Quote from: marshwiggle on September 25, 2023, 05:14:44 AMMy understanding of the role of "community colleges" in the US is that this pretty much is their mandate, (i.e. more direct emphasis on the workforce than universities). If that is their mandate, then that has to be their focus. (It also makes their funding easier to justify. To change their mandate would also potentially undermine the justification for their funding.)
Quote from: secundem_artem on September 18, 2023, 12:26:33 PMWe just got our numbers. Not looking good. Expecting some unpleasant directives coming from on high.
Quote from: marshwiggle on September 25, 2023, 09:23:05 AMQuote from: ciao_yall on September 25, 2023, 08:58:00 AMQuote from: marshwiggle on September 25, 2023, 08:55:03 AMIf the teacher is not actually running a role-playing game in the classroom, then the teacher should not be using pronouns for children that differ from those correct for the child's sex*. The teacher should help children understand the difference between fantasy and reality, so that everyone clearly distinguishes between statements made during something like a role-playing exercise and those made in normal conversation.
*Since the teacher cannot distinguish between role-playing and gender dysphoria, the teacher should not pretend to diagnose the latter, anymore than they should try to diagnose any sort of medical condition a student may or may not have. And like any medical condition, without a registered medical diagnosis, the teacher should not assume one exists.
So, now teachers have to go and approve, on the playground, who plays which role in a game? Because apparently kids don't understand the concept of 'pretend'?
The teacher is responsible for what language they and students use in their classrooms. The playground isn't their problem, (and that's not what parents are worried about).
Quote from: ciao_yall on September 25, 2023, 08:58:00 AMQuote from: marshwiggle on September 25, 2023, 08:55:03 AMIf the teacher is not actually running a role-playing game in the classroom, then the teacher should not be using pronouns for children that differ from those correct for the child's sex*. The teacher should help children understand the difference between fantasy and reality, so that everyone clearly distinguishes between statements made during something like a role-playing exercise and those made in normal conversation.
*Since the teacher cannot distinguish between role-playing and gender dysphoria, the teacher should not pretend to diagnose the latter, anymore than they should try to diagnose any sort of medical condition a student may or may not have. And like any medical condition, without a registered medical diagnosis, the teacher should not assume one exists.
So, now teachers have to go and approve, on the playground, who plays which role in a game? Because apparently kids don't understand the concept of 'pretend'?
Quote from: Parasaurolophus on September 25, 2023, 09:04:15 AMI, for one, applaud this brave new regimen of pulling down the kids' pants at the beginning of the year, just so that teachers will get it right. Maybe if they get a good look at his penis, people will stop thinking my son is my daughter.
QuoteI run a parent-and-tot singalong. One day, a four year-old came in and told us she was a lion. We all indulged her, but I see now we did irreparable harm and she's destined to become a furry.
Quote from: ciao_yall on September 25, 2023, 09:12:26 AMTrue story:
My sister is a pediatrician. A pair of twins joined her practice.
One day, one twin, aged 3 or 4, asked "Mommy, why don't I have a penis?" Because, you're a girl. "No, I'm a boy, and my name is Jack."
So the parents decided to just go with it.
When the kids came in for their check up, Jack pulled my sister aside. "Doctor E, you are aware that I don't have a penis, right?"
Not sure what Jack is up to now.
Quote from: marshwiggle on September 25, 2023, 08:55:03 AMQuote from: ciao_yall on September 25, 2023, 08:40:34 AMQuote from: marshwiggle on September 24, 2023, 11:53:06 AMQuote from: ciao_yall on September 23, 2023, 12:08:59 PMCRP: And teachers are allowed to hide from parents when their kids are "transitioning!"
Me: I'm not sure how teachers are expected to discern normal role-playing games and identity experiments from something to tell parents to be concerned about.
If this is serious, then it's absolutely terrifying that teachers (and others, like medical professionals), would be in favour of "gender-affirming" medical treatment with lifelong consequences.
Yes. Isn't it horrible when, unbeknownst to the parents, a teacher sends a 6-year-old boy to the school nurse to have his penis cut off because he was pretending to be Belle when all the kids were playing Beauty and The Beast?
Hate it when that happens.
Happened twice last week.
If the teacher is not actually running a role-playing game in the classroom, then the teacher should not be using pronouns for children that differ from those correct for the child's sex*. The teacher should help children understand the difference between fantasy and reality, so that everyone clearly distinguishes between statements made during something like a role-playing exercise and those made in normal conversation.
*Since the teacher cannot distinguish between role-playing and gender dysphoria, the teacher should not pretend to diagnose the latter, anymore than they should try to diagnose any sort of medical condition a student may or may not have. And like any medical condition, without a registered medical diagnosis, the teacher should not assume one exists.