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Title: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: dismalist on October 02, 2020, 02:38:56 PM
There's a "Trendy words I don't like thread". It has been pleasing to see that there was hardly any disagreement about the validity of the posted words.

But there are words -- pithy or evocative or otherwise memorable -- which could be used more.

I just came across "baffled", which I've always liked when I've heard it, but has not been part of my active vocabulary.

It very much beats the "I'm confused", said with an emphatic undertone that implies that  my confusion is your fault!

Has anyone else come across words like that? Which words?

Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: mamselle on October 02, 2020, 02:41:06 PM
Covalence.

Coherent.

Cogent,

Calm.

(I'd like the things they represent to be around more, so we'd have more cause to use just those words to describe them, actually).

M.

Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: apl68 on October 02, 2020, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: dismalist on October 02, 2020, 02:38:56 PM
There's a "Trendy words I don't like thread". It has been pleasing to see that there was hardly any disagreement about the validity of the posted words.

But there are words -- pithy or evocative or otherwise memorable -- which could be used more.

I just came across "baffled", which I've always liked when I've heard it, but has not been part of my active vocabulary.

It very much beats the "I'm confused", said with an emphatic undertone that implies that  my confusion is your fault!

Has anyone else come across words like that? Which words?

I used "baffled" only moments ago.  I'm baffled as to what happened to that book on ancient Rome that I returned months ago--physically brought it back to the library--only to have it disappear into thin air.  I was just reminded that the missing book is still on my library account.  Kind of embarrassing when you're the librarian....
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: mamselle on October 02, 2020, 05:05:03 PM
I'm baffled at what happened to a truly important book I got in 1973 that was signed by the author that I would have NEVER lent out.

It disappeared 20 years ago and I still can't find it....

M.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Vkw10 on October 02, 2020, 08:10:20 PM
Somewhat. Rather. Prefer.

I'm sorta somewhat tired of fish.

I'm kinda rather frustrated with contradictory guidance on this virus.

I would kinda like prefer people to omit the modifier, but I'm sorta resigned to unnecessary modifiers.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: ergative on October 03, 2020, 01:34:25 AM
Residual
Eponymous
Intemperate
Contiguous

I think I might just like the prosodic da-DUM-da-da of the stress patterns. (What is that called? Wikipedia suggests that it is a 'secundus paeon'. Is that right, oh metrical experts?)
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: financeguy on October 03, 2020, 02:11:03 AM
I noticed how often Trump uses overrated when critiquing someone, one of his few vocabulary habits one could do well to adopt. If a person has high credibility and success such that your attempt to critique them will likely move no minds, call them overrated. It's persuasion gold since it's almost impossible to argue against the fact that anyone highly regarded isn't overrated.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: apl68 on October 03, 2020, 07:46:28 AM
Now baffled again.  We have a staff member who's quite good at math in the abstract, but seems altogether incapable of making changing and keeping proper track of the cash drawer.  What's going on here? 
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: marshwiggle on October 03, 2020, 08:15:03 AM
Quote from: apl68 on October 03, 2020, 07:46:28 AM
Now baffled again.  We have a staff member who's quite good at math in the abstract, but seems altogether incapable of making changing and keeping proper track of the cash drawer.  What's going on here?

This sounds like a distinction between "math" and "arithmetic". Being good at one doesn't automatically mean being good at the other.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Larimar on October 03, 2020, 08:35:54 AM
Quote from: ergative on October 03, 2020, 01:34:25 AM
Residual
Eponymous
Intemperate
Contiguous

I think I might just like the prosodic da-DUM-da-da of the stress patterns. (What is that called? Wikipedia suggests that it is a 'secundus paeon'. Is that right, oh metrical experts?)

Oh, I like those words.

Your metrical pattern looks like a dactyl with a previous unstressed syllable from the preceding dactyl. I tried looking it up as you have it, and I tried looking up secundus paeon, but didn't find it.


Here are some more words:

continual
defenestrate
vibrant
liminal
ostensibly
eclectic

:)

Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Langue_doc on October 03, 2020, 09:09:54 AM
[quotePosted by: Larimar
« on: Today at 08:35:54 AM »Insert Quote
Quote from: ergative on Today at 01:34:25 AM
Residual
Eponymous
Intemperate
Contiguous

I think I might just like the prosodic da-DUM-da-da of the stress patterns. (What is that called? Wikipedia suggests that it is a 'secundus paeon'. Is that right, oh metrical experts?)

Oh, I like those words.

Your metrical pattern looks like a dactyl with a previous unstressed syllable from the preceding dactyl. I tried looking it up as you have it, and I tried looking up secundus paeon, but didn't find it.


Here are some more words:

continual
defenestrate
vibrant
liminal
ostensibly
eclectic

:)][/quote]

Eclectic is one of my favorite words.
Here are others:
inadvertent/inadvertently
deliberate/deliberately
imprudent
inauspicious
dispossessed
iambic

On edit: couldn't get the quote function to work
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Myword on October 03, 2020, 09:13:54 AM
in public discourse, not academic)

precarious,caused,probability

some  ---- People disagree and argue because they mean some, not all.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: RatGuy on October 03, 2020, 09:28:02 AM
Thanks to Meville, I know that gurried means "covered in fish slime."
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Vkw10 on October 03, 2020, 10:14:15 AM
Egregious
Morose and lugubrious
Cockamamie
Fractious
Ebullient
Cordial (not in reference to a beverage)


Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Treehugger on October 03, 2020, 11:25:40 AM
Toothsome
Scofflaw
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: jimbogumbo on October 03, 2020, 11:35:58 AM
jejune
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: ab_grp on October 03, 2020, 01:19:39 PM
lachrymose
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: dismalist on October 03, 2020, 02:00:08 PM
And then, of course, we could use the word lachrymator instead of the term tear gas!
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Harlow2 on October 03, 2020, 03:16:59 PM
Inchoate
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Langue_doc on October 03, 2020, 03:51:28 PM
anathema
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Vkw10 on October 03, 2020, 04:10:22 PM
Quote from: Treehugger on October 03, 2020, 11:25:40 AM
Toothsome
Scofflaw

I second scofflaw.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: dismalist on October 03, 2020, 04:11:54 PM
I love all this stuff! I've known all the words, save one, but do not use all that many talking and writing.

The one new word I learned is gurried:

QuoteThanks to Meville, I know that gurried means "covered in fish slime."

Can't wait to use it :-)
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: aside on October 03, 2020, 06:46:30 PM
Please
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Langue_doc on October 03, 2020, 09:02:53 PM
flaneur
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: sinenomine on October 04, 2020, 03:19:36 AM
behoove

perspicacity
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: writingprof on October 04, 2020, 05:59:52 AM
Racist.

Oh, no, scratch that.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: mamselle on October 04, 2020, 11:23:21 AM
Compassion.

Even if it's already been mentioned above.

M.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Cheerful on October 04, 2020, 02:05:21 PM
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: lillipat on October 04, 2020, 07:06:17 PM
"Lugubrious" reminds me of a dear aunt, whom I didn't know well until I was grown, but my father, her brother, always mentioned with pride what an extensive vocabulary she had.  We were singing together at a workshop on sacred music, and she mentioned that she'd always disliked the lugubrious tune of a particular well-known piece.  And that was when I knew that she and I were indeed related!  I too had always disliked that tune, and I so loved that she termed it "lugubrious," because that's exactly what it was.

"Inchoate," on the other hand, reminds me vividly of my music theory prof, who used the term to discuss early developments of functional harmony.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: aside on October 04, 2020, 07:16:18 PM
Coeval. Often a better choice than "contemporary."
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: apl68 on October 05, 2020, 07:28:34 AM
Defenestrate

Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: hmaria1609 on October 05, 2020, 07:25:41 PM
Quote from: apl68 on October 05, 2020, 07:28:34 AM
Defenestrate
An all too common occurrence on "Game of Thrones," for those who watched the show or knew someone who did.  :D
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Dismal on October 05, 2020, 10:14:19 PM
Discernment.

I do think I might try to use Baffled in my next faculty meeting.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Anselm on October 05, 2020, 10:44:25 PM
An English teacher recently praised me for using ebullient in a sentence.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: ergative on October 05, 2020, 11:27:45 PM
My mother was once womanning a stall at a college fair at my sister's high school. While talking to a prospective student, she used the term 'ludicrous'. The prospective student said, 'Oh, you must be [sister]'s mother.'
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: apl68 on October 06, 2020, 07:53:19 AM
I was once surprised when grading an undergrad paper to see the student use "crapulent."  And he used it correctly!
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: paultuttle on October 06, 2020, 02:31:51 PM
pithy
evocative




[ducks and runs]
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Langue_doc on October 06, 2020, 02:33:05 PM
mellifluous
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Larimar on October 06, 2020, 02:38:50 PM
Quote from: Langue_doc on October 06, 2020, 02:33:05 PM
mellifluous

Ooh, I like that one.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 06, 2020, 03:32:07 PM
Forthwith

Quote from: dismalist on October 03, 2020, 04:11:54 PM
I love all this stuff! I've known all the words, save one, but do not use all that many talking and writing.

The one new word I learned is gurried:

QuoteThanks to Meville, I know that gurried means "covered in fish slime."

Can't wait to use it :-)

Wow, that's a keeper!

(Any bets on whether the Spelling Bee accepts it?)
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: saffie on October 06, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
fallacious   

(heard in an MIT OCW lecture on probability)
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: aside on October 06, 2020, 06:56:03 PM
Specious.
Disingenuous.
Prevarication.
Duplicitous

(Something about election season ...)
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Anselm on October 07, 2020, 08:11:37 AM
https://www.news.com.au/oldfashioned-words-that-should-be-brought-back-into-modern-language/news-story/be009f7c855959f4e43143c3cc0d2630
https://www.dailywritingtips.com/100-whimsical-words/
https://www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/24-old-english-terms-you-should-start-using-again.html
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/59924/50-old-british-dialect-words-incorporate-conversation
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: RatGuy on October 07, 2020, 08:48:22 AM
My wife went through a Wilkie Collins phase, and would occasionally try to bring back such phrases as "bitch the pot" and "a case of the morbs."

I learned the term "shallowpate" recently -- in the most recent Barbara Kingsolver novel, maybe?
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 07, 2020, 09:07:49 AM
Quote from: saffie on October 06, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
fallacious   

(heard in an MIT OCW lecture on probability)

I hear that one all over the place, and it's almost always misused. Much like 'valid' or 'invalid', 'sound', and 'begs the question'.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: ciao_yall on October 07, 2020, 10:03:13 AM
Quote from: Parasaurolophus on October 07, 2020, 09:07:49 AM
Quote from: saffie on October 06, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
fallacious   

(heard in an MIT OCW lecture on probability)

I hear that one all over the place, and it's almost always misused. Much like 'valid' or 'invalid', 'sound', and 'begs the question'.

Except whenever I hear that word I think "fellatio" and giggle.
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: ergative on October 08, 2020, 03:54:15 AM
Quote from: ciao_yall on October 07, 2020, 10:03:13 AM
Quote from: Parasaurolophus on October 07, 2020, 09:07:49 AM
Quote from: saffie on October 06, 2020, 05:05:39 PM
fallacious   

(heard in an MIT OCW lecture on probability)

I hear that one all over the place, and it's almost always misused. Much like 'valid' or 'invalid', 'sound', and 'begs the question'.

Except whenever I hear that word I think "fellatio" and giggle.

Ditto, except 'phallacious'
Title: Re: Words that could be used more frequently
Post by: mahagonny on November 07, 2020, 08:22:19 AM
My friend informs me that his 20-something woke daughter says we must not use the word 'exotic' any more. It implies that things that are familiar to white people are the norm and things that are less familiar are strange or interesting in a strange way. Which is kinda how life is. So I'm going to use the word 'exotic' if the opportunity comes along. But not pejoratively.