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Title: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: polly_mer on June 26, 2019, 05:27:26 AM
By request, I'm starting a new thread to talk explicitly about work conditions for teaching since we have both people who are doing the work and the department chairs, deans, and others here in this community to discuss.

From the No Office thread:

Quote from: Caracal on June 23, 2019, 09:52:26 AM
Slightly off topic for this post, but office space is one of those things that is incredibly important in terms of working conditions. I've been lucky enough to always adjunct at places that always at least gave me a shared office and it has always made me feel much better about my job. It gives me a home base on campus, being able to go in early and get work done, having a place to put my stuff. It also has less tangible benefits. I've become friends with a few permanent faculty members just because they have offices next to me or I see them in the hall.

Faculty: what do you need to do your job?

Chairs etc: what information do you need to advocate for your faculty or what do you want to say about the conditions under which you work that may not be readily visible to faculty?
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: downer on June 26, 2019, 05:46:40 AM
I taught at a school with classrooms that had a desktop computer with no monitor, just a projector. So I had no way to prevent students from seeing everything I did in setting up what I was showing. It was also very inconvenient since I had to look behind me to see what was happening on the screen. So I would prioritize having my own computer monitor and an ability to decide when students can see what I have on the screen.

I want an ability to control the temperature in the classroom, especially if it is too hot.

At another school, some adjuncts leave a small suitcase in the adjunct room so they don't have to bring in the same things every time, which would be hard especially since many come using public transport. Administration occasionally puts up "Verboten!" signs up, but people just ignore them. So I'd say some storage space is important.

I'd also like somewhere to leave a coat and lunch when I spend a day on campus without having to worry about them getting stolen.

What I'd really like is a small couch to lie on between classes.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: marshwiggle on June 26, 2019, 06:03:31 AM
Would it also be helpful here for people to identify things that have been provided that have been particularly useful, but not necessarily on the radar in most places?

One specific issue I'm curious about: Many places that provide some sort of shared office space with or without shared computers. Are shared computers worthwhile and/or better than using your own laptop? If not is there infrastructure like shared printers that make using your own laptop more viable? Are there any resources to defray the cost of your own laptop? (Some of these same questions could apply to phones as well.)

FWIW, my "day job" is on campus, so I already have an office, phone, computer, etc. and thus I don't have these issues, but I've tried to imagine what would work otherwise. After I retire from my "day job", these concerns will become relevant.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: polly_mer on June 26, 2019, 06:17:50 AM
Quote from: marshwiggle on June 26, 2019, 06:03:31 AM
One specific issue I'm curious about: Many places that provide some sort of shared office space with or without shared computers. Are shared computers worthwhile and/or better than using your own laptop? If not is there infrastructure like shared printers that make using your own laptop more viable? Are there any resources to defray the cost of your own laptop? (Some of these same questions could apply to phones as well.)

Shared computers have been annoying every time I've been in the situation, but bringing my own laptop has been its own hell, especially the more complicated the network is.

The shared computers work best if they are like the old-school computer labs where one logs in, has a home drive mounted in some central location so files are available on every computer on the network, and allow one to personalize a desktop/applications.  The benefit is those networked computers tend to connect properly to all the printers and authenticate to the servers with almost no hassle.

The shared computers that aren't like a profile that follows you around that are more like the open-access computers at the public library are much less useful for anything other than entering grades into the standardized system.

However, getting my personal laptop to connect to the wi-fi and allow me to authenticate as faculty to all the necessary systems can be very iffy, especially at the struggling institutions that have almost no resources for IT. 

I haven't experienced a situation where good shared office space exists and yet the expectation is to bring one's own laptop and phone.  Part of the problem with the expectation of bringing one's own laptop is often the expectation extends to the idea that one can find somewhere to sit in the library or the student union building.  Having a shared bull pen with space for storage (papers and coat/lunch) along with desk space, computers, and office phones was a much better experience in teaching, even only being on campus one day per week for about 4 hours.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: mahagonny on June 26, 2019, 06:21:45 AM
What do I need? There are levels of needs being met:
Substandard but workable; learning will take place, but seriously hampered
Barely adequate
Pretty good!
Optimal

At one of my schools I am woefully under equipped. Some of the needs are specific to my field and I won't go into it further at this time. I can certainly tell the forum about it, but until adjunct faculty are included at at least several paid meetings per semester, there isn't a reasonable hope of decent standards being met. It's too easy for us to be off the chair's radar. It goes to the basic reality of segmented faculty structure. I stand by my claim that tenure track faculty hoard workspace for themselves. Readily available space for meeting with students may not be essential, but hunting for it or having a dearth of it can take extra time, and shows a less professional appearance to the student. Suggesting that the department doesn't hold you in such high regard. Don't believe me? You should have been there when my student Peter said, out of the blue, 'I can't believe they stuck all of you professors in this one tiny room.' If I hear one person comment like that, I figure 30 more are thinking it.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: cathwen on June 26, 2019, 07:09:25 AM
I am now an adjunct at UrbanU, sliding into retirement, after having taught there full-time as a NTT faculty member.  When I was full-time, I had an office (shared with one other person) and a computer.  As an adjunct, there is one shared room in the basement for all the adjuncts in the department--although few seem to be there at any given time. 

In our shared space are round work tables that look as though they would be perfect for student conferences, except that we are told sternly *never* to meet students in our shared space.  This pretty much eliminates the possibility of regular office hours; any meetings are by appointment, for which we have to scrounge up some other space.

We have shared computers; not an issue for me, as I have my own laptop, but getting onto the campus network is sometimes difficult (much as polly_mer described above).

The room is open and we do not have keys, so we cannot leave our stuff there. 

So, this is not an ideal situation.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: polly_mer on June 26, 2019, 07:12:28 AM
Quote from: mahagonny on June 26, 2019, 06:21:45 AM
What do I need? There are levels of needs being met:
Substandard but workable; learning will take place, but seriously hampered
Barely adequate
Pretty good!
Optimal

What do those levels look like in concrete terms that a chair/dean could act upon?  For example in the substandard-but-workable category, I once was assigned a classroom so small that we had to put desks in the hall so that people writing on the front board weren't touching the front row of desks.  Those desks spent a lot of time in the hall that semester for other classes as well for faculty who liked circles for discussion or also wanted students to write on the board.

In the you-have-to-be-kidding-me category (the one below substandard-but-workable), I was once assigned to teach physics lab in a regular classroom that was shared so we couldn't leave any equipment set up between class periods.  In addition, I was moving that equipment down and up every class period from the real lab on another floor with no functioning elevators in the building.  I was tenure-track with two offices on campus (one for faculty and one in the administration building) and spent absurd amounts of time before and during that term explaining why this was not the solution to accommodate a student and was overruled at every turn.

<on preview of cathween's post>  Oh, the key situation!  Yes, having keys to the relevant buildings so that one can set up labs/studios/dry runs with quirky technology during times the classrooms will be empty helps a lot for working conditions.  Again, I have been TT with an office in the building and denied keys to the main doors because something was stolen once 10 years ago so now only the one security guard on duty for the whole campus can unlock a building upon a phone request with at least 1 hour notice. 

At a place I was adjuncting one day per week, I was trusted with keys including one to the office supply cabinet.  As a grad student at various places, I was trusted with keys to the building.  TT at Super-Dinky College and in charge of the accreditation report?  Not trusted with keys to the building, despite often working during non-standard hours and needing access to my office.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: apl68 on June 26, 2019, 07:13:38 AM
You know you're low on the totem pole when four of you have to share an office with three desks, one of which looks like it must have been Korean War surplus. No computers--we had to use a shared graduate work space down the hall.  The shared graduate assistant work space had printers that never seemed to be maintained and paper recycling boxes that overflowed knee-deep around them.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: marshwiggle on June 26, 2019, 07:28:08 AM
Quote from: polly_mer on June 26, 2019, 07:12:28 AM

At a place I was adjuncting one day per week, I was trusted with keys including one to the office supply cabinet.  As a grad student at various places, I was trusted with keys to the building.  TT at Super-Dinky College and in charge of the accreditation report?  Not trusted with keys to the building, despite often working during non-standard hours and needing access to my office.

Does any place use card access for any of these spaces? We* have cards here that give access to buildings, but I'm not aware of them being used for specific rooms. That would seem to be a decent solution, since the list could be updated every term, and like hotels, a lost card wouldn't require "re-keying" the place.

*I know full-time faculty and staff get them; I'm not sure about part-time. Since I warrant one from my full-time "day job", I don't know if I'd get one otherwise.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: downer on June 26, 2019, 07:35:50 AM
Shared computers: these days a lot of universities have computers where when you log in, you get to the same set of files and your browser settings are the same wherever you are, so it makes no difference which physical terminal you use. (Well, that's when it works well, which is not all the time. The start up time can also be long on a physical machine you have not used recently.)

I prefer to use a computer on campus rather than lug a laptop around. Logging in to campus wifi can also be a trial with a laptop.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: Juvenal on June 26, 2019, 08:06:19 AM
I'd say my department has few if any defects that I can see for the functioning of the faculty members, FT or adjuncts.  I have to say working conditions are good.  Perfect?  Where can such be found?

But since I'm retired after decades of FT and now only adjunct, let me view from the POV of the adjunct.

There is a key-carded adjunct office with computer on its own desk, another desk, and lockable lockers.  The adjunct computer is linked to printers in the administrative area copy room, a short walk to the other end of the floor.  And everyone has the code to the main copier as well.  Most faculty, FT/adjunct, do their own copying, but there's a departmental assistant to call on if needed.

All lecture halls have computers and projectors, some more glitchy than others, but rooms are not assigned by FT/adjunct status, just by course.

There is a faculty lounge (mailboxes, sofa, soft chairs, microwave, sink, fridge, tables, chairs) that all are welcome to use, and some adjuncts will meet students there--no objection from FT that I've seen.  There's also a large conference room that, if free, and it usually is, can be used to meet students in.  But there is no objection to meeting students in the adjunct office.  The adjuncts rarely compete for use of this office; often adjuncts come, teach, stay a short while for any student matters, and leave.

The departmental administration is neither slack nor micromanaging.  It seems all necessary things get done.

Adjuncts are invited to the two or three departmental meetings a semester, but not many come.  The meetings never last more than about an hour; some food is often served.  I've never seen any peacocking or sniping.

FT/adjuncts/staff all have key cards to their appropriate areas, labs, and faculty/staff bathrooms.  (Is this important?  I find it so.)

The campus is handsome, not dreary: nicely laid out, well maintained, interestingly planted, some real topography giving visual interest. (One's heart does not sink when you come to campus--at least not when you are looking at the physical structure.)

Negatives--First, of course, adjunct pay is the usual rather risible amount per course, but the college (a CC) is unionized, and adjuncts have a voice and representation. Second?  HVAC can be a little erratic, but that affects all.  Third?  Oh, come on, you know what it is: parking.  If you have a mid-morning class, prepare to hike some distance, just or unjust, FT or adjunct...
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: mahagonny on June 26, 2019, 08:14:12 AM
Quote from: polly_mer on June 26, 2019, 07:12:28 AM
Quote from: mahagonny on June 26, 2019, 06:21:45 AM
What do I need? There are levels of needs being met:
Substandard but workable; learning will take place, but seriously hampered
Barely adequate
Pretty good!
Optimal

What do those levels look like in concrete terms that a chair/dean could act upon?

Ask tenured faculty what adjunct faculty need for successful teaching and they'll probably recall the worst situation they've ever endured and then tell you that it is workable. Which is technically true, but means (1) The job of allotting workspace is an issue that takes into account faculty hierarchy, and therefore (2) it's fine for a part-timer. But ask them what they need to teach, now, and you'll get some good answers. Use those answers, and apply them to all faculty who teach, evenly, as available. That's what I'd do if I were a dean. Right before getting tarred and feathered.
It's impossible for me to discuss this subject without mentioning the problem that tenured track faculty represent. So sorry.

Quote from: downer on June 26, 2019, 07:35:50 AM
Shared computers: these days a lot of universities have computers where when you log in, you get to the same set of files and your browser settings are the same wherever you are, so it makes no difference which physical terminal you use.

Our department is terminally ill. Wifi works terrible because of building construction material. They could put an ethernet outlet in my teaching room, but it wouldn't help because my laptop does not have an ethernet hookup. Being able to go online in the room would be a big advantage.
But the classrooms used by tenure track faculty have hard wired computers all ready to go.
In my department, most of the courses taught by adjunct faculty are more like labs. Small numbers of people. Small rooms. there's no hardship or indignity in a smaller room unless three or more are storing their teaching materials there. Then it is fairly inconvenient and if it's obvious to everyone that it doesn't have tone that way, also demeaning.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: chemigal on June 26, 2019, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: mahagonny on June 26, 2019, 08:14:12 AM
Quote from: polly_mer on June 26, 2019, 07:12:28 AM
Quote from: mahagonny on June 26, 2019, 06:21:45 AM
What do I need? There are levels of needs being met:
Substandard but workable; learning will take place, but seriously hampered
Barely adequate
Pretty good!
Optimal

What do those levels look like in concrete terms that a chair/dean could act upon?

Ask tenured faculty what adjunct faculty need for successful teaching and they'll probably recall the worst situation they've ever endured and then tell you that it is workable. Which is technically true, but means (1) The job of allotting workspace is an issue that takes into account faculty hierarchy, and therefore (2) it's fine for a part-timer. But ask them what they need to teach, now, and you'll get some good answers. Use those answers, and apply them to all faculty who teach, evenly, as available. That's what I'd do if I were a dean. Right before getting tarred and feathered.
It's impossible for me to discuss this subject without mentioning the problem that tenured track faculty represent. So sorry.

Quote from: downer on June 26, 2019, 07:35:50 AM
Shared computers: these days a lot of universities have computers where when you log in, you get to the same set of files and your browser settings are the same wherever you are, so it makes no difference which physical terminal you use.

Our department is terminally ill. Wifi works terrible because of building construction material. They could put an ethernet outlet in my teaching room, but it wouldn't help because my laptop does not have an ethernet hookup. Being able to go online in the room would be a big advantage.
But the classrooms used by tenure track faculty have hard wired computers all ready to go.
In my department, most of the courses taught by adjunct faculty are more like labs. Small numbers of people. Small rooms. there's no hardship or indignity in a smaller room unless three or more are storing their teaching materials there. Then it is fairly inconvenient and if it's obvious to everyone that it doesn't have tone that way, also demeaning.


I have worked many places and been in charge of scheduling in more than one of them.  NEVER have I worked somewhere where adjunct faculty had separate classroom space.  In every case rooms are assigned by class size, date and time and type of course.  Most places the room numbers are assigned even before the faculty are assigned to the course.  I wonder what sort of place you teach at that singles out its adjunct faculty and puts them in separate "adjunct" classrooms?  I would run away as fast as possible if I were you.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: mahagonny on June 26, 2019, 09:04:30 AM
Quote from: chemigal on June 26, 2019, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: mahagonny on June 26, 2019, 08:14:12 AM
Quote from: polly_mer on June 26, 2019, 07:12:28 AM
Quote from: mahagonny on June 26, 2019, 06:21:45 AM
What do I need? There are levels of needs being met:
Substandard but workable; learning will take place, but seriously hampered
Barely adequate
Pretty good!
Optimal

What do those levels look like in concrete terms that a chair/dean could act upon?

Ask tenured faculty what adjunct faculty need for successful teaching and they'll probably recall the worst situation they've ever endured and then tell you that it is workable. Which is technically true, but means (1) The job of allotting workspace is an issue that takes into account faculty hierarchy, and therefore (2) it's fine for a part-timer. But ask them what they need to teach, now, and you'll get some good answers. Use those answers, and apply them to all faculty who teach, evenly, as available. That's what I'd do if I were a dean. Right before getting tarred and feathered.
It's impossible for me to discuss this subject without mentioning the problem that tenured track faculty represent. So sorry.

Quote from: downer on June 26, 2019, 07:35:50 AM
Shared computers: these days a lot of universities have computers where when you log in, you get to the same set of files and your browser settings are the same wherever you are, so it makes no difference which physical terminal you use.

Our department is terminally ill. Wifi works terrible because of building construction material. They could put an ethernet outlet in my teaching room, but it wouldn't help because my laptop does not have an ethernet hookup. Being able to go online in the room would be a big advantage.
But the classrooms used by tenure track faculty have hard wired computers all ready to go.
In my department, most of the courses taught by adjunct faculty are more like labs. Small numbers of people. Small rooms. there's no hardship or indignity in a smaller room unless three or more are storing their teaching materials there. Then it is fairly inconvenient and if it's obvious to everyone that it doesn't have tone that way, also demeaning.


I have worked many places and been in charge of scheduling in more than one of them.  NEVER have I worked somewhere where adjunct faculty had separate classroom space.  In every case rooms are assigned by class size, date and time and type of course.  Most places the room numbers are assigned even before the faculty are assigned to the course.  I wonder what sort of place you teach at that singles out its adjunct faculty and puts them in separate "adjunct" classrooms?  I would run away as fast as possible if I were you.

Of course, I can run away if I want to. Thing is, I've been doing this so long, I know what I'm doing and it takes more than a little toxicity to scare me away or get in hot water.
You don't believe me. That's what it is. I suspect we are not in the same field. The smaller rooms being used by the adjunct faculty is related to the type of course, class size, and the fact that the faculty who teach these types of courses are adjunct. In other words, there are common sense utilitarian reasons why the rooms and classes are assigned as they are. But the smaller rooms do not have the hardwired computers and, those rooms being used by adjunct faculty, do not have the negotating clout that the tenure track and their union have.
It helps to know what it's like to negotiate with admin in an adjunct-only union. One contract you try for more pay and they say 'no.' Next time around you try for computers and they say 'all right, here's one...wait, no two! computers for the whole bunch of you.' Next contract you try for 'please don't raise the parking fee so high' and they say 'no.' Etc.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: mahagonny on June 26, 2019, 09:30:12 AM
...and those few adjunct faculty who are teaching the classes in the regular rooms of course would have the use of the hard-wired computer, screen, projector, etc. i just don't happen to be one of them.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: Caracal on June 26, 2019, 01:50:16 PM
Quote from: polly_mer on June 26, 2019, 06:17:50 AM


I haven't experienced a situation where good shared office space exists and yet the expectation is to bring one's own laptop and phone.  Part of the problem with the expectation of bringing one's own laptop is often the expectation extends to the idea that one can find somewhere to sit in the library or the student union building.  Having a shared bull pen with space for storage (papers and coat/lunch) along with desk space, computers, and office phones was a much better experience in teaching, even only being on campus one day per week for about 4 hours.

Well the basic issue is that if full time faculty have laptops they are likely to be ones provided by the school and can therefore hook up to the network and printer. The system just isn't designed for people bringing their own computers. (For what its worth most of the annoying things I've encountered as an adjunct are in this category. It is just that nobody has really bothered to think through how something might work for people who aren't full time)

This particular problem isn't one I have though. I really just use the desktop in the office as a printing station since I prefer to have everything for class on my laptop, but I still need the computer to print anything.

I'd also point out that shared office space can mean a lot of things from a shared office with someone who teaches on opposite days to you, to a crowded room with 6 other people in it.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: downer on June 26, 2019, 02:00:14 PM
The place I work at has a number rooms for adjunct faculty. It's not clear that they are discipline-specific. I haven't checked out the rooms for a lot of other disciplines, but I have used 2. No one asks questions.

There are supposedly rules against food in there, and also against meeting with undergraduates there. It's not a bad rule actually since I don't want to hear other people going over work with their students. But then you need to make special arrangements to meet with the students, which is annoying.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: spork on June 26, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
I am going to interpret "good working conditions" as "what I need to do my job as effectively as is reasonably possible."

As a department chair, I need accurate and timely data on enrollment patterns and cost accounting. If you want me to generate reports on how well my department is performing, then I need that information. But no, you don't provide it, because you don't have anyone working the back end of our information systems who knows how to properly collect and collate this data.

As a department chair and an instructor, I need a user interface for course rosters that allows me to find out what students' majors are, who their advisors are, etc. But I don't get that either.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: mahagonny on June 26, 2019, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: spork on June 26, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
I am going to interpret "good working conditions" as "what I need to do my job as effectively as is reasonably possible."

As a department chair, I need accurate and timely data on enrollment patterns and cost accounting. If you want me to generate reports on how well my department is performing, then I need that information. But no, you don't provide it, because you don't have anyone working the back end of our information systems who knows how to properly collect and collate this data.

As a department chair and an instructor, I need a user interface for course rosters that allows me to find out what students' majors are, who their advisors are, etc. But I don't get that either.

Come to think of it, I've never been asked what I need for good working conditions. And being not entirely stupid, I've never told anyone.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: revert79 on June 26, 2019, 07:38:56 PM
I also hate the computer with no monitor and just a projector..."To Stop Further Collection Efforts, Call Pacific Northwest Student Loans Immediately" is a lame email for all my students to see as I try to access Google Drive for my slide lecture.  No laptop on loan from school and can't afford my own.  Having no storage is uncool.  No prayer area for Muslims (maybe that's asking a bit much).  No benefits.  Etc.

But seriously I used to work in a factory, the perks were we got free pretzels, 15-minute breaks (unpaid) when the whistle blew, and could go home early when the temperature hit 110 degrees inside.  For like $9/hr.  Adjuncting is sort of hard and undignified in some ways but it's also heaven.  I get to talk about my intellectual interests, demonstrate artmaking techniques, and hang around in museums. And get paid for it.  No whistles or enforced pretzel-eating.   Anybody else know what I mean?
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: Parasaurolophus on June 26, 2019, 08:16:35 PM
I'm about to need functional white board markers.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: polly_mer on June 27, 2019, 05:08:16 AM
Quote from: mahagonny on June 26, 2019, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: spork on June 26, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
I am going to interpret "good working conditions" as "what I need to do my job as effectively as is reasonably possible."

As a department chair, I need accurate and timely data on enrollment patterns and cost accounting. If you want me to generate reports on how well my department is performing, then I need that information. But no, you don't provide it, because you don't have anyone working the back end of our information systems who knows how to properly collect and collate this data.

As a department chair and an instructor, I need a user interface for course rosters that allows me to find out what students' majors are, who their advisors are, etc. But I don't get that either.

Come to think of it, I've never been asked what I need for good working conditions. And being not entirely stupid, I've never told anyone.

Huh.  One recurring question I answer at job interviews is what I need for good working conditions and so I have told lots of people.  At my current job, when I discovered I didn't have good enough working conditions, I kept going up the line until the people who could make the changes made the changes.  I have gotten praise from my management chain for fixing problems for everyone.

Quote from: marshwiggle on June 26, 2019, 07:28:08 AM
Quote from: polly_mer on June 26, 2019, 07:12:28 AM

At a place I was adjuncting one day per week, I was trusted with keys including one to the office supply cabinet.  As a grad student at various places, I was trusted with keys to the building.  TT at Super-Dinky College and in charge of the accreditation report?  Not trusted with keys to the building, despite often working during non-standard hours and needing access to my office.

Does any place use card access for any of these spaces? We* have cards here that give access to buildings, but I'm not aware of them being used for specific rooms. That would seem to be a decent solution, since the list could be updated every term, and like hotels, a lost card wouldn't require "re-keying" the place.

*I know full-time faculty and staff get them; I'm not sure about part-time. Since I warrant one from my full-time "day job", I don't know if I'd get one otherwise.


The problem with the key cards at my last experience was some ultra-security-conscious-evening-locker would flip the mechanical thumb lock on the main building door because the door tended to rattle in the wind.  The mechanical thumb lock was not controlled by the key card reader.  Thus, swiping the key card did not unlock the door.  Despite assurances to the contrary, people continued to flip that thumb lock nearly every time so anyone without a mechanical key could not enter the building outside of business hours and had to argue with the assigned unlocker on every phone call as to why the key card system wasn't sufficient.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: marshwiggle on June 27, 2019, 05:50:55 AM
Quote from: revert79 on June 26, 2019, 07:38:56 PM
But seriously I used to work in a factory, the perks were we got free pretzels, 15-minute breaks (unpaid) when the whistle blew, and could go home early when the temperature hit 110 degrees inside.  For like $9/hr.  Adjuncting is sort of hard and undignified in some ways but it's also heaven.  I get to talk about my intellectual interests, demonstrate artmaking techniques, and hang around in museums. And get paid for it.  No whistles or enforced pretzel-eating.   Anybody else know what I mean?

My mother always told me to remember that there were lots of people in the world who were a lot worse off than me, and I should count my blessings. Decades later, the expression is "first world problems".

I totally agree with you. If I remind myself of the much worse things other people have to deal with, then I can much more calmly and rationally talk about my problems without so much offended dignity, which doesn't really help in the long run.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: mahagonny on June 27, 2019, 06:18:01 AM
Quote from: marshwiggle on June 27, 2019, 05:50:55 AM
Quote from: revert79 on June 26, 2019, 07:38:56 PM
But seriously I used to work in a factory, the perks were we got free pretzels, 15-minute breaks (unpaid) when the whistle blew, and could go home early when the temperature hit 110 degrees inside.  For like $9/hr.  Adjuncting is sort of hard and undignified in some ways but it's also heaven.  I get to talk about my intellectual interests, demonstrate artmaking techniques, and hang around in museums. And get paid for it.  No whistles or enforced pretzel-eating.   Anybody else know what I mean?

My mother always told me to remember that there were lots of people in the world who were a lot worse off than me, and I should count my blessings. Decades later, the expression is "first world problems".

I totally agree with you. If I remind myself of the much worse things other people have to deal with, then I can much more calmly and rationally talk about my problems without so much offended dignity, which doesn't really help in the long run.

And I used to wash dishes for $2.65/hour, but that doesn't mean things that are lame about higher education hiring and jobs can't be discussed. Internally, I am grateful and happy. I adjust, I soldier on, and my work ethic is strong enough. Externally it may seem different. If I see a university president needs a million dollars a year for expanding his empire and the neglected problems within it when an adjunct with brain cancer is scuffling to get medical care, I may comment.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: revert79 on June 27, 2019, 07:17:59 AM
Quote from: mahagonny on June 27, 2019, 06:18:01 AM
Quote from: marshwiggle on June 27, 2019, 05:50:55 AM
Quote from: revert79 on June 26, 2019, 07:38:56 PM
But seriously I used to work in a factory, the perks were we got free pretzels, 15-minute breaks (unpaid) when the whistle blew, and could go home early when the temperature hit 110 degrees inside.  For like $9/hr.  Adjuncting is sort of hard and undignified in some ways but it's also heaven.  I get to talk about my intellectual interests, demonstrate artmaking techniques, and hang around in museums. And get paid for it.  No whistles or enforced pretzel-eating.   Anybody else know what I mean?

My mother always told me to remember that there were lots of people in the world who were a lot worse off than me, and I should count my blessings. Decades later, the expression is "first world problems".

I totally agree with you. If I remind myself of the much worse things other people have to deal with, then I can much more calmly and rationally talk about my problems without so much offended dignity, which doesn't really help in the long run.

And I used to wash dishes for $2.65/hour, but that doesn't mean things that are lame about higher education hiring and jobs can't be discussed. Internally, I am grateful and happy. I adjust, I soldier on, and my work ethic is strong enough. Externally it may seem different. If I see a university president needs a million dollars a year for expanding his empire and the neglected problems within it when an adjunct with brain cancer is scuffling to get medical care, I may comment.

Sure, of course.  It's reasonable to bring up problems and issues, in the hope that this will help change a situation or at least bring some visibility to injustice.  Especially when there's a feasible solution.  I do feel that keeping context in mind is important; the problems of manual labor and proletarian work are not the same as what we face as instructors.  But I also feel like I need to acknowledge and respond to my own privilege and feelings of entitlement when, for example, I start to lose my temper over a classroom with too much clutter in the easels-and-sink area, or only chairs and no stools, or whatever.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: downer on June 27, 2019, 08:33:04 AM
What successes have people had in getting improvements in working conditions or finding workarounds?

I complained several times about the way that a computer was set up in one classroom which meant it took about 10 minutes each time to make it usable. I got no results. Now I when teach there I just go in at the start of class and use the class time to set it up.

I am pretty active in opening classroom windows since I'm generally too warm in the classroom and students would not like me stripping down to my undies.

For storage space, I often just use my mailbox.

Sometimes if I want a place to rest, I will find a couch somewhere quiet.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: revert79 on June 27, 2019, 09:26:11 AM
I have had good luck going straight to IT with a work order rather than putting it through dept chair/admin.  IT likes to try out tech fixes and they don't seem to care about the rank of the person asking for help
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: Caracal on June 27, 2019, 09:34:05 AM
I will say that most of the things that really annoy me are totally fixable. I'm lucky enough to have a chair and department that are pretty good about courses, transparency, office space and stuff like that. The things that are really annoying are on the school level.

Take parking for example. At the beginning of every year, I always find that despite whatever new parking system is being used, I still have to get 4 forms and go to three different offices so I can prove that I actually teach there and be allowed to pay a couple hundred bucks for a faculty parking permit. Why can't parking just have access to the system that shows I'm teaching classes? Or couldn't they just let me renew it and assume I'm probably not running a scam where I once taught classes there and now want to pay a lot for parking? I'm pretty sure the answer is just that nobody has thought about the 30 percent of faculty who are part time when they set up this system.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: mahagonny on June 27, 2019, 02:48:54 PM
Quote from: revert79 on June 27, 2019, 07:17:59 AM
Quote from: mahagonny on June 27, 2019, 06:18:01 AM
Quote from: marshwiggle on June 27, 2019, 05:50:55 AM
Quote from: revert79 on June 26, 2019, 07:38:56 PM
But seriously I used to work in a factory, the perks were we got free pretzels, 15-minute breaks (unpaid) when the whistle blew, and could go home early when the temperature hit 110 degrees inside.  For like $9/hr.  Adjuncting is sort of hard and undignified in some ways but it's also heaven.  I get to talk about my intellectual interests, demonstrate artmaking techniques, and hang around in museums. And get paid for it.  No whistles or enforced pretzel-eating.   Anybody else know what I mean?

My mother always told me to remember that there were lots of people in the world who were a lot worse off than me, and I should count my blessings. Decades later, the expression is "first world problems".

I totally agree with you. If I remind myself of the much worse things other people have to deal with, then I can much more calmly and rationally talk about my problems without so much offended dignity, which doesn't really help in the long run.

And I used to wash dishes for $2.65/hour, but that doesn't mean things that are lame about higher education hiring and jobs can't be discussed. Internally, I am grateful and happy. I adjust, I soldier on, and my work ethic is strong enough. Externally it may seem different. If I see a university president needs a million dollars a year for expanding his empire and the neglected problems within it when an adjunct with brain cancer is scuffling to get medical care, I may comment.

Sure, of course.  It's reasonable to bring up problems and issues, in the hope that this will help change a situation or at least bring some visibility to injustice.  Especially when there's a feasible solution.  I do feel that keeping context in mind is important; the problems of manual labor and proletarian work are not the same as what we face as instructors.  But I also feel like I need to acknowledge and respond to my own privilege and feelings of entitlement when, for example, I start to lose my temper over a classroom with too much clutter in the easels-and-sink area, or only chairs and no stools, or whatever.

While you're busy keeping your self entitlement in check, who advocates for the students and their educational needs?
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: wellfleet on June 28, 2019, 02:58:11 PM
I adjunct at the school where I also work full-time, which makes my individual deal pretty sweet (I also charge a very high rate to teach, so yay me). However, the biggest working conditions problem here falls on everyone equally: the janitorial service does not clean classrooms. Ever.

So gross. So gross. And I don't just mean having to carve through layers of dried whiteboard marker schmear to write on the boards.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: Conjugate on June 28, 2019, 03:57:17 PM
Well, I have it pretty good.  The one problem I have is with printing.

When I got here, every desk (in a converted classroom with cubicles) had a PC and a printer. There was also a copier down the hall that only copied; it was not networked. Then there was the main printing office, for large print jobs.

Then we got the networked printer/copiers. We were told that when the office printers broke down they would not be replaced, and that it would no longer be possible to order toner cartridges for them (but we still found a way to get the school to do that, on the sly. I don't know the details, but some of the administrative assistants can work wonders). The problem with the networked printer was, well, multi-faceted. 

First of all, the only networked printer I can use is in a separate building from the one where my office is (because of the way offices were arranged.) When we got tenure-track faculty out of the cubicle offices, we got offices wherever they could find them. So if my printer dies, I must (1) send my document to the common networked printer, (2) leave my building, walk maybe 50 yards to another building, up two flights of stairs, and go to the copier; (3) see if the document has printed.

(3a) Briefly, the machine had this problem where, if someone else were using the copier, my quizzes or whatever would be interleaved with whatever was being printed on the copier by someone else, or if someone else tried to print with special paper, my print job would come out on their paper, causing them to run out of special paper before their job was completed. No, I don't know why.

(3b) Then, for a while, I could not print except by choosing "Secure Print," and after going to the copier/printer, putting in my PIN and checking to see if the print was right. God help me if I couldn't remember the PIN or had mistyped it when sending the print job.

(3c) Now, occasionally, when I want 30 3-page exams collated and stapled, it will uncheck the "collate" box for whatever odd reason, and I will get 30 copies of Page 1 all stapled together, 30 copies of Page 2 all stapled, and 30 of Page 3 all stapled. Also, sometimes, I get one page of what I wanted and 29 blank pages, or some strange combination of these problems.

So, (4) if there is a problem with the print, I have to walk back down two flights of stairs, 50 yards back to my building, and send the print job again, and repeat the process. Or email the Administrative Assistant, who would do this for me from her office next to the printer/copier.

So I am VERY careful with that damned printer in my office!

Oh, and I want a good supply of paper pads, pens, dry-erase markers, and such.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: docmama on June 28, 2019, 06:48:59 PM
This seems basic, but a couple of the places I've taught have had severe mold problems. Mold remediation would be a nice baseline for good working conditions.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: aside on June 28, 2019, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: docmama on June 28, 2019, 06:48:59 PM
This seems basic, but a couple of the places I've taught have had severe mold problems. Mold remediation would be a nice baseline for good working conditions.

I've experienced this as well.  Asbestos abatement would also be nice.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: polly_mer on June 28, 2019, 07:43:28 PM
Quote from: wellfleet on June 28, 2019, 02:58:11 PM
I adjunct at the school where I also work full-time, which makes my individual deal pretty sweet (I also charge a very high rate to teach, so yay me). However, the biggest working conditions problem here falls on everyone equally: the janitorial service does not clean classrooms. Ever.

After my first year at one institution, the department had a discussion regarding classroom cleaning schedules.  The chair took a couple bullet points as requests to facilities.  The head of facilities listened politely and then informed the chair that heads would roll because what we were requesting as modest improvements was lower than what was supposed to be already being done.  In the fall, we had new custodial staff who not only emptied the trash in classrooms every day, but also swept the floor a minimum of twice per week as well as cleaning the boards a few times per week.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: mahagonny on June 29, 2019, 07:13:16 AM
Regarding building upkeep cleaning and repairs; I  suspect state bureaucracies are among the worst functioning. They give unions a bad name. Whereas if I didn't do my job there are plenty of ways they could find out and plenty they could do about it. But we never had a union. Now that we do, it is interested in our need to perform well, as well as our rights as workers.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: mahagonny on June 29, 2019, 11:45:46 AM
Quote from: wellfleet on June 28, 2019, 02:58:11 PM
I adjunct at the school where I also work full-time, which makes my individual deal pretty sweet (I also charge a very high rate to teach, so yay me). However, the biggest working conditions problem here falls on everyone equally: the janitorial service does not clean classrooms. Ever.

So gross. So gross. And I don't just mean having to carve through layers of dried whiteboard marker schmear to write on the boards.

Instead of taking the adjunct gig for extra $, why not clean a few rooms yourself. Call it giving back to the community. Do that can I'll have a reason to say 'yay wellfleet.'
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: mahagonny on June 29, 2019, 12:28:30 PM
Another work condition that is all too often  in need of improvement is freedom from toxicity and disreputable company in the workplace in the form of an administrator(s) who wants to meddle in adjunct faculty union organizing decisions or communications.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: AnaTommy on June 30, 2019, 05:38:15 AM
All I want is a window in my office or at least in one of the classrooms. Sometimes I am not sure if the outside world is real.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: fosca on July 03, 2019, 08:54:03 AM
I had a classroom once with a hole in the ceiling/roof; I could look up through it and see the sky.  This was in New York State, so it did get cold and wet at times.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: mahagonny on July 04, 2019, 07:52:48 AM
Quote from: fosca on July 03, 2019, 08:54:03 AM
I had a classroom once with a hole in the ceiling/roof; I could look up through it and see the sky.  This was in New York State, so it did get cold and wet at times.

Wow. I had a room that flooded through a wall.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: the_geneticist on July 12, 2019, 01:58:32 PM
Access to the little niceties adds up fast.  Like being able to get basic supplies (post-it notes, pens, markers) without being grilled as to whether you will REALLY be using them to teach.  A key to the break room so you can use the refrigerator and microwave.  Having a voice, even if you don't have a vote, in faculty discussions of teaching issues. 
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: Juvenal on July 12, 2019, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: the_geneticist on July 12, 2019, 01:58:32 PM
Access to the little niceties adds up fast.  Like being able to get basic supplies (post-it notes, pens, markers) without being grilled as to whether you will REALLY be using them to teach.  A key to the break room so you can use the refrigerator and microwave.  Having a voice, even if you don't have a vote, in faculty discussions of teaching issues.

This adjunct must live in Paradise.  Have all those things and a card key to the faculty bathroom.  Not even FT have a key to the supply closet, but ask the AA for access and it's "Open sesame" for all.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: the_geneticist on July 15, 2019, 10:13:13 AM
Quote from: Juvenal on July 12, 2019, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: the_geneticist on July 12, 2019, 01:58:32 PM
Access to the little niceties adds up fast.  Like being able to get basic supplies (post-it notes, pens, markers) without being grilled as to whether you will REALLY be using them to teach.  A key to the break room so you can use the refrigerator and microwave.  Having a voice, even if you don't have a vote, in faculty discussions of teaching issues.

This adjunct must live in Paradise.  Have all those things and a card key to the faculty bathroom.  Not even FT have a key to the supply closet, but ask the AA for access and it's "Open sesame" for all.

I'm not an adjust, but I've seen a dysfunctional department scare away some really awesome part-time folks by treating them like they were disposable.
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: Caracal on July 17, 2019, 07:52:26 AM
Quote from: Juvenal on July 12, 2019, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: the_geneticist on July 12, 2019, 01:58:32 PM
Access to the little niceties adds up fast.  Like being able to get basic supplies (post-it notes, pens, markers) without being grilled as to whether you will REALLY be using them to teach.  A key to the break room so you can use the refrigerator and microwave.  Having a voice, even if you don't have a vote, in faculty discussions of teaching issues.

This adjunct must live in Paradise.  Have all those things and a card key to the faculty bathroom.  Not even FT have a key to the supply closet, but ask the AA for access and it's "Open sesame" for all.

Really? You guys have restricted supply closets? Everywhere I've been its just an open room in the department office. Also you have separate faculty bathrooms?
Title: Re: What do you need for good working conditions?
Post by: mahagonny on July 17, 2019, 08:51:34 AM
Quote from: the_geneticist on July 15, 2019, 10:13:13 AM
Quote from: Juvenal on July 12, 2019, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: the_geneticist on July 12, 2019, 01:58:32 PM
Access to the little niceties adds up fast.  Like being able to get basic supplies (post-it notes, pens, markers) without being grilled as to whether you will REALLY be using them to teach.  A key to the break room so you can use the refrigerator and microwave.  Having a voice, even if you don't have a vote, in faculty discussions of teaching issues.

This adjunct must live in Paradise.  Have all those things and a card key to the faculty bathroom.  Not even FT have a key to the supply closet, but ask the AA for access and it's "Open sesame" for all.

I'm not an adjust, but I've seen a dysfunctional department scare away some really awesome part-time folks by treating them like they were disposable.

Dysfunctional according to whom? that's absolutely normal. Higher ed culture long ago gave up on the idea that part time teaching jobs should attract people for any basic working conditions reasons. The most predominant advice is to quit. Maybe not everywhere, but certainly on this forum. The more energetic and narcissistic of those advisors then congratulate themselves on their thoughtfulness for having given that advice.