- Welcome to The Fora: A Higher Education Community.
Recent posts
#41
Research & Scholarship / Re: April Research Thread
Last post by Parasaurolophus - April 22, 2024, 08:58:32 AMInputting grades, then... just streamlining T1, and maybe making more headway on that referee report.
#42
Research & Scholarship / Re: April Research Thread
Last post by Parasaurolophus - April 22, 2024, 08:58:08 AMQuote from: Parasaurolophus on April 21, 2024, 08:57:19 AMOnly grading today. Ugh.
All done save for stragglers and inputting.
#43
The State of Higher Ed / Re: Protests and police on cam...
Last post by Langue_doc - April 22, 2024, 08:09:58 AMQuoteColumbia University to Hold Classes Remotely After Weekend Protests
The campus has been shaken by pro-Palestinian demonstrations that have left some Jewish students fearing for their safety.
QuoteFaculty Group at Columbia Says It Has 'Lost Confidence' in the President
The campus chapter of a faculty organization said it would "fight to reclaim our university." Students were undeterred by the crackdown on their protest.
#44
The State of Higher Ed / Re: Protests and police on cam...
Last post by marshwiggle - April 22, 2024, 07:57:41 AMQuote from: Hibush on April 22, 2024, 07:51:05 AMHaving clear rules for protest is critical. There has to be a good outlet for public engagement on campus, but with guardrails that prevent violence. The rules need to be unambiguous so that students (both protestors and protest-avoiders), administration and police (both campus and city) know what to expect and where the lines are.
We have to expect a certain amount of protest on campuses, so the various scenarios should have been worked out in regular table-top exercises with representatives of all those groups present. I think the latitude should be wide so that a lot of ideas can be expressed.
Having groups shouting at each other does not accomplish any communication or sharing of ideas, so that activity should be ended. But treating it as violence is inappropriate. Those situations must be treated differently.
Some of the students seem to be engaging in the time-honored protest ritual of staying put and chanting while getting arrested for trespassing (charges that will be dropped). That exercise has not been productive in the past, so I don't expect it to be at Yale or Columbia.
Any action that prevents normal, necessary activity from continuing until the protesters leave is extortion, and needs to be treated as such.
#45
The State of Higher Ed / Re: Protests and police on cam...
Last post by Hibush - April 22, 2024, 07:51:05 AMHaving clear rules for protest is critical. There has to be a good outlet for public engagement on campus, but with guardrails that prevent violence. The rules need to be unambiguous so that students (both protestors and protest-avoiders), administration and police (both campus and city) know what to expect and where the lines are.
We have to expect a certain amount of protest on campuses, so the various scenarios should have been worked out in regular table-top exercises with representatives of all those groups present. I think the latitude should be wide so that a lot of ideas can be expressed.
Having groups shouting at each other does not accomplish any communication or sharing of ideas, so that activity should be ended. But treating it as violence is inappropriate. Those situations must be treated differently.
Some of the students seem to be engaging in the time-honored protest ritual of staying put and chanting while getting arrested for trespassing (charges that will be dropped). That exercise has not been productive in the past, so I don't expect it to be at Yale or Columbia.
We have to expect a certain amount of protest on campuses, so the various scenarios should have been worked out in regular table-top exercises with representatives of all those groups present. I think the latitude should be wide so that a lot of ideas can be expressed.
Having groups shouting at each other does not accomplish any communication or sharing of ideas, so that activity should be ended. But treating it as violence is inappropriate. Those situations must be treated differently.
Some of the students seem to be engaging in the time-honored protest ritual of staying put and chanting while getting arrested for trespassing (charges that will be dropped). That exercise has not been productive in the past, so I don't expect it to be at Yale or Columbia.
#46
The State of Higher Ed / Re: Protests and police on cam...
Last post by Parasaurolophus - April 22, 2024, 07:43:15 AMDon't forget Columbia, where police in riot gear dragged students away from a sit-in, and the President has been suspending faculty for their speech.
#47
The State of Higher Ed / Re: Protests and police on cam...
Last post by apl68 - April 22, 2024, 07:25:26 AMHope the protestors don't burn some poor professor's research notes (or delete the prof's files) and then deny doing it, like happened to Orest Ranum in '68.
#48
General Discussion / Re: Random Thoughts Anew
Last post by apl68 - April 22, 2024, 07:20:48 AMLast week I somehow ran across the old legend that the Greek dramatist Sophocles was killed when an eagle, dropping a turtle in hopes of cracking it open to eat it, accidentally cracked Sophocles' noggin instead. He had recently decided to stay out under the open sky after an oracle had warned him that he would be killed by a falling house. Somebody recalled that a turtle's shell is technically a kind of house.... Just to add insult to injury, there was speculation that the eagle might have mistaken Sophocles' bald head for a rock.
Anyway, only a day or two later, I read in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette's daily "News of the Past" feature that in April 1924 somebody saw a chicken hawk in distress. A terrapin had grabbed its foot and hung onto it so that it couldn't take off. Maybe the terrapin had heard about the turtle-dropping eagles and was seeking revenge? Well, classical education was more widespread in the 1920s.
Anyway, only a day or two later, I read in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette's daily "News of the Past" feature that in April 1924 somebody saw a chicken hawk in distress. A terrapin had grabbed its foot and hung onto it so that it couldn't take off. Maybe the terrapin had heard about the turtle-dropping eagles and was seeking revenge? Well, classical education was more widespread in the 1920s.
#49
The State of Higher Ed / Re: Protests and police on cam...
Last post by marshwiggle - April 22, 2024, 07:07:17 AMThe sad part is there are probably a lot of hypocritical faculty who expressed public support for the protests, but are secretly glad for the police coming in and dealing with them. Their actions make everyone else's life more difficult.
#50
General Discussion / Re: The Post For Stuff You Wan...
Last post by Langue_doc - April 22, 2024, 07:05:01 AMI got an email from presidentdonaldtrump--that was the first part of the email account of the sender; the sender's name was capital P, capital D, and capital T. I think the subject line was about the upcoming trial, but other than that, have no idea of what the so-called president had to say as I promptly deleted that email.
I suspect that traffic's going to be snarled near the court area.
I suspect that traffic's going to be snarled near the court area.