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Another Seuss Cancellation Thread (Summer 2023)

Started by Parasaurolophus, June 21, 2023, 03:01:13 PM

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Wahoo Redux

Quote from: marshwiggle on February 22, 2024, 01:09:30 PM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on February 21, 2024, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: marshwiggle on February 21, 2024, 04:10:44 PMMaybe eventually both sides will agree to quit the madness.

Maybe you should lead the way, Marshbug.  Think you can quit the madness?

Do you have any examples of me suggesting speech should be filtered because it might offend someone?


How would you feel about a drag queen giving a book reading in a public library?
Come, fill the Cup, and in the fire of Spring
Your Winter-garment of Repentance fling:
The Bird of Time has but a little way
To flutter--and the Bird is on the Wing.

marshwiggle

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Quote from: Wahoo Redux on February 22, 2024, 03:14:16 PM
Quote from: marshwiggle on February 22, 2024, 01:09:30 PM
Quote from: Wahoo Redux on February 21, 2024, 04:46:16 PM
Quote from: marshwiggle on February 21, 2024, 04:10:44 PMMaybe eventually both sides will agree to quit the madness.

Maybe you should lead the way, Marshbug.  Think you can quit the madness?

Do you have any examples of me suggesting speech should be filtered because it might offend someone?


How would you feel about a drag queen giving a book reading in a public library?

About the same as a display in the middle of the library explaining why the "special operation" by Russia in Ukraine is necessary.

Either of those, if they were in a separate space in the library, that people can choose to enter or not, wouldn't be a big deal. The issue isn't the speech itself, it's whether people in a public space, have to be exposed to it. If the children's section of the library has someone reading a book out loud, then anyone looking for books with their kids is exposed to it, whether they want to be or not. In a public space, like a library, there should be a minimum of political or ideological messaging that has the implied endorsement of the government. (Political candidates shouldn't be campaigning in those spaces either, for that reason.)

Public institutions should be relatively anodyne in their image, so that they don't take sides on any conflict of the moment. (In a library, especially, the one message should be that this is a place where people can have their thoughts which may not be popular. People treating each other with respect despite these differences is what matters in a diverse society.)

 ETA: How about "private militia story time"? In a state with open-carry laws, how would you feel about someone in a library reading children's books while being visibly armed? If the weapons were unloaded, would that make it obviously OK?
It takes so little to be above average.

Wahoo Redux

#227
Quote from: marshwiggle on Today at 05:59:40 AMEither of those, if they were in a separate space in the library, that people can choose to enter or not, wouldn't be a big deal. The issue isn't the speech itself, it's whether people in a public space, have to be exposed to it. If the children's section of the library has someone reading a book out loud, then anyone looking for books with their kids is exposed to it, whether they want to be or not. In a public space, like a library, there should be a minimum of political or ideological messaging that has the implied endorsement of the government. (Political candidates shouldn't be campaigning in those spaces either, for that reason.)

Public institutions should be relatively anodyne in their image, so that they don't take sides on any conflict of the moment. (In a library, especially, the one message should be that this is a place where people can have their thoughts which may not be popular. People treating each other with respect despite these differences is what matters in a diverse society.)

 ETA: How about "private militia story time"? In a state with open-carry laws, how would you feel about someone in a library reading children's books while being visibly armed? If the weapons were unloaded, would that make it obviously OK?


Riiiiiiiight, let's just keep all those bad people with their wrongthink hidden from view because someone might get offended if they are accidentally exposed to something they disagree with.  Keep'em in the shadows----Christ would agree.

That's not bigoted or censorious. 

Nor is it hypocritical in the light of recent comments.

Like this little cherry:
QuotePeople treating each other with respect despite these differences is what matters in a diverse society
Which is exactly to the point what you are not doing.

You seem to want "Respect" only when it applies to you.

I know that Christians hate it when non-Christians quote the Bible back to them, it's understandable, but the beam in your eye, buddy, whenever you talk about "progressives" being "offended" is bulging from your tear ducts. 

I don't have a problem with people being visibly armed if the building code allows it. Cops carry guns wherever they go. Cops love little kids.  But again, Marshy, think of your analogy.  A gun is a lethal weapon.  Gun violence is an epidemic in our culture.  Not the same as a book reading.  Not the same thing at all.

Critical thinking: humanities 101.
Come, fill the Cup, and in the fire of Spring
Your Winter-garment of Repentance fling:
The Bird of Time has but a little way
To flutter--and the Bird is on the Wing.