Fahrenheit 451.
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: Aster on March 11, 2020, 02:45:56 PM
Quote from: no1capybara on March 11, 2020, 11:51:20 AM
Aster, the virus only lives for so long, so maybe just put off grading the papers for a week?

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/as-coronavirus-spreads-many-questions-and-some-answers-2020022719004

Oh, this isn't a coranavirus thread. This is just a thread inspired by coranavirus events.

I just want to nuke stuff...
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: apl68 on March 11, 2020, 02:54:49 PM
Quote from: Aster on March 11, 2020, 02:45:56 PM
Quote from: no1capybara on March 11, 2020, 11:51:20 AM
Aster, the virus only lives for so long, so maybe just put off grading the papers for a week?

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/as-coronavirus-spreads-many-questions-and-some-answers-2020022719004

Oh, this isn't a coranavirus thread. This is just a thread inspired by coranavirus events.

I just want to nuke stuff...

Glad you don't work for Strategic Air Command!
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: Diogenes on March 12, 2020, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: apl68 on March 11, 2020, 02:21:15 PM
Guess you have to keep it below Fahrenheit 451.

Well done!
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: mamselle on March 12, 2020, 09:26:46 AM
Quote from: Aster on March 11, 2020, 02:45:56 PM
Quote from: no1capybara on March 11, 2020, 11:51:20 AM
Aster, the virus only lives for so long, so maybe just put off grading the papers for a week?

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/as-coronavirus-spreads-many-questions-and-some-answers-2020022719004

Oh, this isn't a coranavirus thread. This is just a thread inspired by coranavirus events.

I just want to nuke stuff...

Go for the Peeps, then...

   http://www.peepresearch.org/

M.
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: no1capybara on March 12, 2020, 01:54:12 PM
Quote from: Aster on March 11, 2020, 02:45:56 PM
Oh, this isn't a coranavirus thread. This is just a thread inspired by coranavirus events.

I just want to nuke stuff...

Oh!  In that case, I suggest foil. 
It will be memorable, I promise.
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: Nightshade on March 12, 2020, 03:09:58 PM
I know someone who has all of his students place their papers/exam booklets into a large garbage bag, into which he then unloads copious amounts of Lysol spray.  After shaking it about vigorously, he dumps the documents out to let them air dry for a day. Voila - no more germs.
Title: Re: Nuking Student Papers
Post by: Parasaurolophus on March 22, 2020, 08:30:18 PM
Quote from: no1capybara on March 12, 2020, 01:54:12 PM
Quote from: Aster on March 11, 2020, 02:45:56 PM
Oh, this isn't a coranavirus thread. This is just a thread inspired by coranavirus events.

I just want to nuke stuff...

Oh!  In that case, I suggest foil. 
It will be memorable, I promise.

How about a grape (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhJy3E9hfg)?