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Started by fishbrains, June 26, 2022, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: Tee_Bee on June 29, 2022, 07:32:46 PMQuote from: downer on June 28, 2022, 09:52:47 AMI recently learned that planes could be more than 50% lighter if they didn't have passenger windows. Will an airline ever offer that option for a lower price?Emirates is one airline that floated this idea, suggesting that video screens could be used instead of windows. One of the few remaining joys of flying is looking out the window, so I am not a fan. Per some article I just read, the advantage of a truly windowless plane is that the structure of the fuselage would be less complex without window openings. If you want to know what poorly designed windows (or, to be more fair, windows designed before the stresses of pressurizing and depressurizing cabins were well understood), look into the fate of the de Havilland Comet. I do like planes that have cameras that you can call up on the entertainment screen, and if I were in charge there'd be all kinds of cameras for cool views. Who needs an inflight movie when you can see the cool views the pilots get?The idea that the airlines, once they implemented such a plane, would lower fares because their costs have declined is fantasy. Airlines will charge what they can. Case in point: Fares are very high this summer, due both to higher fuel costs and insanely pent-up demand. I was thinking of popping up to Alaska this summer, but at $1200 to Anchorage r/t, I'll wait. Last I checked, it's a lot cheaper in October. Downside: It's October. Even then, inflation adjusted airfares now are still no where near what they were when I was a lad growing up in Alaska in the early 1970s. Flying is sometimes frustrating, and it used to terrify me. Now I quite like it, I find airports fascinating for people watching, and once the plane is in the air and I can look at the window (if it's not cloudy/dark) I find it really relaxing. It's the getting on and off that's stressful. And while the golden age of steaks, smoking, and nonstop booze (and remarkably frequent crashes) are behind us, I will note that a six-hour cross country flight beats the hell out of riding the train cross country (I've done that three times, and it's really fun, but it's slow) or driving cross-country (ditto) or, honestly, crossing in a covered wagon. If our biggest problem is the lack of seat recline and that our favorite brand of gin isn't on offer, we really don't have much of a problem at all.
Quote from: downer on June 28, 2022, 09:52:47 AMI recently learned that planes could be more than 50% lighter if they didn't have passenger windows. Will an airline ever offer that option for a lower price?
Quote from: dismalist on June 29, 2022, 07:48:46 PMA lovely, lovely post, tee bee! However to clear up a thing or two-In competition, hell even in monopoly, when costs fall, prices fall.
Quote-the biggest problem is really that my favorite wine is not on offer! :-)
Quote from: AvidReader on June 30, 2022, 03:31:20 AMI need to travel between Europe and North America in August. ..Cheapest one-way ticket that doesn't include a leg on a budget is about $700 (without luggage), yet the cheapest return ticket is only $800. I have never understood why the return flight adds so little to the costs. irlin...
Quote from: mamselle on June 30, 2022, 10:56:57 AMIf you're booking business travel, you're usually booking through a dedicated agency like Carlson Wagon-Lit, which plays all those one-ways off against each other internally (i.e., within your own company's account) or externally (i.e., their universe of clients). They also do open-jaw arrangements where they sell back the other halves to someone else.M.
Quote from: fishbrains on March 14, 2023, 04:11:31 AMHotels: Quit making your showers so f*cking complicated. I'm taking a shower, not flying the damn space shuttle! And vent the space, so I'm not sweating while toweling off. Jeepers.
Quote from: Sun_Worshiper on June 08, 2023, 05:03:09 PMI've come to hate flying Southwest. The hunger games system of boarding was always annoying, but my irritation jumped to another level last time, when several people who boarded in Group A tried to save seats for their family members who were waiting at the gate.