Quote from: Wahoo Redux on February 29, 2024, 10:06:51 AMIf there is a legitimately dangerous reason for not having rainbow crosswalks, then don't do them.
QuoteIf your reason for not having rainbow crosswalks is hate and bigotry (likewise story times at the library), then do them.
If these people are screwing the numbers to make a rainbow crosswalk look dangerous or expensive----and I'd want the hard evidence----then my God yes that is bigotry and hate.
Do not be too fast to believe the extraordinary claims of hatemongers, Marshy. I kind of doubt the expense or danger angles...
QuoteCleo Philp, director of campaigns and community relations with the University of Victoria Students' Society, said that money could be used in better ways. "It just feels like throwing money to the wind."
Philp, who is trans and uses she/they pronouns, said "getting the right-coloured crosswalk" is not the solution for making trans people safer on campus. She would prefer that the money spent on consultants go to �student bursaries for low-income trans and queer students instead.
QuoteTo enable us to ride and patrol safely we had training versions installed with help from @gevekomarkings who donated our new Bright Training crossings. We can get the horses used to them before riding them out in public.
QuoteWe humanists keep on trying to teach people what the value of the humanities is, and people keep failing to learn our lessons. This suggests to me that humanists do not know the value of the thing they are trying to defend. We can spout pieties that sound inspiring to those already convinced of our cause, but so too can an ignorant math teacher "teach" math to those who already know it.
QuoteTarmo Uukkivi, director of Operations and Protective Services, presented the report to council on July 26. The document presents the approximate prices for the crosswalk installation. Despite giving more details, staff had issues with nailing down the exact costs.
"In terms of the costing, this presented a challenge for staff," Uukkivi said in the meeting. "We approached a couple of companies that we typically used for line painting a lot in town and (they) refused to provide even general quotes on the work. That left us looking at what we could come up with as a general estimate for the cost."
Estimates could be as high as $81,000 without considering maintenance. However, this amount may be lower with more accurate calculations.
"A lot of towns have done this for a lot cheaper. But those aren't real numbers to us because we don't have a quote in our hands," Coun. Scott Morrison said. "I'm proposing a substitute motion because we don't have enough information for the council to make an educated decision right now."
The initiative is causing excitement among councillors.
Quote from: kaysixteen on February 28, 2024, 10:23:03 PMIf it be unacceptable to prevent a drag queen story hour at a pl, then what presentations, and by whom, would it be acceptable to deny access to said pl, and on what basis?
Quote from: marshwiggle on February 29, 2024, 08:10:14 AMQuote from: Wahoo Redux on February 28, 2024, 04:31:22 PMWhat you posted are thoughtful commentaries on ongoing social issues.
You are now trying WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY too hard.
So, how about these?
Multi-coloured road crossings pose a threat to people with sight loss, warn charities
Horses in the mounted unit of the Metropolitan Police Taskforce found the newly-painted crosswalks pretty scary.
How about those hateful dogs and horses?
Could you paint a rainbow crosswalk for under $81,000
The rainbow conundrum at UVic: Crosswalk refresh no simple paint jobQuoteUVic has said any repainting of the rainbow crosswalk will have to wait until it holds conversations with staff, faculty and students. It's spending $24,000 on those consultations
Cost of painting another rainbow crosswalk too high, Kimberley council saysQuoteThe issue is cost. A staff report says that a rainbow crosswalk can cost 50 times what a traditional one costs. The Platzl rainbow crosswalk was painted in 2022 at a cost of $15,800. Today that quote has gone up almost $5,000.
Are all of the people raising all of these issues just expressing thinly-veiled hate?