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Started by Hibush, May 17, 2019, 05:35:11 PM

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selecter


dismalist

Thank you so much for the ungated version. It is well worth reading.

While the usual is being done at the college, the most significant decision is probably: The changes will also allow the College to build upon the momentum generated by new offerings, including the 2-in-4 program, in which students can earn a bachelor's and master's degree in four years ... .

Once we're at 0-in-4 we're close to home!

In bad times there is nothing like competition to energize kicking down barriers which have become artifacts. :-)
That's not even wrong!
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Hibush

Quote from: selecter on August 02, 2020, 03:23:03 PM
Sorry. Paywall on that one. This one isn't as detailed ... but has the basics ...
https://www.news10.com/news/the-college-of-saint-rose-to-address-financial-issues/

The interim president is an alumna who has experience making an arts nonprofit organization financially sustainable. That is a positive sign in that she knows how to center on the mission and make the dreaded budget cuts in light of that.

I'm skeptical though about reviving the nursing program. Their one-time leadership in that discipline won't have momentum seven decades after they dropped it. They won't even have alumnae. Another thread here goes into the irrational expectation that administrators bring to new nursing programs.

Aster

The mean time for university students to complete a bachelor's degree in my region is 6.5 years.

The College of St. Rose must be a super elite institution if they're cranking out graduates with a combined bachelor's and master's in 4 years.

dismalist

Quote from: Aster on August 02, 2020, 07:05:51 PM
The mean time for university students to complete a bachelor's degree in my region is 6.5 years.

The College of St. Rose must be a super elite institution if they're cranking out graduates with a combined bachelor's and master's in 4 years.

Median? :-)
That's not even wrong!
--Wolfgang Pauli

TreadingLife

With the College's recent efforts pertaining to administrators and staff, a projected $15.8 million deficit has been reduced to $9.6 million. While those reductions were significant, a nearly $10 million structural deficit is not something the College can continue to carry

So this was a pre-COVID structural deficit? Yikes.

They are planning for a staggered in-person fall. If this doesn't come to fruition, their pain will only grow.

apl68

Quote from: Hibush on August 02, 2020, 06:40:04 PM
Quote from: selecter on August 02, 2020, 03:23:03 PM
Sorry. Paywall on that one. This one isn't as detailed ... but has the basics ...
https://www.news10.com/news/the-college-of-saint-rose-to-address-financial-issues/

The interim president is an alumna who has experience making an arts nonprofit organization financially sustainable. That is a positive sign in that she knows how to center on the mission and make the dreaded budget cuts in light of that.

I'm skeptical though about reviving the nursing program. Their one-time leadership in that discipline won't have momentum seven decades after they dropped it. They won't even have alumnae. Another thread here goes into the irrational expectation that administrators bring to new nursing programs.

Other posters have indicated that nursing programs are rather expensive to create and operate.  Even assuming that the start-up program was a success and eventually turned into a money maker, it would surely take a long-term investment to make a go of it.  A college that is already in dire financial straits isn't a good candidate for pulling it off.
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Aster

Quote... and the return of a nursing degree, in which Saint Rose was a leader before the program was discontinued in the 1950s.

Wow. That's reaaally reaching back in time.

spork

College of Saint Rose will be gone within five years. SUNY-Albany is less than three miles away, is 25% less expensive, and salaries after graduation are significantly higher.
It's terrible writing, used to obfuscate the fact that the authors actually have nothing to say.

secundem_artem

Back to Galloway for a second.

He rated Artem U as "struggling".

In the last few months, Artem U has cut pension contributions, furloughed staff, and had across the board salary cuts.  Last month, the first dean headed for the exits.

Galloway's math may be questionable, but his conclusion re: Artem U seems to be empirically correct.
Funeral by funeral, the academy advances

Hibush

Quote from: Aster on August 03, 2020, 11:45:16 AM
Quote... and the return of a nursing degree, in which Saint Rose was a leader before the program was discontinued in the 1950s.

Wow. That's reaaally reaching back in time.

Those laurels may have gotten too crinkly to rest on.

spork

Quote from: Hibush on August 03, 2020, 02:14:46 PM
Quote from: Aster on August 03, 2020, 11:45:16 AM
Quote... and the return of a nursing degree, in which Saint Rose was a leader before the program was discontinued in the 1950s.

Wow. That's reaaally reaching back in time.

Those laurels may have gotten too crinkly to rest on.

I don't know the specific history of College of Saint Rose, but many of these at-one-time-religiously-affiliated schools originated as "safe" places where women could receive training in the occupations that were available to them at the time -- teachers (i.e., the normal schools), nurses, and, from about the 1940s onward, secretaries. Not only are nursing programs expensive to operate and require meeting professional accreditation standards, the women who might have enrolled in them in 1949 now have many more career options.
It's terrible writing, used to obfuscate the fact that the authors actually have nothing to say.

spork

Unity College is moving to online-only instruction and will probably liquidate physical assets in an attempt to stay solvent:

https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2020/08/04/unity-college-end-campus-instruction.
It's terrible writing, used to obfuscate the fact that the authors actually have nothing to say.

apl68

Also from IHE, the University of Arizona has bought for-profit Ashford University:


https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/08/04/backlash-begins-against-university-arizonas-acquisition-ashford-university


A lot of anger being expressed over a public institution seeking to turn a predatory for-profit into a cash cow.
If in this life only we had hope of Christ, we would be the most pathetic of them all.  But now is Christ raised from the dead, the first of those who slept.  First Christ, then afterward those who belong to Christ when he comes.

Wahoo Redux

Quote from: apl68 on August 04, 2020, 10:12:52 AM
Also from IHE, the University of Arizona has bought for-profit Ashford University:


https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/08/04/backlash-begins-against-university-arizonas-acquisition-ashford-university


A lot of anger being expressed over a public institution seeking to turn a predatory for-profit into a cash cow.

Our colleges have to survive somehow. 
Come, fill the Cup, and in the fire of Spring
Your Winter-garment of Repentance fling:
The Bird of Time has but a little way
To flutter--and the Bird is on the Wing.