Are you ready to Spring Forward?
Will you remember, or are your devices all set/programmed to adjust automatically?
Any thoughts on Daylight Saving Time?
Are you fer it or again it?
I'm never ready to go to Daylight Savings Time. It's nothing more than state sponsored harassment.
The stuff was invented during World War I and used again during World war II. Last time I looked, these wars were over.
Definitely against it. I lived briefly in a State that did not invoke it. It was fantastic!
Thank you!
There is so much pandemic and politics in my feeds that I would have forgotten this.
I wish we were on Daylight ST all year around.
Thanks for the reminder!
(Blame Ben Franklin if you don't like it.)
M.
Aw crap. I needed that hour.
We'll get it back in a many months, but without interest. :-(
For! Where I live should, by the sun, be an hour ahead of the time zone we are in, so we will just be returning to our rightful time, and I want that evening light.
Aw, I see there are different opinions. Let's have a free market solution, no not everybody chooses his own time, but everybody chooses when to get up! :-)
Quote from: dismalist on March 06, 2020, 08:52:00 PM
everybody chooses when to get up! :-)
I, for one, am happy to reset to get up at a reasonable time based on when I need to interact with other humans instead of way too early so I'm fading fast for the last few hours of the work day.
Moving around the far-too-few hours of sunlight in the winter is much less optimal than having more sun all around. There's a reason I'm living much farther south than I was raised.
If you lived in Antarctica you could agree to set your clock two weeks ahead. Then back again in October.
I despise time-changing and wish we--and every country--would abolish it. It's pointless and has been shown to cause physical stress in addition to mental and emotional stress. Standard time and the gradual movement of light is just fine.
As usual, no one with power cares what I think.
I posted a floral-themed sign (snagged from Google images) about Daylight Savings in our library staff office earlier this week. I'm not a fan of the hour ahead in spring.
Daylight Savings Time 2020 ends November 1st.
Praise the Lord that it ends, even if only temporarily.
I'm up and it's a reasonable time. Even Blocky just got himself up at a reasonable time.
I slept in til 11! When I saw the time, I though OMG I didnt think that I slept in THAT late! (My allergies are intermittent, so I couldnt get to sleep early last night)
Lunch was after 2 pm, so Im not sure that I will have dinner at a 'reasonable time' as it is nearly 6 pm already!
Im glad that I have Spring Break to get used to this new time!
I slept in until ca. 3 PM! I can't go on like this ... .
*Bump*
Change clocks for spring daylight savings this weekend!
Oh, mercy, I forgot -- a freudian slip.
Daylight Saving Time was instituted in World War I, to save energy and such. I believe that war ended in 1918. Didn't everybody get the memo?
Quote from: dismalist on March 06, 2020, 12:12:40 PM
I'm never ready to go to Daylight Savings Time. It's nothing more than state sponsored harassment.
The stuff was invented during World War I and used again during World war II. Last time I looked, these wars were over.
I was about to post that you are still paying a telephone tax from the Spanish American War but I fact checked and found out that the tax ended in 2006.
Quote from: Anselm on March 12, 2022, 11:57:02 AM
Quote from: dismalist on March 06, 2020, 12:12:40 PM
I'm never ready to go to Daylight Savings Time. It's nothing more than state sponsored harassment.
The stuff was invented during World War I and used again during World war II. Last time I looked, these wars were over.
I was about to post that you are still paying a telephone tax from the Spanish American War but I fact checked and found out that the tax ended in 2006.
This http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/ArtWeb/557559440437EDBC8525718B005ACCCB?OpenDocument (http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/ArtWeb/557559440437EDBC8525718B005ACCCB?OpenDocument) turned up on googling.
Fascinating!
You do realize that most time pieces we use are on computational devices that self-adjust, right?
I have one watch (more, but I don't need to adjust the ones I am not wearing), and a car clock that need to be adjusted.
Quote from: Ruralguy on March 12, 2022, 12:40:00 PM
You do realize that most time pieces we use are on computational devices that self-adjust, right?
I have one watch (more, but I don't need to adjust the ones I am not wearing), and a car clock that need to be adjusted.
I have several clocks that I need to manually adjust. I also have one that automatically adjusts, but that I purchased before DST dates were changed (by Bush, I think). It aggravates me four times a year: twice when it doesn't adjust but should, twice when it does adjust but shouldn't. GRRR.
DST is stupid. There's no extra time. It's just an agreement among us all that we'll get up earlier or later. Whatever. I lived in Arizona for a while where nobody wants an extra hour of daylight in the summer, and it was great.
Saw a headline that read "Whitehouse-sponsored bill would make daylight saving time permanent".
https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/local/2022/03/12/sen-sheldon-whitehouse-sponsoring-bill-sunshine-protection-act-make-daylight-saving-time-permanent/7016412001/ (https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/local/2022/03/12/sen-sheldon-whitehouse-sponsoring-bill-sunshine-protection-act-make-daylight-saving-time-permanent/7016412001/)
Little did I realize that Whitehouse is not White House.
Look, make high noon any time you want, say when it's dark, but please don't be changing it all the time.
Thank you.
I'd be good with not changing the clocks if we can do it by making DST permanent. In December here it gets dark at 4:15, which is just demoralizing. Really, the time zones are just too wide.
The problem with permanent DST for much of Canada is the winter mornings. Permanent standard time works better for us.
Quote from: Puget on March 13, 2022, 07:17:29 AM
I'd be good with not changing the clocks if we can do it by making DST permanent. In December here it gets dark at 4:15, which is just demoralizing. Really, the time zones are just too wide.
Quote from: Morden on March 13, 2022, 09:39:55 AM
The problem with permanent DST for much of Canada is the winter mornings. Permanent standard time works better for us.
The time zones are not too wide, then, they're too long [pole-to-pole]! :-)
I lived in a northern European city for a while. It was the Summer evenings which drove me crazy. It hardly got dark. And at 2 AM the birds would start chirping, waking one.
All I know is my dogs are happy to eat an hour earlier.
Maybe there's a lesson to be learned there. Or maybe they are just two dopey dogs. Hard to tell sometimes.
Standard, Daylight Savings, I don't care, just stop changing it.
(I personally prefer Standard, only because I don't like dark mornings)
No real problem getting up for church an hour earlier on Sunday. Now having to adjust to getting out an hour earlier for my early morning walk. I had been getting up for it just after six. Now I in effect am getting up a little after five, well before first light. Or will be, once I get used to it. This morning I was up about 6:40. I hope to be getting up half an hour or so earlier by Friday.
At some point's I've just gotten up 10 min. earlier each day the week before, or for two days at a time for two weeks before.
I meant to mention that as a helpful approach earlier, but forgot.
Maybe I fell asleep earlier the night I meant to do so...
;--}
M.
The US Senate approved by voice vote a bill to have year-round daylight saving time.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/ (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/)
The House is thimking about it.
Some reasons given are good, but downplayed in the article. There are only a few extra dead in car crashes on account of daylight saving time. What's a life worth?
Others are trivial: "The change would help enable children to play outdoors later and reduce seasonal depression, according to supporters." If it's that important, why wasn't it done in 1919?
Alas, in spite of the rhetoric, I will enjoy the last change or non-change.
Let the corporations trade time, air and water.
The market will solve any problems. Down with big government.
:)
Quote from: downer on March 15, 2022, 05:03:43 PM
Let the corporations trade time, air and water.
The market will solve any problems. Down with big government.
:)
Absolutely! The market would reward those with riches who coordinate on the same time. The problem is
which time.
Ages ago, none other than Milton Friedman explained his propagation of flexible exchange rates, then anathema, between currencies as having all the advantages of Daylight Saving Time!
Already when I first read that, as a yute [My Cousin Vinny], I thought, hell, Prof. Friedman, you're going too far.
If it were up to me, we could each determine our own time! :-)
That's not too stupid. On another thread I described how Italians don't really coordinate on any time, unless they want to.
*Thread bump*
It's a change of the clock this weekend! Falling back an hour.
Ah, falling back to normalcy. Been waiting for this since March. I get my hour back, but the buggers don't pay interest.
Happy End-of-Daylight-Saving-Time!
DST and clock changes seem to have outlived their usefulness. I vote for DST all year round.
Quote from: kaysixteen on November 04, 2022, 10:12:00 PM
DST and clock changes seem to have outlived their usefulness. I vote for DST all year round.
Same. I'm tired of 'losing' an hour in the spring.
I've been looking forward to the extra sleep-in hour, but am not too sure about the early sunsets.
My after-work walking group will now have a limited number of places that are reasonably safe (street crossings at night here are really dangerous, though one member bought a school crossing guard safety vest on Amazon.). Plus driving home in the dark is just sad.
Im giving a test on Monday. Hopefully, the added hour will be used wisely (to sleep), but I suspect that as the extra hour occurs tonight, it wont change any of their cramming habits!
Saturday I got back from a week-long vacation. Though I hadn't been putting in late nights, I did do an awful lot of walking, hiking, and driving, and had to get up early on Sunday. It was a perfect time to gain an additional hour overnight! It was also good to get up for my morning walk and it not be before dawn.
I haven't felt so good since March!
Change of the clock this weekend! Going forward an hour.
Mercy, why must I be reminded? No problem is so big that it can't be run away from.
Daylight Saving Time may never end from this year. That's not the optimum but it would be an improvement.
If not, DST ends November 5 this year. Am counting the days.
The last time DST was extended the reason given was so the kiddies could go trick-or-treating in the light. My alternative would have been to move Halloween into July. Plenty of light then, with or without DST.
Oh. It's always a surprise.
I just arrived in Belgium for a conference and I fly home Sunday. Since Belgium doesn't change until later in March, there is a 6 hour change coming but only a 5 hour change going home-- so I guess that's a win?
We will be able to do after-work walks without headlamps!
Two weeks to go before normalcy.
QuoteTwo weeks to go before normalcy.
Lately, I have no clue what 'normalcy' even remotely resembles!!
You've remind me to post a sign for my colleagues at the library. (There's plenty of Fall Daylight Saving pix on Google Images) Thanks! :)
Here's a fascinating report on the status of legislation concerning Daylight Saving Time from NPR
Politics of Daylight Saving Time (https://www.npr.org/2023/11/02/1210212060/daylight-saving-time-states-2023)
fascinating because people seem to have very different views on the utility to them of Daylight Saving Time, and of course politicians will not commit under such circumstances.
One argument for Daylight Saving Time cited in the article is that it enhances aggregate spending. This could only be true for a small slice of retail, but rest assured, if there were really a demand deficit on account of abolishing Daylight Saving Time, I could make it up if the government gave me lots of money. :-)
An argument against Daylight Saving Time, also cited, is by the medical establishment. They're right about this one.
Anyway, it's not going away permanently soon.
Starting tomorrow morning, a coupla' months of peace.
Falling back is fine, it's the springing forward that I don't like.
Not at all OK with the 4:30 sunset.
In
Quote from: Puget on November 05, 2023, 06:06:17 AMNot at all OK with the 4:30 sunset.
I kinda love it. Also a big fan of it being light enough to walk my dog before I leave for work.
My dog says eating an hour later than her stomach clock dictates is some serious bull$hit.
I appreciated the extra hour of sleep! :)
I changed clocks back before bedtime last night.
I'm not sure how, since surely the device she was emailing from had updated automatically, but I had a student email today in a panic that she had over-slept and was really late for class, when in fact class didn't start for half an hour yet. Better than the spring version!
Saturday I was returning from vacation out of state and drove about 650 miles. Then I had to wash clothing, go get groceries, and make sure the house was okay. I was glad to have that new hour that evening! And I still needed a two-hour nap after church.
I suppose I'd be better off living on Svalbard in and after approaching winters
and in Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego in and after approaching summers
It'd be just dark!
Quote from: dismalist on November 02, 2023, 10:39:39 PMHere's a fascinating report on the status of legislation concerning Daylight Saving Time from NPR
Politics of Daylight Saving Time (https://www.npr.org/2023/11/02/1210212060/daylight-saving-time-states-2023)
fascinating because people seem to have very different views on the utility to them of Daylight Saving Time, and of course politicians will not commit under such circumstances.
One argument for Daylight Saving Time cited in the article is that it enhances aggregate spending. This could only be true for a small slice of retail, but rest assured, if there were really a demand deficit on account of abolishing Daylight Saving Time, I could make it up if the government gave me lots of money. :-)
An argument against Daylight Saving Time, also cited, is by the medical establishment. They're right about this one.
Anyway, it's not going away permanently soon.
I wish they would just do away with it.
The irony for me is that they often say it is done for farmers etc, yet Saskatchewan, one of our farmers provinces doesn't do it. If they can manage, I don't see why we need to do this dance twice a year.
As a parent of small children, the process is a nightmare...
My cats did NOT appreciate the lateness of their meals.
Quote from: the_geneticist on November 07, 2023, 11:54:42 AMMy cats did NOT appreciate the lateness of their meals.
They never do. Ours were similarly disgruntled.
*Bump*
Spring Daylight Savings weekend! Change your clocks an hour forward.
I posted a floral theme reminder (found on Google Images) sign on our staff kitchen door.
I read somewhere that today the sun rose an hour early. Is that how DST works?
Took my early morning walk at six (really five) with the stars still out. Made it hard to spot birds around the pond at the city park this morning. I went ahead and got my watch changed to the correct time, instead of spending a week or two mentally adjusting the time before finally getting around to it. The "spring forward" is not easy for us early risers to adjust to.
I am still over-tired 2 days later...let's just pick a time and keep it that way!
Contrary to all the DST haters, I am entirely delighted to have light after work again! It means I can actually fit in a run or walk after work during the week again, or do some yard work.
I woke up at 6:45 am to take my usual morning walk before going to work. It felt weird seeing it was still dark!