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#91
The State of Higher Ed / Re: IHE: Academic Freedom Batt...
Last post by marshwiggle - February 29, 2024, 10:47:51 AM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on February 29, 2024, 10:06:51 AMIf there is a legitimately dangerous reason for not having rainbow crosswalks, then don't do them.

I thought hate was the only reason for someone to oppose them.


QuoteIf your reason for not having rainbow crosswalks is hate and bigotry (likewise story times at the library), then do them.

If these people are screwing the numbers to make a rainbow crosswalk look dangerous or expensive----and I'd want the hard evidence----then my God yes that is bigotry and hate.

Do not be too fast to believe the extraordinary claims of hatemongers, Marshy.  I kind of doubt the expense or danger angles...

The problem is putting the onus on anyone to "prove" that "hate" isn't their motivation.

How about this from the UVic story?
QuoteCleo Philp, director of campaigns and community relations with the University of Victoria Students' Society, said that money could be used in better ways. "It just feels like throwing money to the wind."

Philp, who is trans and uses she/they pronouns, said "getting the right-coloured crosswalk" is not the solution for making trans people safer on campus. She would prefer that the money spent on consultants go to �student bursaries for low-income trans and queer students instead.

Is that hate??????
#92
The State of Higher Ed / Re: IHE: Academic Freedom Batt...
Last post by Wahoo Redux - February 29, 2024, 10:32:32 AM
And just like people, horses can be trained not to fear and hate new things and ideas.

QuoteTo enable us to ride and patrol safely we had training versions installed with help from @gevekomarkings who donated our new Bright Training crossings. We can get the horses used to them before riding them out in public.

I don't think these crosswalks cost the equivalent of $81K either.
#93
General Academic Discussion / NYT Opinion: I Teach the Human...
Last post by Wahoo Redux - February 29, 2024, 10:24:48 AM
This is dated Dec. 2, 2023 in my inbox, so I am not sure when it was published----today or December 2?

Anyway...

New York Times Opinion: I Teach the Humanities, and I Still Don't Know What Their Value Is

QuoteWe humanists keep on trying to teach people what the value of the humanities is, and people keep failing to learn our lessons. This suggests to me that humanists do not know the value of the thing they are trying to defend. We can spout pieties that sound inspiring to those already convinced of our cause, but so too can an ignorant math teacher "teach" math to those who already know it.
#94
Teaching / Re: Topic: Bang Your Head on Y...
Last post by mythbuster - February 29, 2024, 10:24:25 AM
I have colleagues who have called the doctors office directly to confirm in these kind of cases. It's not a HIPA  violation to ask if they wrote the note.
#95
The State of Higher Ed / Re: IHE: Academic Freedom Batt...
Last post by Wahoo Redux - February 29, 2024, 10:17:23 AM
Marsh, Marsh, Marsh...

QuoteTarmo Uukkivi, director of Operations and Protective Services, presented the report to council on July 26. The document presents the approximate prices for the crosswalk installation.  Despite giving more details, staff had issues with nailing down the exact costs.

"In terms of the costing, this presented a  challenge for staff," Uukkivi said in the meeting. "We approached a couple of companies that we typically used for line painting a lot in town and (they) refused to provide even general quotes on the work. That  left us looking at what we could come up with as a general estimate for the cost."

Estimates could be as high as $81,000 without considering maintenance. However, this amount may be lower with more accurate calculations.

"A lot of towns have done this for a lot cheaper. But those aren't real numbers to us because we don't have a quote in our hands," Coun. Scott Morrison said. "I'm proposing a substitute motion because we don't have enough information for the council to make an educated decision right now."

The initiative is causing excitement among councillors.

Critical thinking, Marshy.  Critical thinking.
#96
The State of Higher Ed / Re: IHE: Academic Freedom Batt...
Last post by Wahoo Redux - February 29, 2024, 10:10:44 AM
Quote from: kaysixteen on February 28, 2024, 10:23:03 PMIf it be unacceptable to prevent a drag queen story hour at a pl, then what presentations, and by whom, would it be acceptable to deny access to said pl, and on what basis?

Freedom is a dangerous thing.

If the Nazis or NAMBLA want to do story time, we have to let them.  Their freedom guarantees our freedom.

You know who is dangerous to children?  Catholic priests.  We have the hard evidence.

But no one is going to object to a Catholic priest reading a story time.
#97
The State of Higher Ed / Re: IHE: Academic Freedom Batt...
Last post by Wahoo Redux - February 29, 2024, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: marshwiggle on February 29, 2024, 08:10:14 AM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on February 28, 2024, 04:31:22 PMWhat you posted are thoughtful commentaries on ongoing social issues.
You are now trying WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY too hard.

So, how about these?
Multi-coloured road crossings pose a threat to people with sight loss, warn charities

Horses in the mounted unit of the Metropolitan Police Taskforce found the newly-painted crosswalks pretty scary.


How about those hateful dogs and horses?

Could you paint a rainbow crosswalk for under $81,000

The rainbow conundrum at UVic: Crosswalk refresh no simple paint job
QuoteUVic has said any repainting of the rainbow crosswalk will have to wait until it holds conversations with staff, faculty and students. It's spending $24,000 on those consultations


Cost of painting another rainbow crosswalk too high, Kimberley council says

QuoteThe issue is cost. A staff report says that a rainbow crosswalk can cost 50 times what a traditional one costs. The Platzl rainbow crosswalk was painted in 2022 at a cost of $15,800. Today that quote has gone up almost $5,000.

Are all of the people raising all of these issues just expressing thinly-veiled hate?


Oh Marshy.  My God, son.

If there is a legitimately dangerous reason for not having rainbow crosswalks, then don't do them.

If your reason for not having rainbow crosswalks is hate and bigotry (likewise story times at the library), then do them.

If these people are screwing the numbers to make a rainbow crosswalk look dangerous or expensive----and I'd want the hard evidence----then my God yes that is bigotry and hate.

Do not be too fast to believe the extraordinary claims of hatemongers, Marshy.  I kind of doubt the expense or danger angles...
#98
General Discussion / Re: Re: What Have You Read Lat...
Last post by RatGuy - February 29, 2024, 09:39:30 AM
Just snagged a copy of The Girl with all the Gifts from our local library, thanks to movie thread. I also got Kingsolver's Flight Behavior.
#99
Teaching / Re: Topic: Bang Your Head on Y...
Last post by Aster - February 29, 2024, 09:33:23 AM
After three series of back-and-forth emails trying to get a student to send me her doctor's note excusing her from a major exam, I finally get sent something.

It's a Microsoft Word document.

Unsigned by the doctor.

With no dates written on it. Anywhere. No date of office visit. No dates for being excused from class.


I do not believe that this is a real doctor's note. I do not believe that any healthcare provider would be so half-$%^ about it, not sign it, and send it out to me as Microsoft Word file.

I have asked to have a new doctor's note sent to me that is both signed by the doctor and dated for both the date of the office visit and dated for the days excusing the student from class.

Is there anything else that I should be asking for?
#100
The State of Higher Ed / Re: Colleges in Dire Financial...
Last post by mythbuster - February 29, 2024, 08:33:32 AM
It would be a fascinating study to look at students side by side at Florida State and Florida A+M. The two schools are literally abutting each other- with the literal and proverbial train tracks in between! Because they have the same location, it would control for at least the geographic variable.