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Title: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Sodium on November 21, 2019, 10:31:09 AM
Hi All,
Any suggestion for cheap and best (or reasonable) Carribean destinations and resorts for travel with kids? I am considering US VI, Puerto Rico. I am ok with foreign destinations if its worth it. Planning to travel around end of Feb./Beginning of March. Thanks.
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 21, 2019, 02:20:12 PM
Costa Rica? Cayman Islands? Bahamas? Bermuda?

I've heard great things about Costa Rica, and would find it tempting despite having no desire to do that sort of thing. I've been to the Cayman Islands. It was OK (but expensive).
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: spork on November 21, 2019, 02:37:04 PM
I'll preface this by saying I'm married to someone not originally from the USA and my travel is pretty much the opposite of a Thomas Cook package tour. Usually we stay in AirBnB properties.

Forget Martinique. Was not impressed and it's very expensive -- the currency is the Euro.

Been to Las Terrenas on the DR's Samana Peninsula twice, liked it. Nice beach, especially on the western side (Playa Las Ballenas, and Playa Bonita). This was when Jet Blue flew to El Catey so it was very convenient.

Several years ago I was on Isla Mujeres, which is a short ferry ride from Cancun. Nice beach at the northern end of the island; that's where you would want to stay. The Caribbean side has no beach.

I have friends with connections to Haiti and would love to get there but haven't had the chance yet.

I'll be able to report on another Caribbean destination during the winter holidays.
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: clean on November 22, 2019, 05:01:09 PM
My first thought was a cruise.  A quick check of Princess Cruises (not the boozy line like Carnival) shows a round trip from Ft. lauderdale is about $600 per adult and $300 for passenger 3 and 4.  In addition to the cruise entertainment and pools, it goes to the 'princess island' in the Bahamas, and St. Thomas and St Maartin. 
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: mamselle on November 23, 2019, 07:33:27 AM
Do a theme tour for yourselves.

Read Tuchman's "The First Salute" and then craft a visit to the Leeward Islands (and others) named in her book, including St. Eustis, where the American flag was first acknowledged by a Dutch fort.

M.

Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Anselm on November 23, 2019, 02:34:30 PM
I've never gone anywhere in the Caribbean but how about Cuba?
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: clean on November 23, 2019, 06:46:10 PM
I think that Cuba is again illegal to visit for US citizens. 
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: ab_grp on November 25, 2019, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: clean on November 22, 2019, 05:01:09 PM
My first thought was a cruise.  A quick check of Princess Cruises (not the boozy line like Carnival) shows a round trip from Ft. lauderdale is about $600 per adult and $300 for passenger 3 and 4.  In addition to the cruise entertainment and pools, it goes to the 'princess island' in the Bahamas, and St. Thomas and St Maartin.

[Questions for OP] How old are your kids (sorry if I missed that info)? What kinds of activities do they like to do? Is hanging around on the beach their idea of a good time, or do they like to hike, etc.?

I was going to suggest a cruise as well.  I took my mother and daughter (around 9yo at the time) on a 4 day/3 night (I think) Royal Caribbean cruise from Ft. Lauderdale that stopped in Cancun and Key West.  My daughter loved the programs they had for kids.   At one point, they took over the ship as pirates.  They had a great time, and she met lots of friends.  They also put on an amusing talent show.  I think cruises are nice because they can give you a lot of different opportunities all within easy reach.  Of course we went to the pool, she loved the dessert bars and ice cream party, we went to some fun shows in the theater, there was a casino and shuffleboard and lots of other things to do.  She actually didn't want to get off the ship in Mexico because she was having so much fun on board.  If you are looking more for spending time on shore, you may want to look at a different type of vacation.   There are some fun excursions available for cruises though, usually.  Longer cruises mean more days at sea, so more activities needed on the ship, but 3-4 days is pretty good.  Depending where you live, you may be able to find a cruise that sets out of a reasonably nearby port rather than having to fly somewhere.  Daughter loved that cruise so much.  She left her kids club hat at the Ft. Lauderdale airport on the way out and was so sad about it.  We tried to obtain another, to no avail.  There was a lot of push for shopping in the ports and on the ship, but they'd give coupons for free rum punches or tequila (which the adults enjoyed) and little gems and trinkets (which daughter enjoyed). 

I have also been to St. John and Anguilla without kids.  St. John has a couple hundred (?) beaches on a pretty small island.  I don't know what there might be to do for kids there, but if you like to do a little hiking and explore a lot of different types of beaches and play in some beautiful water, that might be good.  My friends have taken their kids and had a good time.  We flew to St. Thomas and took a ferry over.  Anguilla is a little different, and I didn't see a lot of kids there, but it is a lovely place. 
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: secundem_artem on November 25, 2019, 12:19:28 PM
Quote from: mamselle on November 23, 2019, 07:33:27 AM
Do a theme tour for yourselves.

Read Tuchman's "The First Salute" and then craft a visit to the Leeward Islands (and others) named in her book, including St. Eustis, where the American flag was first acknowledged by a Dutch fort.

M.

That's not a vacation, that's a homework assignment.

My suggestion is Belize.  A 2 hr flight out of Houston or Miami, English speaking country, quite safe by Central American standards, moderately priced, terrific fishing.
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: mamselle on November 25, 2019, 01:06:04 PM
Quote from: secundem_artem on November 25, 2019, 12:19:28 PM
Quote from: mamselle on November 23, 2019, 07:33:27 AM
Do a theme tour for yourselves.

Read Tuchman's "The First Salute" and then craft a visit to the Leeward Islands (and others) named in her book, including St. Eustis, where the American flag was first acknowledged by a Dutch fort.

M.

That's not a vacation, that's a homework assignment.

Well, yeah, ok, maybe....but how is that a problem?

Maybe we underestimate kids, or maybe I was always a historian at heart, but our family's Sunday afternoon outings to historical spots all over the state--picnic lunch at the site and dinner "out" on the way home--still ring in my memory (singing "Boom-de-ah-dah" and "Tell my Why?" in parts en route in a warm car, the four of us kids snuggled up like puppies in the back seat).

The Tuchmann narrative includes privateer/pirate ships, revolutions in Holland, American navy shipbuilding, and dramatic escapes--what's a kid not to like?

Besides, it provides great fodder for "What I did on my vacation" stories and is much less booo-orr-rring than lying around a beach or boat deck by the pool all day and eating weird seafood at night (which is all kids will get from a cruise or getaway seaside holiday).

I'd be reading bits of the Tuchmann book to them the month before, showing them websites and brochures with the actual places named, and maybe getting them to focus on one or two particular people and put themselves in their places--even act out some of the more dramatic bits, before they go.

One of my music students' families have actually hired me to do 2-3 short session art and architecture "fun prep" series for their kids before going to Paris, Florence, WDC, and Madrid.

I think they decided they were getting their money's worth when the then-five-tyear-old piped up, on seeing the Duomo in Florence, "Look, Dad! Brunelleschi put chains around that dome, to keep it from falling down!"

(The book "Buildings that wiggle like a fish" was involved in that one).

But maybe that's just me...

M.
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Kron3007 on November 25, 2019, 01:32:50 PM
Quote from: mamselle on November 25, 2019, 01:06:04 PM
Quote from: secundem_artem on November 25, 2019, 12:19:28 PM
Quote from: mamselle on November 23, 2019, 07:33:27 AM
Do a theme tour for yourselves.

Read Tuchman's "The First Salute" and then craft a visit to the Leeward Islands (and others) named in her book, including St. Eustis, where the American flag was first acknowledged by a Dutch fort.

M.

That's not a vacation, that's a homework assignment.

Well, yeah, ok, maybe....but how is that a problem?

Maybe we underestimate kids, or maybe I was always a historian at heart, but our family's Sunday afternoon outings to historical spots all over the state--picnic lunch at the site and dinner "out" on the way home--still ring in my memory (singing "Boom-de-ah-dah" and "Tell my Why?" in parts en route in a warm car, the four of us kids snuggled up like puppies in the back seat).

The Tuchmann narrative includes privateer/pirate ships, revolutions in Holland, American navy shipbuilding, and dramatic escapes--what's a kid not to like?

Besides, it provides great fodder for "What I did on my vacation" stories and is much less booo-orr-rring than lying around a beach or boat deck by the pool all day and eating weird seafood at night (which is all kids will get from a cruise or getaway seaside holiday).

I'd be reading bits of the Tuchmann book to them the month before, showing them websites and brochures with the actual places named, and maybe getting them to focus on one or two particular people and put themselves in their places--even act out some of the more dramatic bits, before they go.

One of my music students' families have actually hired me to do 2-3 short session art and architecture "fun prep" series for their kids before going to Paris, Florence, WDC, and Madrid.

I think they decided they were getting their money's worth when the then-five-tyear-old piped up, on seeing the Duomo in Florence, "Look, Dad! Brunelleschi put chains around that dome, to keep it from falling down!"

(The book "Buildings that wiggle like a fish" was involved in that one).

But maybe that's just me...

M.

It's all about perspective I suppose. 

Perhaps I was always a biologist, because my memories of "lying around on a beach" are full of finding sea shells, catching hermit crabs, chasing lizards, opening/eating coconuts, snorkeling with tropical fish, etc.  I remember visiting giant caves, the everglades, and that type of thing much more than the historical sites that we visited (boring...).  I would generally much prefer nature to historical sites, but it is nice to have both.  This is one reason I disagree with the cruise suggestion.  You end up on a cramped boat that drops you off in a port with too little time to actually see any of the awesome places you are "visiting".  I would much rather visit on land and be able to actually see some of the place.   

I am also looking to bring my family on a similar trip this year.  We have considered Cuba because it is among the cheapest and is very safe, but I have gotten food related illnesses 2/3 times I have visited and their standards are a little lower than some places (a five star resort there would not really be a five star in some other areas).  We are kind of leaning toward Mexico or the Dominican for now, but if my kids were a little older I would also consider Costa Rica for something a little more adventurous.  I love Costa Rica, but with little kids, we are really looking for a more all inclusive, lazy holiday and I dont think Costa Rica is the best for this (or at least not in my budget).       
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: ab_grp on November 25, 2019, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: mamselle on November 25, 2019, 01:06:04 PM
Besides, it provides great fodder for "What I did on my vacation" stories and is much less booo-orr-rring than lying around a beach or boat deck by the pool all day and eating weird seafood at night (which is all kids will get from a cruise or getaway seaside holiday).

I have to disagree.  Sure, there are lots of historical, informative trips that one can take.  And, lots of kids enjoy them! But that did not seem to be the focus of OP's request (apologies if I misread).  It seems to me that the request is more for a seaside holiday, something fun, relaxing, inexpensive.  There are plenty of historical areas and tours in the Caribbean, so one can do some of each if desired.  But cruises are not just blah, either.  We also took daughter (then age 12) on a Baltic cruise that included plenty of history, architecture, and culture along with the shuffleboard and weird foods.  The cruising mode of travel might be one that is enjoyable or not to a particular individual, but there's no reason for a cruise not to be educational.  Obviously, you have to take into account the kids who will be traveling.  My general approach is to keep things as flexible as possible, enough opportunities to try this or that, and try to make it enjoyable.  It is a vacation! Nothing wrong with lying around on a beach or in a deck chair now and again.  I do see where you're coming from, but I think this statement is a bit general and inaccurate. 

Let me also just add after Kron2007's post that it's true that it's not easy to get a bulk of time for exploring individual areas while on a cruise.  But what is nice is that it lets you have a little taste of this place or that, and if you want to plan a longer and more focused trip there in the future, great.  The ports aren't always the best, though some are better than others! And, again, a lot of excursions are pretty well designed to get you off doing something interesting and fun elsewhere and back to the ship.

I don't mean to be a cruise apologist, and I do not work for a cruise company.  :-)
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Hibush on November 25, 2019, 02:24:03 PM
Puerto Rico would appreciate your visit in order to help with hurricane recovery. The tourists sites were repaired first, so it is easy to be a visitor. Prices are fairly normal American in tourist areas; not as pricey as some of the trendy islands. The flight is domestic. Both nature and culture abound.
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Kron3007 on November 25, 2019, 03:15:10 PM
Quote from: ab_grp on November 25, 2019, 01:36:53 PM
Quote from: mamselle on November 25, 2019, 01:06:04 PM
Besides, it provides great fodder for "What I did on my vacation" stories and is much less booo-orr-rring than lying around a beach or boat deck by the pool all day and eating weird seafood at night (which is all kids will get from a cruise or getaway seaside holiday).

I have to disagree.  Sure, there are lots of historical, informative trips that one can take.  And, lots of kids enjoy them! But that did not seem to be the focus of OP's request (apologies if I misread).  It seems to me that the request is more for a seaside holiday, something fun, relaxing, inexpensive.  There are plenty of historical areas and tours in the Caribbean, so one can do some of each if desired.  But cruises are not just blah, either.  We also took daughter (then age 12) on a Baltic cruise that included plenty of history, architecture, and culture along with the shuffleboard and weird foods.  The cruising mode of travel might be one that is enjoyable or not to a particular individual, but there's no reason for a cruise not to be educational.  Obviously, you have to take into account the kids who will be traveling.  My general approach is to keep things as flexible as possible, enough opportunities to try this or that, and try to make it enjoyable.  It is a vacation! Nothing wrong with lying around on a beach or in a deck chair now and again.  I do see where you're coming from, but I think this statement is a bit general and inaccurate. 

Let me also just add after Kron2007's post that it's true that it's not easy to get a bulk of time for exploring individual areas while on a cruise.  But what is nice is that it lets you have a little taste of this place or that, and if you want to plan a longer and more focused trip there in the future, great.  The ports aren't always the best, though some are better than others! And, again, a lot of excursions are pretty well designed to get you off doing something interesting and fun elsewhere and back to the ship.

I don't mean to be a cruise apologist, and I do not work for a cruise company.  :-)

I have only been on one cruise, but I just felt like we were all being herded like sheep getting off the boat into the port where all the excursion wolves are waiting.  Since you only have a very brief time and the ports are generally not near much of note, you have no choice but to do the excursions.  These are not cheap and of very mixed quality.  I can see the appeal and am sure it suites some people, but they are not really for me (although I could see going on one and enjoying it with my lowered expectations). 

Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: spork on November 25, 2019, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: Kron3007 on November 25, 2019, 01:32:50 PM

[. . . ]

We are kind of leaning toward Mexico or the Dominican for now, but if my kids were a little older I would also consider Costa Rica for something a little more adventurous.  I love Costa Rica, but with little kids, we are really looking for a more all inclusive, lazy holiday and I dont think Costa Rica is the best for this (or at least not in my budget).     

As mentioned by Hibush, Puerto Rico is worth investigating, especially on the basis of cost. For anything other than a walled all-inclusive resort with the breakfast buffet of sausage, spaghetti, and toast, I would classify Costa Rica as less "adventurous" than Mexico or the DR. As for all-inclusive resorts themselves, it doesn't matter which country they're in. They are like international airport terminals.
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: clean on November 25, 2019, 05:56:27 PM
QuoteI have only been on one cruise, but I just felt like we were all being herded like sheep getting off the boat into the port where all the excursion wolves are waiting.

I have been on several cruises with Princess now, mostly short duration.  I understand the feeling a first timer might be left with.  Many of the ship board activities are actually infomercials for their products or services.  Many of the ports have excursions and there is often a rush to get off the ship to take them.

QuoteThere was a lot of push for shopping in the ports and on the ship, but they'd give coupons for free rum punches or tequila (which the adults enjoyed) and little gems and trinkets (which daughter enjoyed).
I dont particularly drink,  and the coupons for inland rum and tequila are likely enticements to buy more for home, and are lost on me. 

I might suggest, especially with the newer and bigger 'floating resort' ships that are out there now that you might enjoy the ship even more by skipping the excursions and staying on board! The lines on port days for the huge slides or bumper cars or whatever these newest, biggest ships have to offer are shortest while in port!!   
My parents (not water slide fans, mind you), have been more and more reluctant to visit the ports of call and much more likely to dip in the ship hot tubs or take advantage of some other ship board activity on the ship rather than venture off on a tour. 

I often travel (usually to Alaska) with my PhD school office mate (he is now retired).  We will make our way to town and either take a cab to where we want to go, or make our own arrangements.  We can see what is not on the tours and usually spend a fraction IF at all to do it!    Once we walked to a fish hatchery that was not yet open (it was too early for the salmon run), but as the hatchery was expecting a class of students, they let us join in that tour!!  Other times we have walked to  a local museum, or to the tourist information center run by the town (not the cruise lines) and found great deals and things not on the ship tour systems. 

however, we never (almost never anyway) eat while off the ship. Too much good food already paid for than to pay tourist prices to taste and get a picture eating a crab (which could be almost $100 a person for 'the experience' ... and in May the King Crab is NOT 'fresh from the docks!)

The point is, You dont have to get off the ship (especially the mega sized ones with the multi deck water parks) to have a great time!  Ive traveled with my Tween age niece (12-15) and she was always eager to ditch her parents and other geezers to  get back to the Tween Zone to play with her new best friends!  She was gone AND entertained most of the trip!  My brother would go to the first comedy show to ensure that it was kid friendly, but he always stayed and saw the next show !  The comedy shows, especially, are usually influenced by the audience so they are different enough each time to not be repeats and they are always (in my experience anyway) kid friendly and usually not politically decisive!! 
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: mamselle on November 25, 2019, 09:36:10 PM
A chacun son gout, then, but...then why not just find a cruise ship in dry dock and live on it for a week?

I get the feeling of the "Accidental Tourist," never touching shore, never engaging with others, it feels very insular.

I like the idea of getting out and walking about on your own, and visiting places and so on--that part makes sense to me. 

But along with the number of ships capsizing, getting major illnesses on board, having squally weather turn into hurricanes, etc.....I've just never seen the point.

I hope the OP finds what will work best for them.

M.
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Kron3007 on November 26, 2019, 06:13:03 AM
Quote from: spork on November 25, 2019, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: Kron3007 on November 25, 2019, 01:32:50 PM

[. . . ]

We are kind of leaning toward Mexico or the Dominican for now, but if my kids were a little older I would also consider Costa Rica for something a little more adventurous.  I love Costa Rica, but with little kids, we are really looking for a more all inclusive, lazy holiday and I dont think Costa Rica is the best for this (or at least not in my budget).     

As mentioned by Hibush, Puerto Rico is worth investigating, especially on the basis of cost. For anything other than a walled all-inclusive resort with the breakfast buffet of sausage, spaghetti, and toast, I would classify Costa Rica as less "adventurous" than Mexico or the DR. As for all-inclusive resorts themselves, it doesn't matter which country they're in. They are like international airport terminals.

I see a lot of trips in Costa Rica that include white water rafting, climbing, jungle hikes, etc.  There are also volcanoes with hot springs, and a lot of eco tourism developed.  This is what I was referring to.  I understand that many of these things could be found in the DR or Mexico, but Costa Rica has done a good ib o developing this and protecting forest cover.  It's also nice that you can drink the water...

Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Kron3007 on November 26, 2019, 06:15:24 AM
Quote from: clean on November 25, 2019, 05:56:27 PM
QuoteI have only been on one cruise, but I just felt like we were all being herded like sheep getting off the boat into the port where all the excursion wolves are waiting.

I have been on several cruises with Princess now, mostly short duration.  I understand the feeling a first timer might be left with.  Many of the ship board activities are actually infomercials for their products or services.  Many of the ports have excursions and there is often a rush to get off the ship to take them.

QuoteThere was a lot of push for shopping in the ports and on the ship, but they'd give coupons for free rum punches or tequila (which the adults enjoyed) and little gems and trinkets (which daughter enjoyed).
I dont particularly drink,  and the coupons for inland rum and tequila are likely enticements to buy more for home, and are lost on me. 

I might suggest, especially with the newer and bigger 'floating resort' ships that are out there now that you might enjoy the ship even more by skipping the excursions and staying on board! The lines on port days for the huge slides or bumper cars or whatever these newest, biggest ships have to offer are shortest while in port!!   
My parents (not water slide fans, mind you), have been more and more reluctant to visit the ports of call and much more likely to dip in the ship hot tubs or take advantage of some other ship board activity on the ship rather than venture off on a tour. 

I often travel (usually to Alaska) with my PhD school office mate (he is now retired).  We will make our way to town and either take a cab to where we want to go, or make our own arrangements.  We can see what is not on the tours and usually spend a fraction IF at all to do it!    Once we walked to a fish hatchery that was not yet open (it was too early for the salmon run), but as the hatchery was expecting a class of students, they let us join in that tour!!  Other times we have walked to  a local museum, or to the tourist information center run by the town (not the cruise lines) and found great deals and things not on the ship tour systems. 

however, we never (almost never anyway) eat while off the ship. Too much good food already paid for than to pay tourist prices to taste and get a picture eating a crab (which could be almost $100 a person for 'the experience' ... and in May the King Crab is NOT 'fresh from the docks!)

The point is, You dont have to get off the ship (especially the mega sized ones with the multi deck water parks) to have a great time!  Ive traveled with my Tween age niece (12-15) and she was always eager to ditch her parents and other geezers to  get back to the Tween Zone to play with her new best friends!  She was gone AND entertained most of the trip!  My brother would go to the first comedy show to ensure that it was kid friendly, but he always stayed and saw the next show !  The comedy shows, especially, are usually influenced by the audience so they are different enough each time to not be repeats and they are always (in my experience anyway) kid friendly and usually not politically decisive!!

I guess it depends on what you are looking for.  Personally, the idea of staying on a big boat isn't too appealling.  Why not just go to Vegas?

This dosnt even touch on the horrible environmental or labour record of cruise lines.
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Anselm on November 26, 2019, 07:58:29 AM
Quote from: mamselle on November 25, 2019, 09:36:10 PM
A chacun son gout, then, but...then why not just find a cruise ship in dry dock and live on it for a week?

I get the feeling of the "Accidental Tourist," never touching shore, never engaging with others, it feels very insular.

I like the idea of getting out and walking about on your own, and visiting places and so on--that part makes sense to me. 

But along with the number of ships capsizing, getting major illnesses on board, having squally weather turn into hurricanes, etc.....I've just never seen the point.

I hope the OP finds what will work best for them.

M.

Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours?

I've always been confused and mystified by people who go on foreign vacations where you never leave the resort.  What was the point of leaving the USA then?
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: clean on November 26, 2019, 09:14:13 AM
QuoteThe point is, You dont have to get off the ship (especially the mega sized ones with the multi deck water parks) to have a great time!

IF there are plenty of things to do at the port town, then do get off the ship and enjoy them!  I usually do, but  if you are unable to walk too far (as my parents are) or the town is not particularly appealing for whatever reason, you will not be bored with the ship. 

Why not vegas?  Too hot, too cold, lines, smoke everywhere (of all kinds these days), expensive shows, crowds...

Lately I find that cruises are particularly cost effective. I used to go to Disney World frequently.  While it is a great place to visit, it is not particularly inexpensive anymore.  EPCOT should be avoided on weekend nights during Food and Wine Festival because it is more and more filled with groups of people trying to 'drink around the world'.   

Anyway, as others have said, there are different vacations for different people.  A Cruise is essentially an all inclusive resort that changes the scenery frequently.  If you want to stay aboard, you can. If you want to get off (while in port anyway) you can.  There are plenty of activities included in the price you paid upfront and plenty of opportunity to pay for additional experiences!  If  a 50 mile hike on the Appalachian trial, sleeping in a tent, eating dehydrated food is your idea of a great time (and I ve done such things in my youth and had a great time), then dont pick a cruise. If you want to have different entertainment options, sit down meals, and such, then consider a cruise. It is not as expensive as one may think.
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Kron3007 on November 26, 2019, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: clean on November 26, 2019, 09:14:13 AM
QuoteThe point is, You dont have to get off the ship (especially the mega sized ones with the multi deck water parks) to have a great time!

IF there are plenty of things to do at the port town, then do get off the ship and enjoy them!  I usually do, but  if you are unable to walk too far (as my parents are) or the town is not particularly appealing for whatever reason, you will not be bored with the ship. 

Why not vegas?  Too hot, too cold, lines, smoke everywhere (of all kinds these days), expensive shows, crowds...

Lately I find that cruises are particularly cost effective. I used to go to Disney World frequently.  While it is a great place to visit, it is not particularly inexpensive anymore.  EPCOT should be avoided on weekend nights during Food and Wine Festival because it is more and more filled with groups of people trying to 'drink around the world'.   

Anyway, as others have said, there are different vacations for different people.  A Cruise is essentially an all inclusive resort that changes the scenery frequently.  If you want to stay aboard, you can. If you want to get off (while in port anyway) you can.  There are plenty of activities included in the price you paid upfront and plenty of opportunity to pay for additional experiences!  If  a 50 mile hike on the Appalachian trial, sleeping in a tent, eating dehydrated food is your idea of a great time (and I ve done such things in my youth and had a great time), then dont pick a cruise. If you want to have different entertainment options, sit down meals, and such, then consider a cruise. It is not as expensive as one may think.

They can definitely be cost effective.  My parents have been finding all sorts of incredibly cheap cruises recently, so cheap it seems like a scam but they have gone without issue.

For me, the distance to any ports where cruises would be leaving (at least in winter) makes the cost much less attractive though.  By the time I add the cost of the flight and a night or two in a hotel, the affordable looking cruise often becomes more expensive than a resort trip where the flight etc is included.     
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: clean on November 26, 2019, 01:41:02 PM
QuoteBy the time I add the cost of the flight and a night or two in a hotel, the affordable looking cruise often becomes more expensive than a resort trip where the flight etc is included. 

I usually cruise with Princess. Currently the sales include up to $200 off the price of flights booked through the cruise line.  For what it is worth, I looked at flights from the closest big city and the prices are definitely cheaper from the cruise line's site, but the direct flights are missing. 

Perhaps its because of my location, but the closest big city (150 miles to the airport) has direct flights to LA and some to Ft. Lauderdale  that allow me to take an early morning flight and be able to catch the ship on the same day.   (most of the Princess cruises to Mexico or the Caribbean go from those 2 cities).  I admit that the first day is probably lost because Im napping much of the time I first get on the ship, until the lifeboat drill (whatever it is called now).  So I dont necessarily have to get a room. However, the La Quinta near the airport allows you to park for up to 2 weeks I think for $20 if you stay the night coming or going.  By the time you pay the room and the $20, it is cheaper than paying for airport parking, even off site. 

Otherwise, I agree, that the cruises have been great bargains, but the airfares lately have nullified much of the savings.  I was looking at spring Break options recently and the airfare is more than the cruise fare!
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: spork on November 26, 2019, 04:56:25 PM
Quote from: Kron3007 on November 26, 2019, 06:13:03 AM
Quote from: spork on November 25, 2019, 04:52:22 PM
Quote from: Kron3007 on November 25, 2019, 01:32:50 PM

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We are kind of leaning toward Mexico or the Dominican for now, but if my kids were a little older I would also consider Costa Rica for something a little more adventurous.  I love Costa Rica, but with little kids, we are really looking for a more all inclusive, lazy holiday and I dont think Costa Rica is the best for this (or at least not in my budget).     

As mentioned by Hibush, Puerto Rico is worth investigating, especially on the basis of cost. For anything other than a walled all-inclusive resort with the breakfast buffet of sausage, spaghetti, and toast, I would classify Costa Rica as less "adventurous" than Mexico or the DR. As for all-inclusive resorts themselves, it doesn't matter which country they're in. They are like international airport terminals.

I see a lot of trips in Costa Rica that include white water rafting, climbing, jungle hikes, etc.  There are also volcanoes with hot springs, and a lot of eco tourism developed.  This is what I was referring to.  I understand that many of these things could be found in the DR or Mexico, but Costa Rica has done a good ib o developing this and protecting forest cover.  It's also nice that you can drink the water...

Ah, you mean "adventure adventure." Sorry for not understanding. Yes, Costa Rica has done a great job with ecotourism and environmental conservation. If I had children of elementary or high school age and was choosing a destination for a family trip, I would pick Costa Rica over the DR or Mexico hands down.
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: backatit on November 27, 2019, 05:00:22 AM
If you want to go to Costa Rica on a family trip, PM me. I have some connections there (I'm a long-time surfer and one of my good (and very TRUSTED) friends is a travel agent who specifically handles CR travel and lives there). He can set up specific family-friendly vacations. CR is where my surfer friends with small children and spouses in tow usually go- it's safer than El Salvador or Nicaragua (although they do go there as well).

It's a lovely country with a lot of history and natural beauty, but I don't go often anymore (there are better waves in El Salvador and some friends bought a beach house there so I've been concentrating my energy on there lately).

Puerto Rico is also nice. Another friend has a BNB at Isabela that got totally destroyed, but I believe she's mostly rebuilt now, which is good. One of my good friends is from there, and her family still lives there, so I keep up with news from the island regularly. They are open for business and NEED your money, so think about that if you can.
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Sodium on November 28, 2019, 05:10:07 PM
Thank you all for the wonderful suggestions. I hadn't considered cruises seriously before, but reading the posts made me reconsider that. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences!

Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Aster on December 03, 2019, 05:56:56 AM
Another endorsement for Costa Rica. I only do the interior and the Pacific side, but some of my friends have been to the Caribbean side and enjoyed it. Flights into San Jose (Costa Rican capitol) are cheap and abundant at U.S. airports. I highly recommend the mountain options in Costa Rica. You're in tropical latitudes so there aren't really any seasons, and most of the mountain options in Costa Rica are jaw-dropping. Tropical forests. Subtropical forests. Cloud forests. Costa Rica is volcanic and topographically rugged. Lots of wild areas have monkeys running around in the trees.

The island of Cozumel is also a popular Caribbean favorite for the economy-minded tourist. Many U.S. airports fly directly there throughout the week, and resort prices are very reasonable and family-friendly. If your family is scuba-certified, Cozumel is a top international destination in its own right.

Stay away from Cancun and the rest of the "Maya Riviera" on the Yucatan Peninsula. The mainland has a lot more crime. It used to be much safer taking the Cozumel ferry to the mainland for outings, but most people are recommending to just stay on Cozumel now.
Title: Re: Cheap and Best Carribean Destination?
Post by: Bbmaj7b5 on December 07, 2019, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: Parasaurolophus on November 21, 2019, 02:20:12 PM
Costa Rica? Cayman Islands? Bahamas? Bermuda?

I've heard great things about Costa Rica, and would find it tempting despite having no desire to do that sort of thing. I've been to the Cayman Islands. It was OK (but expensive).

I spent a few days doing post-disaster reconnaissance work for building damage and high water marks in Bahamas after Hurricane Dorian. Abaco was severely damaged, as was much of Grand Bahama outside of Freeport. The rest of Bahamas seemed to be ok.