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Title: J.D. Vance: "Sanctuary Cities" = Universities
Post by: Wahoo Redux on March 26, 2024, 02:22:42 PM
Ohio U.S. Senator JD Vance Introduces Bill to Prohibit Universities from Hiring Illegal Aliens (https://tennesseestar.com/news/ohio-u-s-senator-jd-vance-introduces-bill-to-prohibit-universities-from-hiring-illegal-aliens/khousler/2024/03/20/)

QuoteOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance (R-OH) and Indiana U.S. Representative Jim Banks (R-IN-03) have introduced a bill that would prohibit universities that receive federal funding from hiring illegal aliens.

The bill, titled the College Employment Accountability Act, would specifically amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to "prohibit an institution of higher education that employs unauthorized aliens from receiving funds from federal student assistance or federal institutional aid"

Institutions of higher education would have to participate in the E-Verify Program, which is a federal program that checks the immigration status of all employees, in order to receive federal funds under the bill.

Do universities hire a lot of "illegal aliens?"

Title: Re: J.D. Vance: "Sanctuary Cities" = Universities
Post by: kaysixteen on March 26, 2024, 09:39:55 PM
More to the point-- it is illegal for any Americans to hire illegal aliens.
Title: Re: J.D. Vance: "Sanctuary Cities" = Universities
Post by: marshwiggle on March 27, 2024, 05:22:14 AM
Quote from: kaysixteen on March 26, 2024, 09:39:55 PMMore to the point-- it is illegal for any Americans to hire illegal aliens.

But my understanding is that it's a lot easier to do in the U.S. than it is in Canada because the employment laws are a lot less strict.
Title: Re: J.D. Vance: "Sanctuary Cities" = Universities
Post by: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 05:27:06 AM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on March 26, 2024, 02:22:42 PMOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance Introduces Bill to Prohibit Universities from Hiring Illegal Aliens (https://tennesseestar.com/news/ohio-u-s-senator-jd-vance-introduces-bill-to-prohibit-universities-from-hiring-illegal-aliens/khousler/2024/03/20/)

QuoteOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance (R-OH) and Indiana U.S. Representative Jim Banks (R-IN-03) have introduced a bill that would prohibit universities that receive federal funding from hiring illegal aliens.

The bill, titled the College Employment Accountability Act, would specifically amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to "prohibit an institution of higher education that employs unauthorized aliens from receiving funds from federal student assistance or federal institutional aid"

Institutions of higher education would have to participate in the E-Verify Program, which is a federal program that checks the immigration status of all employees, in order to receive federal funds under the bill.

Do universities hire a lot of "illegal aliens?"



They must be unfamiliar with HR protocols in colleges, private and public, where all potential employees have to provide evidence that they are either US citizens or green-card holders authorized to work in the US. There's a name for these one-page forms. Brains seem to be travelling south along the human spine these days!
Title: Re: J.D. Vance: "Sanctuary Cities" = Universities
Post by: bio-nonymous on March 27, 2024, 06:33:20 AM
Quote from: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 05:27:06 AM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on March 26, 2024, 02:22:42 PMOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance Introduces Bill to Prohibit Universities from Hiring Illegal Aliens (https://tennesseestar.com/news/ohio-u-s-senator-jd-vance-introduces-bill-to-prohibit-universities-from-hiring-illegal-aliens/khousler/2024/03/20/)

QuoteOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance (R-OH) and Indiana U.S. Representative Jim Banks (R-IN-03) have introduced a bill that would prohibit universities that receive federal funding from hiring illegal aliens.

The bill, titled the College Employment Accountability Act, would specifically amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to "prohibit an institution of higher education that employs unauthorized aliens from receiving funds from federal student assistance or federal institutional aid"

Institutions of higher education would have to participate in the E-Verify Program, which is a federal program that checks the immigration status of all employees, in order to receive federal funds under the bill.

Do universities hire a lot of "illegal aliens?"



They must be unfamiliar with HR protocols in colleges, private and public, where all potential employees have to provide evidence that they are either US citizens or green-card holders authorized to work in the US. There's a name for these one-page forms. Brains seem to be travelling south along the human spine these days!

I-9 forms--my newest RA just had to turn theirs in to get on the payroll! But the point of the legislation might be that ALL institutions don't use the form and to make a unified requirement?--Giving Vance the benefit of the doubt since I do not know the HR policies of all institutions.
Title: Re: J.D. Vance: "Sanctuary Cities" = Universities
Post by: ciao_yall on March 27, 2024, 06:58:48 AM
Quote from: bio-nonymous on March 27, 2024, 06:33:20 AM
Quote from: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 05:27:06 AM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on March 26, 2024, 02:22:42 PMOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance Introduces Bill to Prohibit Universities from Hiring Illegal Aliens (https://tennesseestar.com/news/ohio-u-s-senator-jd-vance-introduces-bill-to-prohibit-universities-from-hiring-illegal-aliens/khousler/2024/03/20/)

QuoteOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance (R-OH) and Indiana U.S. Representative Jim Banks (R-IN-03) have introduced a bill that would prohibit universities that receive federal funding from hiring illegal aliens.

The bill, titled the College Employment Accountability Act, would specifically amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to "prohibit an institution of higher education that employs unauthorized aliens from receiving funds from federal student assistance or federal institutional aid"

Institutions of higher education would have to participate in the E-Verify Program, which is a federal program that checks the immigration status of all employees, in order to receive federal funds under the bill.

Do universities hire a lot of "illegal aliens?"



They must be unfamiliar with HR protocols in colleges, private and public, where all potential employees have to provide evidence that they are either US citizens or green-card holders authorized to work in the US. There's a name for these one-page forms. Brains seem to be travelling south along the human spine these days!


I-9 forms--my newest RA just had to turn theirs in to get on the payroll! But the point of the legislation might be that ALL institutions don't use the form and to make a unified requirement?--Giving Vance the benefit of the doubt since I do not know the HR policies of all institutions.

The only industries that fought against the requirement to require confirmation of legal working status were agriculture and hospitality.

Title: Re: J.D. Vance: "Sanctuary Cities" = Universities
Post by: Anselm on March 27, 2024, 07:47:18 AM
What's the word?  Grandstanding? Posturing?  Virtue Signaling?  Like K16 said, it is already against the law.  I am not aware of any undocumented person working at any school I have been at except for myself when I lost my social security card and went years before I replaced it. Then you got those price gouging undocumented teen girl babysitters who work for cash under the table but that is a matter for another thread.

However, I do find this less of a problem than the attempts to mandate equal time for controversial topics.
Title: Re: J.D. Vance: "Sanctuary Cities" = Universities
Post by: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: bio-nonymous on March 27, 2024, 06:33:20 AM
Quote from: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 05:27:06 AM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on March 26, 2024, 02:22:42 PMOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance Introduces Bill to Prohibit Universities from Hiring Illegal Aliens (https://tennesseestar.com/news/ohio-u-s-senator-jd-vance-introduces-bill-to-prohibit-universities-from-hiring-illegal-aliens/khousler/2024/03/20/)

QuoteOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance (R-OH) and Indiana U.S. Representative Jim Banks (R-IN-03) have introduced a bill that would prohibit universities that receive federal funding from hiring illegal aliens.

The bill, titled the College Employment Accountability Act, would specifically amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to "prohibit an institution of higher education that employs unauthorized aliens from receiving funds from federal student assistance or federal institutional aid"

Institutions of higher education would have to participate in the E-Verify Program, which is a federal program that checks the immigration status of all employees, in order to receive federal funds under the bill.

Do universities hire a lot of "illegal aliens?"



They must be unfamiliar with HR protocols in colleges, private and public, where all potential employees have to provide evidence that they are either US citizens or green-card holders authorized to work in the US. There's a name for these one-page forms. Brains seem to be travelling south along the human spine these days!

I-9 forms--my newest RA just had to turn theirs in to get on the payroll! But the point of the legislation might be that ALL institutions don't use the form and to make a unified requirement?--Giving Vance the benefit of the doubt since I do not know the HR policies of all institutions.

Vance is either grandstanding or an ignoramus. The I-9 form and providing HR with the necessary documentation is a requirement for all institutions and workplaces. This is probably a federal requirement.
Title: Re: J.D. Vance: "Sanctuary Cities" = Universities
Post by: Wahoo Redux on March 27, 2024, 05:43:37 PM
Pleasuring the useful idiots in the Republican party for political gain, in other words.

As with the other thread on Arizona, this is just another example.
Title: Re: J.D. Vance: "Sanctuary Cities" = Universities
Post by: bio-nonymous on March 28, 2024, 10:21:34 AM
Quote from: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: bio-nonymous on March 27, 2024, 06:33:20 AM
Quote from: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 05:27:06 AM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on March 26, 2024, 02:22:42 PMOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance Introduces Bill to Prohibit Universities from Hiring Illegal Aliens (https://tennesseestar.com/news/ohio-u-s-senator-jd-vance-introduces-bill-to-prohibit-universities-from-hiring-illegal-aliens/khousler/2024/03/20/)

QuoteOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance (R-OH) and Indiana U.S. Representative Jim Banks (R-IN-03) have introduced a bill that would prohibit universities that receive federal funding from hiring illegal aliens.

The bill, titled the College Employment Accountability Act, would specifically amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to "prohibit an institution of higher education that employs unauthorized aliens from receiving funds from federal student assistance or federal institutional aid"

Institutions of higher education would have to participate in the E-Verify Program, which is a federal program that checks the immigration status of all employees, in order to receive federal funds under the bill.

Do universities hire a lot of "illegal aliens?"



They must be unfamiliar with HR protocols in colleges, private and public, where all potential employees have to provide evidence that they are either US citizens or green-card holders authorized to work in the US. There's a name for these one-page forms. Brains seem to be travelling south along the human spine these days!


I-9 forms--my newest RA just had to turn theirs in to get on the payroll! But the point of the legislation might be that ALL institutions don't use the form and to make a unified requirement?--Giving Vance the benefit of the doubt since I do not know the HR policies of all institutions.

Vance is either grandstanding or an ignoramus. The I-9 form and providing HR with the necessary documentation is a requirement for all institutions and workplaces. This is probably a federal requirement.
Quote from: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 04:15:40 PM
Quote from: bio-nonymous on March 27, 2024, 06:33:20 AM
Quote from: Langue_doc on March 27, 2024, 05:27:06 AM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on March 26, 2024, 02:22:42 PMOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance Introduces Bill to Prohibit Universities from Hiring Illegal Aliens (https://tennesseestar.com/news/ohio-u-s-senator-jd-vance-introduces-bill-to-prohibit-universities-from-hiring-illegal-aliens/khousler/2024/03/20/)

QuoteOhio U.S. Senator JD Vance (R-OH) and Indiana U.S. Representative Jim Banks (R-IN-03) have introduced a bill that would prohibit universities that receive federal funding from hiring illegal aliens.

The bill, titled the College Employment Accountability Act, would specifically amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to "prohibit an institution of higher education that employs unauthorized aliens from receiving funds from federal student assistance or federal institutional aid"

Institutions of higher education would have to participate in the E-Verify Program, which is a federal program that checks the immigration status of all employees, in order to receive federal funds under the bill.

Do universities hire a lot of "illegal aliens?"



They must be unfamiliar with HR protocols in colleges, private and public, where all potential employees have to provide evidence that they are either US citizens or green-card holders authorized to work in the US. There's a name for these one-page forms. Brains seem to be travelling south along the human spine these days!


I-9 forms--my newest RA just had to turn theirs in to get on the payroll! But the point of the legislation might be that ALL institutions don't use the form and to make a unified requirement?--Giving Vance the benefit of the doubt since I do not know the HR policies of all institutions.

Vance is either grandstanding or an ignoramus. The I-9 form and providing HR with the necessary documentation is a requirement for all institutions and workplaces. This is probably a federal requirement.

https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/form-i-9-resources/handbook-for-employers-m-274/20-who-must-complete-form-i-9
Title: Re: J.D. Vance: "Sanctuary Cities" = Universities
Post by: Ruralguy on March 28, 2024, 01:42:18 PM
My guess is that these morons are really thinking about contractors, that is, people who do construction work on campus or maybe some of the people in the dinning facilities. Probably most are documented. I wouldn't be surprised if occasionally some aren't.