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Re: Why so quiet?
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2023, 05:08:14 PM »
CHE didn't want visitors. They wanted subscribers. The Fora didn't seem to provide subscribers. The effort it took to keep The Fora going wasn't worth it to them.
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Re: Why so quiet?
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2023, 08:57:25 PM »


I would be here much more often if this discussion board was still operated by the Chronicle of Higher Education.

And I would visit the Chronicle of Higher Education much more if it still contained an online discussion board.

The Chronicle of Higher Education really shot themselves in the foot.

CHE didn't want visitors. They wanted subscribers. The Fora didn't seem to provide subscribers. The effort it took to keep The Fora going wasn't worth it to them.

My uni had an institutional subscription (at great expense, I might add), so everything on the CHE web site could be accessed by me and my co-workers via institution log-in credentials or being physically on the campus LAN. When the CHE dropped the Fora and comments on articles, I don't think it was a coincidence that my uni dropped their institutional subscription. The Fora added value to the CHE product, but the CHE didn't seem to think so. It's a loss for CHE, as far as I'm concerned. I'm not all that concerned about no longer having access to CHE articles. The articles really started going downhill.

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Re: Why so quiet?
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2023, 06:34:19 AM »
CHE didn't want visitors. They wanted subscribers. The Fora didn't seem to provide subscribers. The effort it took to keep The Fora going wasn't worth it to them.

The way you get subscribers is getting visitors, who are then exposed to the subscriber-only content.

The way you keep subscribers is building personal engagement and connection on a website, which keeps them returning and remembering why they didn't mind paying for content.

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Re: Why so quiet?
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2023, 07:34:00 AM »
CHE didn't want visitors. They wanted subscribers. The Fora didn't seem to provide subscribers. The effort it took to keep The Fora going wasn't worth it to them.

The way you get subscribers is getting visitors, who are then exposed to the subscriber-only content.

The way you keep subscribers is building personal engagement and connection on a website, which keeps them returning and remembering why they didn't mind paying for content.

Maybe so. But it's hard time for journalism and there's some liability in having random people add comments on pages that a web based source hosts. IHE also scrapped reader comments. I remember there was once a thread on the old fora about how many people there had CHE subscriptions, and almost no one did. So it didn't work for them. Maybe if they had done it differently, it would have. As I recall, they didn't even run ads on the old fora. I haven't seen any other online journalistic publications which allow completely free range reader generated discussion and use it as a way to generate subscriptions.

NY Times and other papers do continue to have reader comments on articles. Slate does it too. I'm guessing that they hire one or more people to supervise those comments.

These days Reddit occupies the main space for free range discussion. That relies a great deal on volunteers.  There's Twitter, and academic twitter was interesting. It probably still is but I left twitter.
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Re: Why so quiet?
« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2023, 11:12:26 AM »
Maybe we can have a recruitment drive?  Invite a coworker to join The Fora.
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Re: Why so quiet?
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2023, 01:01:30 PM »
Maybe we can have a recruitment drive?  Invite a coworker to join The Fora.

I'd never do that, although I was chatting to a teacher friend the other day about how internet academic discussion places can fill a gap left by the deterioration of academic life.
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Re: Why so quiet?
« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2023, 02:10:53 PM »
Maybe we can have a recruitment drive?  Invite a coworker to join The Fora.

I'd never do that, although I was chatting to a teacher friend the other day about how internet academic discussion places can fill a gap left by the deterioration of academic life.

I've pointed some friends and acquaintances in our direction.

What we really need, though, is to be Googleable. Preferably on the first page of results.


So... we need to be linked to from prominent pages (including, shudder, ReddIt). What else goes into SEO these days?
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Re: Why so quiet?
« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2023, 06:00:33 PM »
It would be easy to post this address on Reddit if you like.
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Re: Why so quiet?
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2023, 07:03:58 AM »
There are tech people who specialize in this, paying for higher priority in search results. I don't know of any myself.

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Re: Why so quiet?
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2023, 10:37:23 PM »
I've tinkered with some of the forum's guts, which I think should help with indexing. We'll see whenever the Google spiders come crawling.

It would be easy to post this address on Reddit if you like.

I think it's good to do that sort of thing whenever the opportunity arises.
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