Cancelling Dr. Seuss

[Wahoo Redux]

Since there are young people who are refugees, and actually grew up in war zones, they should be way more stressed out than native- born youth. That doesn't seem to be the case. Also, the most "snowflakey" campuses tend to be ones primarily serving rich white kids.

Can you quantify either of those claims?

[marshwiggle]

Since there are young people who are refugees, and actually grew up in war zones, they should be way more stressed out than native- born youth. That doesn't seem to be the case. Also, the most "snowflakey" campuses tend to be ones primarily serving rich white kids.

Can you quantify either of those claims?

Study finds racial and ethnic identity plays a role in mental health of Gen Z

Young Americans of color are slightly more religious and enjoy better mental health than their white Generation Z counterparts, according to a new study by Springtide Research Institute.

These findings were quantified in spite of the intense racial prejudice and social injustices faced by Black, indigenous and people of color, or BIPOC in the study's terminology.

[marshwiggle]

Prevalence of Mental Health Disorders Among Immigrant, Refugee, and Nonimmigrant Children and Youth in British Columbia, Canada

Findings  In this cohort study that included 470 464 children and youth in British Columbia, Canada, children and youth from immigrant and refugee backgrounds (both first- and second-generation) had a significantly lower diagnostic prevalence of conduct disorder, attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder, and mood/anxiety disorders than their nonimmigrant counterparts, with few exceptions.

[Wahoo Redux]

Loyola student journalist disciplined for recording interview with campus police

[Wahoo Redux]

Prevalence of Mental Health Disorders Among Immigrant, Refugee, and Nonimmigrant Children and Youth in British Columbia, Canada

Findings  In this cohort study that included 470 464 children and youth in British Columbia, Canada, children and youth from immigrant and refugee backgrounds (both first- and second-generation) had a significantly lower diagnostic prevalence of conduct disorder, attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder, and mood/anxiety disorders than their nonimmigrant counterparts, with few exceptions.

Interesting, but part of the issue is that immigrant and refugee kids don't have access to services, so we are not sure of their overall mental health status.

While this seems to indicate that, yeah, these people from highly stressful environments do, in fact, have the trauma we would expect:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9094640/

And before you go talking about "snowflakery rich white kids," consider that probably the biggest snowflakes in the universe are Bud Light drinkers.

[marshwiggle]

Prevalence of Mental Health Disorders Among Immigrant, Refugee, and Nonimmigrant Children and Youth in British Columbia, Canada

Findings  In this cohort study that included 470 464 children and youth in British Columbia, Canada, children and youth from immigrant and refugee backgrounds (both first- and second-generation) had a significantly lower diagnostic prevalence of conduct disorder, attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder, and mood/anxiety disorders than their nonimmigrant counterparts, with few exceptions.

Interesting, but part of the issue is that immigrant and refugee kids don't have access to services, so we are not sure of their overall mental health status.

While this seems to indicate that, yeah, these people from highly stressful environments do, in fact, have the trauma we would expect:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9094640/

And before you go talking about "snowflakery rich white kids," consider that probably the biggest snowflakes in the universe are Bud Light drinkers.

You mean the ones who are still Bud Light drinkers?

[Wahoo Redux]

Prevalence of Mental Health Disorders Among Immigrant, Refugee, and Nonimmigrant Children and Youth in British Columbia, Canada

Findings  In this cohort study that included 470 464 children and youth in British Columbia, Canada, children and youth from immigrant and refugee backgrounds (both first- and second-generation) had a significantly lower diagnostic prevalence of conduct disorder, attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder, and mood/anxiety disorders than their nonimmigrant counterparts, with few exceptions.

Interesting, but part of the issue is that immigrant and refugee kids don't have access to services, so we are not sure of their overall mental health status.

While this seems to indicate that, yeah, these people from highly stressful environments do, in fact, have the trauma we would expect:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9094640/

And before you go talking about "snowflakery rich white kids," consider that probably the biggest snowflakes in the universe are Bud Light drinkers.

You mean the ones who are still Bud Light drinkers?

I mean the ones having the snowflakey temper tantrums because they are so insecure and vapid that they find beer a cultural touchstone.  It's hilarious.

In the meantime...

[Wahoo Redux]

TN bill that allows students to report professors who teach 'divisive concepts' passes House and Senate

[kaysixteen]

Yes, there is no question that Millennials and Zers have had (and almost certainly will continue to have) things much rougher than the average Boomer or Xer, and, of course, it has been Boomers and Xers who have parented the young'uns, and not exactly done a bang-up job of it, either.

[Parasaurolophus]

TN bill that allows students to report professors who teach 'divisive concepts' passes House and Senate

Wow

Looks to me like biologists are screwed, because the bill requires them to teach creationism:

[Forbidden from teaching that] all Americans are not created equal and are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

[Wahoo Redux]

Yes, there is no question that Millennials and Zers have had (and almost certainly will continue to have) things much rougher than the average Boomer or Xer, and, of course, it has been Boomers and Xers who have parented the young'uns, and not exactly done a bang-up job of it, either.

We aaaaalways think that about the younger generations.

[kaysixteen]

No, we don't always think that the younger gens have had it objectively rougher than we and our parents had it.   That has not at all always been the case historically, but it certainly is now.   The list of things the Mills and Zers have had to deal with, just in the 21st c, simply cannot compare to anything that burdened Xers or most Boomers (excepting those who went to Vietnam).

[marshwiggle]

No, we don't always think that the younger gens have had it objectively rougher than we and our parents had it.   That has not at all always been the case historically, but it certainly is now.   The list of things the Mills and Zers have had to deal with, just in the 21st c, simply cannot compare to anything that burdened Xers or most Boomers (excepting those who went to Vietnam).

The Myth of the Broke Millennial

The Millennial income rebound has been broad as well as steep. The income of young adults across racial groups has risen since 2014. By my analysis, Black and Latino Americans ages 25 to 44 in 2021 were making more money than Black and Latino Silents, Boomers, and Gen Xers at the same age. The U.S. is not without economic inequities, many of them racial. But Black and Latino Millennials are not falling behind previous generations when it comes to their income. Instead, most are getting ahead.

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Fewer Millennials were in poverty in 2019 than were Boomers and Gen Xers at the same age (in 1987 and 2004, years in which the economy was likewise strong).

You're right. Millenials and Gen Z haven't had to contend with a 10% inflation rate, and over 20% car loan rates, like I did in 1982.

[Parasaurolophus]

Ah yes, those horrible days when you didn't try to hop onto the labour market during the worst recession since the Great Depression, and when my mother bought a house for one year's income (the same house today would have cost her nine years' income, and that's the cheap part of the country; here, today, a house is at least 42 times what her income was). It sure was tough back then! Especially considering inflation fell to 5.86% in 1983, then kept falling for the next ten years, at which point it remained more or less steady until last year and this year, when it's peaked again.

[marshwiggle]

Ah yes, those horrible days when you didn't try to hop onto the labour market during the worst recession since the Great Depression, and when my mother bought a house for one year's income (the same house today would have cost her nine years' income, and that's the cheap part of the country; here, today, a house is at least 42 times what her income was). It sure was tough back then! Especially considering inflation fell to 5.86% in 1983, then kept falling for the next ten years, at which point it remained more or less steady until last year and this year, when it's peaked again.

The one thing that has steadily increased is expectations. In 1982 I had a small black and white TV, basic cable, and a single landline phone (and of course, no computer of any sort). I never had a cell phone until a couple of years ago. A 20 year old living in their parents' basement today has way more creature comforts (smart phone, computer, internet, streaming services,  etc.) than his/her parents ever dreamed of.  So the lifestyle a young person expects to have on their own was unthinkable to those previous generations at that stage of life.
Professionally, many young people expect to have jobs which will give great work-life balance and promotions within 6 months. Many in tech do a lot of monkey-branching from job to job expecting to get higher pay and status. Ask Boomers how many figured they'd be in management by age 25, or even 30.

Every generation has had challenges; it's just self-absorbed to believe nobody had it worse than you. (And since my parents grew up in the Depression, and went through WWII, I wouldn't pretend to have had a a life even remotely as difficult as theirs.)

More from the article:

Millennials' homeownership rates in 2020 were only slightly behind Boomers' and Gen Xers' at the same age: 50 percent of Boomers owned their own home as 25-to-39-year-olds, compared with 48 percent of Millennials