News:

Welcome to the new (and now only) Fora!

Main Menu

Trendy Words I Do Not Like

Started by Cheerful, September 09, 2020, 02:57:02 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Hibush

Quote from: Parasaurolophus on August 23, 2021, 05:27:09 PM
While I do think that 'best' carries a conversational implicature of uniqueness, I think it's a little weaker. It seems to me that it can be equalled--perhaps because 'the best' typically denotes a class of objects rather than a particular individual (e.g. "the best knife is...").

The truth in advertising rules (probably gone now) held that a claim of "better" required objective evidence, whereas "Best" was subjective. Therefore it was ok to advertise that you are selling the best knife, but not practical to advertise that it was better in some way.

dismalist

Quote from: downer on September 01, 2021, 04:19:18 AM
Quote from: dismalist on August 31, 2021, 05:14:46 PM
A post on the "favorite student emails" thread reminded me of  "I'm confused".

"I'm confused" used to be a confession that one was, well, confused. Nowadays, it is used as an accusation, in the sense of "you have caused me to be confused". How did that happen and why?

Sorry, that was me. I phrased my comments to visiting speakers as "I'm confused. You said X but then you said Y, but X implies not-Y." It seemed politer than "You are taking nonsense."

Nothing to be sorry about. I suppose trying to be polite does explain some of the usage, except that ITRW the tone in which "I'm confused" is said amounts to an attack.
That's not even wrong!
--Wolfgang Pauli

ergative

My husband uses 'I was surprised  (to hear) that . . .' in a similar way. It means, in his mouth, 'I thought you were great, but then you did/said this thing that is not great, which surprised and disappointed me, who expected better.'

I don't think he realizes that this is what he means when he says it. I think he thinks he was genuinely surprised by the event. But somehow he only ever says 'I was surprised' about bad things (surprise dishes, surprise errands), not good things (surprise cake, surprise presents). Drives me nuts.

Aster

"mandate".

I really can't use this word much anymore in any context. Not in the U.S., anyway. It's too tied into the over-politicization of the covid pandemic.

dismalist

#304
Plural of collective nouns to end with "s".

Behavior, as written, is many, but uncountable. Behaviors is supposed to be countable. It used to be that "behavior" was sufficient, but "behaviors" seems to be taking over. And there are other words like that. Googling around, I learned that "behaviors" is a term in psychology, social science, and education. Is that true? If so, why not use "behavior"?

Drives me up the wall. :-)
That's not even wrong!
--Wolfgang Pauli

FishProf

Behaviour is collective (as in the totality of what an animal does), but behaviors is a pluralization of specific things.

Mating behavior covers the whole shebang, but mating behaviors refers to the individual aspects (courting, grooming, mate guarding, nest clearing, etc etc).

Note - yes I know I switched British/American spelling along the way above.  It is one of my pernicious behaviors.
I'd rather have questions I can't answer, than answers I can't question.

dismalist

Quote from: FishProf on October 05, 2021, 06:57:34 AM
Behaviour is collective (as in the totality of what an animal does), but behaviors is a pluralization of specific things.

Mating behavior covers the whole shebang, but mating behaviors refers to the individual aspects (courting, grooming, mate guarding, nest clearing, etc etc).

Note - yes I know I switched British/American spelling along the way above.  It is one of my pernicious behaviors.

Yeah, I got the definition. It's the apparent increase in one usage rather than the other that irritated me.

Anyway, checking Ngram, use of the word behavior was always there but peaked before 1980 and has declined a tad since then. Use of the word behaviors is a logistic beginning about 1920 and exploding from 1960. Seems to have peaked right about the present.

I was wondering why.
That's not even wrong!
--Wolfgang Pauli

little bongo

"Orwellian."

I think even George would say, "Enough, now" at this point.

fishbrains

"Robust" has to die. In all forms and in all contexts.
I wish I could find a way to show people how much I love them, despite all my words and actions. ~ Maria Bamford

jimbogumbo

Quote from: dismalist on October 05, 2021, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: FishProf on October 05, 2021, 06:57:34 AM
Behaviour is collective (as in the totality of what an animal does), but behaviors is a pluralization of specific things.

Mating behavior covers the whole shebang, but mating behaviors refers to the individual aspects (courting, grooming, mate guarding, nest clearing, etc etc).

Note - yes I know I switched British/American spelling along the way above.  It is one of my pernicious behaviors.

Yeah, I got the definition. It's the apparent increase in one usage rather than the other that irritated me.

Anyway, checking Ngram, use of the word behavior was always there but peaked before 1980 and has declined a tad since then. Use of the word behaviors is a logistic beginning about 1920 and exploding from 1960. Seems to have peaked right about the present.

I was wondering why.

Like many trendy things it has become the norm?

downer

Quote from: fishbrains on October 06, 2021, 09:24:25 AM
"Robust" has to die. In all forms and in all contexts.

How am I going to describe my preferred olive oil?
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."—Sinclair Lewis

jimbogumbo

Quote from: fishbrains on October 06, 2021, 09:24:25 AM
"Robust" has to die. In all forms and in all contexts.

Not for statistics! That meaning is clear and useful. I'm with you in spirit otherwise, and would like to say the same about "nimble".

little bongo

Quote from: jimbogumbo on October 06, 2021, 09:27:40 AM
Quote from: fishbrains on October 06, 2021, 09:24:25 AM
"Robust" has to die. In all forms and in all contexts.

Not for statistics! That meaning is clear and useful. I'm with you in spirit otherwise, and would like to say the same about "nimble".

Well, we can't get poor Jack over that candlestick without it.

dismalist

Quote from: jimbogumbo on October 06, 2021, 09:27:40 AM
Quote from: fishbrains on October 06, 2021, 09:24:25 AM
"Robust" has to die. In all forms and in all contexts.

Not for statistics! That meaning is clear and useful. I'm with you in spirit otherwise, and would like to say the same about "nimble".

Interesting. My new toy, Ngram, reveals that "robust" really took off around 1980. "Nimble" did as well, but with a much less steep rise, and that after a long decline. Fulfilling my dream of turning the clock back on speech use would not help.
That's not even wrong!
--Wolfgang Pauli

apl68

Quote from: fishbrains on October 06, 2021, 09:24:25 AM
"Robust" has to die. In all forms and in all contexts.

Good luck killing that one off.  Given that it's so...well, you know.
If in this life only we had hope of Christ, we would be the most pathetic of them all.  But now is Christ raised from the dead, the first of those who slept.  First Christ, then afterward those who belong to Christ when he comes.