As informed by Tom the Dancing Bug: https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/comics/strips/?name=tom-the-dancing-bug&itid=sf_entertainment-comics
This is mine.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/25/cocks-not-glocks-texas-campus-carry-gun-law-protest
Any one who feels the necessity to "open carry" has deep insecurity issues. Period. The end.
When I first saw this title, I was thinking it meant beer.
Yikes.
M.
Quote from: mamselle on August 06, 2022, 07:30:42 AM
When I first saw this title, I was thinking it meant beer.
Yikes.
M.
Hah! On that topic I want the New Orleans take to be a Federal Right- the right to open carry? Hurricane in hand, I make my stand.
Quote from: nebo113 on August 06, 2022, 07:16:51 AM
Any one who feels the necessity to "open carry" has deep insecurity issues. Period. The end.
Either that or they want to show all us "liberals" that we can't impinge on their "Second Amendment Rights! #@!$ yeah, 'Merica! Pry it from my cold dead hand!" which could very well happen if enough people carry guns.
Some fella working in the parking lot of the book store was carrying a large caliber (a .45 I think) handgun on his belt. His presence frightened my wife. He was friendly, however, and complimented me on my Led Zeppelin shirt. I said, "Thank you." He was a very small man and may have been harboring some generic masculine insecurities there, but generally if they are just hauling around their weapons in plain sight they don't want to shoot you----they just want you to know that they
could shoot you if they wanted.
If ever I saw anyone walking around in the world with a gun, I'd call the cops. Yes, even stateside. It's not my job to sort out the good from the bad guys, and as far as I'm concerned, totting one around is threatening behaviour. (Presumably, that'll show up in court in a stand-your-ground state sometime, if it hasn't already.)
Here, of course, carrying openly is an indication that someone is gonna kill people. That's a much simpler sorting mechanism.
Quote from: mamselle on August 06, 2022, 07:30:42 AM
When I first saw this title, I was thinking it meant beer.
Yikes.
M.
I thought it meant beer, iron, and attitude. W/O those--where would the thrillers I truffle through be?
Quote from: ciao_yall on August 05, 2022, 08:32:45 AM
This is mine.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/25/cocks-not-glocks-texas-campus-carry-gun-law-protest
Many of these students are going to be very disappointed on their wedding night.
Just sayin' . . .
Quote from: Parasaurolophus on August 06, 2022, 11:01:42 AM
If ever I saw anyone walking around in the world with a gun, I'd call the cops. Yes, even stateside. It's not my job to sort out the good from the bad guys, and as far as I'm concerned, totting one around is threatening behaviour. (Presumably, that'll show up in court in a stand-your-ground state sometime, if it hasn't already.)
Here, of course, carrying openly is an indication that someone is gonna kill people. That's a much simpler sorting mechanism.
That's my dilemma. Let's say I'm in Walmart (which I avoid) but some dude is walking around with his "weapon". Is he a good guy with a gun or a bad guy with a gun?? How am I supposed to tell the difference??? Even a so-called "good guy with a gun" (at least in these here parts) might get pissed if I accidentally hit his cart or looked at him cross-eyed or.....and turn his penile extender toward me, even if he didn't
ejaculate pull the trigger. And we do have nutcase militia types around here.
Quote from: fishbrains on August 06, 2022, 05:38:42 PM
Quote from: ciao_yall on August 05, 2022, 08:32:45 AM
This is mine.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/25/cocks-not-glocks-texas-campus-carry-gun-law-protest
Many of these students are going to be very disappointed on their wedding night.
Just sayin' . . .
What an image. Rolling my eyes, laughing, and groaning all at once.
I rather imagine that if people stopped caring about open-carry it would no longer be a cause celebre for the gun nuts----the same principle one might use on an obnoxious child.
Yeah, but for those who just might act on their impulses, it's not really safe.
People with a chip on their shoulder really can't be trusted...been there, seen that.
M.
Yes, some people are impulsive and very unpredictable, which can be dangerous. It's very discouraging to see more 'death-by-gun' articles in the news.
I just don't even know where to start with this topic. I'm not adverse to owning a gun, it's just that there seem to be more hoops to jump through to legally drive a car than to own a gun in this country. And yes, there will always be people who break the law, drive illegally, buy guns illegally, but I still think that we need to do something about the problem. Unfortunately, my 'conservative' friends strongly subscribe to the 'we need a good guy with a gun' and think that I'm suggesting that nobody be allowed to have a gun. Dude! I'm not saying take away your rights to own and carry, we just need to make it more difficult for unhinged people to possess them.
To be fair, I don't think it is the "open carry" bunch who are committing gun crimes.
Mass shooters tend to have their parents' legally obtained weapons or legally buy them themselves----but this is not the same as "open carry."
Criminals tend to have guns from other means.
I think we need to make the distinction.
Even though our neighborhood is pretty safe, our city is kind of scary and the drivers are insane. We have had some gas station stick-ups and some serious gun violence on the nearest boulevard to our house. We have a couple of guns in our home that I brought from my mother's house when my nieces were wild teenagers and I worried they might create some kind of stupid situation, but now I am very happy they are in our own house. I broached the subject about getting a firearm to keep in the car, but my wife was not overly enthusiastic.
Wahoo, I agree re about the mass shootings, but also seriously agree with e_p_w and Mamselle. I think Stephen King did the best job with a solution in his essay On Guns. Make the requirement that you must take and pass the NRA offered training, and be periodically checked at least as you are for a driver's license. Even better would be re-qualifying in some way similar to law enforcement requirements.
I'm glad posters see the analogy between guns and cars. It is exact. Both are eminently useful and fun and kill people. Turns out the number of gun deaths and automobile deaths per year in the US is about the same. [Mass shootings actually cause few gun deaths, like 1% of them.]
Thus, all the permissions necessary to drive should reasonably be expected of gun owners. Part of those requirements for driving is liability insurance. Should be the same for shooting guns. That way each gun owner bears his share of the full cost of using the gun. Which is what's wanted, for the owner benefits from the gun.
It's probably fully legal right now to impose such a scheme: Scalia explicitly wrote in Heller that nothing in the decision should be construed as banning rules about safety.
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on August 07, 2022, 10:27:25 AM
To be fair, I don't think it is the "open carry" bunch who are committing gun crimes.
Mass shooters tend to have their parents' legally obtained weapons or legally buy them themselves----but this is not the same as "open carry."
Criminals tend to have guns from other means.
I think we need to make the distinction.
Even though our neighborhood is pretty safe, our city is kind of scary and the drivers are insane. We have had some gas station stick-ups and some serious gun violence on the nearest boulevard to our house. We have a couple of guns in our home that I brought from my mother's house when my nieces were wild teenagers and I worried they might create some kind of stupid situation, but now I am very happy they are in our own house. I broached the subject about getting a firearm to keep in the car, but my wife was not overly enthusiastic.
The main problem with this is logistical. Having a gun easily accessible in case of emergency makes it much easier to lead to an accidental shooting. There are lots of cases in the news from the US where children (often toddlers) have shot people (including siblings an parents) with the gun owned by an irresponsible adult. Having the gun stored safely to avoid this, such as with the ammunition removed, makes it much less likely to be useful in an emergency. (Any adult, up to and including a child's parent, who is responsible for this should be jailed for criminal negligence causing death to change this kind of cavalier attitude, in my opinion.)
A few years ago, I seem to recall there was a (German?) gun manufacturer producing a gun keyed to the owner's biometrics to prevent these sots of accidents and theft, but gun lobbyists in the US fought against it for fear it would allow the government to disable their guns.
Quote from: marshwiggle on August 08, 2022, 06:23:25 AM
The main problem with this is logistical. Having a gun easily accessible in case of emergency makes it much easier to lead to an accidental shooting. There are lots of cases in the news from the US where children (often toddlers) have shot people (including siblings an parents) with the gun owned by an irresponsible adult. Having the gun stored safely to avoid this, such as with the ammunition removed, makes it much less likely to be useful in an emergency.
Jim Jeffries covers this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0)
Quote from: FishProf on August 08, 2022, 01:33:09 PM
Quote from: marshwiggle on August 08, 2022, 06:23:25 AM
The main problem with this is logistical. Having a gun easily accessible in case of emergency makes it much easier to lead to an accidental shooting. There are lots of cases in the news from the US where children (often toddlers) have shot people (including siblings an parents) with the gun owned by an irresponsible adult. Having the gun stored safely to avoid this, such as with the ammunition removed, makes it much less likely to be useful in an emergency.
Jim Jeffries covers this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0)
I think I'd seen that one before. He definitely makes the point hilariously.