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dismalist

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Re: Trivial Irrelevant Aggravations
« Reply #150 on: June 22, 2022, 05:49:20 PM »
Last gambit: Freshness of the eggs? I'm punctilious about that.

Yes, but not in the direction you might think-- the older the eggs, the easier they are to peel. Why? Over time, the egg looses some water (the shell is not perfectly evaporation-proof), and so shrinks a bit, pulling away from the membrane and shell.
So use the freshest eggs for out-of-shell cooking, and save some older ones for boiling.

Theory makes sense. Practice claims I've not had the problem! Theory must be incomplete.

Last gambit +1: What's the elevation? I'm near sea level. [Different boiling points.]

Is Juvenal making soft boiled eggs in Colorado, when he thinks he's making hard boiled eggs near the Dead Sea?

This is all very challenging and difficult.

Practice suggests you may never have had actually fresh eggs. Most supermarket eggs aren't all that fresh.

You mean those "sell by" dates are fiction? The horror! There oughta be a law!

I can't trust the regulators anymore. :-(
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Re: Trivial Irrelevant Aggravations
« Reply #151 on: June 22, 2022, 06:33:17 PM »
I use an egg steamer, then into an icewater bath.  I still get the occasional mangled egg.
And how is that working out for you?

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Re: Trivial Irrelevant Aggravations
« Reply #152 on: June 22, 2022, 07:59:09 PM »
Last gambit: Freshness of the eggs? I'm punctilious about that.

Yes, but not in the direction you might think-- the older the eggs, the easier they are to peel. Why? Over time, the egg looses some water (the shell is not perfectly evaporation-proof), and so shrinks a bit, pulling away from the membrane and shell.
So use the freshest eggs for out-of-shell cooking, and save some older ones for boiling.

Theory makes sense. Practice claims I've not had the problem! Theory must be incomplete.

Last gambit +1: What's the elevation? I'm near sea level. [Different boiling points.]

Is Juvenal making soft boiled eggs in Colorado, when he thinks he's making hard boiled eggs near the Dead Sea?

This is all very challenging and difficult.

Practice suggests you may never have had actually fresh eggs. Most supermarket eggs aren't all that fresh.

You mean those "sell by" dates are fiction? The horror! There oughta be a law!

I can't trust the regulators anymore. :-(

Yes, but again not in the direction you think--Eggs will last months in the fridge and still be safe to eat.
In fact most "best by" "sell by" and expiration dates are pure fiction.
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Re: Trivial Irrelevant Aggravations
« Reply #153 on: June 22, 2022, 08:35:38 PM »
As I said, I can't trust the regulators. :-)

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Re: Trivial Irrelevant Aggravations
« Reply #154 on: June 23, 2022, 06:30:54 AM »
As I said, I can't trust the regulators. :-)

It's actually not the regulators, it's the companies. By putting "best by" dates on things, they encourage more waste (stores pull from the shelf, consumers toss) and more spending. I know that's hard for you to accept that "the market" could be wronging you :-)
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Re: Trivial Irrelevant Aggravations
« Reply #155 on: June 23, 2022, 06:37:12 AM »
Last gambit: Freshness of the eggs? I'm punctilious about that.

Yes, but not in the direction you might think-- the older the eggs, the easier they are to peel. Why? Over time, the egg looses some water (the shell is not perfectly evaporation-proof), and so shrinks a bit, pulling away from the membrane and shell.
So use the freshest eggs for out-of-shell cooking, and save some older ones for boiling.


Theory makes sense. Practice claims I've not had the problem! Theory must be incomplete.

Last gambit +1: What's the elevation? I'm near sea level. [Different boiling points.]

Is Juvenal making soft boiled eggs in Colorado, when he thinks he's making hard boiled eggs near the Dead Sea?

This is all very challenging and difficult.

Indeed; it's one of modern life's mysteries.  I live nowhere near the Dead Sea or Denver.  My elevation is exactly 100 feet above sea level.  I've heard the "freshness eggs" vs. "veteran eggs," idea, but supermarket eggs might actually be of different ages in the carton.  I suppose I could set a carton aside (in the fridge) for a month to veteranize them.  Or just resign myself to the "will it--won't it?" game as each egg comes to my hand, white-shrouded.
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Re: Trivial Irrelevant Aggravations
« Reply #156 on: June 23, 2022, 08:02:20 AM »
As I said, I can't trust the regulators. :-)

It's actually not the regulators, it's the companies. By putting "best by" dates on things, they encourage more waste (stores pull from the shelf, consumers toss) and more spending. I know that's hard for you to accept that "the market" could be wronging you :-)

For eggs, it's state regulations, but some states do not allow sell-by dates. When a "sell-by" date appears on a carton bearing the USDA grade shield, the code date may not exceed 30 days from the date of pack.
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Re: Trivial Irrelevant Aggravations
« Reply #157 on: June 23, 2022, 08:48:27 AM »

Indeed; it's one of modern life's mysteries.  I live nowhere near the Dead Sea or Denver.  My elevation is exactly 100 feet above sea level.  I've heard the "freshness eggs" vs. "veteran eggs," idea, but supermarket eggs might actually be of different ages in the carton.  I suppose I could set a carton aside (in the fridge) for a month to veteranize them.  Or just resign myself to the "will it--won't it?" game as each egg comes to my hand, white-shrouded.

Ah, one operation I forgot to mention in getting my near perfect eggs: I puncture the shell at the big end, where the gas bubble is [I'm a big-endian.] before putting the egg into boiling water. One can buy so-called egg piercers cheap. [Five bucks at Amazon, e.g.]
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