Quote from: RatGuy on April 30, 2024, 05:50:54 AMQuote from: marshwiggle on April 30, 2024, 04:45:46 AM"Treat others as you would like to be treated" is entirely different than "Treat others as they would like to be treated."
I heartily agree with the former; the latter is a hole with no bottom.
I think you're willfully misunderstanding that quote. And I know your impulse is to respond with "here's what it literally means" and continue spinning in circles. But if you really attribute unfairness, narcissism, and/or maliciousness to the idea that people are asking to be seen as a certain way, I'm not sure anyone on these fora (or elsewhere) can help you understand.
Quote from: apl68 on April 29, 2024, 01:19:38 PMQuote from: spork on April 29, 2024, 10:25:50 AMClosure announcements today:
Wells College, NY
University of Saint Katherine, CA
Either St. Katherine's students and faculty had more to say, or its closure was the more abrupt of the two. Apparently the great majority of their students played sports.
Quote from: marshwiggle on April 30, 2024, 04:45:46 AMQuote from: Wahoo Redux on April 29, 2024, 02:40:49 PMQuote from: marshwiggle on April 29, 2024, 02:15:58 PMQuote from: Wahoo Redux on April 29, 2024, 12:51:02 PMI don't think you quite understand what that phrase means, Marshy.
Why do you say that? The point is that how anyone wants to be treated flies in the face of a society that strives to treat people fairly. In the latter case, if everyone is treated the same, then that effectively means doling out available resources equally. But in the former, if everyone (or every "group") gets to decide what they feel they deserve, that makes no reference to whether that is compatible with the available resources in the context of what everyone else feels they themselves deserve.
It's Kant's categorical imperative simplified.
All it says is treat other people the same way you would want to be treated.
No, that's not what it says.Quote from: Wahoo Redux on April 28, 2024, 05:23:37 PMQuoteAt their core, DEI efforts are aspirations toward and actualizations of the platinum rule ("Do unto others as they would like done to them").
"Treat others as you would like to be treated" is entirely different than "Treat others as they would like to be treated."
I heartily agree with the former; the latter is a hole with no bottom.
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on April 29, 2024, 02:40:49 PMQuote from: marshwiggle on April 29, 2024, 02:15:58 PMQuote from: Wahoo Redux on April 29, 2024, 12:51:02 PMI don't think you quite understand what that phrase means, Marshy.
Why do you say that? The point is that how anyone wants to be treated flies in the face of a society that strives to treat people fairly. In the latter case, if everyone is treated the same, then that effectively means doling out available resources equally. But in the former, if everyone (or every "group") gets to decide what they feel they deserve, that makes no reference to whether that is compatible with the available resources in the context of what everyone else feels they themselves deserve.
It's Kant's categorical imperative simplified.
All it says is treat other people the same way you would want to be treated.
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on April 28, 2024, 05:23:37 PMQuoteAt their core, DEI efforts are aspirations toward and actualizations of the platinum rule ("Do unto others as they would like done to them").