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The State of Higher Ed / Re: What's your price for a bu...
Last post by Vkw10 - Today at 06:28:02 PMI'd take 6 months salary, a year of health insurance, and payout of my 240 hours of accumulated annual leave. That would cover my lease buyout, moving expenses, and living costs until I found part-time job in fast food.
#2
The State of Higher Ed / Re: Protests and police on cam...
Last post by Wahoo Redux - Today at 06:05:28 PMQuote from: Hibush on Today at 01:00:29 PMQuote from: Wahoo Redux on Today at 11:04:24 AMAsk ourselves: if these were registered students who were members of Storm Front peacefully occupying a campus but refusing to leave after lawfully ordered to, what would we have the cops do?
Jusrisdictions vary as far as what city cops can do. In some places, if registered students are peacefully hanging out in a public space on campus, an order to leave would not be lawful. Campus administration needs to follow whatever due process and regulations apply to their campus. Some seem to have gotten it wrong by jumping in haste.
Okay, but we are talking disrupting and occupying, albeit peacefully, and orders to disperse----not "hanging out."
Big difference.
Edit: dismalist, maybe I am dense, but half the time I don't know what you are posting about.
#3
Teaching / Re: Topic: Bang Your Head on Y...
Last post by the_geneticist - Today at 05:00:42 PMSorry for the double-post, it's getting to be crunch time for our Spring term.
A TA just told me today (it's Week 7) that a student has been arriving at lab 30-60 minutes late EVERY SINGLE WEEK. And the TA has been letting them participate. And giving them credit for their "due at the start of class prelab".
Why didn't the TA tell me the first time this happened? The official policy is that 10 minutes late = you can't participate. And late pre-lab assignments = 0 points.
And the kicker is the TA casually mentioned that the student has been copying their answers from other student worksheets all quarter.
A TA just told me today (it's Week 7) that a student has been arriving at lab 30-60 minutes late EVERY SINGLE WEEK. And the TA has been letting them participate. And giving them credit for their "due at the start of class prelab".
Why didn't the TA tell me the first time this happened? The official policy is that 10 minutes late = you can't participate. And late pre-lab assignments = 0 points.
And the kicker is the TA casually mentioned that the student has been copying their answers from other student worksheets all quarter.
#4
General Discussion / Re: The Venting Thread
Last post by Langue_doc - Today at 04:56:22 PMThanks, AmLitHist. Sending you good wishes for your foot and your teaching and household activities with said foot. Hope you have a good physical therapist.
When I checked the patient portal, it turns out that the doctor's office had contacted CPAP supplier on April 19th directing them to send the supplies to my address that is on file (no need for date of birth verification). Supplier is holding me hostage out of spite because I refused to provide the dob info they (not my insurance) needed. Called the insurance company which was hacked about a month or so ago, and was told that I could hold for about 29 minutes, or the company would call me back. 29 minutes came and went, so I called again only to be told that I had asked to be called back and that I could continue to wait for a phone call. Another 29 minutes came and went, with me calling, and the process being repeated. Now it's three hours since my first phone call, and no call back. To complicate matters, I received a bill demanding payment for the supplementary insurance despite the payment having been acknowledged. I suspect the long hold/wait time was because other patients too had received the letter for payment, not only for this month, but also for June. Aaargh!!! I did leave a message on the patient portal letting them know that I didn't receive the refills, and also another asking for an explanation of the CT Scan results. I have an appointment with a new provider next week so that she can review the results which are on my patient portal and also on a CD. Tomorrow I'll have to call my congressperson, whose office is quite reliable, to handle the CPAP supplies/supplier. The lung/sleep apnea doctor used to be very good, but I suspect he's getting too old to be on top of things. MY PCP (same practice) and the spine doctor (different practice) would have gotten back to me right away, not only to advise me of the ramifications, but also to inform me of other issues that show up in the scans/MRIs/reports.
When I checked the patient portal, it turns out that the doctor's office had contacted CPAP supplier on April 19th directing them to send the supplies to my address that is on file (no need for date of birth verification). Supplier is holding me hostage out of spite because I refused to provide the dob info they (not my insurance) needed. Called the insurance company which was hacked about a month or so ago, and was told that I could hold for about 29 minutes, or the company would call me back. 29 minutes came and went, so I called again only to be told that I had asked to be called back and that I could continue to wait for a phone call. Another 29 minutes came and went, with me calling, and the process being repeated. Now it's three hours since my first phone call, and no call back. To complicate matters, I received a bill demanding payment for the supplementary insurance despite the payment having been acknowledged. I suspect the long hold/wait time was because other patients too had received the letter for payment, not only for this month, but also for June. Aaargh!!! I did leave a message on the patient portal letting them know that I didn't receive the refills, and also another asking for an explanation of the CT Scan results. I have an appointment with a new provider next week so that she can review the results which are on my patient portal and also on a CD. Tomorrow I'll have to call my congressperson, whose office is quite reliable, to handle the CPAP supplies/supplier. The lung/sleep apnea doctor used to be very good, but I suspect he's getting too old to be on top of things. MY PCP (same practice) and the spine doctor (different practice) would have gotten back to me right away, not only to advise me of the ramifications, but also to inform me of other issues that show up in the scans/MRIs/reports.
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General Discussion / Re: Post your asides here
Last post by aside - Today at 04:55:46 PMQuote from: bio-nonymous on April 25, 2024, 07:10:24 AMArguing with people who are sure they are correct is a worthless waste of time.Sez you!
#6
The State of Higher Ed / Re: Protests and police on cam...
Last post by dismalist - Today at 03:34:16 PMQuote from: jimbogumbo on Today at 03:20:11 PMQuote from: dismalist on Today at 01:11:30 PMLooks to me like many campus administrations acted not in haste, but took far too long to call in the cops. Negotiate with trespassers and those interfering with normal operations and the stakes get raised. Give an inch, and the demonstrators take a foot. Have your buildings occupied next.
But so long as glass is not broken during the occupation, the Guardian will call it peaceful protests. No, that's not how it works.
Damn. Hit the wrong button.
Of course police should be called in when things are actually violent (UCLA) or a building is actually occupied (Portland State).
But dismalist...
What would you call "many"? I actually only know of three places where buildings were occupied. Everything else I've read about was outside, in public space.
I'm also curious for some examples from the non-Ivies. What I saw was militarized police being called out to secure what was essentially open space.
Not trespassing, and definitely not violent in the vast majority of instances. I think you (maybe) just don't like The Guardian.
I certainly do not like the Guardian!
The substance that's at stake is when can you break the law, which includes the property rights of the universities affected. Some want those property rights weakened, others want them to be exercised. We're arguing over ownership, as usual.
Put differently, the issue is not the issue. The issue is only the revolution.
As such, I don't give a shit how this turns out for any individual institution. We'll see how they fare afterwards.
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The State of Higher Ed / Re: Protests and police on cam...
Last post by jimbogumbo - Today at 03:20:11 PMQuote from: dismalist on Today at 01:11:30 PMLooks to me like many campus administrations acted not in haste, but took far too long to call in the cops. Negotiate with trespassers and those interfering with normal operations and the stakes get raised. Give an inch, and the demonstrators take a foot. Have your buildings occupied next.
But so long as glass is not broken during the occupation, the Guardian will call it peaceful protests. No, that's not how it works.
Damn. Hit the wrong button.
Of course police should be called in when things are actually violent (UCLA) or a building is actually occupied (Portland State).
But dismalist...
What would you call "many"? I actually only know of three places where buildings were occupied. Everything else I've read about was outside, in public space.
I'm also curious for some examples from the non-Ivies. What I saw was militarized police being called out to secure what was essentially open space.
Not trespassing, and definitely not violent in the vast majority of instances. I think you (maybe) just don't like The Guardian.
#8
The State of Higher Ed / Re: Protests and police on cam...
Last post by marshwiggle - Today at 03:19:32 PMQuote from: jimbogumbo on Today at 12:16:51 PMThis discussion is to me, bizarre. Only a handful of campuses had spaces that prevented students from getting services. And I'm sorry, having police with snipers (IU and OSU) is an amazing overreach even if no heads were bashed. If the Storm Front students were on the quad the cops should do nothing.
And marshwiggle, the name calling in the US would almost certainly be protected free speech in this instance.
Would that include things like racial slurs? Would it include calling people who sympathize with some cause murderers? I'm not clear on the law regarding this sort of thing, but my impression is that those sorts of things, (especially racial slurs), usually seem to be taken pretty seriously with more than a shrug that says"Oh well, nothing we can do about it".
#9
The State of Higher Ed / Re: Protests and police on cam...
Last post by jimbogumbo - Today at 03:12:37 PMQuote from: dismalist on Today at 01:11:30 PMLooks to me like many campus administrations acted not in haste, but took far too long to call in the cops. Negotiate with trespassers and those interfering with normal operations and the stakes get raised. Give an inch, and the demonstrators take a foot. Have your buildings occupied next.
But so long as glass is not broken during the occupation, the Guardian will call it peaceful protests. No, that's not how it works.
#10
The State of Higher Ed / Re: What's your price for a bu...
Last post by dismalist - Today at 03:09:16 PMIt's useful to distinguish between "offer" price, or willingness to pay, which depends on how badly they want to get rid of you and how much cash they got to do it, and the "bid" price, or willingness to accept, which depends upon our personal idiosyncrasies and which is the subject of this thread.
It's hard to say anything systematic: Every institution will differ in its offer, and every individual will differ in his willingness to accept. Thus, the difference between the two -- the surplus -- will differ. One can fight over the surplus, but not more.
However, there is something that can be said about the apparently weird structure of the offered incentive. When the idea of paying faculty to leave started, it was often in the form of a cash emolument to leave. So, who took the option? Only the best faculty! They got new jobs right away. Employer was left with a bunch of losers. Thus, more sophistication: Pay only enough and in a form that the oldest leave. And so on.
There! Now you know why one can be unhappy. :-)
It's hard to say anything systematic: Every institution will differ in its offer, and every individual will differ in his willingness to accept. Thus, the difference between the two -- the surplus -- will differ. One can fight over the surplus, but not more.
However, there is something that can be said about the apparently weird structure of the offered incentive. When the idea of paying faculty to leave started, it was often in the form of a cash emolument to leave. So, who took the option? Only the best faculty! They got new jobs right away. Employer was left with a bunch of losers. Thus, more sophistication: Pay only enough and in a form that the oldest leave. And so on.
There! Now you know why one can be unhappy. :-)