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Title: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on August 28, 2020, 05:56:09 AM
NYT dropped SET, so in addition to the crossword, I'm been trying Spelling Bee.  However, I'm frustrated because it rejects perfectly good words, solid English language words that are in dictionaries.  Any body else doing Spelling Bee?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: mahagonny on August 28, 2020, 06:11:29 AM
I will try it as soon as I find out whether 'black' must be capitalized.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: fleabite on August 28, 2020, 07:59:45 AM
I do the Spelling Bee in the print edition. The instructions say that you can count any words you come up with that are in the dictionary but not in the list of answers. I'm guessing from your comment that the electronic edition has a fill-in-the-blanks interface that is rejecting some of your submissions. Maybe their standard dictionary is different from the one you use? For example, some dictionaries demand hyphens for certain words and others consider them non-hyphenated.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on August 28, 2020, 09:02:22 AM
Yeah, I do the free version online every day which cuts you off after a few words. They used to let you do the whole thing for free, but I think they got tired of me and others sending them words they missed. RAFFIA, PAPAIN...

I love the print one on Sundays. Like fleabite I check words in the dictionary and if they are there, I go for it.

I get to genius level. Eventually.

Have you tried LetterBoxed?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on August 28, 2020, 09:36:12 AM
I do Spelling Bee every day on the app, along with the crosswords.  Today was the first (and probably last) day that I got Queen Bee all by myself and in only an hour or so! Usually my husband and I work on it independently throughout the day, then compare lists, then... a little nerdy, but we each wrote computer programs to help find the remaining words.  I wrote mine in R, he wrote his in some language on his Linux system (Perl?).  They go about the process differently, so we usually find all of them eventually.  I also found a site that will give you the answers (you have to click a button to see them, so they aren't just readily visible on this site: https://nytbee.com/).  It also gives metrics for words seen most often, number of words of a particular length, etc.  We only look at that after all else has been exhausted.  My R program currently just checks against the Hunspell dictionary, which tends to leave some more technical words out, and his spits out way too many possible words.  So I am trying to build an actual Spelling Bee dictionary to check against by copying the words out from that site and making a database.  Sometimes there are words that we think should be in there that aren't, and some of the words that are in there are pretty wacky.  As far as I know, the Spelling Bee dictionary is not available.  From the NYT website, they describe it as curated.  But it certainly isn't the same as the crossword, for example.  There are a bunch we kick ourselves over and then try to remember going forward (acacia, acai, lulu, whatever that c word was yesterday, words that can have two spelling variations included).

Of course the fun is in trying to solve it yourself! But we are also using this as a programming exercise.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on August 28, 2020, 09:59:10 AM
NYT dropped SET, so in addition to the crossword, I'm been trying Spelling Bee.  However, I'm frustrated because it rejects perfectly good words, solid English language words that are in dictionaries.  Any body else doing Spelling Bee?

Yes! I do it every day. I generally manage to get genius and the pangram; Queen Bee is tougher. I get that a couple times a week, these days (but my first one was just a month or two ago).

But yeah, it rejects all kinds of legitimate words (including, but not limited to, any non-American spellings). I also find it incredibly frustrating. The puzzles also seem to repeat a fair bit, albeit occasionally with a different central letter. =/
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Boomvang on August 28, 2020, 12:23:57 PM
I, too, do the Spelling Bee every day on my phone (the paid version, which costs a little extra but is worth it). I keep going until I reach the Genius level, although occasionally I fall a bit short. I have assembled lists of words that are not accepted and I have emailed the NYT puzzlemasters about this a few times. In some cases, they have added words from the list. I encourage you to email them about words that they do not accept--the more of us who do so, the better the chances that they will instate them! I have also emailed them about reusing the same puzzle and just changing the letter in the center. The reply indicated that they are concerned about reaching the ceiling for variants of the puzzle.

I send my emails to: nytcrossword@nyt.com. Last time, they informed me that words suggestions should be sent to: buzzwords@nyt.com
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on August 28, 2020, 12:43:59 PM
I, too, do the Spelling Bee every day on my phone (the paid version, which costs a little extra but is worth it). I keep going until I reach the Genius level, although occasionally I fall a bit short. I have assembled lists of words that are not accepted and I have emailed the NYT puzzlemasters about this a few times. In some cases, they have added words from the list. I encourage you to email them about words that they do not accept--the more of us who do so, the better the chances that they will instate them! I have also emailed them about reusing the same puzzle and just changing the letter in the center. The reply indicated that they are concerned about reaching the ceiling for variants of the puzzle.

I send my emails to: nytcrossword@nyt.com. Last time, they informed me that words suggestions should be sent to: buzzwords@nyt.com

Thanks for bringing this up! We noticed the note about emailing acceptable words but always wondered what happens when you do.  It sounds as if they at least responded.  Did they let you know if there is a particular process for adjudication? One thing I'm torn about is whether I want them to add words in as time goes on.  On the one hand, they should be in there if they fit the criteria.  On the other hand, I have a mental list of "not in there but should be" and don't tend to check them again, so if they do add words in I would like to know! Can you say a little more about your experiences emailing the powers that be?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: evil_physics_witchcraft on August 28, 2020, 01:01:11 PM
I do the free version as well, but I haven't played in awhile since they started cutting you off after a few words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Boomvang on August 28, 2020, 01:14:34 PM
ab_grp:
They have responded to my emails every time. In general, their reasoning for finding words on my list unsuitable for inclusion has been that the words are not common enough. My reply was something to the effect of: as a Ph.D., I realize that I'm not the best judge, but in my view these words are common, and the Spelling Bee puzzles' own master list often includes words that are unfamiliar to me. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on August 28, 2020, 01:54:55 PM
Thanks for the additional detail, Boomvang.  It's great that they are so responsive, although some of their rulings seem pretty arbitrary.  This goes for compound words as well.  I shake my head at some of what's in there and some of what's not.  According to their site (https://help.nytimes.com/hc/en-us/articles/360029050872-Word-Games-and-Logic-Puzzles),

5. Why isn't every word in Spelling Bee?

Every Spelling Bee puzzle is hand-curated to focus on relatively common words (with a couple tough ones here and there to keep it challenging). Occasionally we'll miss some common words and add them in, but our puzzle editors ultimately draw from our internal lexicon and make the call for what's best with that day's puzzle.

The key word here is 'common'. We just removed words from Spelling Bee that we believe are not common enough, despite them being defined words, in order to maintain a level-field for all of our solvers.

We also try to avoid terms that are very specific to any professional field, such as terms that might be familiar to, for example, a physician, ornithologist or geologist, but not to people outside of that field of expertise.


Like I said, it seems a bit arbitrary.  It seems that some "common" words are not so common, even to those who are word game fanatics and etc.  And there are some in the puzzle that definitely seem pretty specific.  Maybe they are just outside my wheelhouse.  For example, "lamella(e)"? My husband identified those two (and promptly forgot to the next time they appeared), but only due to a weird discussion he happened to have with our dentist at one point.  Yet, "aroar", which is a NYT crossword fave, is not apparently a word.  Not the best example, but I can't think of others right now that we come across pretty often.  They also seem to take an arbitrary approach to which foreign words (currency, foods) are allowed.  The site I linked above also lists valid dictionary words that do not appear in each day's puzzle, if that is of interest.

I do wonder if they ever add words in.  I'm going to start keeping track of what we think should be in there, email the powers, see what happens, and report back.  I will also try to pay better attention to whether words that I don't think counted before do now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on August 28, 2020, 02:24:38 PM
'Lich' still isn't one, but anybody who's played any RPGs (tabletop or video) knows it, and that's... a lot of people these days. 'Afro' wasn't one recently, but a friend wrote to them about it. I think it counts now. A few times I've found pangrams that didn't count, and that was pretty annoying.

There are just so, so many, though. I can't keep track of them all. As for words that don't seem common... from yesterday's puzzle: boba, callaloo, clonal (I mean, sure, it's the adjective, but when have you ever come across it?), colcannon, and llano.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on August 28, 2020, 02:36:41 PM
There are just so, so many, though. I can't keep track of them all. As for words that don't seem common... from yesterday's puzzle: boba, callaloo, clonal (I mean, sure, it's the adjective, but when have you ever come across it?), colcannon, and llano.

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss.  Yes.  I was thinking callaloo specifically, but all of the above, and llano always gets us.  OH! Also, they include things like "doggo", "dunno", and "gonna"? And no "yoyo" (okay, maybe a brand name at one point, but still), "nono", "bobby",  but they'll take "bootee" and both "bandana" and "bandanna".  I do like to learn new words, like "dugong", and "tantara", which is apparently short for "taratantara".
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on August 28, 2020, 03:19:28 PM
I always wonder how they create the puzzle and decide where the level cut-offs are. Like it's that scientific...
 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on August 28, 2020, 03:26:12 PM
I haven't calculated all the levels, but Genius is approximately 70% of the total number of points.  I would guess the other levels are similar? Looks like Amazing is about 50% today.  Great is about 40%.  I use the reverse to figure out from Genius how many total points to expect.  Is that what you were asking, ciao_yall?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on August 28, 2020, 07:06:09 PM
Yeah, it looked to me like it was percentage-based, too.

Good call on 'yoyo'. I try it every time.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: fleabite on August 28, 2020, 07:24:43 PM
And no "yoyo" (okay, maybe a brand name at one point, but still), "nono", "bobby",  but they'll take "bootee" and both "bandana" and "bandanna".

At least in the print version, the words you construct have to have at least five letters, so "yo-yo" wouldn't qualify. Also, it's hyphenated, and hyphenated words are also no-nos.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on August 29, 2020, 05:34:11 AM
Glad to know I'm not the only frustrated speller.  Why don't they just use a standard dictionary??  And, boyoboy, I wish NYT would re-instate SET.  I don't like the online free version I found.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on September 03, 2020, 12:38:57 PM
Okay, there is a word today that is not in the puzzle that I definitely think should be! It's a pretty common word! I am going to use this as my experiment to write to the powers.  I'm sure I won't be the only one.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on September 03, 2020, 12:42:28 PM
Okay, there is a word today that is not in the puzzle that I definitely think should be! It's a pretty common word! I am going to use this as my experiment to write to the powers.  I'm sure I won't be the only one.

Eight letters? It should absolutely be counted. There's a bizarre omission at four letters, too.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on September 03, 2020, 12:51:24 PM
Okay, there is a word today that is not in the puzzle that I definitely think should be! It's a pretty common word! I am going to use this as my experiment to write to the powers.  I'm sure I won't be the only one.

Eight letters? It should absolutely be counted. There's a bizarre omission at four letters, too.

Hmm! I was talking about a four-letter word (probably same as yours) but am now curious about the eight-letter word.   As an update, I had emailed the address provided in the app (NYTCrossword@nytimes.com) just to see if they would redirect me as they had Boomvang.  I received an auto-reply within a minute and then a real reply within two minutes! Apparently, quite a lot of folks have notified them of the omission, it was an honest error, and it will most certainly show up in any future puzzles for which it would be a possibility letter-wise.  So, that definitely seems like confirmation that they will add words in at times.  I will be keeping an eye out! But I appreciate their swift response.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on September 04, 2020, 04:54:04 AM
Denied cove!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on September 04, 2020, 08:40:04 AM
My email was about cope.  Parasaurolophus, what was the eight-letter word you were thinking of?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on September 04, 2020, 08:56:13 AM
My email was about cope.  Parasaurolophus, what was the eight-letter word you were thinking of?

Pellmell. I'll grant it's usually hyphenated, but it's spelled without often enough that it should have worked, as far as I'm concerned. More readily acceptable than today's four-letter Spanish word, I should think!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on September 04, 2020, 09:14:41 AM
My email was about cope.  Parasaurolophus, what was the eight-letter word you were thinking of?

Pellmell. I'll grant it's usually hyphenated, but it's spelled without often enough that it should have worked, as far as I'm concerned. More readily acceptable than today's four-letter Spanish word, I should think!

Ah, yep! We tried that one, too.  I don't think I found the Spanish word yet, but now I have a lead! Still have about 16 points to go for QB and am, as usual, stuck.  I would also like to know why some common dances are accepted and others aren't.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on September 15, 2020, 04:37:51 AM
Didn't quite make genius, but yesterday I used ALL the letters in one word!!!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on September 15, 2020, 08:20:04 AM
Didn't quite make genius, but yesterday I used ALL the letters in one word!!!

Nice work! I really struggled with yesterday's, especially the pangram. I don't accept 'boogaloo'. It's not a word, it's just what some bigoted fascist morons call themselves.


Lots of non-words-that-should-be-words in today's. And I noticed the other day that they still haven't decided to accept 'atlatl'.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on September 15, 2020, 09:24:55 AM
Lede and clitic aren't on the list of acceptable (English) words, but raita and baobab are OK. I'm still struggling with today's pangram.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on September 15, 2020, 09:46:10 AM
Right, clitic! I tried it yesterday, but was struggling to remember it this morning.

I don't have the pangram yet either, but if I don't see it early, it usually comes to me after I've set it aside for a few hours.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on September 15, 2020, 10:20:00 AM
It took me forever to get the pangram today.  I think I already had genius plus 20 or so points by the time my husband finally got it and I begged him for a clue.  I tried so many compound words that didn't work.  Boogaloo really annoyed me yesterday.  It was the only word I was missing, and my program didn't find it (I guess I need to load more of the solutions to the database to help supplement the dictionary match).  When I finally just looked at the answer page, I just thought okay, whatever.  Give me a break.  So many more common words do not appear, but then some wackadoo words are in there.  I did try gabagool yesterday, which was kind of funny because we then watched an episode of The Office in which they used that word.  Anyway, today I still have about 12 points to go and am running my program, so we'll see.  Otherwise, I will just stew on it all day and not get as much done.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on September 15, 2020, 10:59:28 AM
I did try gabagool yesterday, which was kind of funny because we then watched an episode of The Office in which they used that word.


Haha, me too!

Boogaloo is just not a word. At all. In any dictionary except the urban one. I may just complain about it, because wtf.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on September 15, 2020, 11:31:46 AM
I did try gabagool yesterday, which was kind of funny because we then watched an episode of The Office in which they used that word.


Haha, me too!

Boogaloo is just not a word. At all. In any dictionary except the urban one. I may just complain about it, because wtf.

Go for it! I am also driven crazy by the inconsistency in which archaic or variant spellings are allowed.  Enow? Really? Not gaol, though.  And cancan but not chacha, even though both seem to be hyphenated in their common forms.  No enema or ebola, either, from what I recall.  Maybe I just can't discern why the included ones are considered appropriate but not the excluded ones.  We finally got QB today through my husband's program.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on September 15, 2020, 05:15:44 PM
I did try gabagool yesterday, which was kind of funny because we then watched an episode of The Office in which they used that word.

Boogaloo is just not a word. At all. In any dictionary except the urban one. I may just complain about it, because wtf.

I might complain about boogaloo too especially since croft, which I had assumed to be a proper English word, wasn't accepated.
My apologies if the quote function malfunctions.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: fleabite on September 15, 2020, 08:00:58 PM
I did try gabagool yesterday, which was kind of funny because we then watched an episode of The Office in which they used that word.


Haha, me too!

Boogaloo is just not a word. At all. In any dictionary except the urban one. I may just complain about it, because wtf.

Go for it! I am also driven crazy by the inconsistency in which archaic or variant spellings are allowed.  Enow? Really? Not gaol, though.  And cancan but not chacha, even though both seem to be hyphenated in their common forms.  No enema or ebola, either, from what I recall.  Maybe I just can't discern why the included ones are considered appropriate but not the excluded ones.  We finally got QB today through my husband's program.

I believe that the dictionary used for copyediting at the New York Times is Webster’s New World College Dictionary. Therefore, those compiling the games are probably using that dictionary's spelling and hyphenation when determining whether a word is valid for the Spelling Bee. If you don't happen to have a copy, you could also try Merriam Webster's Eleventh Collegiate Dictionary, which is the dictionary of choice for Chicago style. That's what I have, and it must be relatively close to the New World College Dictionary, because my spellings tend to follow those of the Spelling Bee approved answers.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on September 16, 2020, 05:43:58 AM
I am delighted with ya'lls take on Spelling Bee, and to find that I'm definitely not the only one who goes grrrr at what is acceptable and what isn't.  Croft NO but boogaloo YES?????   NONONO
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Boomvang on September 16, 2020, 11:51:30 AM
Agreed. As I wrote before in this thread, send your comments and suggestions to the NYT puzzlemasters about such issues.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on September 16, 2020, 12:06:36 PM
Maybe we can take turns sending the complaints of the week in.  I want to add the absence of loggia the other day.  And there is a word in it today that is another WTF given that others are not included.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Boomvang on September 16, 2020, 12:16:46 PM
ab_group: I tried that too. As per previous comments, I tried "croft" as well and I was quite surprised when "cope" was not accepted. Haven't done today's yet (set them aside for the evening), so posters please don't give anything away!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on September 16, 2020, 01:51:39 PM
Yes, I agree... I try to make only obscure references to the current day's puzzle.  If that is still too much or could be so, someone please say so, and then maybe we should hold off current day puzzle chat until the next day.  That would be fine with me if it prevents spoiling puzzle happiness!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on September 16, 2020, 05:58:59 PM
Here's the reply from the Spelling Bee Technical Specialist. Hu did not respond to my questions as to why words such as croft, lede, clitic, tarn were unacceptable whereas gonna, wanna, boogaloo, naan, raita were acceptable. The response earns an F.

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[/quoteWelcome to Spelling Bee! Thrilled to hear that you are having enough fun solving to send us a note. In short, our word lists are curated. Here is a bit of the how and a bit of the why:

While proper names and words that contain hyphens or apostrophes are not part of our word list, every Spelling Bee puzzle is hand-curated to focus on relatively common words, with a couple of tough ones here and there to keep it challenging. Occasionally, we may miss a common word or two and will add them in, but our puzzle editors ultimately draw from an internal lexicon and make the call for what's best with that day's puzzle. Lastly, In fairness to our wide-ranging audience, Spelling Bee avoids terms that are hyper-specific to any professional field, such as terms that might be familiar to, for example, a physician, ornithologist or geologist, but not to people outside of that field of expertise.

What words has the solving community spoken up about recently? BUCCAL, CARRACK, MILT, MITOTIC, NEOTENY, INTINCTION, INFARCT, LANTANA, LUFF, ONCOGENE, PORPHYRY, TROPONIN, and PHTHALATE, among others. While these terms are certainly defined, they either do not meet the bar of commonality that this puzzle has employed since its first day in circulation or they break a rule of the puzzle.

I hope that offers you at least a bit of solace and some proper clarity here! Thank you again for taking the time to send us a note, and most of all, for solving with us.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on September 17, 2020, 06:13:06 AM
Here's the reply from the Spelling Bee Technical Specialist. Hu did not respond to my questions as to why words such as croft, lede, clitic, tarn were unacceptable whereas gonna, wanna, boogaloo, naan, raita were acceptable. The response earns an F.

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[/quoteWelcome to Spelling Bee! Thrilled to hear that you are having enough fun solving to send us a note. In short, our word lists are curated. Here is a bit of the how and a bit of the why:

While proper names and words that contain hyphens or apostrophes are not part of our word list, every Spelling Bee puzzle is hand-curated to focus on relatively common words, with a couple of tough ones here and there to keep it challenging. Occasionally, we may miss a common word or two and will add them in, but our puzzle editors ultimately draw from an internal lexicon and make the call for what's best with that day's puzzle. Lastly, In fairness to our wide-ranging audience, Spelling Bee avoids terms that are hyper-specific to any professional field, such as terms that might be familiar to, for example, a physician, ornithologist or geologist, but not to people outside of that field of expertise.

What words has the solving community spoken up about recently? BUCCAL, CARRACK, MILT, MITOTIC, NEOTENY, INTINCTION, INFARCT, LANTANA, LUFF, ONCOGENE, PORPHYRY, TROPONIN, and PHTHALATE, among others. While these terms are certainly defined, they either do not meet the bar of commonality that this puzzle has employed since its first day in circulation or they break a rule of the puzzle.

I hope that offers you at least a bit of solace and some proper clarity here! Thank you again for taking the time to send us a note, and most of all, for solving with us.

Guess us academics are just dumb bunnies for not knowing that lede is really le-de.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on September 17, 2020, 08:00:44 AM
Or, they could just include all possible words, and to achieve genius one only needs to get 70% of them instead of 90%.

But that would make too much sense.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on September 17, 2020, 10:35:35 AM
Or, they could just include all possible words, and to achieve genius one only needs to get 70% of them instead of 90%.

But that would make too much sense.

That'd be nice.

There'd still be no *%!$/&)ing 'boogaloo', though.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Boomvang on September 17, 2020, 02:37:56 PM
A suggestion to all: It might be fun to form a Zoom or Skype group to chat about these matters and others associated with NYT puzzles. Is anyone interested? Is there a way to start one and join in a way that would not reveal who posts under which username in The Fora?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: reener06 on September 17, 2020, 05:55:38 PM
I've  become addicted since  April--it's  often  the bright spot in my pandemic day.

Also, I "cheat" (and enjoy the data) at: www.nytbee.com.  I don't look at the answers but I look at the common words, what words were rejected, how many   of each size word, how difficult, how many pangrams,  how many total  words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on September 18, 2020, 05:01:40 AM
A suggestion to all: It might be fun to form a Zoom or Skype group to chat about these matters and others associated with NYT puzzles. Is anyone interested? Is there a way to start one and join in a way that would not reveal who posts under which username in The Fora?

I have iffy internet so won't work for me.  But thanks for the idea.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on September 25, 2020, 06:34:56 AM
Got the pantagram two days in a row but yesterday's total score was still low.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on September 25, 2020, 10:24:18 AM
Got the pantagram two days in a row but yesterday's total score was still low.

Well done!


Today, I'm complaining that a couple days ago, 'troy' was counted as a word. Either it's a proper noun, in which case it's ineligible, or it's an adjective meaning 'expressed or computed in troy weight', in which case, it's so obscure that almost nobody knows it and is instead thinking of the ancient city, so it's ineligible.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on September 26, 2020, 04:47:10 AM
Got the pantagram two days in a row but yesterday's total score was still low.

Well done!


Today, I'm complaining that a couple days ago, 'troy' was counted as a word. Either it's a proper noun, in which case it's ineligible, or it's an adjective meaning 'expressed or computed in troy weight', in which case, it's so obscure that almost nobody knows it and is instead thinking of the ancient city, so it's ineligible.

Thanks!   Though I'm going to disagree about 'troy' which I did not get.  I'm disagreeing because, if we're doing the NYT Spelling Bee, we obviously think we're smarter than the average bear so should know about 'troy.'  ~:)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on September 26, 2020, 09:37:00 AM
...locoweed?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on September 27, 2020, 05:16:17 AM
'Labrador' isn't on today's list.  GRRRRR
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on September 27, 2020, 10:31:55 AM
Nor boll. Much to my surprise, enow was accepted a couple of days ago, but not lego yesterday.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 06, 2020, 03:35:10 PM
Caught and forgot another suprising omission t'other day.

I have to confess that I'd been having a bad few days until yesterday. It was days in a row of not hitting 'genius', or anywhere even close (all those days where it was set at 170+ points). Dunno if it was stress or distraction, or whatever. But I was really sucking (comparatively). I think I'm back on form now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 06, 2020, 04:15:17 PM
There were a couple days of really big (number of words) puzzles, and unfortunately a lot of that tends to be grind-it-out stuff like adding various prefixes and/or suffixes.  After a while, that can feel a bit boring (husband calls those bookkeeping puzzles... always have to check to be sure we've tried all variations of words).  There was one the other day that was really tough for us due to the combination of letters, and on more than one day we couldn't find the final words using either of our programs.  Then yesterday or the day before, I got queen bee by myself before finishing my first cup of coffee, and in comparing our lists today we were able to get queen bee without having to run our programs.  The experience certainly differs from day to day or set of letters to set of letters! At least I got to try "yabba dabba doo" a week or so ago.  I know, it has spaces.  I still tried it.  There have been a couple compound words recently that didn't appear in the puzzle that seemed as though they should given the random stuff they often include.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 07, 2020, 01:40:19 PM
Dudette was nixed, but the Spelling Bee allows a plethora of words that are obscure, archaic, or non-English.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: reener06 on October 07, 2020, 03:55:48 PM
I'm down to needing one five-letter word to be Queen Bee and I'm done. They should allow dudette, among other things. Grrr. I did get to genius halfway through first cup. Some letter combinations fire my brain; others do not.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on October 08, 2020, 04:09:26 AM
I'm down to needing one five-letter word to be Queen Bee and I'm done. They should allow dudette, among other things. Grrr. I did get to genius halfway through first cup. Some letter combinations fire my brain; others do not.

Same for me on the letter combos. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 08, 2020, 05:33:19 AM
It's a brutal one today, or so it seems.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 08, 2020, 08:01:46 AM
Yeah, I'm stuck at 34 right now. But inspiration often strikes me later in the day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 08, 2020, 08:06:19 AM
Yeah, I'm stuck at 21 right now. But inspiration often strikes me later in the day.
Me too, stuck at 22. I usually mange to find more words when I come back to it later. I often get the pangrams, but not the run of the mill words. Today, though, I think I AM stuck.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 08, 2020, 09:34:30 AM
Immediately after posting, I found two more for 13 points. But I'm definitely stuck again, and probably will be until the end of the day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 08, 2020, 10:08:00 AM
Just inched up to 45. Still on 'Great'.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 08, 2020, 10:48:18 AM
I'm down to needing one five-letter word to be Queen Bee and I'm done. They should allow dudette, among other things. Grrr. I did get to genius halfway through first cup. Some letter combinations fire my brain; others do not.

What did the final word end up being? For us it was "outdo"... I always miss those for some reason.  Totally agree on dudette!

Today was short but tough.  We ended up comparing once we reached genius, and then I figured out the final word, but at least there weren't a ton of words I thought should be in there that weren't this time.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 08, 2020, 12:56:45 PM
Felt like a marathon today, but I made it.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 08, 2020, 03:10:48 PM
Had a glance and saw the pangram and a few more. Not there yet, but probably by the end of the day!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 10, 2020, 08:17:59 AM
Yesterday was a haul and not helped by husband having to go into the office and stay longer than planned, so we finally finished up in the evening and had to look at the final words.  Colcannon! Argh! And also vanillin.  I am also still mad about dudette given that they had phat the other day.

Today I am having an interesting experience.  Usually I kill the app so it resets (otherwise, the following day it sometimes just shows me at Queen Bee with the previous days letters), but sometimes I don't if I'm going to do some archived crosswords.  I hadn't, so I thought I did that this morning, but when I opened the app it had me at 0 points and with new letters but with Queen Bee! I figured I'd just go for it and see what happens.  I'm now at 48 words and 888 points.  I guess after starting to input words it put me at some really high point count.  I have been taking screen shots because it's just funny to me.  But I figure I must have surpassed genius by now, if each word is at least 4 points and it's only 169 to genius.  Plus I have a bunch of longer words.  It hadn't changed my status before (to good start, moving up, etc.), but genius usually changes the screen briefly, so I thought maybe it would do something at that point.  Anyway, I guess I still have some words left to find.  We shall see what happens if I can find all of them before something happens that resets the app.  I'm trying not to leave the bee, though I usually try to get the crossword done first.  An exciting day in the NYT games app! Has anyone had this happen before?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 10, 2020, 08:39:18 AM
ab_grp, what app are you using? Spelling Bee saves my entries so I can use my desktop, kindle, phone, and occasionally my laptop depending on when I'm playing.

All I need today is a six-letter word. Pullup is a no-no.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 10, 2020, 09:25:30 AM
ab_grp, what app are you using? Spelling Bee saves my entries so I can use my desktop, kindle, phone, and occasionally my laptop depending on when I'm playing.

All I need today is a six-letter word. Pullup is a no-no.

I use the NYT Crossword app.  I use the desktop login to play sudoku, because I am slow enough at that without trying to do it on my phone through the website, and it is not in the app (yet?).

Good luck finding the final word! Could it be a 5 letter and a 4 letter? I realized my reasoning before was faulty, thinking that if each is at least 4 letters (thinking 4 points for those), I must be at least at genius.  It turned out when comparing to my husband's that I was at genius, but I am the one who always reminds him that 4-letter words are only 1 point, so I guess I was too aflutter about the app shenanigans. 

Looks like I have only a few more words to find so am just going to run the program to see what happens when I get to real QB.  Probably nothing exciting, but I feel like I am stuck in this app until I finish this today.  Then onto the crosswords! Given the total points and number of words I have left, some must be 4-letter, but I feel like I have tried everything I can think of. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 10, 2020, 11:57:27 AM
I use my kindle for most of the games, as I've found that the crossword doesn't show up properly on my phone. I start on the Spelling Bee first thing every morning, even before getting caffeinated.

I did find the last word--I typed in a sequence of letters that turned out to be an actual word. I'll keep coming back to it as I often find more words later in the day.

Vanillin was a surprise, as were anion and anionic.

The mini is one of my favorites. I also work on Letter Boxed, but don't always manage to get all the letters into three or four words, which is my maximum (I have my own rules).

Hope you made it to QB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 10, 2020, 12:25:55 PM
I had to change some of the settings on my phone so that the crossword appeared the way I wanted it to.  A big help was changing the font size! But if I had a tablet or such, I would prefer to use that.  I will have to check with my Kindles! One is eight years old (Kindle Fire).  The other is one of the new paperwhites.  I'm not sure if the older one has the ability to access that app, and the newer one might not be much bigger display than my phone.  Still, I never thought of using either of them!

Congrats on finding the last word! We hacked at it and hacked at it and finally just ran the programs.  Mine found three longer words that we had missed somehow.  I had to look up the final word on the answer site so husband did not have to plow through a huge list of four-letter words.  The final one was pretty dumb, in my opinion.

So what happened when I finally inputted that four-letter word? Nothing! It said "Nice!", added 1 point to my total, and then just sat there.  So I ended up with a purported 939 points.  I finally backed out of the Bee to get to the crosswords, went back in, and was told I was Queen Bee with yesterday's total points and number of words.  Now I just went back in and it has reset and shows me at QB with the correct totals for today.  I don't know why glitches amuse me so much.  Thanks for the QB wishes!

I like the mini, too.  I usually start with the Bee, working on it while I am getting ready first thing in the morning.  Then we make coffee, and I try to go back and do the mini and then the regular daily crosswords.  Then back to the Bee until I at least get Genius, and over to Wordscapes to do that daily puzzle.  Then back to the Bee.  I have tried Letter Boxed but don't find it very intuitive for some reason.  Maybe I just need to keep at it.  I definitely understand having your own rules.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 10, 2020, 12:39:58 PM
Spelling Bee would on your Kindle Fire. Mine dates back to 2014. All you need is your anytime username and password.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 10, 2020, 02:20:18 PM
Spelling Bee would on your Kindle Fire. Mine dates back to 2014. All you need is your anytime username and password.

Thanks! I dug out the old Kindle and got some charge in it but don't see the app in the store.  I am probably doing something wrong and will have to look into it more.  Maybe my device is too old? It uses Amazon App Store for Android.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 10, 2020, 02:47:04 PM
There isn't any app for the Spelling Bee. I think I just typed my username and password. NYTimes used to have an app for the kindle but discontinued it a few years ago.

If you can access your NYTimes account on the internet on Kindle, you should be able to access the games as well.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 10, 2020, 03:18:21 PM
Oh, that makes sense.  I'll see if I can access it through the site instead.  Too bad that they discontinued the app, though.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: reener06 on October 12, 2020, 11:36:14 AM
What is up with today? I thought Monday was easier. Blech. I hate these letters.I got to  Amazing, and have 31 points to go. Blech.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 12, 2020, 11:38:53 AM
What is up with today? I thought Monday was easier. Blech. I hate these letters.I got to  Amazing, and have 31 points to go. Blech.

Yeah, it's tough. I've only got 83 points so far.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: OneMoreYear on October 12, 2020, 11:53:37 AM
What is up with today? I thought Monday was easier. Blech. I hate these letters.I got to  Amazing, and have 31 points to go. Blech.

Yeah, it's tough. I've only got 83 points so far.

Agreed. I got one of the pangrams fairly early on, then stalled.  Could not make these letters work in my head. I think I do worse when the anchor letter is a vowel. Also, I just kept seeing "donut" which of course doesn't count for anything and makes me want snack food.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 12, 2020, 11:54:55 AM
Agree. Tedious, and not very interesting words. I made it to QB though.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 12, 2020, 12:05:07 PM
We got pretty far with it before going to the programs and then the answers, but that's probably because most words were pretty familiar and easy to get from previous puzzles.  Some we just forgot about.  I think we were about 17 points away before the programs, then 6 points away after.  Had to look at the answers to find the final word.  I thought it was okay, not super fun, not a super drudge.  At least there weren't any really crazy words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: monarda on October 12, 2020, 12:44:05 PM
Thanks for this thread. How did I not know that these puzzles existed? I've been doing NYT crosswords Thurs-Sun each week.
This will be a good way to burn some time on Mon-Weds (!)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on October 13, 2020, 05:38:57 AM
Just got today's panagram on the 5th word, so will quit while I'm ahead!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 13, 2020, 06:35:55 AM
Today's wasn't too bad, but I'm stuck. I'll have to come back to it later for my last two words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: OneMoreYear on October 13, 2020, 07:00:01 AM
Yes, the pangram came easy today! Good way to start the morning. Perhaps it's because there is only one vowel?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on October 13, 2020, 07:38:32 AM
Since I'm doing the free version it cuts me off just as I'm getting started.

But if I start paying, I'll get Letter Boxed, and I'll never stop looking at my phone and end up like Arachnia.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 13, 2020, 08:47:51 AM
Thanks for this thread. How did I not know that these puzzles existed? I've been doing NYT crosswords Thurs-Sun each week.
This will be a good way to burn some time on Mon-Weds (!)

Glad you found us!

Today's seems a bit tough, but maybe I need more coffee.  I did get a pangram and got to genius, but I am at a loss for now.  I'll go back to it.  I will have some comments about particulars tomorrow so I don't give anything away.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 13, 2020, 09:30:55 AM
Since I'm doing the free version it cuts me off just as I'm getting started.

But if I start paying, I'll get Letter Boxed, and I'll never stop looking at my phone and end up like Arachnia.

Letter boxed is not as satisfying as the Bee, and that's the problem: I can go on and on and on and on forever.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: OneMoreYear on October 13, 2020, 09:49:09 AM
Since I'm doing the free version it cuts me off just as I'm getting started.

But if I start paying, I'll get Letter Boxed, and I'll never stop looking at my phone and end up like Arachnia.

Yeah, me too, just the free version for now. I try to at least find the pangram before it cuts me off, then I just write my answers down and compare to the answer list. Probably not as satisfying as playing with the subscription.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 14, 2020, 01:50:07 PM
Did anyone else find yesterday's entry "gaydar" to be a little surprising? What they include or not or think is appropriate or not really boggles the mind sometimes.  At this point, I figure I will just try anything that comes to mind.  You never know.

Today was another long one.  We got pretty far before having to throw in the towel and go get some other things accomplished.  I only knew one of the three remaining words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 14, 2020, 06:22:01 PM
Gaydar was a wild guess on my part. I'd much rather have difficult puzzles that contain fewer words instead of puzzles that contain more than 200 words as was the case today and probably on Monday.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 16, 2020, 12:49:05 PM
There was a nice, long article about the bee in the NYT today: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/crosswords/spellingbee-puzzles.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/crosswords/spellingbee-puzzles.html)

I found it interesting that a reasonably small percentage of people reach genius and that QB is apparently an easter egg level? The article mentions that genius is actually the official top level.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on October 16, 2020, 02:54:24 PM
I didn't know there was a level past Genius!

That said, I only play the free version these days. I got sick of finding words that Spelling Bee doesn't accept. This morning's was MILT.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 16, 2020, 09:57:03 PM
I'd assumed that QB was another name for genius.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on October 17, 2020, 05:34:40 AM
There was a nice, long article about the bee in the NYT today: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/crosswords/spellingbee-puzzles.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/crosswords/spellingbee-puzzles.html)

I found it interesting that a reasonably small percentage of people reach genius and that QB is apparently an easter egg level? The article mentions that genius is actually the official top level.

Thanks.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 17, 2020, 09:43:24 AM
Well, QB is all the possible points, and genius is about 70% of possible points.  I have always shot for QB, because I thought that was the point, but it's good to know genius is the official goal.  Today is shorter, but I have still not gotten to genius.  Some days are definitely more challenging than the others.  It would be interesting to know which letter combos, numbers of words, and so forth are associated with more or fewer people getting to genius.  I would like a look at the data! But it also made me wonder if those counts take into account folks like those on this thread who play the free version and can only go so far before being cut off, as that would have an impact on the percentages reaching genius. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 17, 2020, 10:24:03 AM
I got today's pangram, but am still looking for what must be very obviously common words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 17, 2020, 04:08:07 PM
I got today's pangram, but am still looking for what must be very obviously common words.

The pangram popped right out at me, but then I got stuck in the sludge.  Finally, spouse and I both got to genius and compared lists and had only 7 or so points left to QB.  We probably should have gotten one of the two words that were left at that point.  Oh well.  I hope you had some luck with your efforts!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on October 17, 2020, 04:16:29 PM
I'm doing the free version and got the panagram first. Then it cut me off... Oh well.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 17, 2020, 04:25:41 PM
I'm doing the free version and got the panagram first. Then it cut me off... Oh well.

What is the criterion for cutting you off? Is it if you get so many points, or spend so much time, or something like that? Sorry you get cut off like that.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 17, 2020, 04:38:38 PM
I'm still suck, but have been out and about, so I don't think I'll get around to looking for more words tonight.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 22, 2020, 07:33:21 AM
Yesterday, it didn't accept 'decile'.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: OneMoreYear on October 22, 2020, 07:47:46 AM
I'm playing the free version; after it kicks me off, I write down more words and compare to answer key, so I'm never sure exactly how well I've done, but I'm happy if I get most words and the pangrams.
Today, it kicked me off after I entered 3 words (including the pangram, what else cold it be?). There must not be that many words today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 22, 2020, 08:00:00 AM
Today's was short, but not sweet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 22, 2020, 08:54:59 AM
I was mad that decile was not included.  And yet pfft has been in there a couple times lately! Pfft!! I have reached genius but not QB so far today.  Due to the letter placement, it seems as though it's going to be one of those bookkeeping types.  Yesterday was as well.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 23, 2020, 05:53:44 AM
Today's was easy. I got to genius, but have to wait until later to find more words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 23, 2020, 10:20:07 AM
I am stuck with about 7 points left to QB but hope to get them.  I got the final word on my own again yesterday and hope the streak continues! I'm probably jinxing myself.  There were a bunch of easy words today, but I did get stuck now and again before either just guessing a word that worked or realizing I had overlooked a very easy word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 24, 2020, 07:17:11 AM
It's a dreary one today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 24, 2020, 02:37:28 PM
We finally each got genius, compared, and got to QB without looking at the program output.  The final word was a guess of letters that could work together, which I am not a fan of.  I managed to get two like that yesterday (photoic and photopic).  The final word we got today seemed very specific given that they did not have "anjou" in there a couple days ago, and that is a pretty common type of pear. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 24, 2020, 02:49:38 PM
We finally each got genius, compared, and got to QB without looking at the program output.  The final word was a guess of letters that could work together, which I am not a fan of.  I managed to get two like that yesterday (photoic and photopic).  The final word we got today seemed very specific given that they did not have "anjou" in there a couple days ago, and that is a pretty common type of pear.

Anjou is a French province, though, so it's a proper noun.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 24, 2020, 02:51:55 PM
We finally each got genius, compared, and got to QB without looking at the program output.  The final word was a guess of letters that could work together, which I am not a fan of.  I managed to get two like that yesterday (photoic and photopic).  The final word we got today seemed very specific given that they did not have "anjou" in there a couple days ago, and that is a pretty common type of pear.

Anjou is a French province, though, so it's a proper noun.

That makes sense, but they also have "panama" in there.  I assumed it was included because it's a type of hat (?), but it's also a proper noun.  Maybe there's some other distinction between them?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 24, 2020, 04:22:31 PM
We finally each got genius, compared, and got to QB without looking at the program output.  The final word was a guess of letters that could work together, which I am not a fan of.  I managed to get two like that yesterday (photoic and photopic).  The final word we got today seemed very specific given that they did not have "anjou" in there a couple days ago, and that is a pretty common type of pear.

Anjou is a French province, though, so it's a proper noun.

That makes sense, but they also have "panama" in there.  I assumed it was included because it's a type of hat (?), but it's also a proper noun.  Maybe there's some other distinction between them?

Uh oh. Sigh. The 'system' isn't even systematic.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 25, 2020, 05:41:19 AM
We finally each got genius, compared, and got to QB without looking at the program output.  The final word was a guess of letters that could work together, which I am not a fan of.  I managed to get two like that yesterday (photoic and photopic).  The final word we got today seemed very specific given that they did not have "anjou" in there a couple days ago, and that is a pretty common type of pear.

Anjou is a French province, though, so it's a proper noun.

That makes sense, but they also have "panama" in there.  I assumed it was included because it's a type of hat (?), but it's also a proper noun.  Maybe there's some other distinction between them?

Uh oh. Sigh. The 'system' isn't even systematic.

If the system accepts panama as a synonym for hat, then it should also accept anjou as one of the synonyms for pear.
Today's is joyless. I'm giving up.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 25, 2020, 09:27:09 AM
We finally each got genius, compared, and got to QB without looking at the program output.  The final word was a guess of letters that could work together, which I am not a fan of.  I managed to get two like that yesterday (photoic and photopic).  The final word we got today seemed very specific given that they did not have "anjou" in there a couple days ago, and that is a pretty common type of pear.

Anjou is a French province, though, so it's a proper noun.

That makes sense, but they also have "panama" in there.  I assumed it was included because it's a type of hat (?), but it's also a proper noun.  Maybe there's some other distinction between them?

Uh oh. Sigh. The 'system' isn't even systematic.

If the system accepts panama as a synonym for hat, then it should also accept anjou as one of the synonyms for pear.
Today's is joyless. I'm giving up.

It does seem inconsistent.  The final word we got yesterday was "Puli", which appears to be a type of dog that is capitalized in most references I've seen.  Seems comparatively uncommon and also to test the boundaries of acceptable.

I am almost to genius today and don't think it will be too much trouble to get there.  Not sure about QB yet.  But the pangram (or one of them if there is more than one) seems a bit more difficult than most.   I had heard the word (somewhere?) and got it, but I had no idea what it meant until I looked it up just now. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 25, 2020, 01:31:17 PM
I too was surprised to see 'puli'. Just crept up to 79. That's it for today, I think.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on October 25, 2020, 03:46:10 PM
The inconsistencies are why I hate the online edition. It will take YUCCA but not LANTANA or VERBENA. YTTRIUM but not VANILLIN. As langue_doc says, it's joyless.

They should put every possible word in the online solution and just set the bar a bit lower.

Meanwhile in the old-school print edition I am one word short from genius this morning.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on October 26, 2020, 04:58:45 AM
The inconsistencies are why I hate the online edition. It will take YUCCA but not LANTANA or VERBENA. YTTRIUM but not VANILLIN. As langue_doc says, it's joyless.

They should put every possible word in the online solution and just set the bar a bit lower.

Meanwhile in the old-school print edition I am one word short from genius this morning.

Where do you get the print edition?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on October 26, 2020, 05:30:59 AM
Boy am I pissed!!!  The first word I put in today was "dicot" and it was rejected!!!  Don't even want to keep going.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 26, 2020, 06:58:28 AM
Another dreary one. You need @250 points to reach Genius.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 26, 2020, 08:13:31 AM
Hmm. No 'factum' yesterday.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on October 26, 2020, 09:01:55 AM
The inconsistencies are why I hate the online edition. It will take YUCCA but not LANTANA or VERBENA. YTTRIUM but not VANILLIN. As langue_doc says, it's joyless.

They should put every possible word in the online solution and just set the bar a bit lower.

Meanwhile in the old-school print edition I am one word short from genius this morning.

Where do you get the print edition?

Sunday paper delivered. It's in the magazine with the crossword puzzle.

I achieved genius BTW.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on October 26, 2020, 09:07:17 AM
Are well all doing the same online version?

The panagram was a medical term, but then it would not take OTIC.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 26, 2020, 09:14:03 AM
I'm up to 244. I did get the pangram, but am frustrated because 'coir' and 'doric' weren't accepted.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on October 26, 2020, 09:16:58 AM
I'm doing the free version so it cuts me off at "Solid" which in today's case was 58 points.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 26, 2020, 09:19:29 AM
I'm up to 244. I did get the pangram, but am frustrated because 'coir' and 'doric' weren't accepted.

Yeah, same, although I'm at a lowly 129 and convinced there's another pangram in there somewhere.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 26, 2020, 09:20:46 AM
I made it to genius plus a bit (284 points) so far, but although we have had these letters before it is a slog to try to remember all the words that will work.  I've found a couple avenues of inquiry that have led to some longer words but am giving it a rest for a bit.  And like many here, I am playing the game of "why is X not in the list but Y is?!"
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: evil_physics_witchcraft on October 26, 2020, 09:52:47 AM
I've been doing the free version also. It just isn't satisfying enough, so I may end up subscribing.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on October 26, 2020, 09:58:11 AM
I've been doing the free version also. It just isn't satisfying enough, so I may end up subscribing.

I'm not interested in the paid version, but I might pay to get LetterBoxed. Of course, then I'll spend my whole life with my face in my phone That game is seriously like crack.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 26, 2020, 10:17:27 AM
It isn't expensive if you get home delivery. I think I'm paying around $19 for the games (both crosswords, letter boxed, spelling bee, tiles, and a few others).
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 26, 2020, 10:21:43 AM
I pay 5 USD a month, which is good for all the puzzles.

I wouldn't shell out for the paper, because my opinion of its general quality is too low at this point. I fret a little about supporting them as it is, but it seems worth it for now just for the crossword, bee, and letterboxed.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on October 28, 2020, 05:48:18 AM
Got yesterday's pangram first off.  Just hit me instantly.  Downhill from there.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 28, 2020, 05:59:35 AM
Yesterday's pangram was my first word. I did get to Genius, but didn't get minimize or minimized.

Today's is one of those wordy ones that depend on related word forms. I made it to Genius, but it wasn't fun. The pangram was one of my last words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 28, 2020, 09:53:50 AM
Yesterday's was tough until I stumbled on the zigging, zagging, zigzag, zigzagging, etc.  We fell short of the final three words, geez, meze, and mezze (which I thought I had tried!).  Today's is another "bookkeeping" effort.  Make sure to get all the variations of each word! I think I am at about 238, so not too much more to genius, but as usual am now at a loss so am giving it a rest, briefly.  I haven't figured out the pangram yet, so maybe that will at least put me over the genius hump for now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 28, 2020, 10:07:07 AM
Surely it should have been 'geeze'.

Edit: got to genius, but since QB is 100 points away, that's never happening.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 28, 2020, 11:09:23 AM
I don't think it should have been in there at all!

Finally got to genius and got the pangram.  Looks like I have about 24 points left to get to QB, but I am worn out.  Hopefully we'll find the rest of the words once we compare what we have.  I have to wait until husband gets to genius, though.  Shouldn't be too long.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 31, 2020, 08:03:12 AM
Easy one today, with a nice little witch hat over the bee.

But I've been led to wonder: has anyone ever seen a puzzle with an 's' in it? I don't think I ever have.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on October 31, 2020, 08:30:58 AM
Made it to slightly over genius.

I don't recall seeing any puzzles with 's', but quite a few with 'e, d' and 'i, n, g'.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 31, 2020, 08:37:36 AM
I looped over genius with a total guess.  Hopefully I'll get to QB! Is that where the witch hat is? Thanks for mentioning it, because I probably would have completely missed it.

As for 's', I thought about that a while back and don't think I have ever seen an 's' in the puzzle.  Can't say for sure, but I have gone back through a bunch of word lists from before I started playing, and I haven't seen any there, either.  Maybe the solution list would just be way too long? And probably a pain in the neck to just have to go through and add 's' to everything.  Though there would be new words we don't usually get to find, too.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 31, 2020, 09:07:18 AM
I looped over genius with a total guess.  Hopefully I'll get to QB! Is that where the witch hat is? Thanks for mentioning it, because I probably would have completely missed it.


You get the hat at genius. I've not yet made it to QB, but I'm close.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on October 31, 2020, 09:41:10 AM
I looped over genius with a total guess.  Hopefully I'll get to QB! Is that where the witch hat is? Thanks for mentioning it, because I probably would have completely missed it.


You get the hat at genius. I've not yet made it to QB, but I'm close.

Mine doesn't seem to show a witch hat, but maybe spouse's does, as we are on different operating systems.  We made it to within about 6 points of QB but haven't gotten the final word or words yet.  Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on October 31, 2020, 10:30:30 AM
I looped over genius with a total guess.  Hopefully I'll get to QB! Is that where the witch hat is? Thanks for mentioning it, because I probably would have completely missed it.


You get the hat at genius. I've not yet made it to QB, but I'm close.

Mine doesn't seem to show a witch hat, but maybe spouse's does, as we are on different operating systems.  We made it to within about 6 points of QB but haven't gotten the final word or words yet.  Good luck!

It was just on the popup telling you you've hit genius. I imagine it'll show up again when you hit QB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 01, 2020, 05:14:25 AM
Got to genius. I'll have to look for the remaining words later.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 01, 2020, 07:59:40 AM
We didn't get to see the witch hat yesterday, but we did make it to QB with the help of the program finding the last two words (barb, which we should have gotten, and babka, which we always miss).  I keep thinking barback or rawbar might be in there, to no avail.

Today's didn't seem too rough but is taking me a while.  I have to finish the crossword first, and that is also taking longer than usual.  Maybe it's the time change, or maybe I need the coffee to set in more. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 02, 2020, 06:25:26 AM
I'm well above genius today but can't find the pangram. It's probably something easy, but I'm stumped.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 02, 2020, 08:04:30 AM
I'm well above genius today but can't find the pangram. It's probably something easy, but I'm stumped.

It's a tricky one to see.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 02, 2020, 08:45:33 AM
I actually saw the pangram right off today, though there have been a couple days recently in which I got to genius and still had no clue about the pangram.  I wonder if the letters all start out in the same arrangement for folks? Spouse and I paid attention to that early on (and whether shuffling the letters took them to the same new arrangement), but now I can't recall.  I do think the arrangement helps.  Keep shuffling! Today has been pretty easy for me so far, though I'm still about 15 points from QB.  Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 02, 2020, 10:51:36 AM
I found the pangram.

The arrangements seem to vary as I have different ones on the desktop and the kindle (I just checked). Shuffling does help as words just pop up in certain configurations.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 02, 2020, 10:56:09 AM
Hooray! Another thing that sometimes helps me is to just start typing sets of letters that should work.  A lot of times, it will lead me to remember a word that I didn't try yet.  YMMV.

Happily, between the two of us we got all but one point, and I managed to figure out the final (very simple) four-letter word for QB.  Thankfully, spouse remembered one of the ones we always forget.  Yesterday we managed to forget that darned callaloo.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 02, 2020, 11:12:50 AM
I do the typing of random letters too. This morning I tried to get the pangram by trying out words with un-. On rare occasions, random typing gives me words that I didn't know even existed. Today a perfectly legit word was rejected, presumably because SB thought it was naughty.

I got the spelling wrong with callaloo. The previous day I forgot abracadabra and crawdad.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 02, 2020, 11:52:45 AM
I go ahead and try words that might get rejected for being naughty, because there are plenty in there that I wouldn't personally add.  Sometimes I wonder if the app will delete itself if I enter anything too over the line.  Hasn't happened yet!

And I forgot to comment on abracadabra being in there the other day.  I was surprised when it was accepted but was glad to see it.  Actually, that was the word I was referring to when I said I guessed a word that looped me right past genius.  It felt like serendipity.

As for the pangram and trying letter sequences, I approach it similarly when it doesn't pop right out at me.  There are days when I just get stuck in a mental rut because particular prefixes, suffixes, or sequences occur a lot, and then I can't seem to think outside that box. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: evil_physics_witchcraft on November 03, 2020, 09:09:18 AM
I go ahead and try words that might get rejected for being naughty, because there are plenty in there that I wouldn't personally add.  Sometimes I wonder if the app will delete itself if I enter anything too over the line.  Hasn't happened yet!


That made me laugh.

Seriously considering subscribing now. I miss the days when I could do it for free!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 03, 2020, 09:16:27 AM
Plodded up to 83, but haven't found the pangram yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: evil_physics_witchcraft on November 03, 2020, 09:24:27 AM
Plodded up to 83, but haven't found the pangram yet.

I haven't found it either.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 03, 2020, 09:58:24 AM
It took me a long time to get the pangram, too.  But a weird coincidence (?) helped.  We ended up getting all but two words.  It's tough with that y in the middle!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 03, 2020, 10:08:12 AM
Plodded up to 83, but haven't found the pangram yet.

Yeah, I'm at 85 and pangramless for the time being.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 03, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
Finally got the pangram. Don't think I can attempt QB, given the commitment to watching election returns live. (Why we do it, I don't know.)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 03, 2020, 07:41:44 PM
I don't think I'm destined to get the pangram tonight. Must be the election related brain fog.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 03, 2020, 10:04:39 PM
Found it.  Made it to QB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 04, 2020, 06:39:24 AM
The coincidence (?) I was talking about yesterday was that the pangram and at least two other words were answers in the main crossword.  I don't think there is too much crossover in staff working on those, so maybe it was just meant to be.  If I hadn't just done the crossword, I definitely do not think I would have figured out the pangram for a long while, and probably only then from the trying random letters approach.

Today has been pretty easy so far, but I'm sure I will be eating those words soon.  Still 23 points from genius, plus we had to get up early. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 04, 2020, 06:46:34 AM
Today's isn't too bad. I found two pangrams which put me slightly above genius.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: evil_physics_witchcraft on November 04, 2020, 08:23:29 AM
The coincidence (?) I was talking about yesterday was that the pangram and at least two other words were answers in the main crossword.  I don't think there is too much crossover in staff working on those, so maybe it was just meant to be.  If I hadn't just done the crossword, I definitely do not think I would have figured out the pangram for a long while, and probably only then from the trying random letters approach.

Today has been pretty easy so far, but I'm sure I will be eating those words soon.  Still 23 points from genius, plus we had to get up early.

That's interesting about the crossword.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: evil_physics_witchcraft on November 04, 2020, 08:27:49 AM
Today's isn't too bad. I found two pangrams which put me slightly above genius.

I got one of them. :)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: evil_physics_witchcraft on November 04, 2020, 08:31:08 AM
Interesting that it won't accept 'chiral.'
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 04, 2020, 08:50:12 AM
The coincidence (?) I was talking about yesterday was that the pangram and at least two other words were answers in the main crossword.  I don't think there is too much crossover in staff working on those, so maybe it was just meant to be.  If I hadn't just done the crossword, I definitely do not think I would have figured out the pangram for a long while, and probably only then from the trying random letters approach.

Today has been pretty easy so far, but I'm sure I will be eating those words soon.  Still 23 points from genius, plus we had to get up early.

That's interesting about the crossword.

Sometimes I find the same clues across multiple crosswords for a few weeks - like the word is in the zeitgeist or something. Then it goes away.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 04, 2020, 08:51:29 AM
Today's isn't too bad. I found two pangrams which put me slightly above genius.

I got one of them. :)

I'm sure you'll find the other!

Still struggling along to genius.  Five more points to go.  Coffee does not seem to be helping today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 04, 2020, 08:56:00 AM
I just found the third one.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 04, 2020, 08:58:53 AM
I don't know if I'm happy or not to hear that there is another pangram hiding in the forest.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 04, 2020, 09:02:22 AM
Oooh, three! I only have two, and am not at genius yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 04, 2020, 09:04:44 AM
They aren't too difficult--one's a compound.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 04, 2020, 09:06:53 AM
Helpful to know! I finally dragged myself to exactly genius.  And totally feeling like one right now! Ugh.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 04, 2020, 12:15:45 PM
Woohoo! I got to QB all by my lonesome after being stuck on exactly genius forever.  And I tried a forumite's moniker, which appears to be a word but was not accepted.  Hmm! Or, should I say, pfft!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 04, 2020, 12:48:04 PM
Congrats!
I'm stuck at 117 points. I tried a forumite's moniker too, most likely the same one, as it wasn't accepted.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 04, 2020, 02:04:34 PM
Thanks! It helped to know there was another pangram to search for, although I had the one you had referred to (but was too sleep-deprived to realize it).  Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on November 05, 2020, 04:48:39 AM
They aren't too difficult--one's a compound.

I thought it rejected compounds.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 05, 2020, 05:30:07 AM
SB is inconsistent with its definitions. The word was archrival.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 05, 2020, 08:51:50 AM
Definitely inconsistent!

I did make it to genius but still have 20 points to QB and am flagging.  We'll see.  At least I'm feeling a little more alert today, but I think QB yesterday was a fluke.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 05, 2020, 09:54:09 AM
I made it to QB yesterday, late at night. I'm up to genius today. Not sure if I'll find any more words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 05, 2020, 10:10:22 AM
I made it to QB yesterday, late at night. I'm up to genius today. Not sure if I'll find any more words.

That's great.  What were the final words you found, out of curiosity? I think my final one was archaic.  We got to within 7 points of QB today after comparing lists but decided to run the programs so we can move on with things.   I don't think the word we had missed would have come easily, so probably a good decision.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 05, 2020, 10:49:37 AM
The last two words were cirri and caviar. I got cirri by typing letters at random and then saw caviar with the letters neatly laid out around the 'r'.  I found archival even before getting to solid.

What are the programs you're using to find the missing words?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 05, 2020, 11:05:01 AM
Ah, cirri is one of those in my "don't forget words that end with i" list.  Cirri, cocci, croci, etc.  There are so many that we get in one puzzle and then totally miss in another.  I think I got archival and then archrival soon after, or vice versa, but I'm not sure I would have found chivalric if you hadn't noted that there were three pangrams.

Husband and I each wrote programs in our "native languages" (mine is R), just as kind of a fun thing to do.  I am too rusty with R these days, so I figured it would be motivation to get back a few basic skills, at least.  My program makes a list of all possible 4 to 9 letter sequences consisting of subsets of the letter list with middle letter required and then checks against a dictionary to identify what it considers to be words.  Then I run subsets of the full list (regardless of whether they are words) against the word list I've accumulated from previous spelling bees.  I guess we could just look at the answers online, but maybe I'll eventually have enough words in my database that I won't need to.  Husband's program works a little differently.  To my thinking, his program basically scores the full dictionary (different dictionary than mine) and outputs any letter sequences that have the middle letter, > 3 letters, subsets of the letter list.  So, he gets a much longer list out of it, but it also tends to be able to capture all the words in the puzzle, whereas my approach doesn't always.  We run my first part (dictionary), then second (my word bank), then his if the list is not too long.  I'm not sure there is much point to this exercise, but if I don't get to QB one way or the other I tend to keep thinking about it all day.  Unfortunately, we can't find the exact dictionary that they use for the bee.  That would make life easier.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 05, 2020, 07:47:06 PM
Thanks for the detailed information. I'm not technologically savvy, alas, but will look into writing a similar program. I usually stop when I reach genius, unless I feel motivated or find the letter combinations intriguing. I don't think I have any energy tonight to look for more words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 05, 2020, 08:03:57 PM
I can't stop, or as I mentioned I will keep spinning the wheel in my head.  If you would like my admittedly crap and inelegant program, just PM me or something! I made it better through several stages, but then the ROI was incremental, so I stopped.  It's still pretty short and uses a dictionary package, so no need to add anything unless you want to do step 2 or want a bigger dictionary.  I never got to the point of trying to add other dictionaries because I used the online answers to supplement my step 2 database if I missed anything.  It's still not totally comprehensive, but you get what you pay for!

ETA: I could post the relevant code here, too.  It will be a drag, but maybe it will be useful.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 06, 2020, 04:23:33 AM
Thanks, I'll PM you over the weekend.

I made it to 136 words today, but have to take care of grading and other work-related matters. The pangram wasn't too difficult. I hope there's another one as that would get me to genius.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 06, 2020, 09:00:16 AM
Sure! I made it to just past genius so far today.  I have only found one pangram so far, though there were three the other days.  Good luck, in any case.

I felt pretty silly missing "augural" yesterday, as I had a calendar appointment that afternoon to attend a colleague's inaugural lecture as a distinguished professor.  I'm not sure I would have gotten it even if I had checked my calendar by then, though.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on November 07, 2020, 06:57:51 AM
Just got today's pangram (unless there's more than one) so will quit while I'm ahead!!!!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 07, 2020, 09:35:43 AM
Congrats!  I made it to genius plus a little and found a pangram but am now stuck again, as usual. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 07, 2020, 09:41:04 AM
I'm a dozen short of genius today, but expect to get there eventually. I'll try to remember to complain about a word that's not being counted.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 07, 2020, 10:40:43 AM
I'm slightly above genius, but have been stuck.

Stopped by for a quick look, now back to Canvas for another couple of hours.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 07, 2020, 10:46:01 AM
We compared lists and ended up having to run the program for the final three words. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 07, 2020, 04:52:09 PM
It's 131 today. I've given up.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 08, 2020, 11:56:00 AM
We finally got to QB without any aid.  I had gotten within 6 points and racked up another 3 after comparing lists, but it was a challenge to find those final three words.  Luckily, the pangram made itself known fairly early on.  Kind of a tough day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 08, 2020, 01:01:47 PM
I got the pangram early on--it was an academically appropriate word. I'm stuck at 188.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: OneMoreYear on November 08, 2020, 06:36:03 PM
I got the pangram as the 1st word, as I was taking a break from grading to do it.
Did not get all the words, though.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 09, 2020, 06:35:04 AM
I made it to 63--hurrah! The pangram was my last word. I'm not sure if I'll be able to find the remaining words.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 09, 2020, 07:42:00 AM
This morning it would not take TEFF which is a grain. Grr.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 09, 2020, 08:25:30 AM
Lots of weird words yesterday (epode, odea, ogee, yegg), and yet they wouldn't take 'elven'. I know Tolkein didn't like 'elven', but the fact is that it's a thing, now.


As for today... I'm stuck at 22 in 13 words for now.

EDIT: 37 in 14. Found the pangram.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 09, 2020, 09:37:36 AM
Yes, yesterday did have a lot of unusual words, and I also keep trying elven.  I ended up guessing epode and odea, and yegg is sometimes in the crossword.  Today I made it to genius in about 10 minutes, but I got lucky because I got the pangram fairly early on, and some of these words have been in the puzzle recently.  Then I got stuck, but I did finally make it to QB by guessing the final word.  I don't know if it feels like so much of an accomplishment if I have to guess, but maybe I heard the word somewhere.    I am thankful for a short word list that was not too bad today.  Given that I don't do much that's productive these, days, I will take it.  If only I could put it on my cv.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 09, 2020, 06:01:10 PM
Made it to 63 and found the pangram, but I don't think I can manage the further 160 points required for QB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 09, 2020, 06:55:36 PM
I don't think you need another 160 points as it was only 53 points to reach genius today.

I've been at 64 most of the day, and am not venturing any higher.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 09, 2020, 07:14:23 PM
I don't think you need another 160 points as it was only 53 points to reach genius today.

I've been at 64 most of the day, and am not venturing any higher.

QB is 223! (I checked when I gave up.)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 09, 2020, 07:21:29 PM
I didn't realize that there would be several more words in today's puzzle. I'll have to wait until tomorrow to see the list.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 09, 2020, 07:23:38 PM
Yeah, there are, like, 53 total or so. I'll keep trying tonight, but QB is way too far out of reach.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 10, 2020, 04:52:40 AM
Yesterday's puzzle was a very short list of words. I missed only two, befit which I should have known, and abaft which I didn't.

I just made it to slightly above genius. I'll have to wait until afternoon to look for the remaining words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 10, 2020, 07:58:17 AM
Weird. I must have screwed up when I checked.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 10, 2020, 08:02:26 AM
Yep, yesterday was only 23 words and 75 points.   On Sunday it was 229, so maybe something was messed up in the app?

I managed to get to QB again today, so either getting more sleep is helping, or I'm doing this too often (or just often enough?).  Luckily, it's another short list of words. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 10, 2020, 01:53:57 PM
Must be the sleep. Note to self: get to bed at a reasonable hour.

Congrats.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on November 11, 2020, 03:52:19 AM
Coit be not an acceptable word but dildo is.  Gotta love it!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 11, 2020, 06:35:51 AM
My sentiments exactly. Coition was rejected last week, as was clitic, which is an entirely unnaughty word. Must be the body part test on the part of SB; dildo isn't an anatomical noun or verb, hence gets past the SB censors.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 11, 2020, 08:46:44 AM
They do seem to make strange choices about what is appropriate or not, though the theory about the body part test is a good one. 

Today's is a longer list, and I have made it to genius and finally found the (a?) pangram, but it will probably take a while to make it much further.   Little victories, I guess!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 11, 2020, 08:51:06 AM
I just found the pangram, and have 144 points. A few more words and I'll make it to genius.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: evil_physics_witchcraft on November 11, 2020, 09:33:50 AM
Is there only one pangram today?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 11, 2020, 09:50:24 AM
Probably; I'll let you know if I find another.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 11, 2020, 10:29:01 AM
I can report that there are at least two pangrams today.  When spouse and I compared words, we had different ones, so that helped get our points up.  Still searching the database for the remaining words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 11, 2020, 12:23:29 PM
Found the second pangram!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 11, 2020, 12:47:45 PM
Found the second pangram!

Hurrah! I had to look at the answers for the final word (program turned up two others) but am now complete.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 11, 2020, 12:53:05 PM
Congrats!

I don't think I'll get there today. I'm four points short of 200, my target number for today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 11, 2020, 12:55:54 PM
Thanks, but I am not sure running programs and then actually looking at the answers is really a win.  We did get to 208 beforehand, though, I think.  I only made it to about 171 before that.  So you on good ground in my book.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 12, 2020, 05:55:41 AM
Made it to genius with 30 words and 97 points. It's a short list today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 12, 2020, 08:31:06 AM
Luckily the (?) pangram popped right out, but I still have about 20 points to go for QB.  I have run out of steam for now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: evil_physics_witchcraft on November 13, 2020, 10:02:09 AM
SO, verbalized the pangram from yesterday before I could even look at it. Grr. Today's pangram (just one?) jumped out at me.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 13, 2020, 10:48:56 AM
SO, verbalized the pangram from yesterday before I could even look at it. Grr. Today's pangram (just one?) jumped out at me.

Argh!! Sorry to hear about that.  Congrats on the pangram today! It jumped out at me too, luckily.  We had to look up the final word.  Yesterday we missed "twilit" (again).
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 13, 2020, 11:03:42 AM
I got to 101 this morning, and no pangram. I too missed twilit and tali, both of which I've seen in previous puzzles.

EPW, I hear you about having someone tell you the pangram before you found it.

Recovering from a trip to the grocery store--the employees don't know what the protocols are anymore. Aargh!!!!!

Edit: found the pangram.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 13, 2020, 11:43:01 AM
Glad you found the pangram, Langue_doc, and argh about the grocery store staff! I totally guessed tali yesterday, although I'm sure we've had it before.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 16, 2020, 07:52:31 AM
It's a wordy one today. Despite the two pangrams, I'm still 37 points short of genius.

I missed only two yesterday-- elegize and elegized.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 16, 2020, 08:58:07 AM
That's great, Langue_doc! I am in a similar place today, though it looks like about 40 points for me left to go.  I felt like I was doing pretty well, but it definitely is a wordy one!

Yesterday when we went to compare lists, we both had the same number of words, but husband was only one point away from QB.  I gave him a hint, because I suspected which one he was missing, so he got QB.  It was "geez" again.   I was missing "dizzied".   We were both stumped on why "deglaze" and "deglazed" wouldn't be in there.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 16, 2020, 09:05:41 AM
ab_grp, I was stumped by deglaze and deglazed as well. I even googled the words just to make sure that I wasn't imagining things! I got dizzied not because I thought that it was an actual word, but just because I tried that particular configuration.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 16, 2020, 09:16:19 AM
It was "geez" again.  [...] We were both stumped on why "deglaze" and "deglazed" wouldn't be in there.

ab_grp, I was stumped by deglaze and deglazed as well. I even googled the words just to make sure that I wasn't imagining things! I got dizzied not because I thought that it was an actual word, but just because I tried that particular configuration.

No kidding! Me three (four?)!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 16, 2020, 09:20:39 AM
Yep, we deglaze pans while cooking, and I looked it up, too! Sometimes I am sure something is a word, only to find out it is not or that I have spelled it incorrectly.  But that one seemed pretty obvious.  I noticed while posting earlier that deglaze and deglazed both get red lines under them, so maybe they aren't considered to be official words? Though so geez also got the red line.  And if they can have all sorts of stuff like fanfic, which also gets the red line, I would think a common-enough term like deglaze could be included.   I just now looked at various relevant Twitter accounts and see that we were not the only ones unhappy with that omission and that deglaze is in Merriam-Webster.  Sam Ezersky replied and indicated that deglaze and deglazed would be included in the future.

As for dizzied, I got so used to adding "d" or "ed" to words that were in the list without them that I fell into the trap of not thinking about words not in the list that could be if they were changed and that was added.  Usually I'm better about that because I have fallen into that trap before and learned from it, but I guess I just didn't get there yesterday.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 16, 2020, 09:21:15 AM
Parasaurolophus, welcome to the club.

Not recognizing deglaze, especially this time of the year when people are thinking about making gravy, is a cardinal sin.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 18, 2020, 07:21:34 AM
I missed helve yesterday. I don't see myself telling someone to hold the helve of their hammer or to be careful when holding the helve of their ax or hatchet!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 18, 2020, 08:38:09 AM
We missed helve, too. And halva and halvah.  And it took a rather stupid amount of time for us to get the pangram, given that we were sitting on the front patio, drinking coffee, facing our Chevy Avalanche.  I realized that after I had found the pangram, and spouse did not get it until later in the day.  Oh well!

I managed to get to QB today after being stuck on a final 5-letter word.  Today's seemed a bit easier to me.  At least there didn't seem to be any really esoteric words included.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 18, 2020, 10:53:04 AM
Six short of genius today, and haven't found the pangram yet.

Perhaps when I do find it, it'll unleash a torrent of other words and I can get QB. I can't be too far off.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: reener06 on November 19, 2020, 09:35:32 AM
Yesterday the damn pangram took forever and then just showed my gender biases.

Today I got it as the first word. Must've been the 'x' or something. But short of getting queen bee and I got little sleep last night so I'm satisfied with being a genius. Of sorts.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 19, 2020, 10:19:17 AM
I had some trouble with the pangram yesterday, too.  I got noble and ennoble, then finally noblemen.  Luckily the light bulb clicked on! But they are so inconsistent about when they include both men and women.   The final word I got was melee.  I get too hung up on more typical letter combos.

It took a bit to get the (?) pangram today, but I made it to about 17 points short of QB.  Now I am stuck again.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 19, 2020, 12:18:30 PM
I made it to QB yesterday. I got the pangram early on, as I remembered previous puzzles that allowed compounds containing men and women. As for today, I got stuck on 49 points this morning. I'll have to tackle the rest later.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 21, 2020, 06:09:13 AM
Short and easy one today; made it to QB!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 21, 2020, 07:38:35 AM
Yes, very easy today. But since my skills have been deteriorating, it's a welcome reset!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 21, 2020, 08:53:30 AM
Man! I came here thinking everyone would be saying how hard today's is.  Congrats to both of you! For whatever reason, this one is taking me a while.  I am at 60 points, but the last bit is escaping me, so I will do some other things and hope the coffee kicks in.  Today's crossword was also made by the Spelling Bee guy, and that was also a bear, even for a Saturday puzzle. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 22, 2020, 06:27:56 PM
Well, if it's any consolation, I'm still 33 short of genius today! =p
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 22, 2020, 07:35:58 PM
The y makes it difficult to find words. Think of a couple of slangy expressions, email, and noise.

Not sure if these are American rather than North American expressions; the y doesn't have to be at the end.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 22, 2020, 07:53:45 PM
Did it in the end!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 22, 2020, 07:58:15 PM
Woohoo!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 23, 2020, 07:28:37 AM
I made it to genius, but can't find the pangram.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 23, 2020, 08:09:18 AM
I'm doing yesterday's in the NYT Magazine. Found the panagram fairly early but am completely stuck at Excellent (17) and so far away from Genius (26) that I'm wondering when that breakthrough will happen.

The rules and scoring is different on these.

NCEHORV are the letters - N is the required one. Words must be 5 letters or longer and each is worth 1 point. Panagram is 3 points.

8 = good; 17 = excellent; 26 = genius.

Feel free to play along at home, folks. I'd rather get tips from you than look at the answers.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 23, 2020, 08:43:57 AM
We finally got to QB yesterday after I found the final "word"... anyhoo.  Ugh.  Husband found wanna and wannabe the day before. 

Today I have about 26 points left to QB but am running out of steam.  Got the (a?) pangram, but it took a bit. 

I'm doing yesterday's in the NYT Magazine. Found the panagram fairly early but am completely stuck at Excellent (17) and so far away from Genius (26) that I'm wondering when that breakthrough will happen.

The rules and scoring is different on these.

NCEHORV are the letters - N is the required one. Words must be 5 letters or longer and each is worth 1 point. Panagram is 3 points.

8 = good; 17 = excellent; 26 = genius.

Feel free to play along at home, folks. I'd rather get tips from you than look at the answers.

Interesting! I will see what list I can come up with and what tips might come from that.  ETA: I am assuming letters can be repeated in this one as well.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 23, 2020, 09:13:31 AM
We finally got to QB yesterday after I found the final "word"... anyhoo.  Ugh.  Husband found wanna and wannabe the day before. 

Today I have about 26 points left to QB but am running out of steam.  Got the (a?) pangram, but it took a bit. 

I'm doing yesterday's in the NYT Magazine. Found the panagram fairly early but am completely stuck at Excellent (17) and so far away from Genius (26) that I'm wondering when that breakthrough will happen.

The rules and scoring is different on these.

NCEHORV are the letters - N is the required one. Words must be 5 letters or longer and each is worth 1 point. Panagram is 3 points.

8 = good; 17 = excellent; 26 = genius.

Feel free to play along at home, folks. I'd rather get tips from you than look at the answers.

Interesting! I will see what list I can come up with and what tips might come from that.  ETA: I am assuming letters can be repeated in this one as well.

Yes, letters can be repeated. Ooh, fun! Feel free to start posting words you find, if you don't think that ruins the game.

If you ask, I will share the panagram I found and any words starting with a letter of your choice.


Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 23, 2020, 09:23:54 AM
I found the pangram and a couple of words which brings my total to 5. I usually find words when I can shuffle the letters.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 23, 2020, 10:02:11 AM
I got one pangram and 17 other things I think are words in the game posted by ciao_yall.  I'm not sure if they count, though.  It's hard when you can't shuffle letters or try answers. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 23, 2020, 10:36:50 AM
I'll scan the page referred to by ciao_yall later tonight. The visual layout results in more words. I found the pangram early on, but now that I'm looking at the page, I'm finding more words.

Back to grading, alas.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 23, 2020, 12:29:21 PM
I got one pangram and 17 other things I think are words in the game posted by ciao_yall.  I'm not sure if they count, though.  It's hard when you can't shuffle letters or try answers.

If it can be found in the dictionary, it counts. We're on the honor system.

I'm at 23 right now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 23, 2020, 03:10:08 PM
I don't think I can attach files here. I do have the scanned page. If anyone know if and how files can be attached to these posts, please let me know.

I'm still looking for the elusive pangram in today's SB.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 23, 2020, 03:14:26 PM
I still haven't figured out how to add an attachment in posts or PMs, but I haven't had time to look into it too carefully yet.  It says "Attachments and other options" under the reply window, but I don't see any way to add an attachment.  That option might have been turned off by admins, if it existed?

As for the pangram in today's bee, let me know if you want a hint (first letter or whatever).  It would be neat if we could change the font color (e.g., to white) so it could be invisible until highlighted. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 23, 2020, 03:32:09 PM
I'm at 22 now. I put in a word that didn't have an N in it.

The word was REVERE.

I have:

POINTS / STARTING LETTER
3 / (panagram, not telling, but I suspect there might be two?)
3 / N
7 / C
1 / E
4 / H
1 / O
2 / R
1 / V
------
22


Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 23, 2020, 03:56:47 PM
Stealing your structure and just modifying for my number of each, so far I (think I) have:
POINTS / STARTING LETTER
3 / (panagram, not telling, but I suspect there might be two?)
3 / N
6 / C
1 / E
6 / H
1 / O (not sure... looks like it's supposed to be hyphenated)
2 / R
0 / V
------
22

Three of my words have red lines under them, but I did look them up, and they appear to have dictionary entries.  I had to keep updating this tally, because while I was looking for a V word I found a couple others. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 23, 2020, 04:02:24 PM
Stealing your structure and just modifying for my number of each, so far I (think I) have:
POINTS / STARTING LETTER
3 / (panagram, not telling, but I suspect there might be two?)
3 / N
6 / C
1 / E
6 / H
1 / O (not sure... looks like it's supposed to be hyphenated)
2 / R
0 / V
------
22

Three of my words have red lines under them, but I did look them up, and they appear to have dictionary entries.  I had to keep updating this tally, because while I was looking for a V word I found a couple others.

Yes, if it's in the dictionary it counts. Huh, you have two more H words than me.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 23, 2020, 04:03:44 PM
POINTS / STARTING LETTER
3 / (panagram, not telling, but I suspect there might be two?)
3 / N
7 / C
1 / E
5 / H
1 / O
2 / R
1 / V
------
22 23
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 23, 2020, 04:19:58 PM
Okay, I did some research, figuring there has to be some app or something that allows customization to be able to shuffle the letters.  I found the "Letter Hive" app (available at least for iOS), which I downloaded.  It lets you create custom puzzles, enter the required letter, enter the remaining letters.  I did this with the paper bee's letters, and it let me shuffle them, enter words just like in the online bee, etc.  Got me a few more words, in fact! Like the online bee, the app requires only that words be at least four letters (not five).  But it could still be a useful tool if you want to be able to shuffle the letters and check to see if words are in that list, at least.  And you could also enter four letter words for more fun if you would like. My O word was not accepted, for example.  Aside from the custom puzzles, it also makes other letter combo puzzles available, so if you are done with the bee and jonesing for more, more you shall have.

For those interested in aspects related to solving programs, I also found this: http://varianceexplained.org/r/honeycomb-puzzle/  It focuses on efficient computation in R to find which 7-letter "honeycomb" would result in the highest total score.  But, along the way there is some interesting stuff on approaches to solving the puzzle.  They use a different dictionary than the program I wrote.  I can't remember if my husband uses this particular list in his. 

Now I have added another C, subtracted an O, and have found no Vs yet.  Still at 22.  Hopefully the app will help me visualize this!   
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 23, 2020, 04:44:59 PM
I still haven't figured out how to add an attachment in posts or PMs, but I haven't had time to look into it too carefully yet.  It says "Attachments and other options" under the reply window, but I don't see any way to add an attachment.  That option might have been turned off by admins, if it existed?

As for the pangram in today's bee, let me know if yount a hint (first letter or whatever).  It would be neat if we could change the font color (e.g., to white) so it could be invisible until highlighted.

Thanks, the first letter would be helpful.

I got sidetracked doing the crossword, which as usual was an easy one on Mondays.

I too  tried the "attachments" link, but nothing happened.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 23, 2020, 06:05:59 PM
I still haven't figured out how to add an attachment in posts or PMs, but I haven't had time to look into it too carefully yet.  It says "Attachments and other options" under the reply window, but I don't see any way to add an attachment.  That option might have been turned off by admins, if it existed?

As for the pangram in today's bee, let me know if yount a hint (first letter or whatever).  It would be neat if we could change the font color (e.g., to white) so it could be invisible until highlighted.

Thanks, the first letter would be helpful.

I got sidetracked doing the crossword, which as usual was an easy one on Mondays.

I too  tried the "attachments" link, but nothing happened.

Found the pangram.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 23, 2020, 10:44:59 PM
I believe all attachments are off.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 24, 2020, 08:10:11 AM
I believe all attachments are off.

Thanks! That's good to know.  Maybe there are other options for sharing docs. 

Sorry I didn't get back about the pangram first letter, but I'm glad you found it, Langue_doc! There are days when I get caught up in the crossword, too. 

I think I am about 6 points shy of QB today but am feeling tapped out.  Maybe I'll get a second or third wind.  If not, I'll try out the solver feature in that letter hive app and compare to what my program produces.  Maybe I'll also try out the code in that blog post I linked to.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 24, 2020, 08:22:55 AM
Letterboxed is free today!

Okay, won't see you all for a few days...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 24, 2020, 08:39:56 AM
Letterboxed - starting us off with a hard one. I can usually, after a few tries, at least solve it with 10-11 words but there is an oddly placed W, plus a J that is getting me stuck.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 24, 2020, 09:15:55 AM
GOT IT IN 2 WORDS!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 24, 2020, 11:01:41 AM
I believe all attachments are off.

Thanks! That's good to know.  Maybe there are other options for sharing docs. 

Sorry I didn't get back about the pangram first letter, but I'm glad you found it, Langue_doc! There are days when I get caught up in the crossword, too. 

I think I am about 6 points shy of QB today but am feeling tapped out.  Maybe I'll get a second or third wind.  If not, I'll try out the solver feature in that letter hive app and compare to what my program produces.  Maybe I'll also try out the code in that blog post I linked to.

I made it to 183 points and then got stuck.

GOT IT IN 2 WORDS!



Congrats!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 24, 2020, 11:09:57 AM
I got one pangram and 17 other things I think are words in the game posted by ciao_yall.  I'm not sure if they count, though.  It's hard when you can't shuffle letters or try answers.

If it can be found in the dictionary, it counts. We're on the honor system.

I'm at 23 right now.

Here are the words: chevron (pangram), cocoon, coherence, concern, conch, convene, corner, coroner, coven, crone, croon, crooner, encore, hence, heron, honcho, honor, honoree, neocon, nerve, never, nonce, recon, reconvene, reverence, veneer. If you found words not on this list, you are allowed to include them in your score.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 24, 2020, 05:07:53 PM
I believe all attachments are off.

Thanks! That's good to know.  Maybe there are other options for sharing docs. 

Sorry I didn't get back about the pangram first letter, but I'm glad you found it, Langue_doc! There are days when I get caught up in the crossword, too. 

I think I am about 6 points shy of QB today but am feeling tapped out.  Maybe I'll get a second or third wind.  If not, I'll try out the solver feature in that letter hive app and compare to what my program produces.  Maybe I'll also try out the code in that blog post I linked to.

I made it to 183 points and then got stuck.

GOT IT IN 2 WORDS!



Congrats!

Thank you. The C, J, and W are all used in odd ways.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on November 25, 2020, 04:44:38 AM
Is there any way to know if there is more than one pangram?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 25, 2020, 05:48:58 AM
I found only one. It's a slow and tedious puzzle today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 25, 2020, 07:48:38 AM
Is this the one with an "I" in the middle? It took a word I thought would be a foreign word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 25, 2020, 08:24:40 AM
Got Letterboxed in 2 already. Came slowly, then all of a sudden.

Well, now what am I gonna do the rest of the day?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: OneMoreYear on November 25, 2020, 08:28:03 AM
Is there any way to know if there is more than one pangram?

If you go to the Spelling bee answers page https://www.nytbee.com/ it will tell you how many pangrams and how many words. You have to click on the show answers link to actually see the answers, so the answers are not spoiled if you just want to know how many pangrams there are.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 25, 2020, 08:36:19 AM
Is this the one with an "I" in the middle? It took a word I thought would be a foreign word.

That's the one. It didn't accept fortition.

It's 165 scores for genius.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 25, 2020, 09:21:16 AM
It seems to be hit or miss whether various foods and/or foreign words will be accepted today.  I'm at 174 but really plodding along now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 26, 2020, 08:19:17 AM
Wouldn't take MARL this morning.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 26, 2020, 08:38:27 AM
I was wondering why they wouldn't take nori yesterday but would take roti.  And of course, callaloo is always a bee favorite.  Is it because the word is Japanese? I don't understand some of the distinctions at times.

About 20 more points to QB today and taking a break from it. 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 26, 2020, 08:41:37 AM
Letterboxed - solved with 3 a few times, but not getting close to 2. I need that long word that eats up a lot of letters.

Yesterday I solved with SUBATOMIC-CURVY but they had BOMBASTIC-CURVY. So we both duplicated a letter.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 26, 2020, 08:45:15 AM
I'm going to have to try Letterboxed again.  It just hasn't clicked for me in the past, for whatever reason.  Do  you have any tips for how to approach solving? It seems like you could just start at any of the letters, but my mind can't seem to handle that many degrees of freedom.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 26, 2020, 09:50:25 AM
I'm going to have to try Letterboxed again.  It just hasn't clicked for me in the past, for whatever reason.  Do  you have any tips for how to approach solving? It seems like you could just start at any of the letters, but my mind can't seem to handle that many degrees of freedom.

I look for long words first, and try to use up weird letters early. That may not be the best strategy, though!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 26, 2020, 12:27:58 PM
Thanks! I have tried today's a few times.  The first time, I found a longer word later on, so the second time I tried with that one first.  But I realized that it's probably better to try to find a pangram of sorts rather than reusing letters? Does anyone know if there is something similar to the bee solver page that says what the minimum possible words is? That's probably a dumb question.  I'll look for one later but will keep trying different assortments.  My minimum so far is three words.  I keep getting boxed into a corner with having to start with a letter that doesn't let me use up the other remaining letters very well, so I'll have to work on that.  I also tend to go clockwise, so I guess I'll have to try to think more broadly about where to start and how to move between sides. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on November 26, 2020, 02:09:08 PM
Is there any way to know if there is more than one pangram?

If you go to the Spelling bee answers page https://www.nytbee.com/ it will tell you how many pangrams and how many words. You have to click on the show answers link to actually see the answers, so the answers are not spoiled if you just want to know how many pangrams there are.

Thanks.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 26, 2020, 09:18:23 PM
I'm going to have to try Letterboxed again.  It just hasn't clicked for me in the past, for whatever reason.  Do  you have any tips for how to approach solving? It seems like you could just start at any of the letters, but my mind can't seem to handle that many degrees of freedom.

I look for long words first, and try to use up weird letters early. That may not be the best strategy, though!

Yes, me too. Find words that eat up a lot of letters, or odd combinations. Sometimes just consuming a bunch of letters then staring at what is left helps.

I start off playing around, then find some good words that use a lot of letters, then keep going.

Today's? I have yet to solve lower than 3 words. But hey, apparently the goal was 6 words or fewer, so I guess that's kind of a win?

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 27, 2020, 07:42:06 AM
Got today's right quick. Now for QB...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 27, 2020, 09:10:39 AM
Letterboxed - solving with 3 pretty easily. Now, 2? I'd be there now if it wasn't for the letters on the same side.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 28, 2020, 06:53:24 AM
I can usually solve Letter Boxed with three words, but managed to get all the letters in just two words yesterday.

I got the pangram early on the last few days, and made it to QB yesterday. As for today's puzzle, I have 143 points--got the pangram while still on 'solid'.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 28, 2020, 09:28:06 AM
I will have to keep practicing at Letterboxed! I manage to get in under the target number of words, but there's still more to aim for.

For the bee today, it took me a while to find a pangram.  Then I got to genius and was stuck for a bit.  Then I stumbled on a couple words, and now I'm at about 27 points from QB.  We'll see.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 28, 2020, 10:22:14 AM
It took me a lot of practicing to get to three words in Letter-Boxed. There are days when I've just given up as my goal for this puzzle is three words (or four if I'm desperate). Today's was quite easy, so I managed to get all the letters into two words.

I don't think I'll get to QB today as there are the crosswords from Thursday and Friday that I haven't even looked at.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 28, 2020, 10:45:33 AM
Yesterday I did get to 2 - it was pretty straightforward once I got my head around it.

Spelling bee wouldn't take TEFF this morning.

Okay, off to today's Letterboxed!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 28, 2020, 11:19:18 AM
It took me a lot of practicing to get to three words in Letter-Boxed. There are days when I've just given up as my goal for this puzzle is three words (or four if I'm desperate). Today's was quite easy, so I managed to get all the letters into two words.

I don't think I'll get to QB today as there are the crosswords from Thursday and Friday that I haven't even looked at.

3 words is coming pretty easily today. The J is driving me batty.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 28, 2020, 12:08:16 PM
I got three words in Letterboxed today after starting over and trying to get a word with a J first to get it out of the way.  But if it can be done in two, I want to give that a shot!

We did get to QB after comparing our lists today.  As for the crossword, I have been so off this week with regard to which day it is, so I thought today was Monday instead of Saturday.  At least it wasn't a typically difficult Saturday! If you are talking about NYT, Langue_doc, good luck with Thursday and Friday.  They took me a little while longer than today's.


ETA: Okay, I managed to wrangle Letterboxed in two words! But I actually did not know the second one was a word.  I had a word in mind, but two of the consecutive letters were on the same side, so I decided to just try without the one, and I guess it ended up being a correct answer. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 28, 2020, 12:30:12 PM
As for the J, think vehicle, plural, and then you can get the second word. I'm typing this on my Kindle, which promptly mangled both your names.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 28, 2020, 12:46:15 PM
As for the J, think vehicle, plural, and then you can get the second word. I'm typing this on my Kindle, which promptly mangled both your names.

Yeah I had a pretty good first word using up the J. Then I just played around and got a second word which I didn't think was a word, either.

ETA: And, the second word isn't in the merriam-webster dictionary, either.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 28, 2020, 01:05:09 PM
As for the J, think vehicle, plural, and then you can get the second word. I'm typing this on my Kindle, which promptly mangled both your names.

Ooh, I found your word, which definitely sets up a better second word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 28, 2020, 01:07:19 PM
My second word is a commonly used one. I'll post both words tomorrow.

ETA I think we both posted our replies at the same time.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 28, 2020, 01:33:33 PM
Thanks for the vehicle hint, Langue_doc! I was also able to identify that one with your help and find a second word that worked.  I'll be interested to see what we each came up with for the two words.  Hopefully I can remember which ones I found earlier.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on November 29, 2020, 04:22:47 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/crosswords/spellingbee-puzzles.html
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on November 29, 2020, 05:08:45 AM
Found pangram first!  It will be downhill from here!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 29, 2020, 08:58:33 AM
The pangram jumped right out at me today, too! Now I'm at a little over genius and in diminishing returns again.  Time to do other things and let see if that helps. 

For the Letterboxed from yesterday, my initial two-word solve entries were jailers and spotch.  I was going for splotch, but I guess p and l were on the same side, so I figured I'd try spotch to use up the remaining letters, and it worked, though it is not a word I have heard of.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 29, 2020, 01:19:13 PM
I got the pangram quite early, then made it to genius and got stuck.

As for today's Letter-Boxed, I found two separate words for J, but couldn't get the rest of the letters into a single word, so it looks like a three-word solution for me.

Thank you, ab_grp, for posting the two words. These were most likely ciao_yall's words as well.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 29, 2020, 01:57:34 PM
I got the pangram quite early, then made it to genius and got stuck.

As for today's Letter-Boxed, I found two separate words for J, but couldn't get the rest of the letters into a single word, so it looks like a three-word solution for me.

Thank you, ab_grp, for posting the two words. These were most likely ciao_yall's words as well.

Yesterday I had been thinking about the vehicle word (darn, no Y) until you pointed out that it could be plural. Yes, I also had JAILERS and SPOTCH.

The two-word solution uses several hard letters in one word. I had several options for the other word, either starting or ending.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 29, 2020, 01:59:25 PM
Thanks for the hint!

ETA Two words, finally, a flower and a word  that reminds me of Christmas carols.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 29, 2020, 04:17:46 PM
Thanks for the hint!

ETA Two words, finally, a flower and a word  that reminds me of Christmas carols.

Really? I had a unit of energy and something that reminded me of orthodontia.

ETA: I found one flower. Now my husband thinks I'm insane singing Christmas carols trying to come up with inspiration for the second word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 29, 2020, 04:19:43 PM
Okay, these Letterboxed hints are cracking me up.  I'll have to go have a try at 2 words and see if I can figure out which words you each have.

For the bee, we compared lists and got within 2 words of it.  Definitely should have gotten one of them given another word we tried, but I don't feel bad about the final word.

ETA: just got ciao_yall's, I think.  The orthodontia part came to me first and then I just worked with the letters that were left and made sure it ended with the first letter of the orthodontia word.  Now onto a flower and Christmas carols.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 29, 2020, 05:31:59 PM
I found the energy word, but not the orthodontia one.

Yesterday, SB rejected folate, but accepted fellate which was surprising.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 29, 2020, 07:54:20 PM
I found the energy word, but not the orthodontia one.


Maybe think about tiling?

I have found 3 flowers but none queue up anything remotely related to Christmas.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 29, 2020, 08:39:25 PM
I'll PM you.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 30, 2020, 05:00:37 AM
I found two pangrams today.

ab_grp and ciao_yall, what were your LetterBoxed words? Mine were larkspur and rejoice. I got jalousies initially but couldn't fit the remaining letters into a single word. Then I tried the hard letters suggested by ciao_yall, and came up with larkspur.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on November 30, 2020, 07:59:31 AM
The Bee seemed pretty easy today. I also found two pangrams. Yesterday rejected 'immanent'.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 30, 2020, 09:11:37 AM
Same thought here with yesterday's bee not taking folate but taking fellate.  We got within one word of QB today and felt pretty dumb about it.  Pretty easy, but a lot of bookkeeping!

I couldn't find a flower, either! All the flowers I came up with were missing a letter.  Didn't even think of rejoice.  I tried precious at one point.  The only two-word solution I got was what I think were ciao_yall's, kilojoules and spacer.  Spacer was easier, so I wrote down the remaining letters and made sure to put the s at the end.  I haven't tried today's yet. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 30, 2020, 09:51:26 AM
I found two pangrams today.

ab_grp and ciao_yall, what were your LetterBoxed words? Mine were larkspur and rejoice. I got jalousies initially but couldn't fit the remaining letters into a single word. Then I tried the hard letters suggested by ciao_yall, and came up with larkspur.

Looks like you got the official answer! I didn't know there was a flower called larkspur, though there is a town north of us with that name, so guess that's just my ignorance of the natural world coming through.

Yes, kilojoules and spacer were my words.

Today I would have so many great words if it wasn't for the darn "same side" rule.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on November 30, 2020, 05:44:07 PM
Plenty of threefers, but the two is eluding me...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on November 30, 2020, 06:24:23 PM
Same here.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on November 30, 2020, 07:11:06 PM
Yep! I really stared at it a while this afternoon, but I couldn't get to two.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 01, 2020, 07:13:57 AM
We had to get up "nice" and early today, and I managed to get the crosswords done and QB by the time my husband left.  I was 5 points away and stymied but finally got the last word.  I feel so accomplished and now don't know what to do with the rest of my day.   Besides a lot of box emptying and file sorting.  And Letterboxed!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 01, 2020, 07:41:42 AM
Spelling Bee wouldn't take MILT.

Letterboxed yesterday - WTF?

Okay, let's try for today.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 01, 2020, 07:54:45 AM
Spelling Bee wouldn't take MILT.

Letterboxed yesterday - WTF?

Okay, let's try for today.

Or bitty.

Congrats, ab_grp.

I found both pangrams today and made it to above genius. I usually do the mini crossword before retiring, and the crossword sometime in the afternoon. I looked at Letterboxed, and didn't think I could fit all the letters into two words, but we'll see.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 01, 2020, 08:02:27 AM
Thanks, Langue_doc! The mini crossword is my warm up for the regular crossword.   Doesn't always help, but at least Tuesdays are not too bad in general.

I tried Letterboxed and got it in 3 words but agree that 2 might be tough.  I kind of wish you could bank previous solutions somewhere.  I'll just write them down as I go.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 01, 2020, 08:05:08 AM
The mini is my 10 PM break on weekdays.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 01, 2020, 08:26:40 AM
Thanks, Langue_doc! The mini crossword is my warm up for the regular crossword.   Doesn't always help, but at least Tuesdays are not too bad in general.

I tried Letterboxed and got it in 3 words but agree that 2 might be tough.  I kind of wish you could bank previous solutions somewhere.  I'll just write them down as I go.

Yesterday was driving me crazy - I found MORPHS and then would have finished it with SUNLIGHT if it wasn't for all the letters being on the same side.

Today's - managed to get 2. Not sure if it's the official solution, but it worked.

I have recommended to them that they keep a running log of found words somewhere so you can go back and refer. Maybe it would use up too much memory?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 01, 2020, 08:54:31 AM
I think I was going along the same lines as you yesterday with morphs and trying to get sunlight! So many times I need consecutive letters that happen to be on the same side.  I saw their answer for yesterday and wasn't anywhere near those words.  Any hints for two words today? As for storing previous words or solutions, I don't know what that would require.  I'm not sure why it wouldn't be similar to the bee, though maybe it would store solutions rather than individual words.  Each time you use up all the letters, it just goes on the list.   There may be more to it than that, of course.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 01, 2020, 09:22:37 AM
I may have gotten MONTH somewhere along the way, but the M and H weren't doing me any favors.

Hint for today.

"What an interesting exercise it has been, watching how various factions handle mask mandates."
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 01, 2020, 09:32:36 AM
Easy Bee today, leaving me with energy for letter boxed.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 01, 2020, 12:44:34 PM
I may have gotten MONTH somewhere along the way, but the M and H weren't doing me any favors.

Hint for today.

"What an interesting exercise it has been, watching how various factions handle mask mandates."

I'm still stumped. Now if it weren't for that pesky z, I could have fitted the letters into two words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 01, 2020, 01:04:41 PM
I may have gotten MONTH somewhere along the way, but the M and H weren't doing me any favors.

Hint for today.

"What an interesting exercise it has been, watching how various factions handle mask mandates."

I'm still stumped. Now if it weren't for that pesky z, I could have fitted the letters into two words.

I'm still stuck at 3 as well.  I finally got around to looking to see if there's anything that gives more information (e.g., is there always a solution that consists of only two words?), but I haven't located that in the articles I've read about it, and it doesn't appear in the Help items.   Guess I'll keep trying to think of more words with z.  I thought I had hit upon a good approach, but it hasn't panned out yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 01, 2020, 02:25:22 PM
Finished the crossword, and made it to QB.

I'm still stuck on LetterBoxed, but I think I've done my good deeds for the day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 01, 2020, 02:42:23 PM
Wooha! I just got Letterboxed in two words. 

Hint for today.

"What an interesting exercise it has been, watching how various factions handle mask mandates."

I am still trying to figure out what this hint means.  My mind keeps trying to parse it like this pi mnemonic (just an example I found online and have not checked for accuracy): “How I need a drink, alcoholic of course, after the heavy lectures involving quantum mechanics.”  Or, the first letters of the words might spell something illuminating out.  That hasn't worked yet, either.  My mind is definitely a little foggy today. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 01, 2020, 02:59:58 PM
Got it down to two. My first word is alphabet related. There are several possibilities and permutations, once you get a variant of the first word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 01, 2020, 03:06:02 PM
Your first word sounds like it might be a variant of my second word.  I had initially had it first but figured I'd try changing it a little and switching to second, and that made it easier for me to find a new first word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 01, 2020, 05:03:07 PM
Wooha! I just got Letterboxed in two words. 

Hint for today.

"What an interesting exercise it has been, watching how various factions handle mask mandates."

I am still trying to figure out what this hint means.  My mind keeps trying to parse it like this pi mnemonic (just an example I found online and have not checked for accuracy): “How I need a drink, alcoholic of course, after the heavy lectures involving quantum mechanics.”  Or, the first letters of the words might spell something illuminating out.  That hasn't worked yet, either.  My mind is definitely a little foggy today.

Maybe this is a bit clearer?


"What an interesting exercise it has been, watching how various factions handle tax loopholes."
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 01, 2020, 05:04:21 PM
Got it down to two. My first word is alphabet related. There are several possibilities and permutations, once you get a variant of the first word.

Yes, I found a first word that would be alphabet related but can't quite get the second in that scenario.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 01, 2020, 05:45:17 PM
Try using the past tense. I think the second word was also in the past tense.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 01, 2020, 06:29:18 PM
After my first solution, I'm doing okay with the Z but now the P is driving me bats. It's one or the other!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 01, 2020, 07:08:49 PM
I still don't get the hint! Sorry, I will keeping thinking and will try to take advantage of the hint (hint, hint!).
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 02, 2020, 09:22:07 AM
Spelling Bee would not take LIMNAL

Yesterday's Letterboxed: My words were POLITICIZE-EVADER

Exercise and factions were supposed to cue "politicize" and masks, taxes were supposed to cue "evader."

I had ZED-DECORATIVE but that left the L and P.



Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 02, 2020, 09:57:52 AM
My words were capitalized and devote (or devoted, I don't remember the second word).

Today's SB is taking forever. I found two pangrams and plodded up to 216 points, just two above genius. I haven't looked at today's LB yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 02, 2020, 10:27:05 AM
Got a few solutions with 3 words. Hope will get to 2 soon. They would, of course, make any -TION or -LY words illegal. Grrr.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 02, 2020, 10:46:28 AM
Thanks for explaining the hint, ciao_yall! Makes sense now.  I tried to approach it yesterday by finding something ending in "ize" and was excited about capitalize or capitalized but couldn't figure out a second word from there and didn't think I could find one using the remaining letters and ending in "c".  So I tried "recapitalize", which it took, and ended up with OVER-RECAPITALIZED.  Capitalize was what I was trying to hint at with "take advantage of" (not a great hint), and I figured that's what Langue_doc was hinting at, too.  Looks like the "official" solution was CAPITALIZE-EVILDOER.

Today's bee is definitely a slog.  I was really going there for a while but have been pretty much stuck at 252 points, so still 50+ to go?! Yeek, definitely missing something.  Or a lot of somethings.  I took a quick look at LB and thought I had found a good inroad but will get back to that a bit later.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 02, 2020, 12:44:09 PM
We finally gave up on the bee after getting to 272 points and still being stumped.  Found two more in the dictionary, now searching the word list, but I am thinking we will have to look at the answers at this point.

But I did get to two words in Letterboxed!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 02, 2020, 03:24:38 PM
I don't think I'll be able to get back to SB or LB today, as I have a pile of grading/giving feedback that needs to be completed tonight.

As for SB, I'm missing a lot of words too. I'll have to look at the answers tomorrow to see what I missed.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 02, 2020, 03:50:14 PM
I don't think I would have found any of the five remaining bee words (the two in the dictionary and three that I had to look at the answers for).  I'm glad we gave up when we did.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 02, 2020, 04:11:07 PM
But I did get to two words in Letterboxed!

Me too!

Am experimenting with taking screenshots when I get a threefer and/or twofer just to save some good candidate words.

 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 02, 2020, 04:14:36 PM
But I did get to two words in Letterboxed!

Me too!

Am experimenting with taking screenshots when I get a threefer and/or twofer just to save some good candidate words.

Hurrah! I have just started writing good candidate words or solutions on a notepad, but screen shots make sense.  Didn't even think of that.  I kept today's solution in place after finding it so I could share it tomorrow, and then my computer decided to go ahead and need to be restarted, so I will write it down before I forget.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 02, 2020, 05:48:47 PM
But I did get to two words in Letterboxed!

Me too!

Am experimenting with taking screenshots when I get a threefer and/or twofer just to save some good candidate words.

Hurrah! I have just started writing good candidate words or solutions on a notepad, but screen shots make sense.  Didn't even think of that.  I kept today's solution in place after finding it so I could share it tomorrow, and then my computer decided to go ahead and need to be restarted, so I will write it down before I forget.

Oooh, fun! Let's see if we can guess each other's solutions. Here is mine:

One who reacts; those whom we honor.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 02, 2020, 07:18:35 PM
But I did get to two words in Letterboxed!

Me too!

Am experimenting with taking screenshots when I get a threefer and/or twofer just to save some good candidate words.

Hurrah! I have just started writing good candidate words or solutions on a notepad, but screen shots make sense.  Didn't even think of that.  I kept today's solution in place after finding it so I could share it tomorrow, and then my computer decided to go ahead and need to be restarted, so I will write it down before I forget.

Oooh, fun! Let's see if we can guess each other's solutions. Here is mine:

One who reacts; those whom we honor.

Haha, honestly those hints could refer to my solution as well! I think the first is most likely the same as mine.  The second, maybe not? But possible.  It's funny, because when I was walking into my office just now, I was thinking about what kinds of hints I could give for the two words.  I like yours.  Interesting if we ended up with the same solution...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 02, 2020, 08:04:15 PM
I don't think my words are the same as yours. My first word is a synonym of playful abandon, and the second, a word that I didn't think existed, but which LB accepted as a legit word is reminiscent of tra la la (the recognizable part, and not what appears to be a suffix).

Those whom we honor sounds like a plural form--perhaps a collective noun?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 03, 2020, 03:36:54 AM
Solved LB in about 5 minutes today, and also made it to genius in SB.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 03, 2020, 08:09:50 AM
I don't think my words are the same as yours. My first word is a synonym of playful abandon, and the second, a word that I didn't think existed, but which LB accepted as a legit word is reminiscent of tra la la (the recognizable part, and not what appears to be a suffix).

Those whom we honor sounds like a plural form--perhaps a collective noun?

Mine were FLINCHER-ROYALTY

The official answer is FROLIC-CHANTEY - sounds like you got that as well?

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 03, 2020, 08:14:21 AM
Solved LB in about 5 minutes today, and also made it to genius in SB.

Ditto. Now what am I gonna do all day?

Note to ab_grp: I read Langue_doc's comment before I looked and thought uh-oh, LD really kicks @ss at this - but then I got it on the first try.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 03, 2020, 08:16:27 AM
Yeah, easy Bee this morning! One notable missing word, however.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 03, 2020, 08:47:48 AM
Yes, mine were frolic and chantey, despite my not knowing that word.

Today's was too easy. Maybe they have a new puzzle setter?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 03, 2020, 08:59:24 AM
I had the same answer as ciao_yall for yesterday's LB.  I guessed from Langue_doc's clues that one might be frolic.  I had tried frothy and frothy at some point so remembered some of that pattern.  I don't think I would have gotten chantey, though I think that might have been one that was in the bee a few weeks ago, same day as it was (luckily!) in the crossword? Still not something that would pop into mind.  Sounds like today might not be so hard, so I'll give that a try in a few.  Hopefully I'll have the same success that you all have had!

As for the bee, yes, thankfully it was pretty short and easy.  We each managed to get up to around 100 and then compared lists and got to QB.  Yesterday we missed minicam and caiman (in the dictionary) and catmint, mancula, and clamant (found from the answers and added to the database).     

ETA: Wow, today's LB was easy! Surprisingly so.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 03, 2020, 09:21:00 AM
Yes, mine were frolic and chantey, despite my not knowing that word.

Today's was too easy. Maybe they have a new puzzle setter?

Interesting that you always seem to hit the "official" answer. Are you from the NY area? Or maybe you and the puzzle setters all went to the same college or something?

I find word puzzles very culturally specific.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 03, 2020, 10:02:55 AM
My responses are of the hit-or-miss type, so living in the city has no bearing on my guesses that turn out to be the correct answers. The puzzle setters are probably young 'uns living in typical young 'un neighborhoods and frequenting typical young 'un hangouts, so culturally and otherwise quite different from my background. Sorry to disappoint you!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 04, 2020, 07:36:04 AM
At least four pangrams today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 04, 2020, 07:47:25 AM
At least four pangrams today.

It cut me off after two.

Now to Letterboxed. 3 more days and then I need to decide if I want to start paying for it.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 04, 2020, 08:31:24 AM
At least four pangrams today.

Definitely feels like a different kind of bee today in some ways.  I'm about 15 points from QB but am taking a break for now. 

For LB, I had gravel yesterday but think I had a different first word.  Now I can't remember what it was.   Guess we'll see if today's is as easy as yesterday was. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 04, 2020, 08:53:42 AM
At least four pangrams today.

Definitely feels like a different kind of bee today in some ways.  I'm about 15 points from QB but am taking a break for now. 

For LB, I had gravel yesterday but think I had a different first word.  Now I can't remember what it was.   Guess we'll see if today's is as easy as yesterday was.

Definitely trickier. Getting to 3, and lots of great words, but 2 remains elusive for now. Am screen-shotting all my 3fers for inspiration.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 04, 2020, 03:35:21 PM
We made it to QB after comparing lists.  Whew!

I am having no luck so far getting 2 words on LB.  I have a bunch of possible words to work with, but haven't found the right ones or right combo yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 04, 2020, 04:23:39 PM
I also made it to QB. As for LB, the directions for today are to try to solve in 5 words, which suggests that fitting the letters into two words might be difficult. I gave up as there's still the crossword to tackle and the grading. Payback for yesterday's easy puzzle, no doubt.

I can see the suggestions for the number of words when on the computer, but not on the kindle.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 04, 2020, 05:09:09 PM
Got all four pangrams and made it past genius today. We'll see about QB later.

Yesterday, it didn't want to accept 'levelly'.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 04, 2020, 05:29:09 PM
For LB, it does typically have a "solve in [X] words" posted, but it has seemed as though there have been 2-word solutions each day lately.  I might be wrong and on a wild goose chase! I had been satisfied with 3-word solutions, and you folks have inspired me to go for 2.  I still haven't found an official note about whether there is always a 2-word solution possible, or what.  If anyone has looked at the official solutions more consistently than me and seen some that were 3 words, that would be great to know.

Langue_doc, congrats on QB, and the crossword didn't seem too bad today.  Sorry you have grading to distract you.

Yesterday, it didn't want to accept 'levelly'.

Yep, and with all the other 'ly' words! I looked it up to make sure I was spelling it correctly and kept trying it, which of course did not lead to any joy at all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 04, 2020, 06:37:52 PM
There is always a 2-word solution. I didn't realize that at first - I thought woohoo, I made 5, I guess I win.

Yeah, lots of 3fers. What I have noticed so far after looking at my screenshots is that they all involve UM or MU words. I have tried to do other things with the M and/or U but keep coming back there. Even when I solve the rest of the LB without them, my little filler words are that pattern.

Curious what the final result will be. Off to pour some more wine and watch "Life of Brian."
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 04, 2020, 07:30:20 PM
There is always a 2-word solution. I didn't realize that at first - I thought woohoo, I made 5, I guess I win.

Yeah, lots of 3fers. What I have noticed so far after looking at my screenshots is that they all involve UM or MU words. I have tried to do other things with the M and/or U but keep coming back there. Even when I solve the rest of the LB without them, my little filler words are that pattern.

Curious what the final result will be. Off to pour some more wine and watch "Life of Brian."

Okay, thanks for the confirmation that it is always possible to get 2 words.  I have a bunch of contender words with "um" in them.  Not sure I'll get back to it tonight given the Chinese food awaiting, but I am interested too to see the solution.  Your evening sounds great.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 04, 2020, 08:06:11 PM
There is always a 2-word solution. I didn't realize that at first - I thought woohoo, I made 5, I guess I win.

Yeah, lots of 3fers. What I have noticed so far after looking at my screenshots is that they all involve UM or MU words. I have tried to do other things with the M and/or U but keep coming back there. Even when I solve the rest of the LB without them, my little filler words are that pattern.

Curious what the final result will be. Off to pour some more wine and watch "Life of Brian."

Okay, thanks for the confirmation that it is always possible to get 2 words.  I have a bunch of contender words with "um" in them.  Not sure I'll get back to it tonight given the Chinese food awaiting, but I am interested too to see the solution.  Your evening sounds great.  Enjoy!

All this talk about food and spirits is distracting. Time for dessert and a drink.

I gave up on LB. Very often I look at the two words solution and just grind my teeth.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 05, 2020, 08:47:52 AM
Well, I wouldn't have gotten the 2-word solution from yesterday, I don't think.  I didn't come too close to either of those words.  We'll see about today later.  Maybe a drink would help.  There are some areas of math/stats in which similar is useful!

I finally got to genius today in the bee, but it's been a tough time for some reason.  I feel like I'm missing some obvious stuff.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 05, 2020, 08:53:16 AM
I wouldn't have gotten the two words solution either. I looked for words where the y was the second letter, but couldn't find any because of the configuration of letters.

I did make it to genius today. The rest of the words and LB will have to wait until later.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 05, 2020, 09:06:49 AM
I had "cyclical", but my other "y" words were "clumsy" and "family".  I figured it would be tough to start on a "y", so those ending in "y" would have to be the second word.  Didn't get anywhere with it, though.  I also had "factum", "scrum(s)", "sumac", "sacrum", trying to use the "u" and "m".  Oh well.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 05, 2020, 09:10:16 AM
I made genius today in SB, but was very annoyed that "hominin" was not accepted. 

I thought that today's LB was hard.  I'll go back to it later.  I don't often get the two words, but I usually get fewer than the number suggested.  Not today, though.  Maybe later...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 05, 2020, 09:30:26 AM
Yesterday - not even close!

Oh well, time to delete yesterday's screen shots and starting today's LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 05, 2020, 09:50:30 AM
I had "cyclical", but my other "y" words were "clumsy" and "family".  I figured it would be tough to start on a "y", so those ending in "y" would have to be the second word.  Didn't get anywhere with it, though.  I also had "factum", "scrum(s)", "sumac", "sacrum", trying to use the "u" and "m".  Oh well.

I had clumsy, muscles, turmeric (especially proud of that one) and others.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 05, 2020, 10:11:30 AM
Woohoo! Long first word, think plural, and short second word. Both quite commonly used.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 05, 2020, 10:28:42 AM
Woohoo! Long first word, think plural, and short second word. Both quite commonly used.

Lots of 3-fers over here, no 2-fers yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 05, 2020, 10:30:40 AM
Woohoo! Long first word, think plural, and short second word. Both quite commonly used.

Huzzah! Thanks for the hints, too.

Ciao_yall, turmeric is a good one!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 05, 2020, 10:34:10 AM
Got it! But both words were 7 letters. So, probably more than one 2-fer.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 05, 2020, 10:36:41 AM
I was inspired by your word turmeric.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 05, 2020, 11:08:00 AM
Woohoo! Long first word, think plural, and short second word. Both quite commonly used.

Found another 2-fer combo that fit your pattern. Variation on my first one.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 05, 2020, 12:38:53 PM
I finally got a 7 and 7 solution, so maybe that's the same as ciao_yall's.    Ooh wait, now I got one that's 10 and 4, in which the first word is a variation of the first of the 7-letter words in the other solution.  Thanks for all the hints!

As for the bee, we still had 20 some points left after comparing lists, and there were two words from the dictionary and two from the answers. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 05, 2020, 12:49:30 PM
Finally got LB!  One 10 letter word, one 4 letter word.  I can see the 7&7 variation.  Now I can proceed with my day!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 05, 2020, 02:01:10 PM
I'm still looking for the seven letter words. Mine were 10 and 4 letters as well.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 05, 2020, 05:33:22 PM
I'm still looking for the seven letter words. Mine were 10 and 4 letters as well.

Different forms of the same words, if they are the same as mine.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 05, 2020, 06:48:21 PM
I made genius today in SB, but was very annoyed that "hominin" was not accepted. 


Genius still eludes me today. It's a surprisingly difficult one. Still working on my pangram.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 05, 2020, 07:17:12 PM
I'm still looking for the seven letter words. Mine were 10 and 4 letters as well.

Different forms of the same words, if they are the same as mine.

Thanks for the hint--I found both words without much effort.

I made genius today in SB, but was very annoyed that "hominin" was not accepted. 


Genius still eludes me today. It's a surprisingly difficult one. Still working on my pangram.

There are two pangrams today, both variations on the same theme. Think sound. There was only one word that I didn't know, but got it by trying varying combinations of letters.

I made it to QB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 06, 2020, 07:52:58 AM
Looks like the two 7-letter words were the official solution in LB yesterday.  Or, at least, the ones I think ciao_yall initially came up with here.  Flavors and showing? And the 10 and 4 was flavorings and show?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 06, 2020, 08:32:02 AM
Yes, flavors and showing are the correct responses. Mine, as you correctly guessed, were flavorings and show.

Today's LB is more challenging the directions suggest finding five words.

I made it to slightly above genius in SB.

ETA: two words, 10 and 7 letters in LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 06, 2020, 08:56:13 AM
Cool! I'll try LB a little later.  I got to about 30 points from QB.  Luckily, some similar letters to those of a recent puzzle, so I could remember some I got and some I didn't in that one.  Still a ways to go.  The crossword wasn't too hard, just long, as usual for a Sunday.  But that plus a long bee means a bunch of time on puzzles! Not complaining.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 06, 2020, 08:59:34 AM
Today's SB is rather similar to the one from a couple days ago. Unfortunately, I don't remember all my words from then. =p
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 06, 2020, 09:20:36 AM
I just got a 7 and 7 solution in LB.  Off to try for the 10 and 7!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 06, 2020, 09:29:30 AM
Oooh! I'm going to try for the two sevens.

I've been distracted by tiles today. I find several of them to be rather boring, but like today's configuration. I have no idea what the patterns mean though.

ETA: found them; yours are much more intuitive and straightforward than mine.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 06, 2020, 10:13:14 AM
Looks like the two 7-letter words were the official solution in LB yesterday.  Or, at least, the ones I think ciao_yall initially came up with here.  Flavors and showing? And the 10 and 4 was flavorings and show?

Yep, exactly.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 06, 2020, 10:21:50 AM
Are you finding today's LB, with both the X and the Z? I have found a 3-fer, but the 2-fer is way far away.

Great words are seen but darn letters on the same side makes it hard.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 06, 2020, 11:13:41 AM
Are you finding today's LB, with both the X and the Z? I have found a 3-fer, but the 2-fer is way far away.

Great words are seen but darn letters on the same side makes it hard.

Yes, I got a 7 and 7, and Langue_doc got a 10 and 7, which I am still going to try to find.  I got lucky, in that the first word kind of popped out at me, and I realized I could use the remaining letters pretty easily.  Fortunately, I did not have to stress and worry or have too much heartache about it.  Good luck!

We made it to within one word of QB, but we never would have gotten the last one found in the answers.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 06, 2020, 11:42:04 AM
Are you finding today's LB, with both the X and the Z? I have found a 3-fer, but the 2-fer is way far away.

Great words are seen but darn letters on the same side makes it hard.

Yes, I got a 7 and 7, and Langue_doc got a 10 and 7, which I am still going to try to find.  I got lucky, in that the first word kind of popped out at me, and I realized I could use the remaining letters pretty easily.  Fortunately, I did not have to stress and worry or have too much heartache about it.  Good luck!

We made it to within one word of QB, but we never would have gotten the last one found in the answers.

Got it! 10 and 7.

And the 7 and 7 - variation on the 10-letter word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 06, 2020, 11:50:26 AM
Aha! I got a 10 and 7, thanks to your hint, ciao_yall.  Although now I am wondering if Langue_doc found the same 10 and 7 or a different pair.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 06, 2020, 11:55:36 AM
My ten letter word is a variation of the seven letter one. As for the latter, it's probably one of the things we do when confronted with configurations such as today's.

ETA My ten letter word is most definitely not a variation of the seven letter one. I'm typing this on my kindle, which affects my thinking.

Today's SB is rather similar to the one from a couple days ago. Unfortunately, I don't remember all my words from then. =p

Yup. They're mostly run of the mill words, at least until you get to genius.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 07, 2020, 08:33:59 AM
My words yesterday were ANTAGONIZE-EXCERPT and then I realized I could get it done with AGONIZE-EXCERPT.

Can't check the official answers yet because it has gone behind the paywall - I'll figure out the subscription add-on later today. I already subscribe to the NYTimes so maybe it's just an addition to my current account and it will be easy.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 07, 2020, 08:36:26 AM
I didn't get back to LB yesterday, so I would be interested to know which words you found, Langue_doc! Mine were agonize and excerpt, and ciao_yall gave me a hint to get to antagonize as the first word.  ETA: just saw ciao_yall's post.  The official solution was agonize-excerpt.

Today's bee is getting to me! I was doing pretty well and got up to about 152, but neither husband nor I could find the pangram, so we compared lists and now have about 17 points left to QB and still no pangram.  Didn't sleep too well, which isn't helping.  I figure we either have just a long pangram left, or a pangram and a couple short words.  Maybe a little more coffee will do some magic.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 07, 2020, 09:04:12 AM
I didn't get back to LB yesterday, so I would be interested to know which words you found, Langue_doc! Mine were agonize and excerpt, and ciao_yall gave me a hint to get to antagonize as the first word.  ETA: just saw ciao_yall's post.  The official solution was agonize-excerpt.

Today's bee is getting to me! I was doing pretty well and got up to about 152, but neither husband nor I could find the pangram, so we compared lists and now have about 17 points left to QB and still no pangram.  Didn't sleep too well, which isn't helping.  I figure we either have just a long pangram left, or a pangram and a couple short words.  Maybe a little more coffee will do some magic.

The correct responses are agonize and excerpt. My first set of words were antagonize and excerpt, but the first word repeats letters (a and n in the first, and t in the second). I found the correct set after seeing ciao_yall's post yesterday.

I'm still missing the pangram in today's SB, but made it to genius.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 07, 2020, 09:35:38 AM
SB - up to Amazing before a shower, no panagram yet. It wouldn't take CEPE which is a kind of mushroom. Now I'm cranky.

LB - got a clunky 5 word solution started but haven't found that long word that eats up a lot of letters, pointing toward the 2 word solution.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: OneMoreYear on December 07, 2020, 09:41:15 AM
Today's pangram became more obvious after I kept seeing headache (because I have a constant one this semester)--which obviously does not count as a word because it doesn't include p.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 07, 2020, 09:44:07 AM
I'm at genius, but the pangram eludes me for the time being!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 07, 2020, 09:49:18 AM
Wouldn't take HIPPED either, like a hipped roof.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 07, 2020, 09:57:52 AM
I too was miffed at SB's refusal to accept hipped.

The pangram must be a tricky one today as none of us has found it yet.

ETA: as for the pangram, just play around with word combinations; it's sort of a compound.

ETA: just saw this one:
Today's pangram became more obvious after I kept seeing headache (because I have a constant one this semester)--which obviously does not count as a word because it doesn't include p.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 07, 2020, 10:31:32 AM
I finally got the pangram as the penultimate word.   The final word took another minute or two, but I finally got that.  And it was an easy one, so I was kicking myself. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 07, 2020, 01:13:20 PM
DIPACHE? No?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: nebo113 on December 07, 2020, 01:17:27 PM
Why does LB say "Genius" or "Awesome" after some words?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 07, 2020, 01:42:18 PM
Why does LB say "Genius" or "Awesome" after some words?

Maybe they're trying to be like their more popular sibling, the bee. ;-)  Still struggling with today's LB, by the way.  I have some good candidate words but have not been able to make any solutions in two words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 07, 2020, 05:04:49 PM
Why does LB say "Genius" or "Awesome" after some words?

Maybe they're trying to be like their more popular sibling, the bee. ;-)  Still struggling with today's LB, by the way.  I have some good candidate words but have not been able to make any solutions in two words.

They think we're kids who need the "well done" feedback.

I made it to QB earlier this afternoon, and just completed the crossword, an easy one. Now on to some grading before tackling LB. I found a couple of words earlier but couldn't get the remaining letters to form a word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 07, 2020, 05:36:31 PM
Why does LB say "Genius" or "Awesome" after some words?

Maybe they're trying to be like their more popular sibling, the bee. ;-)  Still struggling with today's LB, by the way.  I have some good candidate words but have not been able to make any solutions in two words.

They think we're kids who need the "well done" feedback.

I made it to QB earlier this afternoon, and just completed the crossword, an easy one. Now on to some grading before tackling LB. I found a couple of words earlier but couldn't get the remaining letters to form a word.

Found the panagram, but still stuck at Genius.

LB - Plenty of 3-fers but the 2-fer eludes me.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 08, 2020, 06:18:01 AM
Found two pangrams today and made it to genius.

As for LB, I wouldn't have guessed yesterday's two words. I did find a couple or more starting with en-, but the result was a three-word solution.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 08, 2020, 07:57:52 AM
Found two pangrams today and made it to genius.

As for LB, I wouldn't have guessed yesterday's two words. I did find a couple or more starting with en-, but the result was a three-word solution.

SB yesterday - missed 2 obvious ones (PEACE, CHEEPED) and one I should have gotten (EPEE) from doing the crossword puzzle all the time.

LB - I figured some sort of OMB; OMP; solution would be part of the final solution. I had all sorts of words like CAMBER, TAMPER, ROMPER, CRIMP... oh well. Onward! to today's!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 08, 2020, 08:07:35 AM
I was apparently going in the wrong direction with LB yesterday, with reform, proforma, cabinet, informant, protein, pertain.  At least I was sort of close with camper.  I guess yesterday's was pretty tough, given that we all had trouble with it.

For the bee yesterday, epee was my final word, despite all the crossword stuff.  For today, sounds like I'm right around where Langue_doc is. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 08, 2020, 08:41:31 AM
Found two pangrams today and made it to genius.

As for LB, I wouldn't have guessed yesterday's two words. I did find a couple or more starting with en-, but the result was a three-word solution.

2 panagrams, made it to genius, not sure if QB will happen.

My first 3-fer of the day and first "**** I would have had a 2-fer if the letters are on the same side."

Well, time for a shower.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 09, 2020, 05:21:37 AM
Today's SB is punitive rather than challenging. Made it to genius though, but no pangram yet.

As for LB, I haven't looked at the solution nor today's puzzle.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 09, 2020, 09:09:24 AM
SB - it wouldn't take COIR. Now I'm cranky.

LB - I didn't get either word in the solution! Okay, about to get started.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 09, 2020, 09:31:24 AM
For yesterday's LB I didn't get either of the words, either.  I thought I had a couple good candidates, but no deal.  Hopefully today's will be easier.  It seems like after that super easy one a few days ago, we are being punished!

I got up to 94 points on the bee today, but now I am really struggling.  Luckily, I accidentally started today's crossword last night.  I was trying to do an archive puzzle, but I guess I clicked on the new puzzle without thinking.  I figured it out midway, after there were a couple answers that I did not think would be part of a 2002 puzzle, as they weren't even around then.  But it took less time to get the crossword done this morning thanks to the head start.   Not that it has led to QB, yet.  I did get the (?) pangram pretty early on.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 09, 2020, 09:37:31 AM
Slow start with SB.

LB - lots of 5 and unders solutions, and lots of short words. But haven't found that long word that tends to point to a solution.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 09, 2020, 12:36:49 PM
I'll probably make it to QB. There are still a few words left on the crossword. I have a three-word solution to LB but don't think I have the patience to work on it today to get it down to two.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 09, 2020, 05:48:22 PM
SB - stuck at "great" and no panagram.

LB - plenty of 3fers with weird little words like "DOG" and "YAW" to bridge two real words. But the actual 2fer eludes me.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 09, 2020, 06:23:05 PM
Difficult words, a few plurals and one singular (this one should be intuitive). I found the pangram by playing around with word combinations. I've been pleasantly distracted by my book discussion group today, so don't know if I'll have the energy to get to QB. As for LB, it's a 3-fer.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 09, 2020, 07:04:36 PM
After comparing bee lists, we got to within one word but had to run the program to find it.  Husband actually tried the word but had spelled it wrong.  So close! I actually got the pangram from a book we had read a couple years ago.

As for LB, I have another couple good candidate words but still can't get a second that finishes it off.  Tough couple puzzles the last few days.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 09, 2020, 09:18:25 PM
Two-fer finally. Think of Oscar, the Muppet, and What one tends to do this time of the day, past tense.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 10, 2020, 09:06:04 AM
Two-fer finally. Think of Oscar, the Muppet, and What one tends to do this time of the day, past tense.

Those were great clues.  Thanks! At least "I" completed yesterday's now.  That's the official solution, too.  Good work! I didn't have any words that were similar to those on my candidate list.

Today's bee is hard! I got to genius +1, barely.  I am either missing a lot of stuff that goes together, or there's still a bunch of unique words left. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 10, 2020, 09:09:09 AM
Two points short of genius on the Bee today, but they'll come eventually. Seems to me there's a foodstuff it's not accepting but should (although I suppose it's named after an ancient kingdom, so maybe that's the rationale).
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 10, 2020, 09:26:33 AM
LB - yesterday I WAS SO CLOSE! I had both words in different 3-fer combinations.

SB - Gah.

Onward...

SB - cruising along, stuck at "Great" for now.

LB - plenty of 3-fers, hope to find the 2-fer at some point.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 10, 2020, 09:44:51 AM
I made it to genius--a couple of words of Greek origin, one plural, two dishes, not originally American, a body part (don't know how this sneaked past the censors), another body part, and plenty of four-letter words. Not sure if I have the energy to look further as there's the crossword and the LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 10, 2020, 09:49:23 AM
Got it with a six-pointer! I'm all out of steam for QB though.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 10, 2020, 09:52:40 AM
Clearly not a California writer. SB wouldn't take HELLA.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 10, 2020, 10:40:46 AM
It is interesting when the bee won't take a word but will take a variation of the word.  We got up to 160 points after comparing but are probably going to throw in the towel.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 10, 2020, 12:29:25 PM
I made it to genius--a couple of words of Greek origin, one plural, two dishes, not originally American, a body part (don't know how this sneaked past the censors), another body part, and plenty of four-letter words. Not sure if I have the energy to look further as there's the crossword and the LB.

I'm stuck at amazing/110 and think I have all that you have, still no panagram. I have the body parts that I think you are referring to - hey, it's the proper latin term and not a slang term so why not?

3fers coming out of my ears with LB. Probably same situation as yesterday in that there are 2 words that go together in my various 3fer combos.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 10, 2020, 01:26:04 PM
The pangram has a sort of recognizable prefix as well as a suffix. You can get another word from the pangram without the suffix part.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 10, 2020, 02:01:03 PM
I got the pangram fairly early, but the rest of today’s SB was a struggle.  I did finally make it to Genius.  I just don’t have the energy to go for QB.

Sometimes the decisions about what not to accept are surprising.  It rejected hella, but accepted a similar word that I would consider a slangy spelling.

As for LB, I’m stuck at a 3-word solution. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: permanent imposter on December 10, 2020, 11:49:00 PM
The pangram has a sort of recognizable prefix as well as a suffix. You can get another word from the pangram without the suffix part.

Thanks for this, I've never used this word without the suffix part.

Also I wanted to thank this thread for informing me of SB's existence and thus claiming most of my morning productivity time :) If anyone is interested in a free app that has a similar concept it's called "Not That Spelling Bee."
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 11, 2020, 04:51:54 AM
Made it to genius today, but alas, no pangram yet.

Now, self, get to work.

Welcome to the club, permanent imposter.

ETA: Found the pangram!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: reener06 on December 11, 2020, 05:13:07 AM
And I got the pangram as first word but am one point shy of genius. Coffee not kicking in, yeah, that's it.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 11, 2020, 08:45:55 AM
I got up to 89 points, and we are at 94 after comparing.  So I guess maybe two four-letter words left? It's been pretty easy today overall.  Good luck, reener06!

I never did get the 2-word LB solution yesterday.  And, looking at the solution, I was not even close with my contenders.  I got distracted trying for the first time to do the medium sudoku.  I don't know if that can be accomplished without guessing entries (which I don't want to do).  Guess I'm not at that level yet.

Also I wanted to thank this thread for informing me of SB's existence and thus claiming most of my morning productivity time :) If anyone is interested in a free app that has a similar concept it's called "Not That Spelling Bee."

Welcome! And thanks for the tip about the other app, which I'm sure will eventually suck up more of my time, just like these folks have now sucked me into Letter Boxed.  I also use Wordscapes, which is sort of similar and I think has helped with the bee.  And there is Letter Hive, which is much more like the bee and allows you to customize the letters and has a solve feature.

ETA: I finally got the last bee word (only one remained, not two).  Hurrah.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 11, 2020, 09:38:38 AM
SB Yesterday - it took HELLUVA but not HELLA? Discrimination against California!

This morning, got the panagram fairly quickly. Maybe I'll do better today. Ran out of gas at "Amazing."

LB - Never got PLANKTON. I had SCHLUMP but oh well. I was coming up with a lot of combos with PHANTOM - close but no cigar!

Onward to today's - got the 2-fer on the first try!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 11, 2020, 10:25:09 AM
LB--didn't get either of the two words yesterday.

I made it to QB earlier today with the last word, one of foreign origin and which I invariably miss despite its frequent occurrence in SB, which I fortuitously remembered.

ciao_yall and ab_grp, woohoo for your solutions today.

I've been doing the sudokus and yes, you can adjust the settings so that you don't see the solution when you are working on it.

Dang, autocorrect! MYOB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: reener06 on December 11, 2020, 03:02:15 PM
Well, I got to genius. Three words short of QB but I think I'm done. Not bad. I don't usually get QB or even close-I usually stop at genius, so I'll take it.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 12, 2020, 09:08:13 AM
Last night I flew out of bed with words for yesterday's SB in my mind... and none of them contained an "I" so not usable.

SB - hit Amazing and found one panagram on the first run. Now to LB....
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 12, 2020, 09:25:46 AM
Last night I flew out of bed with words for yesterday's SB in my mind... and none of them contained an "I" so not usable.

That is funny, but sorry the words didn't work out.  I have found myself in the same position at times.

Yesterday's LB flummoxed me.  I could not figure out any words with x that would work with one more word.  I think I had the other word in the solution, at least.  Not getting very far with today's, either, but I'll keep at it from time to time.

For today's bee, I am a little over 20 points shy of QB.  I know we've had these letters or similar recently, so I'm trying to recall the answers and do good book keeping. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 12, 2020, 09:28:41 AM
I'm one word short of QB. As for LB, I didn't even come close to either word. I vaguely recall finding dominatrix in an earlier puzzle, but was looking for words with the x in the middle.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 12, 2020, 09:51:13 AM
Today's LB - very slow start. Not even finding those weird 3-letter words that at least get to a 7-word solution.

Yesterday I found DOMINATRIX at the beginning, and there was SCOLD so that was easy.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 12, 2020, 05:43:07 PM
SB - stuck again at Amazing.

LB - got a 3fer, considering that a win.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 13, 2020, 08:23:56 AM
Visualizing, I can understand. But grok? What the f*ck!!!

I'll probably make it to QB today. The list is boring though, just rearranging the same letters.

Last night I flew out of bed with words for yesterday's SB in my mind... and none of them contained an "I" so not usable.

That is funny, but sorry the words didn't work out.  I have found myself in the same position at times.


I too come up with words that I'm convinced are going to work. Yesterday, the word 'tugboat' kept popping up in my mind, despite 'a' missing from the list.

Well, I got to genius. Three words short of QB but I think I'm done. Not bad. I don't usually get QB or even close-I usually stop at genius, so I'll take it.

I used to stop at genius until I came across this thread. Peer pressure seems to have kicked in, so now instead of looking at the solution the following day, I try to make it to QB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 13, 2020, 08:46:46 AM
I kept seeing "tugboat" yesterday, too.  And I'm with you, Langue_doc, on the peer pressure making me aspire to more! Particularly on LB, which I had never really played.  Now I want a 2-word solution or nothing.  I (again) did not get too close to the words yesterday and probably would not have come up with grok.  I figured one might end with "zing", but my candidates left too many other letters to deal with.

For the bee today, I've got about 27 points to go for QB.  I feel stuck in a pattern. 

Does anyone else have this happen: I sometimes get what seems to be a surprising word only to realize that, duh, it is an obvious word.  Yesterday I tried "both" but heard it in my head as rhyming with "goth" and was excited when it was accepted until, of course, I realized.  The other day I tried "thou" like short for thousand and then thought oh yeah... thou.  In Wordscapes yesterday I had "singe" and thought, well I guess if you singe something you are a singer and was happy that was accepted.  Not like you could pronounce that word differently or anything.  It just happens now and again and gives me a laugh.  This has happened when reading out loud to my husband as well.  "Legend" was hyphenated at the end of a line, and I was thinking what is a leg end?! Or pronouncing "Gee!" with a hard g.   
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 13, 2020, 09:26:23 AM
Visualizing, I can understand. But grok? What the f*ck!!!


My 3-fer included GROK. I kept playing with -IVING, -IZING... somehow didn't get VISUALIZING.

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I used to stop at genius until I came across this thread. Peer pressure seems to have kicked in, so now instead of looking at the solution the following day, I try to make it to QB.

This thread is now one of my morning stops. I enjoy everyone's creative a subtle hints!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 13, 2020, 09:30:58 AM
I got a 2-word solution for today's LB! Yay! It has been a few days since any kind of victorious feeling in that game.  Am available for hints if needed.  Maybe I can trudge on closer to QB now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 13, 2020, 09:42:48 AM
Thanks for the offer, ab_grp. I'll take you up on it later this afternoon if I'm still desperate. I haven't tried today's puzzle yet but looked at it because I wanted to see the solution.

Several years ago, I met Will Shortz (of the crosswords) at an outdoor fair of sorts. He, naturally, was in the NY Times booth. I recall chatting with him and having him sign the crossword page in the magazine. I don't remember why I had the magazine--must have taken it along to read in the subway. I recall thinking that he looked very young for a crossword puzzle setter.

Gone are the days of taking the subway (they used to be much cleaner and safer, so I don't really miss them). Gone also are the days of street fairs.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 13, 2020, 09:48:01 AM
I got a 2-word solution for today's LB! Yay! It has been a few days since any kind of victorious feeling in that game.  Am available for hints if needed.  Maybe I can trudge on closer to QB now.

You rock! I came here to tell everyone I would have one if it weren't for the same darn letters on every side.

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Several years ago, I met Will Shortz (of the crosswords) at an outdoor fair of sorts. He, naturally, was in the NY Times booth. I recall chatting with him and having him sign the crossword page in the magazine. I don't remember why I had the magazine--must have taken it along to read in the subway. I recall thinking that he looked very young for a crossword puzzle setter.

Will Shortz gave a talk on puzzles and the place was packed. My friend and I were fangirling like it was the Beatles 1964.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 13, 2020, 10:49:40 AM
I got a 2-word solution for today's LB! Yay! It has been a few days since any kind of victorious feeling in that game.  Am available for hints if needed.  Maybe I can trudge on closer to QB now.

You rock! I came here to tell everyone I would have one if it weren't for the same darn letters on every side.

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Several years ago, I met Will Shortz (of the crosswords) at an outdoor fair of sorts. He, naturally, was in the NY Times booth. I recall chatting with him and having him sign the crossword page in the magazine. I don't remember why I had the magazine--must have taken it along to read in the subway. I recall thinking that he looked very young for a crossword puzzle setter.

Will Shortz gave a talk on puzzles and the place was packed. My friend and I were fangirling like it was the Beatles 1964.

Thanks! Good luck.  The same-side syndrome is a pain in the neck.  I just got lucky, I think.  And I envy both of you for your Will Shortz experiences! He has such an interesting background.  I've listened to a few podcasts he's been on but have never been in person with him.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 13, 2020, 12:58:33 PM
Got the 2fer. Woohoo! Also finished the crossword puzzle and the spiral puzzle in the print magazine.

Still stuck at "Amazing" for SB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 13, 2020, 01:06:13 PM
Yeah!! For SB, we got to within 8 points after comparing.  Should have picked up two of the final words, but I don't think we would have gotten the third without just trying stuff.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 13, 2020, 01:47:30 PM
Yeah!! For SB, we got to within 8 points after comparing.  Should have picked up two of the final words, but I don't think we would have gotten the third without just trying stuff.

Great minds think alike!

For SB got to "genius" with some very clever hints from one of the folks on the crossword puzzle comments thread. I think I'm one word away from QB which would be my first, but I can't make sense of the hint.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 13, 2020, 02:00:32 PM
Congrats to both of you.

I'm gearing up for a massive grading session tomorrow by rereading Jane Austen, so that's my priority for today.


Does anyone else have this happen: I sometimes get what seems to be a surprising word only to realize that, duh, it is an obvious word.  Yesterday I tried "both" but heard it in my head as rhyming with "goth" and was excited when it was accepted until, of course, I realized.  The other day I tried "thou" like short for thousand and then thought oh yeah... thou.  In Wordscapes yesterday I had "singe" and thought, well I guess if you singe something you are a singer and was happy that was accepted.  Not like you could pronounce that word differently or anything.  It just happens now and again and gives me a laugh.  This has happened when reading out loud to my husband as well.  "Legend" was hyphenated at the end of a line, and I was thinking what is a leg end?! Or pronouncing "Gee!" with a hard g.   

I have variations of this happen, I think because I'm seeing random letters rather than words. Yesterday I got both and boot early on, but was surprised not to have seen booth until the very end.

SB wasn't too difficult; think of the various combinations with ch at the end.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 13, 2020, 08:25:36 PM
Got the two-fer and QB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 14, 2020, 08:20:21 AM
Congrats, Langue_doc! At first I thought that you were already reporting in for today.  That would be super fast.  Obviously I need to wake up a bit.   Did you get the official solution, which ciao_yall and I found, or a different one? Hope your grading session goes well.

Doing okay so far on SB, but I just started.  It's a sort of long puzzle. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 14, 2020, 08:33:37 AM
Those were my last tasks for last night, just before I completed today's crossword. Clearing my brain with good prose probably helped.

Mine were frolicker and random, I think. I found several possibilities with the j today, but have to play around some more.

As for SB, made it to genius. These are more or less the same words from a recent puzzle, so rather blah.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 14, 2020, 09:35:08 AM
We had flicker-random yesterday for LB.  I just took a look at today's and had a great idea for a J word and... same side letters issue.  Argh!!!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 14, 2020, 09:52:01 AM
Morning! Also thought Langue_doc was like a super-turbo-genius when I first checked in. S/he must get up really early in the morning.

SB - Ran out of gas at "Nice" but will shower and come back. Looks like there is a crowd that "meets" regularly in the comments section, so may compare lists with them.

LB - got a few 4-word solutions so hope the 3-fer and 2-fer emerge soon. Like ab_grp, saw a great word and that same side issue! Grr.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 14, 2020, 10:57:16 AM
Now that I have had breakfast, I will try the LB again.  For the bee, we were within 6 points after comparing, and I saw the final word just as I was about to give up.  Hurrah! Hopefully that won't be my only victory of the day.  I'm going to try to shake off the almost J word agony and go back to LB for a bit.

For SB got to "genius" with some very clever hints from one of the folks on the crossword puzzle comments thread. I think I'm one word away from QB which would be my first, but I can't make sense of the hint.

Did you end up being a word away? And what was it? We probably would not have gotten "lath" but should have gotten "attach" and "hath."

ETA: Dang! I now have a list J words that seem to have potential, and many are long and take up a lot of letters.  But I can't figure out another word to go with any of them!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 14, 2020, 11:59:59 AM
Morning! Also thought Langue_doc was like a super-turbo-genius when I first checked in. S/he must get up really early in the morning.

SB - Ran out of gas at "Nice" but will shower and come back. Looks like there is a crowd that "meets" regularly in the comments section, so may compare lists with them.

LB - got a few 4-word solutions so hope the 3-fer and 2-fer emerge soon. Like ab_grp, saw a great word and that same side issue! Grr.

Super-turbo-genius--not me alas. That was my post prior to retiring last night.

I'm having similar issues and frustrations with the same-side letters, especially the c and e. So much potential, unrealized and unfulfilled.

ab_grp, I found lath by putting those letters together. I expected a rejection, but was surprised to see that as far as SB was concerned, this was a legit word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 14, 2020, 01:19:19 PM
I finally figured out a second word to go with one of my many J words, and it worked! Yeehaw.  I also solved a medium sudoku puzzle without help for the first time.  This day is bound to start going downhill soon.

ab_grp, I found lath by putting those letters together. I expected a rejection, but was surprised to see that as far as SB was concerned, this was a legit word.

I think lath is one of those I just have to add to my list of words to try to remember that come up in the puzzle.  It is in the dictionary, but I am really not sure what they consider common enough to include given some that they don't.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 14, 2020, 01:46:42 PM
SB - stuck at amazing, no panagram yet.

LB - got a 2-fer - yay!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 14, 2020, 01:48:38 PM
Did you end up being a word away? And what was it? We probably would not have gotten "lath" but should have gotten "attach" and "hath."

The only word I didn't find was NUTHATCH, which I thought was a not-very-nice word for mental health asylum, but turns out it is also a type of bird.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 14, 2020, 02:01:28 PM
I found nuthatch early on and was proud of myself for doing so. However I missed flicker yesterday. This was annoying because last year I found the entire "shell" of a flicker with all the feathers intact after a predator had feasted on the poor bird. I gave a couple to a fellow birder and brought the rest of the feathers home.

I'm probably a couple of words short of QB. There's still the two-fer in LB.

Today's SB accepted a four letter word that it has steadfastly rejected as recently as last week. There must have been complaints.

ETA: Nuthatches are quite common in parks and botanical gardens, so this word has no other associations for me.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 14, 2020, 04:41:05 PM
Got the two-fer and the QB. (Sigh of relief).

Now I can concentrate on the grading.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 14, 2020, 04:58:20 PM
SB - Went online to the puzzle commenters and after reviewing a list of hints, achieved "Genius." QB eludes me yet. They wouldn't take OLLA or ILIAL today. Whatever. I'm a QB in my own mind.

 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 14, 2020, 07:01:14 PM
Nuthatch is what got me to genius (and a little beyond yesterday).  I figured it was fitting.

Got the two-fer and the QB. (Sigh of relief).

Hooray!

SB - Went online to the puzzle commenters and after reviewing a list of hints, achieved "Genius." QB eludes me yet. They wouldn't take OLLA or ILIAL today. Whatever. I'm a QB in my own mind.

Yes!

I will be interested to see what we all came up with for LB today and what the official solution is.  I had (finally!!) found a good list of J words, but it took me forever to find a mate for one of them.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 14, 2020, 07:36:42 PM
The LB turned out to be quite easy once I decided not to include the j and the y in the same word. So the first word ended in s, and the rest of the letters along with additional ones arranged themselves into a commonly used word.

Yes, ciao_yall, we're all QBs and lords of all that we survey (somehow "ladies of all that we survey" doesn't quite have the same ring to it).
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 15, 2020, 07:52:39 AM
SB - found the panagram early on, but now it's going slowly. Stuck at "Great" but hope to achieve "Amazing" before joining my new friends at the crossword puzzle comments.

Don't worry, you all are still my "ride or die" crowd.

LB- my yesterday solution used fewer letters than the official solution. Today, already finding 4 and 5-word solutions, so hope the 2-fer will appear soon.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 15, 2020, 09:25:31 AM
We were still almost 20 points away today after comparing.  Interestingly, my program turned up one from the database that no longer seems to be accepted? It's in there multiple times, so I don't think I just mistyped it.  In the beginning, I was typing in all the answers, but I quickly started copying them in from the spelling bee solver site, so this is a little weird.  There is also a word that is not in there that I think should be given others of similar type that they include.

For LB yesterday, I got the official solution.  I was so hoping the remaining letters would allow for "strictly", as that's what popped out at me, but no joy.  At least I finally figured out a second word that worked.  I'll take a look at today's after breakfast. 

Wishing everyone good puzzling and solving today!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 15, 2020, 10:17:40 AM
Achieved "genius" with help from the crossword puzzle commenters, but lots of hints I'm just not getting.

LB- found a very efficient 3-fer so hope the 2-fer appears soon.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 15, 2020, 10:52:52 AM
I managed to get a 2-fer in LB, though not down the avenue that I had thought might work out.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 15, 2020, 01:05:57 PM
I saw both your emails this morning but couldn't post my responses as I was using my phone and couldn't remember my password, all of which relegated me to guest status. Anyway, I got the pangram while waiting for my car to be serviced, but had made it to genius before I left in the morning.

I was surprised to see 'moil' accepted yesterday. This word has been consistently refused, as I keep entering it whenever I see the four letters. Today I kept getting words with 'n' such as pound, around, apron, and so on. I would have had quite a list if only 'n' had been one of today's words.

As for LB, I found a three-word solution: I'll have to keep trying for a two-fer.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 15, 2020, 01:14:30 PM
Langue_doc, when you mentioned the word that had not previously been accepted, I thought that was it (after perusing my list).  I didn't remember that one, either.  And I was also looking for apron and etc. today.  Good luck with the 2-fer! I might try again, because I doubt my solution is the official one.  They tend to have more elegant solutions.  Glad you're back from being a guest!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 15, 2020, 06:56:16 PM
I got to QB and completed the crossword. SB wouldn't accept what I thought was a perfectly legit 6-letter word ending in -p.

I've probably given up on LB. I kept wanting to get the letters to spell "velociraptor"--no 'r', alas, and even with the 'r', the other letters wouldn't have been on the right sides. Sigh!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 16, 2020, 07:32:46 AM
Never found the 2-fer yesterday. Was the official solution the one you found, ab_grp?

I found some things I wish were words, like SANIVIPE which sounds like a cleaning product my great-grandmother would have used. And a very tight 3-fer BLOCK-KNAVES-SIP which did nothing for getting me to the official solution but note that I didn't reuse a single letter....
 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 16, 2020, 07:48:36 AM
Never found the 2-fer yesterday. Was the official solution the one you found, ab_grp?

I suppose I could have gotten the official solution off of mine if I had kept at it, but I did not.  In any case, I got CLOVES-SPINBACK.  I was trying to do something with canvases.  I don't think spinback is a really good word, if it is a word, so it's kind of like my first ever 2-fer that included SPOTCH.  Doesn't really feel like a victory.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 16, 2020, 07:54:33 AM
Mine were backspins and solve. Made it to genius in SB, with two pangrams. I found a few words with the q, but can't get the remaining letters into a single word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 16, 2020, 09:08:07 AM
I just barely made it to genius today but didn't realize there's a second pangram, so that might help (if I can find it!).  Thanks for the tip, Langue_doc! As for LB, I haven't looked at it yet but am not sure if the Q will make it easier or harder... sounds like harder.  I'll take a look after the easy sudoku.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 16, 2020, 11:24:01 AM
The second pangram is quite easy, ab_grp. The words I've found so far are pretty standard. I might have to look for more esoteric ones to reach QB. I'm still a square amiss on the crossword.

I usually do the mini crossword and the sudokus as soon as they are released. Sometimes I start on the crossword at night. Last night I almost completed the crossword except for that pesky letter.

Today's schedule is the crossword, QB, and LB, in that order. All of this will have to wait until later this evening.

Good luck with the two-fer.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 16, 2020, 11:32:22 AM
Thanks! We ended up comparing lists, and I found out that husband had already gotten both pangrams.  I will blame his beating me to it on a not-great night of sleep.  That is also why I don't look at the puzzles the night they are released.  The mini is easy enough, but if I look at the bee I will be turning the letters over and over in my head all night.  And if I only had one square left in the crossword, that would be keeping me up, too.  I do the sudokus and LB on the computer, so that is during the day.   I just looked back at the crossword to try to guess which square was your obstacle.  Not quite sure.   Good luck!

I managed to screw up the easy sudoku by jamming along to a Metallica concert while solving.  Oh well, it was worth it.  I'm working on medium sudoku now and am glad to be getting better at it.  I will have to try the hard one once I get faster at medium.

For LB, I have a couple good contender Q words but am still missing a second word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 16, 2020, 12:04:34 PM
I made Genius on today's SB, but will probably not push for QB. I got both pangrams, and one word that was a lucky guess, tried in desperation as I wondered if the first part of the word I did know was a prefix.  Yes!  Apparently so. 

As for LB, the 2 word solution eludes me.  3 words, yes, but not 2.  Yet.

Crossword and sudokus are solved, too.  I used to be awful at sudoku, but thanks to the pandemic, I’ve gotten a lot better at it. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 16, 2020, 12:12:51 PM
SB - hit Genius with help from my friends on the crossword puzzle comments.

LB - Got the 2-fer - someone said something on the crossword puzzle comments and I tried it. It's tricky. PM me if you want a hint.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 17, 2020, 04:50:40 AM
Two pangrams and a genius. Woohoo!

ETA: two-fer, and an easy one today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 17, 2020, 08:46:48 AM
Okay, pressure is on, but still only on 2nd cup of coffee.

SB - two panagrams and amazing.

LB - quick 3fer, lots of nice long candidate words so hope to see the 2fer soon.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 17, 2020, 08:51:07 AM
SB - hit Genius with help from my friends on the crossword puzzle comments.

LB - Got the 2-fer - someone said something on the crossword puzzle comments and I tried it. It's tricky. PM me if you want a hint.

What 2-fer did you get? I did not stray near the official solution.  I thought I had a couple good options like quince, cirque, and quininic.  The cirque was to try to get the q in the middle somewhere, which seems to have been the correct approach, but not close.  I was going to PM for a hint but was on and off the computer.  I used to read the crossword comments from top to bottom every day, because I wanted to create a puzzle to submit and wanted to see what people thought of each one.  But then I started the bee and found those hints mixed in with the comments and wanted to hold off until I had done what I could with it.  I might need to return for some help with that or LB now that I am trying at that, too.

Two pangrams and a genius. Woohoo!

ETA: two-fer, and an easy one today.

Hooray on both counts! And good to know there are two pangrams again.  I have only found one so far.

I hope today's solving goes better than yesterday.  I don't think I really had victories in any of the puzzles!

Crossword and sudokus are solved, too.  I used to be awful at sudoku, but thanks to the pandemic, I’ve gotten a lot better at it. 

This is good to know about the sudokus.  I have gotten good enough at easy that I try for speed, but the medium still takes me quite a while if I can even finish it out by straight reasoning.  Do you do the hard ones, too?

Just saw your post, ciao_yall.  Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 17, 2020, 08:58:05 AM
SB - hit Genius with help from my friends on the crossword puzzle comments.

LB - Got the 2-fer - someone said something on the crossword puzzle comments and I tried it. It's tricky. PM me if you want a hint.

What 2-fer did you get? I did not stray near the official solution.  I thought I had a couple good options like quince, cirque, and quininic.  The cirque was to try to get the q in the middle somewhere, which seems to have been the correct approach, but not close.  I was going to PM for a hint but was on and off the computer.  I used to read the crossword comments from top to bottom every day, because I wanted to create a puzzle to submit and wanted to see what people thought of each one.  But then I started the bee and found those hints mixed in with the comments and wanted to hold off until I had done what I could with it.  I might need to return for some help with that or LB now that I am trying at that, too.

I had "uniquely" which ate up a lot of letters, but set up a U and Y which was pretty useless. And then someone on the crossword thread mentioned "caribou" so voila! My hint was going to be something about Sarah Palin's nickname (remember Caribou Barbie?)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 17, 2020, 09:06:07 AM
LB, think weather.

Yesterday I got uniquely, but gave up after that. I wouldn't have found caribou however hard I'd tried.

Sudoku also comes with the Windows package (I could be mistaken as I installed this years ago). But here is the website, in case anyone is interested. https://www.webgamesonline.com/ I've also played "Guess the phrase" another game on this website. The page should have "Games for the Brain" at the top.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 17, 2020, 09:33:42 AM
I had forgotten about Caribou Barbie!

As for LB, I have a contender that I am determined to make into a solution, and it does have to do with weather, so hopefully I'm on the right track and can find a second word.

Sudoku also comes with the Windows package (I could be mistaken as I installed this years ago). But here is the website, in case anyone is interested. https://www.webgamesonline.com/ I've also played "Guess the phrase" another game on this website. The page should have "Games for the Brain" at the top.

Also, agh! A whole other page of puzzles!! Run away! ;-)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 17, 2020, 09:40:13 AM
Got the 2fer!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 17, 2020, 02:40:06 PM
I've had an easy time with the Bees for the last couple days. Phew! It would be pretty demoralizing to struggle with the Bee and marking.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 17, 2020, 03:04:18 PM

Crossword and sudokus are solved, too.  I used to be awful at sudoku, but thanks to the pandemic, I’ve gotten a lot better at it. 

This is good to know about the sudokus.  I have gotten good enough at easy that I try for speed, but the medium still takes me quite a while if I can even finish it out by straight reasoning.  Do you do the hard ones, too?


Yes, I start with medium and go on to hard.  I've gotten so that I can usually (not always!) solve the hard one in about 10 minutes.  What helped me a lot was googling information on how to solve sudoku--that helped a lot because it helped me recognize patterns that hadn't been obvious to me.  That said, I haven't mastered the more esoteric patterns on those sites (with names like swordfish).  And I'm not nearly as good as my son-in-law, who truly is a whiz!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 17, 2020, 03:49:40 PM

Crossword and sudokus are solved, too.  I used to be awful at sudoku, but thanks to the pandemic, I’ve gotten a lot better at it. 

This is good to know about the sudokus.  I have gotten good enough at easy that I try for speed, but the medium still takes me quite a while if I can even finish it out by straight reasoning.  Do you do the hard ones, too?


Yes, I start with medium and go on to hard.  I've gotten so that I can usually (not always!) solve the hard one in about 10 minutes.  What helped me a lot was googling information on how to solve sudoku--that helped a lot because it helped me recognize patterns that hadn't been obvious to me.  That said, I haven't mastered the more esoteric patterns on those sites (with names like swordfish).  And I'm not nearly as good as my son-in-law, who truly is a whiz!

Holy crow! I will have to look into this.  I think my quickest easy time is about 3:13.  I have only solved one or two mediums without guessing or checking answers, and those took 38-50 mins? And you can solve hard in 10?!! I am sincerely bowing to you and hope to improve even somewhat in that direction.  I am very quick at crosswords, but sudoku is another thing entirely. 

ETA: Okay, I have to know how fast your son-in-law is at solving!

ETA^2: Now I have a 2-fer in LB.  I had a weather-related word, but a slightly different one. Looking at the remaining letters from that initial guess, I figured out that I should try the correct word.  After adjusting, the mate of it was easy.  Thanks again for the hint, Langue_doc.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 18, 2020, 09:22:28 AM
SB - Made it to "genius" yesterday but the words I missed were so out there that I don't think I will see QB, at least until I have been playing a while and learned the words.

LB - I didn't get the official solution, but I did have a 2fer that was close.

Onward...

ETA...

SB: Wouldn't take "boytoy" this morning. Humph.

LB: Already have a 3fer so hope the 2fer comes soon.

ETA^2

LB: Got the 2fer! Not sure it's the official solution but back to SB for now.

SB: Panagram, stuck at "nice." I'd like to at least get to "amazing" before checking in with my friends at the NYT comments board.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 18, 2020, 09:53:03 AM
SB - Made it to "genius" yesterday but the words I missed were so out there that I don't think I will see QB, at least until I have been playing a while and learned the words.

LB - I didn't get the official solution, but I did have a 2fer that was close.


What were your words? Mine were the official ones.

SB wasn't too bad today; think of words ending in -y and also -y ending suffixes.

I have several long words but the two-fer still eludes me.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 18, 2020, 10:00:09 AM
SB - Made it to "genius" yesterday but the words I missed were so out there that I don't think I will see QB, at least until I have been playing a while and learned the words.

LB - I didn't get the official solution, but I did have a 2fer that was close.


What were your words? Mine were the official ones.


PIECES-SNOWFLAKE

Quote
I have several long words but the two-fer still eludes me.

PM me if you want a hint. It probably isn't the official solution but it worked.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 18, 2020, 10:32:10 AM
For LB yesterday, I got the official solution (Langue_doc's) eventually but had snowscapes as my initial contender word that I was trying to make fit.  I have a good contender today but would dearly love an E to make my wordmate work.

The bee didn't go too badly today.  We each found a dumb word, and after comparing we were just 7 points away.  I managed to recognize the final word, thanks to one my husband had found.   I keep trying boytoy too.  The other day I mentioned that there was a word that no longer seemed to be accepted: duad.  I had it several times in the database, so I think it was previously accepted but is not now.  Does anyone remember it being accepted before?

Got through the easy sudoku puzzle in reasonable time and actually finished the medium (though at 38+ minutes), thanks to some guidance I found online after Cathwen's post.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 18, 2020, 12:04:01 PM
I can't modify my previous post now, but I did get a 2-fer in LB.  Not sure if it's the official solution or not, but the words are common enough.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 18, 2020, 01:53:05 PM
Congrats on the two-fers, ciao_yall and ab_grp.

I don't think I'll get to LB today (thanks for the hints) as there's the crossword, QB, and the grading (unrelated topic!), not necessarily in this order.

ab_grp, I do recall seeing duad some time ago in one of the puzzles. SB isn't very consistent. Today's puzzle accepted the name of a comics superhero which I thought was surprising as this is the name of a character and hence a proper noun.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 18, 2020, 01:59:54 PM
Haven't found today's superhero yet... still about 20 off from genius, but it'll come.

I feel like yesterday's SB has been repeated several times.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 18, 2020, 02:12:28 PM
I feel like yesterday's SB has been repeated several times.

If you go to the bee solver page (https://nytbee.com/Bee_20201217.html is yesterday's), you can see which other puzzles used the same pangram and with which center letters.  Yesterday's exactly matched another puzzle from last June (https://nytbee.com/Bee_20190627.html).  Same letters, different middle letter (m) in March of this year (https://nytbee.com/Bee_20200327.html).  Good memory!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 18, 2020, 02:15:54 PM
Haven't found today's superhero yet... still about 20 off from genius, but it'll come.

It's a young'un.

Quote from: Parasaurolophus link=topic=1703.msg56117#msg56117 date=1608328794

I feel like yesterday's SB has been repeated several times.

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They keep getting recycled. Several words in today's puzzle have been cropping up during the past several weeks and also this week.

ETA: I can't get the quote function to work--my apologies.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 18, 2020, 04:27:42 PM
I feel like yesterday's SB has been repeated several times.

If you go to the bee solver page (https://nytbee.com/Bee_20201217.html is yesterday's), you can see which other puzzles used the same pangram and with which center letters.  Yesterday's exactly matched another puzzle from last June (https://nytbee.com/Bee_20190627.html).  Same letters, different middle letter (m) in March of this year (https://nytbee.com/Bee_20200327.html).  Good memory!

Oh! Thanks, I didn't know about that! I don't durdle around the site much.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 18, 2020, 04:34:30 PM
I feel like yesterday's SB has been repeated several times.

If you go to the bee solver page (https://nytbee.com/Bee_20201217.html is yesterday's), you can see which other puzzles used the same pangram and with which center letters.  Yesterday's exactly matched another puzzle from last June (https://nytbee.com/Bee_20190627.html).  Same letters, different middle letter (m) in March of this year (https://nytbee.com/Bee_20200327.html).  Good memory!

Oh! Thanks, I didn't know about that! I don't durdle around the site much.

I don't tend to much, either, but I thought I had seen some info like that.  As a data person, I think some of the stuff on that site is kind of neat.  Of course, I would still like to be able to find out other things like which words were included in which puzzles, which were accepted but are now not, and vice versa.  Maybe it's in there somewhere or on another site.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 18, 2020, 07:07:07 PM
I like to go here:

https://www.nytimes.com/crosswords

And read today's puzzle/comments. There is always under "reader picks" a crowd of Bee solvers who share different types of hints.

There are a few LB-ers lurking around as well. That is how I tripped over CARIBOU the other day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 19, 2020, 07:32:47 AM
Thanks for the links above.

As for today, made it to genius and got the two-fer. Now I can get on with the rest of the day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 19, 2020, 08:02:40 AM
So... what was the superhero, in the end?


EDIT: oooh, batboy. I found it, it just didn't click!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 19, 2020, 08:17:18 AM
Thanks for the links above.

As for today, made it to genius and got the two-fer. Now I can get on with the rest of the day.

SB: Last night got up in the middle of the night and made it to "amazing". It wouldn't take "orlon." Maybe I can get to "genius" on my own?

LB: Just got up and poured coffee. Found a few candidate words but a few lingering letters that need to find a home.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 19, 2020, 08:43:08 AM
I didn't know what the superhero was, either! I thought about Tallboy, but Batboy makes more sense. 

About 13 points left to QB today, so we'll see.  My LB words yesterday were not the official solution.  Of course I now realize I did not write down my solution, but I think it was STOPLIGHTS-SUNLAMP.  I also had gunships, gunsights, and topologist as contender words but couldn't get anywhere with them.  I think I wanted the E for GUNSHIPS-SOULMATE.  Oh well.  At least I got some solution.  Hopefully today's won't be too difficult.  The crossword wasn't bad for a Saturday, though the top half came way easier than the bottom half for me.

ETA: Okay, got a 2-fer.  Not too tough, luckily!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 19, 2020, 09:41:54 AM
SB - At genius with a few hints from my friends at NYT Crossword Comments.

LB - I didn't have the official either - I got SUNLIGHT-TAMPON. Today, still working it. Haven't had that "snap" yet.


Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 19, 2020, 10:09:01 AM
Mine were humans and spotlight, I think. It's interesting that there are so many possibilities.

ETA: Just deleted my paragraph on batman as I realized that I was confusing 'batman' with 'batboy'. My brain is still foggy from all the grading and late nights.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 19, 2020, 10:12:08 AM
LB - Got a 2fer!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 19, 2020, 10:22:34 AM
Did any of you get the musical word for LB?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 19, 2020, 10:47:59 AM
Did any of you get the musical word for LB?

Yep, my first word is musical (though I got it second).  Yay for all the 2-fer victories today!

Yesterday I did have humans as a possibility but didn't see stoplight in the remaining letters at the time.

Had to check the program for the final two bee words.  I don't think I would have stumbled upon them, so I don't feel too badly about it.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 19, 2020, 01:52:45 PM
Yes, a musical word. Set up the other letters very nicely.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 20, 2020, 10:59:44 AM
Yesterday's LB - sounds like we all got the official solution?

SB - ran out of gas at Amazing but don't want to check the Crossword comments because we haven't done the Sunday Crossword yet. Husband starts it and I finish it. Kind of a tradition.

LB - 3fers coming out of my ears, so the 2fer must be close. Thought I had it but ARGH on the same side thing!!!!!! And a Z would have come in handy now that we know they will accept Yiddish words.

How is everyone else?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 20, 2020, 11:21:42 AM
SB was rather blah today, but I got the pangram early on. (I thought it applied to us) and made it to QB by trying out various configurations with the letters.

As for LB I got the official solution. Got the two-fer; I tried to get to the difficult letters first. PM me if you would like a hint.

I'm still a letter awry on the crossword. I'm tempted to look at the solution. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 20, 2020, 11:23:49 AM
I got the official LB solution yesterday, too.  Today I have a couple good candidates but haven't found a match for a 2-fer yet.  So close on some of them! I'll keep at it for a bit and see if I need a hint later on.

I like your crossword tradition, ciao_yall! We usually do the crossword before the bee, though I tend to start the bee for a few minutes while getting ready in the morning.  After comparing, we got to within 5 points on the bee, and husband identified the final word.  Agreed with Langue_doc about the pangram! Easy to spot and very appropriate.  Wondering which letter you are stuck on in the crossword...

On the sudoku front, I finished easy but am stuck on medium.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 20, 2020, 11:39:29 AM
Just got the letter and the solution. I had the wrong letter for the king's name. Crossword doesn't tell you where you went wrong, but only that you should keep trying.

Can't type either of your names because I'm on the kindle, which promptly and assiduously autocorrects words it doesn't approve of. Don't remember how long it took me to get it to accept 'two-fer'.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 20, 2020, 12:12:08 PM
Just got the letter and the solution. I had the wrong letter for the king's name. Crossword doesn't tell you where you went wrong, but only that you should keep trying.

Can't type either of your names because I'm on the kindle, which promptly and assiduously autocorrects words it doesn't approve of. Don't remember how long it took me to get it to accept 'two-fer'.

Yep, I kind of went back and forth on that name a bit.  And although autocorrect is not an issue when I'm on the computer, I definitely understand the pain of it on other platforms.  I thought it was supposed to learn, but no matter how many times I correct my youngest daughter's name, it still does whatever it wants.  It's not that crazy of a name, either.  It comes up with some strange and very specific suggestions I've never heard of for other words, as well.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 20, 2020, 12:58:06 PM
Ugh, I'm not worthy.

SB - Still no panagram, stuck at "amazing."

LB - Plenty of 3fers, with odd letters here and there which tells me I'm this close.

If someone wants to PM me a clever hint, I might not read your message... but I might.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 20, 2020, 01:06:18 PM
Ugh, I'm not worthy.

You are, too! I mean you are worthy, too, but I couldn't figure out how to punctuate that.  You are too worthy! No, that's not right. 

I just came here to say that I think I figured out what word you wanted a Z for.  As for the pangram, I will try to think of a clever and not-too-obvious clue, but the one I gave my husband this morning was a little too blunt.  Langue_doc seems to have a way with words and might have a good way to present a clue.

Still have a growing list of lots of seemingly good contender words and can't figure out what might go with them.  Stupid same side stupidness.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 20, 2020, 01:48:10 PM
Still on my kindle, but here I go.

SB, think of what the three of us (and fellow posters on this thread) have in common. Think in classical language.

As for the king, I would have gotten the correct consonant if I had known the name of the person in the 'across' column.

As for being worthy, I see words only in certain configurations. There have been days when I've given up on puzzles only to find that the solution was quite obvious.

ETA Just sent PM; kindle won't let me type your name, c.

ETA2: On my computer now.
Thank you for your kind words, ab_grp. We all have a way with words, otherwise we wouldn't be on this and other threads. I can PM you the hint I sent ciao_yall if you like.

The same side requirement and the non-acceptance of double consonants and vowels continue to bug me.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 20, 2020, 02:12:41 PM
After much struggling and trying and failing with what seemed to be good words, I finally got LB in 2 words.  So many 3-fer combinations, though!  I did not get yesterday’s. 

I got to Genius in SB, but QB remains elusive—so congratulations, Langue_doc!  I did like the pangram, though, and yes, it is appropriate for this group.

I really screwed up sudoku yesterday, having to backtrack not once, but twice.  Today went better. 



Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 20, 2020, 02:18:30 PM
After much struggling and trying and failing with what seemed to be good words, I finally got LB in 2 words.  So many 3-fer combinations, though!  I did not get yesterday’s. 

I got to Genius in SB, but QB remains elusive—so congratulations, Langue_doc!  I did like the pangram, though, and yes, it is appropriate for this group.

I really screwed up sudoku yesterday, having to backtrack not once, but twice.  Today went better.

Woohoo! Congrats. I did get several three-fers initially.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 20, 2020, 02:35:43 PM
Hooray for the 2-fers! I am still working at it but feel like I am trying to force "favorite" contenders to work, so I went back to medium sudoku, got a foothold, and managed to reason it out in a total time of nearly an hour.  But, I solved it with no guessing, which is my goal.  I might try the hard one again just to see how far I get but will probably focus on LB.

Langue_doc, that was a good bee clue.  Much more straightforward than mine!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 20, 2020, 07:11:25 PM
GOT THE 2-FER! Thanks Langue_doc for the hint. I don't think I would have gotten it.

I would have hinted something about a good place to play with one's ding-a-ling... Chuck Berry fans? Anyone?

If it hadn't been for the darn same side thing I would have had HIBISCUS-SOLVENT.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 20, 2020, 07:22:36 PM
GOT THE 2-FER! Thanks Langue_doc for the hint. I don't think I would have gotten it.

I would have hinted something about a good place to play with one's ding-a-ling... Chuck Berry fans? Anyone?

If it hadn't been for the darn same side thing I would have had HIBISCUS-SOLVENT.

You're welcome; I'm on the kindle, so can't type your name.

The Chuck Berry phrase sounds like his Christmas song. I can hum the tune and these words, but can't recall the rest.

Congrats on the LB.

I just finished tomorrow's crossword. Interesting list of expressions including a British one that I haven't heard in a while.

ETA Your reference to playing with the ding-a-ling made me laugh. Sounds lewd.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 20, 2020, 07:34:38 PM
GOT THE 2-FER! Thanks Langue_doc for the hint. I don't think I would have gotten it.

I would have hinted something about a good place to play with one's ding-a-ling... Chuck Berry fans? Anyone?

If it hadn't been for the darn same side thing I would have had HIBISCUS-SOLVENT.

You're welcome; I'm on the kindle, so can't type your name.

The Chuck Berry phrase sounds like his Christmas song. I can hum the tune and these words, but can't recall the rest.

Congrats on the LB.

I just finished tomorrow's crossword. Interesting list of expressions including a British one that I haven't heard in a while.

ETA Your reference to playing with the ding-a-ling made me laugh. Sounds lewd.

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NiAD17wpEY
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 21, 2020, 08:40:40 AM
SB - Yesterday would NEVER have gotten the panagram, even with hints. Oh well, on to today's. Got the panagram first go, and now stuck on "amazing." Looks like a short one today.

LB - Looks like the official solution! And got a 2fer on the second try.

I may not be the Queen Bee of this thread, but at least I'm a form of lowbrow entertainment.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 21, 2020, 09:28:59 AM
I was trying to hint subtly toward yesterday's pangram with the way of words comment (which was sincere but also a sort of clue).  I think it's one of those words that either pops out of you or is hard to ascertain.  They happen to all of us! And lowbrow entertainment is always welcome in my book.

I was so close with LB yesterday and should have asked if I could run some contenders by one of you.  I had vestibule(s) as my main contender but couldn't figure out the second (kept trying en- something).  I also had hibiscus, biscuit(s), nebulous... Oh well! Hopefully today will work out better. 

Got to within 7 points or so on the bee today but have to go to the program to see about the last word(s) and get closure on that.  There is a nice long word that should be accepted given other similar accepted words that is not in there, and a dumb one that I think should also be considered for acceptance given the other dumb ones accepted.  At least I finished today's easy sudoku yesterday when it changed to the new puzzle, and I started the medium puzzle, so a little less on the puzzle agenda for the day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 21, 2020, 10:31:55 AM
LB will be the death of me today. Found some contenders for the first word, but still three-fers so far.

SB a couple of dishes/drinks, three plants/trees and a word that I've used only in the plural.

I got to QB by playing around with the letters. I got the drink, not knowing what it was, because I tried a word from my high school biology/zoology class that referred to a circulatory system part.

Congrats on the two-fer. Thanks for the YouTube link-- I'd always associated this tune and the words with Christmas.

Grrr! Am on kindle which keeps correcting me thinking I should congratulate you on Twitter.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 21, 2020, 10:40:26 AM
We were missing two words in the bee.  One we definitely should have gotten, and I had tried something similar but missed the obvious.  The other is definitely a word I know but not one I probably would have found unless I was just messing around with letters.  I had tried that approach but had not found that word.    I think that might be the one you were referring to, Langue_doc.

No real luck on LB yet, but I haven't had much time to focus on it.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 21, 2020, 10:41:52 AM
...'epilog'? Really? Is this some weird American variant?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 21, 2020, 10:59:58 AM
Merriam Webster accepts it as a less common variant; also accepts 'prolog'.

I hate these abbreviations!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 21, 2020, 11:02:42 AM
I was a little surprised when epilog worked!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 21, 2020, 04:21:19 PM
Wooha! Just got a 2-fer, finally, after trying many contender words.  That was a fight to the finish!

Somehow I managed to finish the hard sudoku today in a half hour after needing an hour to do the medium.  In each case I ran into a conflict at some point and used the "Check guesses when entered" to find and delete those entries and then turn the feature back off.  That's the best I can do at this point.  I am getting better at this, though.  I need to be able to do it more quickly so that I don't have to keep coming back to it and forgetting where I was each time.  I'm still confused about why the sudoku puzzles set to today's yesterday afternoon even though they supposedly set at 10PM ET.  They haven't set to tomorrow's yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 21, 2020, 05:14:42 PM
Not sure if this is your question, ab_grp, but the weekend crosswords and sudokus are available at 6 PM or so unlike the ones on weekdays which open up at 10. ETA: they open up early on Saturday and Sunday evenings.

Congrats on the two-fer.

Ciao_yall, thanks for the hints. I think my first word is probably the same as yours, but not my second one, which is a rather long one, and sort of related to yesterday's pangram. I couldn't figure out what that hint meant; I kept thinking of rebels!

I used to be able to do the medium sudoku from the Windows game pack, but haven't looked at it in a while. I do the NYTimes sudokus but have the setting on "Highlight conflicts" because I do these and the mini crossword before retiring. This is more of a brain clearing activity than a puzzle. Sometimes the next day I reset the puzzle and try to solve it without the hints. With the hints I can do the medium anywhere between 7-10 minutes, and the hard around the same time. There have been occasions when the medium took longer than the hard to solve.

I was a little surprised when epilog worked!

I've given up getting upset at what passes for acceptable words and expressions these days. I have Grammarly on my computers which corrects not only my emails but also every single sentence on Canvas. I've also learned to look up what I think are incorrect or non-standard words in student assignments because these are now acceptable. I've been meaning to keep a list of these words, but have not gotten around to doing so. Incidentally, Grammarly also keeps correcting my postings here as I'm typing this.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 22, 2020, 06:24:59 AM
Pugilist and thrown!!! Gah! I had growths initially, but then found grownup and philologist.

Today's SB was quite easy, and the pangram a delight (this is not a hint). Woke up around 4, tackled the SB, got to 87, then went back to sleep. Yesterday I found cava because I remembered the two vena cavas from my high school class, and civvy by playing around with the letters. I am familiar with civvies but didn't know that there was a singular form. I knew pica, but guessed piccata.

The crossword was so easy that I completed it before retiring last night.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 22, 2020, 08:07:14 AM
Not sure if this is your question, ab_grp, but the weekend crosswords and sudokus are available at 6 PM or so unlike the ones on weekdays which open up at 10. ETA: they open up early on Saturday and Sunday evenings.

Yep, thanks! That helps to know.  When I looked it up, it just said they come out at 10 PM ET, so I must have missed the part about weekends. 

I was trying to hint at pugilist with the fight to the finish comment.  I also had growth(s), and plinth, whorl(s), shogun(s), photon(s), rhino(s), etc.  Finally got pugilist and then was so excited to see thrown! Ciao_yall, what solution did you find?  Haven't looked at today's yet.

For the bee yesterday, I was hoping cavatappi would be in there.  We missed cava, which I am okay with, but I couldn't believe we missed papacy.  I think I tried papacity or something stupid like that. 

I think we had today's bee pangram before but with a different center letter.  It might be one of the first my husband and I had come across when we started playing earlier this year.  We are still about 6 points away from QB.

I also have "highlight conflicts" on for sudoku, but I don't turn the check answers feature on unless I get a conflict, and then I don't feel like erasing everything or trying to backtrack for the harder puzzles.  But I try to turn it off right away.  I also use the check puzzle feature for the crosswords (only when doing archive puzzles because I don't want to lose my streak).  But I think once you turn that on, you can't turn it back off.  I'll have to see if that's true.  Anyway, it's nice to have the easy crosswords at the start of the week so that there's more time to spend on other puzzles as needed.

Langue_doc, you are ahead of the game today, sounds like!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 22, 2020, 09:06:43 AM
Morning!

SB - Yesterday made it to "genius" on my own. Not sure I'll see QB until I learn the funky words that NYT uses... that said, I should have gotten all the ones I missed. But by "genius" I'm ready to move on to other things.

LB - Yesterday I got GROWNUP-PLINTHS.

On to today's puzzles...

ETA - after a coffee refill...

SB - Achieved amazing, no panagram yet.

LB - would have a 2fer if it wasn't for the darn same side thing...

Perhaps more coffee?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 22, 2020, 09:20:13 AM


I also have "highlight conflicts" on for sudoku, but I don't turn the check answers feature on unless I get a conflict, and then I don't feel like erasing everything or trying to backtrack for the harder puzzles.  But I try to turn it off right away.  I also use the check puzzle feature for the crosswords (only when doing archive puzzles because I don't want to lose my streak).  But I think once you turn that on, you can't turn it back off.  I'll have to see if that's true.  Anyway, it's nice to have the easy crosswords at the start of the week so that there's more time to spend on other puzzles as needed.

Langue_doc, you are ahead of the game today, sounds like!

In the good old days when bookstores were aplenty, I used to get sudoku books and work on the puzzles, usually in ink. Some of those had 365 puzzles, one per page, in large print. I don't turn on the 'check answers' for Sudoku, as I can work around the conflicts. Like you, I don't use the 'check' feature in crosswords as I don't want to lose my streak. I usually miss Saturdays and Sundays, or don't manage to solve them before the 10 PM deadline, so these either show up as blue or white on my crossword page.

The only reason I'm ahead today is because I woke up in the middle of the night and started working on SB--and managed to get the pangram and to genius without much effort. I just looked at LB and went aaarrrggghhh! I used to dread waking up in the middle of the night, but not so much now as I know that if it's after 3 AM, I can work on the SB for the day. I did get to QB--with the help of a word that I consider to be Hawaiian, one of Far Eastern origin, one definitely South American, and one of African origin.

ciao_yall, what were your LB words yesterday? From the hint you gave me, I suspect that the first one was grownup.

ETA: ciao_yall, I think we both posted simultaneously; plinths sounds much more succinct than my philologist! Today's SB isn't too bad; see the hints above. As for the pangram, think of a music video, especially of the performance.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 22, 2020, 09:58:55 AM
Morning!

SB - Yesterday made it to "genius" on my own. Not sure I'll see QB until I learn the funky words that NYT uses... that said, I should have gotten all the ones I missed. But by "genius" I'm ready to move on to other things.

Good morning! Or afternoon, as I suspect some of you have crossed past noon by now.  Hope the coffee helps.  Just remember that Genius is the official victory in the bee.  QB is just a cherry on top.  So, you won!

Langue_doc, I can deal with the conflicts in the easy sudoku easily enough, but when I get them in medium or hard I am usually far enough into it (but at the cost of so much time because it is so slow going for me right now) that the answer check helps.  I hope to leave that crutch behind as I get better at it (if I do).  For example, today I was cruising along in medium, feeling really good about it, and ran into a conflict.  Checked answers, and probably 70% of what I had filled in was wrong. :-(  I was reasoning it out and don't know where I went awry, but if I had to go back and undo one by one I would have gone nuts since it had already taken me at least 20 minutes to get that far.   As for waking up or being up to work on the puzzles in the middle of the night, the bee comes out at 1 AM my time, and once or twice I have been up and felt like giving it a try, but then it just sticks in my mind too much and prevents me from sleeping.  Crossword is another thing because those are pretty easy and quick for me to complete.  I had a pretty good streak going but broke it earlier in the year (May?) by accident because my phone had somehow logged me out of NYT and I thought I was supposed to use my husband's log in.  We figured it out pretty quickly when we were both doing the crossword at the same time and his letters were getting filled in really quickly (by me).  Oops.  It didn't occur to me to try to just sign in with my log in and try again.  So there went a 285 day streak.  Now I'm at 222, so it would have been over 500 if I hadn't been so dumb about it.  For a while I was doing all the archive puzzles from the beginning on, but now I just do the Saturday and Sunday archives.  I think the Saturdays were harder back then.

I still don't have any really good words for LB yet (thanks, partially, to the complete fail at medium sudoku, which I am trying to fix now).  Husband kindly woke me up earlier than usual to ask me if I was awake, so I am a bit sluggish today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 22, 2020, 12:46:44 PM
Okay, got a 2-fer after many contender words and a lot of drudgery.  I wish the medium and hard sudokus were treating me better, but I am flummoxed.  I thought a shower might bring some pep into my step, but neither that nor the coffee seems to have given me the required energy.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 22, 2020, 01:25:41 PM
Woohoo! Congrats on the LB.

I'm impressed by your crossword streak, ab_grp. Mine is nowhere near your accomplishment. As for the sudokus and other seem-to-be-stuck puzzles, sometimes a break from the puzzle helps.

I haven't even thought about LB today as I consider the QB and crossword to be major accomplishments.

Just got back from a trip to the grocery store--I should have my head examined for deciding to drive through several miles of city blocks to get to the nearest Whole Foods which was overpriced, didn't have the prepared dishes that I can find at the other locations that I used to go to before the pandemic, and had to ward off people from practically manhandling me in their attempt to get to the items on some of the shelves. So the LB will have to wait until I recover from the shopping expedition.

I've also been sidetracked by two books I'm reading, one on the Norman conquest and the other the first of the Caro books on LBJ. I think this should go on the reading thread.

Gook luck with the sudokus, ab_grp, and with your puzzles, ciao_yall. You probably got the two-fer, as you usually do!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 22, 2020, 01:37:00 PM
Thanks, and the QB and crossword (and the shopping... ack!) are major accomplishments.  I did include a little hint or two in my previous post about the LB 2-fer if you get around to that after you recover.  As for my crossword streak, once I realized that was a thing I figured I would just try to keep at it.  And nearly lost my mind when I broke it in May, then realized it was pretty freeing.  I do the crossword every morning over coffee, so why not try to keep the streak alive (but be less type A about it).  I have always loved crosswords growing up.   You mentioned a break from the sudokus, which I am trying to do, just cycling back to them now and again (no luck), but with crosswords I definitely find that a break can help if I get stuck.   Fortunately, they are usually pretty easy with the exception of proper names or "naticks". 

Anyway, please do post about the books on the reading thread, and I hope you can recover well and quickly from your trip to the store. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 22, 2020, 06:54:22 PM
Woohoo, got a 2fer! Finally!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 22, 2020, 07:31:12 PM
Woohoo, got a 2fer! Finally!
Yeehaw! Congrats!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 22, 2020, 09:32:52 PM
Two-fer and the crossword -- what more can one ask of life.

Thanks for the drudgery hint. Am on kindle, so can't type names with underscores.

ETA: and the sudokus with help from the 'highlight conflicts' setting.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 23, 2020, 08:33:39 AM
Hooray, and I'm glad the hints helped for LB yesterday.  I went through parabola(s), bilious(ly), anorak(s), and others before finally getting to laboriously and then figuring out I had to drop the ly.  As for underscores, I wouldn't be offended if you dropped mine or just called me something else.

Crossword today was kind of fun.  For today's bee, I got the pangram and genius but still have 30 points to QB.  Yesterday I missed a pretty obvious word that I won't repeat because it's in today's.  At least a lot of the letters are similar to some recent puzzles, so I am trying not to forget the ones I missed previously.

When I got to my computer this morning it was frozen, so I had to reboot, and apparently it went ahead and opened the hard sudoku without me noticing as I went about my morning coffee crosswords/bee routine.  So I am at 1 hour and 10 minutes on it with no effort thus far.  Oh well, not like I'm trying for time on that one.  I never did make very much headway with medium or hard yesterday but wasn't awakened early today so will hopefully have a better shot at them.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 23, 2020, 08:43:26 AM
LB - Yesterday I got BANKS-SPURIOUSLY. Almost first thing in the morning I would have had BUNIONS-SPARKLY.

Onward to today's!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 23, 2020, 08:49:40 AM
ab_grp, I liked the crossword too. I think my LB words were laborious and spunky (haven't looked at the solution yet). I like to get the s at the end as it also works well as an initial letter.

As for SB, I got the pangram and was short of 5 letters to genius this morning. I too noticed words from recent puzzles. Had to do a bunch of errands, so I'll have time to get to the rest of the words (hopefully) this afternoon.

It's a shame about the computer and its effect on your sudokus. Good luck solving them.

I've had on occasion to reboot my frozen computer only to find that it started updating, and nothing would induce it to let me get to it until and unless it had taken its sweet time completing the updates.

ciao_yall, I think we posted almost simultaneously. I did get the alert to check the latest before hitting 'post', but suspected that it was probably your post.

On another note, I am not going anywhere near the prep thread! no, no, no. This is my well-deserved break.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 23, 2020, 09:50:34 AM
SB - ran out of gas at "Amazing" but should hit "Genius" soon. Very close. Am starting to remember oddball words I have missed in previous puzzles so who knows, maybe I'll achieve QB? What is the prize? Can I get a Bee tattoo to match yours? With a little crown?

LB - got a 2fer! Probably not the official solution as it's two rather long words but I'll chalk it up as a win.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 23, 2020, 09:59:24 AM
Woohoo!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 23, 2020, 10:24:13 AM
Thanks for the sudoku support, Langue_doc! I got easy over with.  It's taking me longer to do those now because I'm trying to use the pattern stuff that I am trying with the harder puzzles rather than just fill them in, but I think it's a good habit to try to work on.   As for the bee, we compared and got to within one word that I am mad at because I tried something like it but had no luck.  I don't think I would have figured it out, though I probably should have.  Good luck with your solving!

Congrats on the 2-fer, ciao_yall! I have a couple contender words so far, and I think one might be a winner if I can figure out a match with the few remaining letters.  That is a big "if", and I don't want to get stuck on that word if it is not a possible 2-fer candidate.  I like the idea of bee tattoos!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 23, 2020, 01:26:58 PM
Congratulations on solving LB, ciao-yall!  I am still stuck at 3 words. 

I did get SB eventually.  I kept seeing words using letters that were not there! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 23, 2020, 03:37:04 PM
PM me - I'll share hints if anyone wants. My solution is a bit clunky so might not be the official but I was never a 4.0 student either.

cathwen I do that too. The other day I wandered away from my phone. The panagram was LOGOPHILE but I hadn't gotten it yet, was still turning the letters around in my mind. Then I jumped up, startling my husband and yelled "PIGEONHOLE!" Grabbed my phone all proud of myself... yeah, no N.

Would have been such a great word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 23, 2020, 03:46:28 PM
I PMed you, ciao_yall, and I included my contenders but put some lines before them so hopefully you don't have to see them inadvertently if you don't want to. 

And I also see lots of words that would be in the bee if there were just this letter or that.  Having an idea spring into your head and then getting back to the puzzle excitedly and realizing not all your letters there is argh.

ETA: Okay, many thanks to ciao_yall, I think I have found that solution for the LB! It works and seems to fit the clues.  Yay!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 23, 2020, 05:24:13 PM
I'm still stuck at a few points above Genius. Like cathwen, I also see words that contain letters not in the puzzle. Today I kept finding words with r in them! If only SB would accept proper nouns, I'd be an empress several times over, especially today.

Congrats to all of you who found the solutions and made it to QB and the two-fers. I'm probably giving up on today's SB and LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 24, 2020, 07:42:44 AM
Good morning SB and LB aficionados! Got the official solution to LB, rather late at night. My initial word was backyards; I thought the s would help get the second word, but no such luck. I then tried backlash, and lo and behold, the rest of the letters spelled out the second word.

As for SB, manhattan!!! mahatma!!!  I'd assumed that the latter was an honorific and although a common noun in another language, was used in English with the first letter capitalized, as in Mahatma Gandhi. Oh, well. Both words for me are proper nouns--I wasn't thinking of spirits. Made it to amazing today with the pangram.

The crossword was an easy one, which I managed to complete before retiring.

I might not be posting today or tomorrow, so Merry Christmas if you celebrate/observe the holiday, otherwise happy not-having-to-work day. I'm not doing my usual spending Christmas with family/friends as everyone I know is observing the"households" only advisory. It will be a quiet Christmas with phone calls and zooms, and a break from the internet (I hope).
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 24, 2020, 08:56:32 AM
Good morning, Langue_doc and all! Hooray on getting the 2-fer.  Without ciao_yall's help, I probably wouldn't have.  I thought about hydra but not hydraulic and was also stuck on backyards as my main contender.  Couldn't figure out what to make out of the remaining letters.  I also had barback and brushback but didn't think of backlash until I got hydraulic from the clues. 

Husband got manhattan and mahatma yesterday.  He had found mahatma in a previous puzzle, but I never see those words, or I ignore them because what is accepted is so inconsistent.  I do try proper names now just in case, but Montana is apparently nothing more than a state.  For today's, I have about 20 points to go, but it is a tough one for me.  There are a couple words I was happy to recognize as ones I had missed previously.  After husband gets to genius, maybe he will have some extra words for me.

The crossword was definitely not too bad for a Thursday.  Thursdays seem to be the trick days.  The trickiest that I have come across was Change of Heart from September 11, 2014, also a Thursday.  If you haven't tried that one, good luck if you do.  It was apparently the most-discussed puzzle at the Lollapuzzoola 7 tournament (according to puzzle description) and has 365 comments in the blog. 

I also realized yesterday that there is more to sudoku patterns than I had initially found by googling and now understand better about what cathwen was referring to.  I found some tutorials and solving videos so might try watching some of those and working on my sudoku skills a bit.  I have never been good at them and want to work to get better at seeing the patterns, which I never knew existed.  I just thought you had to try numbers iteratively until a solution worked. 

Haven't looked at LB yet today, other than to see what the official solution was yesterday.

Hope you have a very Merry Christmas and enjoy your internet down time after your phone calls and zooms, Langue_doc! We don't even have our tree up yet, as it's hard to feel like it's actually Christmas already.  Hopefully we will get moving on the cheer.   Without much on the agenda, I'll probably be around about as much as any day or days. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 24, 2020, 09:30:07 AM
SB: Yesterday - OOMPH? Really? Today, already got the panagram.

LB - Looks like we all got the official solution yesterday. Onward to today's...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 24, 2020, 09:40:21 AM
SB: Yesterday - OOMPH? Really? Today, already got the panagram.

Oh yeah! Yesterday I remembered oomph because I had missed it previously.   I tried oompahpah but not OOMPAH gosh darnit.  The other day I missed "momma" of all things.  And hooray on the pangram!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 24, 2020, 10:11:38 AM
LB - same side thing is driving me batty today.

ETA - finally got a 3-fer, so hope a 2-fer THAT WORKS will emerge soon. Grr...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 24, 2020, 11:03:23 AM
Good luck, ciao_yall! What I wouldn't give for an H today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 24, 2020, 01:49:13 PM
Still no real luck with LB, but I managed to solve the medium and hard sudokus today.  Of course, they each took about an hour (over the course of the day), but I had learned a new approach and wanted to try it out. 

Oh, and after comparing on the bee we were missing 6 points for QB and probably should have gotten the remaining word.  Oh well, close!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 24, 2020, 03:39:25 PM
Would have a 2-fer if it wasn't for the same-side thing.

Slow going today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 24, 2020, 04:07:20 PM
Finally got a 2-fer!! Whew.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 25, 2020, 10:00:50 AM
ab_grp was it the official one? I never got there. Would have had lounges-simplify but for the darn same side thing.

Onward to todays!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 25, 2020, 10:30:33 AM
Easy 2-fer today.

Back to SB... ran out of coffee at Amazing so on a refill now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 25, 2020, 11:14:03 AM
Yes, it was the official solution.  I got gypsum and then, thankfully, saw lifelong in the remaining letters and crossed my fingers! Congrats on the 2-fer today.  I have some contenders that I'm working with.  The same side stuff is an obstacle to an obvious 2-fer.  Hopefully I'll get there.

For the bee, we got to within 7 points of QB after comparing and then probably wouldn't have gotten the last word. 

I had some time last night when the sudokus came out, so I got the easy done and decided to forge ahead on medium after some wine, so I am still trying to unravel what took place there and try to solve it and then move on to hard.  At least the crossword was easy for a Friday!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 25, 2020, 11:26:28 AM
Yes, it was the official solution.  I got gypsum and then, thankfully, saw lifelong in the remaining letters and crossed my fingers! Congrats on the 2-fer today.  I have some contenders that I'm working with.  The same side stuff is an obstacle to an obvious 2-fer.  Hopefully I'll get there.

For the bee, we got to within 7 points of QB after comparing and then probably wouldn't have gotten the last word. 

I had some time last night when the sudokus came out, so I got the easy done and decided to forge ahead on medium after some wine, so I am still trying to unravel what took place there and try to solve it and then move on to hard.  At least the crossword was easy for a Friday!

I don't think I ever got "gypsum," but did get "spumone" and "spume" in various 3fer combinations so definitely got warm.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 25, 2020, 11:43:00 AM
Yes, it was the official solution.  I got gypsum and then, thankfully, saw lifelong in the remaining letters and crossed my fingers! Congrats on the 2-fer today.  I have some contenders that I'm working with.  The same side stuff is an obstacle to an obvious 2-fer.  Hopefully I'll get there.

For the bee, we got to within 7 points of QB after comparing and then probably wouldn't have gotten the last word. 

I had some time last night when the sudokus came out, so I got the easy done and decided to forge ahead on medium after some wine, so I am still trying to unravel what took place there and try to solve it and then move on to hard.  At least the crossword was easy for a Friday!

I don't think I ever got "gypsum," but did get "spumone" and "spume" in various 3fer combinations so definitely got warm.

That's funny! Spumone was my first contender! I also tried legions, genome, filmy, meiosis... but gypsum was the last one and luckily led in the right direction. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 25, 2020, 11:51:02 AM
I normally don't get the 2-word answer for LB, but today I did, after a shorter period of time than usual!  SB took more time, but I finally got Genius.   I salute anyone who gets QB with this group of letters. 

Now for the crossword!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 25, 2020, 12:18:37 PM
I think Genius is great with this group of letters, especially with that dang Y in the middle!  And congrats on the 2-fer!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 25, 2020, 03:36:30 PM
Okay, finally got a 2-fer.  And I managed to finish the medium sudoku I started last night but am struggling with the hard one.  There seems to be something interesting about it, but I don't know what to call it to be able to look it up and see if that's some kind of pattern I can exploit.  It doesn't match the patterns I've read about so far, but there are so many!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 25, 2020, 03:45:09 PM
LB, the two-fer was easy, got it bright and early this morning. SB wasn't too bad, despite a Shakespearean-sounding word. Made it to QB. Completed the crossword. Yesterday, I got the first word for LB, but couldn't get a second word. No QB either.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 25, 2020, 03:46:46 PM
I normally don't get the 2-word answer for LB, but today I did, after a shorter period of time than usual!  SB took more time, but I finally got Genius.   I salute anyone who gets QB with this group of letters. 

Now for the crossword!

Isn't that a great feeling?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 25, 2020, 04:22:55 PM
I didn't think the 2-fer was that easy, as I went down many wrong paths, but at least that is conquered for today.  And I finally finished the hard sudoku and think that is an actual pattern I found that I can make use of in the future, whatever it's called. 

Langue_doc, I think I know which word you're referring to in the bee.  If so, it has been in there before but is always one of those that I can't remember because it makes no sense to me as a word.    I guess it is literally what it is, but it definitely feels archaic.

Congrats all around!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 25, 2020, 06:57:34 PM
I'm struggling with today's SB. Real tough.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 26, 2020, 05:51:26 AM
I'm 11 points short of amazing. It's going to be a long haul today. Got the crossword though.

LB: my words were waterlilies and shadowy.

ab_grp, I just played around with yond, thinking of yon, and was surprised that it was accepted.

As for today, some words that I consider to be acceptable have been rejected, presumably because SB thinks that they are compounds, but nondairy and noonday were accepted yesterday--the latter is probably considered to be a complete word as opposed to nondairy, which I still think of as a compound despite my including it and the other two compounds in the puzzle yesterday.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 26, 2020, 07:38:18 AM
I had wreaths at one point and figured it could be the ticket given the theme, but I couldn't figure out the other word.  Finally ended up with LITERS-SHADOWY.  So, several solutions, I guess.

Haven't done much with the bee yet, but I see there are quite a lot of points to get.  I did get a pangram, at least.  Langue_doc, I thought maybe the word you were referring to was dooryard.  But yond makes sense, too.  I also got it the same way you did.  We missed noonday.  I keep thinking airdry should be in there.

Now off for coffee and crosswords and some more beeing.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 26, 2020, 08:14:52 AM
Dooryard was a surprise for me too. I might have seen this word somewhere in a novel or other writing because even though it isn't a word I use, I tried it out and it worked. Got the pangram early on today and have now reached amazing.

The crossword was an easy one for a Friday.

Liters is much more succinct and frugal compared to my wasteful use of letters in waterlilies. I was pleased though with that word as I thought "Monet!" as soon as I had entered the letters.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 26, 2020, 08:42:36 AM
"Dooryard" is what they call the front yard in Maine. Very regional.

Wow, I'm amazed at the words you all found in LB yesterday!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 26, 2020, 08:48:48 AM
Waterlilies is much more lovely and evocative than liters.  I struggled with the NE corner of the crossword today but finally conquered it.  Making some headway on the bee, but still 16 points even to genius and about 100 to QB.  Yikes! There are some words that I think should be accepted, but I guess not. 

ETA: Managed to get a 2-fer, which is sort of amazing given that the easy sudoku took me much longer than usual. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 26, 2020, 09:27:05 AM
 My solution for yesterday’s LB was retails and shadowy.  Lots of good answers, apparently!  I wish I’d seen waterlilies—so much more poetic than retails.

For yesterday's SB, I tried dooryard in a desperation move and was stunned when it was accepted.  I'd never heard of that before.  Ciao-yall, I didn’t know that it means the front yard in Maine!  One of our daughters lives in Maine; I’ll have to ask her if she’s heard it.

For today’s LB, I’m stuck on a 3-fer as usual.  I’m 28 points away from Genius on SB.  Just got the crossword, though.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 26, 2020, 09:29:29 AM
Oh my gosh, I just solved the medium sudoku in under 16 minutes.  I'm sure that's a fluke! I just checked my answers once early in because I thought I had made a mistake, but they were correct, and I turned that off again.  Whee!! Maybe that will give me some more juice on the bee. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 26, 2020, 09:56:15 AM
LB yesterday was wreath-holidays. I got it almost immediately. Very cool to see what you all are coming up with.

Today - getting 3fers and once really nice long word that leaves a few odd letters so hope I'm close.

SB - today feels like a slog. Panagram, starting to get into the weird words I recall from other puzzles and still at "Nice."

Saturdays I do the WSJ crossword puzzle and today they have a great variety puzzle from Patrick Berry who is one of my favorites. Hard to get started but once it clicks it gets going. But slow start today.

Time for a walk on this sunny winter day!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 26, 2020, 11:02:47 AM
Wow.  We finally had to look at the answers after getting to within 22 or so points of QB.  Definitely would not have gotten some of them.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 26, 2020, 11:57:35 AM
Hit the 2-fer, and "genius" after checking in with the NYT Crossword Puzzle Comments crowd.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 26, 2020, 12:24:25 PM
Made it to genius with a word from Jurassic Park. I don't think I can get to QB as I'm running out of possibilities and there's still a long way to go.

Two-fer in LB finally!

Congrats all. Sudoku medium sounds like a victory.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 26, 2020, 01:42:47 PM
Yes, high fives all around! I wonder if we'll have different 2-fers again today. 

Sudoku medium sounds like a victory.

Thanks! That time is amazing for me, definitely a victory.  And, I got the hard one done in under 40, so maybe I am improving.  I did have to check that one once and found an incorrect entry, but other than that I made it through. 

Good luck to any still slogging through the bee.  Tough one.  Some new (to me) words, for sure.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 26, 2020, 02:46:19 PM
I finally got to Genius in SB, but it was a slog—I can't imagine getting to QB.  I haven't gotten back to LB,  so I am still stuck at a 3-fer.  Congrats to those who found 2-fers! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 26, 2020, 06:12:44 PM
Stymied at 'amazing' again in the SB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 26, 2020, 06:24:49 PM
Slogging through the crossword.

At 205 points I think I've done my good deed for today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 27, 2020, 12:13:15 AM
Up in the middle of the night, and voilà...I found a solution for LB! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 27, 2020, 07:20:34 AM
Congrats, cathwen! Was that for today's or yesterday's? Looks like yesterday's official solution was FORMATION-NEBULA.  I had AMBULATION-NIFTIER.  What did everyone else come up with?

We were awakened early to a call about sad but completely expected news about my father in law, so I am not really awake yet.  But, I did get through the crossword and to 6 points from QB.  Luckily it's an easy one today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 27, 2020, 08:02:15 AM
It was yesterday's LB.  I found febrile and emulation. 

Today's LB is the usual 3-fer so far.  Congratulations, ab_grp, for getting so close to QB today!  I'm stuck at amazing. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 27, 2020, 08:31:41 AM
Mine were informant and trouble.

Made it to amazing on the SB. There's still the crossword to complete, and then the LB which I haven't looked at yet.

ETA Made it to genius and completed the crossword. It's usually the small words that get me into trouble.

ab_grp, sorry to hear that you got sad news about your father-in-law.

ETA 2: got the two-fer, an easy one, with words we use often, if not every day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 27, 2020, 09:40:53 AM
ab_grp, so sorry about your FIL.

I had "filament-trouble" for LB yesterday. At one point I found "beautiful" which ate up almost all the letters but didn't leave me anything to work with.

At amazing on SB so far so about to start LB.

Waiting for husband to start the Sunday Crossword so I can finish it. He likes to fill in the ones he knows, as well as a few joke answers. Luckily we do it in pencil...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 27, 2020, 09:55:06 AM
Thanks for the kind words! We have had several weeks to get used to the eventuality, but it is still certainly a hard loss to deal with.

Husband had the final word I needed in the bee, so that is out of the way.  I don't think there were any really out-there words, so good luck to you all.

I had some LB contenders, but what Langue_doc said (hinted at?) made me think of another that I sort of had the letters for.  Now I need a word to go with it.  I also started with "beautiful" yesterday but couldn't get anywhere with it despite leaving few letters remaining.  But I hit "ambulation" second, and that worked out pretty quickly.  Interesting that we had so many different 2-fers!

Crossword wasn't bad, just long (as usual for Sunday). 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 27, 2020, 10:49:00 AM
Mes condoléances, ab_grp. I, too, am very sorry to hear about your father-in-law.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 27, 2020, 12:06:40 PM
Thanks, Parasaurolophus! Or, merci beaucoup, I guess.  I took French for several years, but for some reason that just slipped my mind, and I thought "gracias." 

I'm still working on LB here and there and have 13 contenders but can't find mates for any of them.  One of them has got to be a solution component.  Maybe.  Several of them use up a darn lot of the letters, but the remaining ones are not being helpful right now or are on the same side.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 27, 2020, 12:52:58 PM
Finally got a 2fer after a zillion 3fers. PM me if you want a hint. Not sure it's the official solution so I may go back for more to see if I can consolidate some of the 3fers.

Genius on SB. Kind of a boring one - not much variety.

Also did the puzzles in the magazine. What an exciting day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 27, 2020, 01:32:15 PM
I also picked up several more contender words but finally got a 2-fer with an earlier one that I thought was promising (after many tries). 

Agreed that today's bee is not that exciting.  Luckily, not too long or tough overall, either. 

I did today's easy sudoku yesterday and started on the medium, returned to medium today and finally got that finished in ~30 mins, and did the hard one in about 22 but had to check my answers and delete some of them. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 27, 2020, 01:40:09 PM
Woohoo for all the two-fers! We probably have different words. I'm pleased with mine as they seemed appropriate, and are ones that I enjoy.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 27, 2020, 01:44:29 PM
I don't like my words - they aren't fun or happy.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 27, 2020, 01:53:52 PM
I can PM you my words.

ETA Just sent you my words.

Any other requests?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 27, 2020, 02:15:15 PM
I would like to know the words you each got.  One of mine is not so happy, and the other is pretty neutral.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 27, 2020, 02:17:36 PM
Just sent you my words.

ETA The second word sounds rather didactic, but it's something we enjoy, given what we have in common. At least, I do.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 27, 2020, 02:28:17 PM
Thank ya! I enjoy both of your words.  I'd probably be more successful with the first than the second at the moment.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 27, 2020, 02:41:49 PM
I can see why your second word isn't a  happy one. I should probably get cracking on working on my first word, physically and practically.

ETA Tomorrow's crosswords and sudokus are up.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 27, 2020, 04:43:24 PM
Yay! I got the tomorrow's easy sudoku done in reasonable time, but I'll wait until I have a little less brain fog and try the harder puzzles tomorrow.  Luckily, the crossword should be easy, but that is for coffee time. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 27, 2020, 05:52:33 PM
I finally got LB, after many attempts.  One word is a common baked good, and the other is something we are all involved in.  I'll be curious to see what other people found! 

ab_grp, I am so sorry to hear about your father-in-law.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 28, 2020, 06:00:07 AM
I finally got LB, after many attempts.  One word is a common baked good, and the other is something we are all involved in.  I'll be curious to see what other people found! 



I think we got the same words, brownie and educate. The official words are newbie and educator. These two do go together.

Yay! I got the tomorrow's easy sudoku done in reasonable time, but I'll wait until I have a little less brain fog and try the harder puzzles tomorrow.  Luckily, the crossword should be easy, but that is for coffee time. 

The crossword was easy--I completed it last night, after the sudokus.

Reached genius on the SB today, and made it to QB on yesterday's puzzle. There was only one strange word which I got by trying out the letters. Binning, indeed!

All I have to do today is the LB. I'm still resolutely staying away from all things academic other than going through the piles of old handouts and photocopies, and recyling them.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 28, 2020, 06:44:50 AM
Congratulations, Langue_doc, on yesterday's QB!  I don't think I've ever gotten a QB. 

We did get the same words for yesterday's LB.  I also got the 2-fer for today's LB.  It was a difficult arrangement of letters, and I just kind of stumbled on an answer. 

I, too, am staying away from anything remotely connected to the spring semester.  We start later than usual anyway (1/28), so I intend to put off the panicking until January 4.  All I really have to do, anyway, is minor tweaking.  So until then, the puzzles and some good books that my daughter (an English teacher) sent me for Christmas will fill my time.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 28, 2020, 08:42:23 AM
Thank you for the sympathies, cathwen.  I got a different solution: CIRCUITED-DOWNBEAT.   I had a couple other contenders that seemed to have some potential, like "dancewear" or "browbeaten" or "benediction".  Never got newbie, educate, brownie, or educator! Haven't looked at today's yet.  Hopefully it will be as easy for me as it has for both of you.

I am about 7 points away from QB today.  Had to guess one word, not sure if I will find the remaining one(s).  So close. 

I hope you all get to have some time off from academic stuff and enjoy the time off (and do lots of puzzles).
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 28, 2020, 09:50:35 AM
Did you make it to QB, ab_grp? I'm still a long way off.

Just got a two-fer in LB. Rather repetitious set of words, but a two-fer all the same.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: OneMoreYear on December 28, 2020, 10:03:55 AM
Happy to have found the pangram and hit genius on the bee (if I've added my points correctly; I'm playing the free version). Solved the easy sudoku in under 6 minutes, which is a good time for me.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 28, 2020, 10:12:25 AM
My LB today was also repetitious. Probably not the official solution.

Yesterday I had browned which set up dictation (left a u) or deduction (left an a). Other good words included brownout, toucan. My 2fer was incubated-drown which wasn't as fun as any solution including the word brownie! Downbeat was also in there.

SB - At amazing and found the panagram. Wouldn't take "hella" (that California hater thing) or "alee" which is always in the crossword puzzle.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 28, 2020, 10:35:56 AM
Did you make it to QB, ab_grp? I'm still a long way off.

Husband gave me a four-letter word that I had somehow overlooked, but we couldn't figure out the remaining 5-letter word that we have missed before.  Good luck!

Ciao_yall, it always bugs me when they don't take crossword answers that are not proper nouns.  Alee is one of them, aroar is another. 

I have a couple contenders for LB so far but no joy on a mate.  Congrats for all the 2-fers! I need to get back to medium sudoku, which will not be completed in an amazing time if I do complete it, but hopefully I won't have to check for errors and will be able to get to the finish.  Then more LB attempts!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 28, 2020, 12:35:56 PM
Achieved genius. I don't think I'll ever see QB... Too many weird words!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: reener06 on December 28, 2020, 01:40:49 PM
6 words and 35 points shy of QB. Got QB yesterday, which is rare for me. I think I'm going to call it quits for today. Lots of interesting words but I think I"m at my limit. I hate when they are obvious words though. I hope they are just odd.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 28, 2020, 03:28:14 PM
I managed to finish the other sudokus, slowly...  had to check my answers once on the hard puzzle but not for medium, so I will take it.

LB has still got me stymied.  I am wondering if I should revisit some earlier contenders that left few remaining letters. 

Also, congrats to Langue_doc and reener06 on the QBs yesterday!

ETA: Finally got a 2-fer.  Mine are a little repetitive as well, but no complaints. ;-) As I suspected, I had to go back to an earlier contender and work with the remaining letters.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 28, 2020, 05:01:55 PM
Woohoo, ab_grp. I was about to send you a hint. I think you, ciao_yall (congrats!) and I probably have the same words or the same endings. I'm not revisiting LB, but would like to know (tomorrow) what you both came up with.

Congrats on the QB yesterday, reener06. I'm probably a word or two short on the QB, so I might keep trying. I think there were only about 3-4 unfamiliar words today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 29, 2020, 08:20:21 AM
Woohoo, ab_grp. I was about to send you a hint. I think you, ciao_yall (congrats!) and I probably have the same words or the same endings. I'm not revisiting LB, but would like to know (tomorrow) what you both came up with.

Thanks! I see the official is JOCULAR-RUMBLING? I had CAJOLING-GRUMBLING.  I thought I had had jocular on the list but had jugular and conjugal and think I overlooked it.  Oh well, what did everyone else have?  If the ends were repetitive, probably what I got?

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 29, 2020, 09:16:41 AM
I also had CAJOLING-GRUMBLING. Got it almost immediately.

On to today's...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 29, 2020, 09:22:16 AM
Okay, two the same so far.  I got grumbling as my third contender but couldn't figure out the second (first) word for a while.

But I did get to QB by myself today! So yay for that.  There are a bunch of compound words that I thought might be in there that weren't.  I'll go see about LB now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 29, 2020, 09:52:08 AM
Got to genius pretty quickly this morning. I checked yesterday's SB and there are words I could have sworn I got that weren't checked off. Oh well. Doubt I'll ever see QB - between the weird words and my lack of patience I think I shall be a Bee-in-Waiting. A Beta-Bee. A Wanna-Bee.

Today's LB I sense will be one of those where it's nothing then *snap*. The RYE and STH is just... dastardly.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 29, 2020, 11:26:28 AM
I had cajoling and grumbling too and immediately thought of high-maintenance people who are constantly grumbling and who need cajoling. My first attempt was jumbling, but couldn't find a second word to go with it.

Last night got yesterday's QB, and completed today's sudokus and crosswords. Surprisingly easy crossword.

Today, got to genius without finding the pangram, then found the pangram--not a word that I would use. Now for the rest of the words and the QB, if that's in the cards for me.

Yays to all your victories so far and the ones to come.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 29, 2020, 11:37:35 AM
Ciao_yall, I like Wanna-Bee.  I wish you and Langue_doc good luck with the rest of the words.  I don't think any were too obscure, except one that was in there a couple puzzles ago.  Last I heard, husband had one four-letter word left to find.  He had trouble with the pangram as well.  Interestingly (well, not interesting at all), I had a dream involving the pangram item last night or two nights ago. 

And way to go on getting ahead in the puzzles last night, Langue_doc! I got easy sudoku done and am still working away at medium.  The crossword had a number of longer entries that were pretty easy to get, so that definitely helped. 

I am also having trouble with LB letters on the same side. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 29, 2020, 04:57:28 PM
Well, I am calling it a day.  I should have figured getting QB fairly easily would not bode well for the other puzzles.  Didn't manage to get a 2-fer (not even any really good contenders) on LB or solve the medium or hard sudokus! But I did get some publication revisions completed and out, so I guess I will consider that an accomplishment (that pales in comparison to puzzling accomplishments!).  I hope the rest of you had better luck than I did today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 29, 2020, 06:45:31 PM
Well, I am calling it a day.  I should have figured getting QB fairly easily would not bode well for the other puzzles.  Didn't manage to get a 2-fer (not even any really good contenders) on LB or solve the medium or hard sudokus! But I did get some publication revisions completed and out, so I guess I will consider that an accomplishment (that pales in comparison to puzzling accomplishments!).  I hope the rest of you had better luck than I did today.

Sounds like a major accomplishment, ab_grp.

I'm probably a word or two short of QB, and haven't even looked at LB. It's getting to be the time of night for tomorrow's crosswords and sudokus to be released, so that's probably my priority.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on December 29, 2020, 10:11:14 PM
Pangram took me forever to find, but it took me to genius, so there's that.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 30, 2020, 06:12:59 AM
Pangram took me forever to find.

Me too. As for today, made it to 140 but still at amazing despite the pangram which I just found. Got to QB last night; it took me forever to find the last word which was 'pact'. Didn't even get to LB, so I'm rather uncurious about the solution.

Last night I completed today's crossword and the sudokus which were relatively easy.

Easy and happy solving, all!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 30, 2020, 09:02:31 AM
I actually managed to get yesterday's pangram right away, thankfully.  I've been trying to go back to that approach so I don't get caught up in letter patterns later on and overlook it.  It did take me a bit to get today's, but I finally got to genius, so good enough for now.  Congrats on QB last night, Langue_doc! My final word was "adapt".  I was nowhere near the LB solution yesterday.  Hope today's is easier. 

And a Christmas present arrived yesterday, the NYT Puzzle Mania! After much hoop jumping, husband was able to secure two copies for me.  I've never had one before and am looking forward to trying all those puzzles at some point.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 30, 2020, 09:15:14 AM
Yesterday - Never found the panagram but made genius. Plenty of 3fers but no 2fer. Still, like ab_grp there were some accomplishments outside of puzzle world. Took a few long walks, caught up with a few friends and did some Spring prep.

Back to it...

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 30, 2020, 11:25:16 AM
LB - tripped over a strange 2fer this morning, gonna keep it even though it's probably not the official solution.

Yesterday I actually got close. I would have had sympathetic-crab but for the same side thing. Didn't know crabmeat was one word.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 30, 2020, 11:33:15 AM
Yay for your accomplishments yesterday and 2-fer today! Sometimes I am unclear on what they will consider to be one word or not.

We finally gave up on the bee and checked answers.  Missed a couple long ones, primarily.  I completed the medium sudoku without having to check answers but in an unexciting time.  Struggling a bit now on the hard one, but I'll go look at LB again.  I only have one contender thus far.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 30, 2020, 11:41:56 AM
Ap_grp, what a wonderful Christmas present!  Have fun with that!

I am 35 points away from QB.  That may be the closest I’ve ever come to that exalted status!

Today’s LB solution remains elusive, but I’ve solved the sudokus.  I haven’t attacked the crossword yet.  Wednesday is usually when the crossword gets interesting. 

Yesterday was a busy day, so I barely looked at the puzzles.  But I am quite sure I would never have thought of crabmeat for LB.  Two days ago, though, I got cajoling and grumbling, as some of you did. 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 30, 2020, 12:45:23 PM
Yes, it was a great and thoughtful gift.  I had mentioned it a year or two back, but we are not in a delivery area so could not figure out how to procure one.  Whee! And great job on the bee.

I finally got what seems to be a really good LB contender that used up almost all the letters, but I can't figure out a word to go with it! Argh.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 30, 2020, 04:04:11 PM

And a Christmas present arrived yesterday, the NYT Puzzle Mania! After much hoop jumping, husband was able to secure two copies for me.  I've never had one before and am looking forward to trying all those puzzles at some point.

Sounds like a fitting present. I looked into this on the NYTimes website, but it is listed as "sold out".

I'm probably a couple of words short of QB. As for LB, got one word, and decided that it was too much hassle to try to find a two-fer.

I'll be taking a break from the fora the next couple of days--might look in, but not post.

Happy New Year fellow puzzle aficionados. May you all be blessed with lots of puzzles!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 30, 2020, 04:09:46 PM
Hope you have a very happy and wonderful New Year, Langue_doc! Enjoy your time!

ETA: I just recalled that my husband said the puzzle mania was sold out when he looked, too.  But he said he was able to put some sort of email alert on for when it was back in stock (I looked and don't see that option, so I will ask him how he pulled that off, unless I just missed it).  He had told me that there was another gift he was trying to get and that if he received an email he'd have to drop whatever he was doing and go attend to it, but I had no idea what the gift was until yesterday.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 30, 2020, 04:52:11 PM

ETA: I just recalled that my husband said the puzzle mania was sold out when he looked, too.  But he said he was able to put some sort of email alert on for when it was back in stock (I looked and don't see that option, so I will ask him how he pulled that off, unless I just missed it).  He had told me that there was another gift he was trying to get and that if he received an email he'd have to drop whatever he was doing and go attend to it, but I had no idea what the gift was until yesterday.

Yeehaw! I just found my pack in the Dec 13th paper. I'm glad you posted about the puzzle pack, as these pages would have gone into the recycling pile and onto the curb tonight. It was wedged in the Real Estate section that I never open.

The presents you get by reading the fora! I'll probably be pigging out on the Twilight Zone and other shows, but am looking forward to tackling these puzzles next year.

ETA I get only the weekend NYT, so I didn't have to look through several piles of papers.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 30, 2020, 06:31:21 PM
I finally got LB, but frankly, one of the accepted words (tried in desperation) sounds like a fake word.  Tomorrow I'll be curious to see what others have found.  I'm at 200 points on SB, and feel wrung dry.  No QB for me!  Perhaps another day.  Hope springs eternal!



Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 31, 2020, 08:57:27 AM

ETA: I just recalled that my husband said the puzzle mania was sold out when he looked, too.  But he said he was able to put some sort of email alert on for when it was back in stock (I looked and don't see that option, so I will ask him how he pulled that off, unless I just missed it).  He had told me that there was another gift he was trying to get and that if he received an email he'd have to drop whatever he was doing and go attend to it, but I had no idea what the gift was until yesterday.

Yeehaw! I just found my pack in the Dec 13th paper. I'm glad you posted about the puzzle pack, as these pages would have gone into the recycling pile and onto the curb tonight. It was wedged in the Real Estate section that I never open.

The presents you get by reading the fora! I'll probably be pigging out on the Twilight Zone and other shows, but am looking forward to tackling these puzzles next year.

ETA I get only the weekend NYT, so I didn't have to look through several piles of papers.

Fantastic!! What a find! I'm so glad you have the pack and hope you enjoy it after your show binge.  I asked husband last night, and apparently he started looking in the NYT store online early in December and was able to put an email alert on while it was "coming soon", not sold out.  He had called to see if he could subscribe for Sunday print version (we have online subscription) just to get it, but no delivery anywhere near here, unfortunately.  Guess we'll have to keep an eye out this year.  Anyway, yay!!

And great that you found a 2-fer, cathwen.  It never feels as good when you get one but feel iffy about one of the words, as I did with my first one and the "spotch".  I haven't looked at the official answers yet because I still have yesterday's hard sudoku on my screen and want to see if it will let me try to finish that.  If I switch over, it might reset to today's puzzles.  The contender I had that used the most letters was "confirmed", but I couldn't figure out what to do with the remaining letters.  Definitely keep up the QB hope.  It is tough.  And today's bee has a LOT of points.  I am still not at genius, something like 15 points to go despite having a ton of words.  Gotta make some pizza dough and try again later.   
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on December 31, 2020, 09:06:04 AM
LB - Yesterday I had "crowned-damnify." I didn't know that was a word, but I kept seeing "indemnify" and thought "oh heck I'll just try it."

Then I woke up at 3 AM to the new puzzle and found another 2fer pretty quickly. Not as weird as "damnify." I'll keep it.

SB - stuck at amazing yesterday, then looked at the solution today and there were a few words I could have sworn I got. Well, if there was a computer error I'm sure the crowd on the NYT puzzle thread would raise holy heck so it might be ones I thought I got yesterday but didn't realize were on the list.

Today, found a rather strange panagram and am still stuck at great.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 31, 2020, 09:08:12 AM
Interesting about the strange pangram today, ciao_yall.  I found one that is pretty normal, so it sounds as if there are at least two, which makes sense given the number of points.  Congrats on the 2-fers!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on December 31, 2020, 09:11:37 AM
Had to chip in! Two pangrams today, one run-of-the-mill word, the other related to other words we all know. The words aren't too difficult, mostly good old English words; it helped to come back after breaks. Think variations on numbers. Made it past genius though. Haven't looked at LB.

Now back to my vacation mode. Happy solving, all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on December 31, 2020, 10:11:27 AM
LB - Yesterday I had "crowned-damnify." I didn't know that was a word, but I kept seeing "indemnify" and thought "oh heck I'll just try it."

Then I woke up at 3 AM to the new puzzle and found another 2fer pretty quickly. Not as weird as "damnify." I'll keep it.

SB - stuck at amazing yesterday, then looked at the solution today and there were a few words I could have sworn I got. Well, if there was a computer error I'm sure the crowd on the NYT puzzle thread would raise holy heck so it might be ones I thought I got yesterday but didn't realize were on the list.

Today, found a rather strange panagram and am still stuck at great.

I had damnify also for yesterday's LB (with crowded).  Like you, I thought it was weird and was stunned when LB accepted it.  I haven’t solved today's LB yet, and I'm stuck at Amazing in SB.  Lange_doc, thanks for the pangram hint.  I'll keep trying! I do have one of them, but the other is still hiding from me.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on December 31, 2020, 11:07:17 AM
Yes, thanks for the hints, Langue_doc! I finally got to genius, and after comparing and trying a little longer to get a few more words, we were still about 19 points from QB.  Two of the remaining words were ones I have found before, so I was a little mad at myself about missing them this time.  The final word was so close to so many I tried! Oh well.  Good luck on it. 

The LB solution from yesterday was definitely not in my list or close to it, even though I had 20+ reasonable contenders (I thought).  Maybe today's will be more forgiving.

At least I was able to finish off yesterday's hard sudoku and can now start on today's LB and sudokus. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 01, 2021, 08:22:03 AM
Yesterday

SB - hit "genius" after some help from my friends at the NYT Crossword Puzzle comments. Wow... QB must be elusive. Checking yesterday's official answers I only missed one obvious one (entitle) one mediumly odd one (thine) and ???? (tilth. What the ??? is a tilth?)

LB - didn't get the official answers, but got two 2fers "chunkier-remotes" and "munchies-stoker." Both pretty quickly.

Happy new year everyone, and happy solving!

ETA - almost got a 2fer in LB except for the same side thing. Grrr...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 01, 2021, 09:54:07 AM
Happy New Year!

I didn't manage to solve yesterday's hard sudoku so still have that up to try again at.  Didn't look at the LB answers, but I only came up with a few contenders that didn't seem to lead anywhere.  Lots of others would have worked if only the same-side rule didn't apply.  I would have gotten away with it if not for the meddling rules!

But I did get to QB by myself today, so hooray.  It's a short puzzle, thankfully.    Yesterday I managed to miss loonie and toonie, which I usually find.  And eolith... I tried eolite and thought I had tried eolith.  Wasn't sure, but it sounded like something.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 01, 2021, 10:07:08 AM
Didn't make it past Amazing yesterday. Too many words!

Made it to Genius pretty easily today, however, and I'll continue hunting for the QB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 01, 2021, 04:32:28 PM
Hope you had a successful hunt, Parasaurolophus!

I got yesterday's hard sudoku and today's easy and medium sudoku done but am still struggling with today's hard sudoku and LB.  I have some contenders, but no luck yet.   
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 01, 2021, 05:03:02 PM
ab_grp, same here. Lots of 3fers and good candidate words, but just not coming together.

SB - hit genius.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 02, 2021, 08:53:08 AM
Yeah for genius!  I had basilisk, blackjacks, absurd... will have to see what the solution was after I (hopefully) finish yesterday's hard sudoku.

Another loooong bee today.  I am at genius (just exactly), but still no pangram.  Husband is close to genius and also has not yet found a pangram.  Time to get on the other puzzles and get back to it later.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 02, 2021, 08:59:11 AM
I found blackjack, but not disturb which was part of the official solution. Maybe because blackjack was such a weird word, I didn't try as hard as I could have to find a word that ended with b?

Also had some great combinations with odd letters left: adjust-tailback (no r) and jurist-tailback (no d)

Early on I found jailbirds-stuck which would have been a great 2-fer but for the same side thing.

Onward to today's - looks tricky.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 02, 2021, 09:41:02 AM
I had blackjack but figured I couldn't find a word that started with k or ended with b, so I figured blackjacks was more likely.  Oops... I should have tried harder on that, too.  Only one contender so far today, and likely not to work given all the odd remaining letters. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 02, 2021, 09:49:05 AM
I have found a few words in today's letterboxed which eat up a lot of letters but don't set up a 2fer. An "e" would really help...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 02, 2021, 10:44:52 AM
Found a 2fer!

Still stuck on "great" for SB. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 02, 2021, 10:54:56 AM
Thanks, ciao_yall! Well, husband finally found the pangram and then another after we had compared.  Not sure I would ever have figured them out.  We had one word left that we couldn't find, and of course it's one we both should have known.  Oh well.  At least I am now free to pursue other puzzles.  And I have to get some duolingo in. 

ETA: Double thanks for the hint! I found a 2-fer, probably same as yours, if your hint was for the second word.  Many thanks!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 02, 2021, 12:15:26 PM
Well, I made it to Genius and beyond today in SB, but I don’t think that QB is on the horizon, especially since I have not found either of the two pangrams that are allegedly hiding there.   I almost made QB yesterday, though! Just one word shy, but I felt like conking myself on the head with a dictionary when I looked at the answers because the word I missed is built on another word I had found.  I should have gotten it!

I haven’t gotten LB for the last day or two, but I got the (a?) 2fer today. 

And I solved the sudokus, but I thought that both the medium and the hard ones were more difficult than usual.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 02, 2021, 12:21:15 PM
What's driving me bananas is yesterday one of my 3fers was absurdist-tub-blackjack which was *this* close to the actual solution! But since I kept thinking "blackjack" was too weird a word I didn't follow up on it.

ab_grp you are welcome! I found it the nanosecond after I sent the message saying we should try a team effort...

Hit genius, no panagram but good enough for today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 02, 2021, 12:33:24 PM
Cathwen, which word did you miss yesterday?

I think the past few days of LB have been pretty tough.  I likely wouldn't have gotten a 2-fer today without ciao_yall's help.

As for the pangrams, if you get one you should get the other.  And they give a lot of points together!

I finally finished yesterday's hard sudoku.  It gets to me that I don't notice leads that I should.  I guess stepping away does help, though sometimes it seems like holding certain patterns in my head helps (e.g., this set of numbers has to be here), and I lose that momentum after being away.  But I am sad to hear that today's are more difficult than usual even for you, cathwen! I have a few entries in the medium one but only have notes in the hard one so far.  Usually I can at least get one entry in the first minute or two on hard.   I'll keep cycling through, but I think since it's a weekend tomorrow's will come out this afternoon, too.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 02, 2021, 01:37:31 PM
The word I missed yesterday was toponymy.  And I had toponym!  Grrr!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 02, 2021, 02:54:38 PM
Ah, yep! After they had one in there a few days ago (homonymy?) that I missed, I keep trying to add a y to those just in case.  Of course there wasn't a mononymy, apparently.  I also think there is a word in there that I have tried before numerous times to no avail, so maybe they added it or I am just mistaken.

Finally finished medium sudoku today but had to check my answers once or twice (luckily none were incorrect, at least).  Trying to finish the hard one before the next batch comes out.  I think I got somewhere with it, but then I had to break for lunch, so hopefully I can pick back up.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 03, 2021, 08:20:29 AM
Good morning! I got to QB by myself again, which is a nice way to start the day.  The word I missed yesterday was "modem".  I did finish the hard sudoku from yesterday, finally, with some checking and deleting of entries, and I got today's easy out of the way and started the others.  Still working on the medium and hard sudokus, and I see that LB has some interesting letters to contend with.  Looks like ciao_yall found the official solution yesterday, PUBLIC-COXSWAIN?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 03, 2021, 08:50:21 AM
Morning!

Yeah, pretty much tripped over the LB solution yesterday.

Slow start this morning on the puzzles, but going to read the actual physical paper for a while.

QB? ab_grp that's impressive!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 03, 2021, 09:36:44 AM
Thanks about the QB, but it is a pretty short bee today, and there are enough recent ones that have haunted me that I was not about to forget today.  It's good that it was short given the long Sunday crossword, but luckily that was pretty easy.  Enjoy your reading!

I did manage to finish today's medium sudoku without having to check answers.  Hopefully I can finish the hard puzzle, too.  Two contenders so far for LB, neither that promising.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 03, 2021, 02:01:06 PM
I am stuck at "amazing" for SB, and lots of 3fers. So hope to achieve "genius" and the 2fer... soon.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 03, 2021, 03:20:53 PM
I'm at Genius today for SB, but have not solved LB.  I have some great words, but can't make them work together.

Ab_grp, congratulations on QB! 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 03, 2021, 09:21:58 PM
With a few hints, got SB "genius." With a few hints AND a search through thesaurus, got LB. It was a gnarly one!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 03, 2021, 09:34:51 PM
I am stuck at "amazing" for SB, and lots of 3fers. So hope to achieve "genius" and the 2fer... soon.

Yeah, it's a hard one today. I think I give up.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 04, 2021, 08:57:55 AM
Thanks, Cathwen! And congrats on genius.  I have four-ish contenders in LB, but still no luck and am about to call it a day.  I now have 3 puzzle tabs open for today's hard sudoku, LB, and tomorrow's sudokus.   Agh. 

I realized I never actually posted the above last night.  The bee today is really hard! I am at 81 points, still no pangram.  Looked at the LB answers from yesterday, not even close. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 04, 2021, 10:13:32 AM
Woke up at 4 am, stuck at "amazing" on SB and found a weird 3fer pretty quickly on LB.

On the NYT Crossword comments board there is a whole sub-crowd of SB fans who post hints. They have their own lingo as well - I think they call it getting "emu'd" when a word that won't that is usually in the crossword doesn't pass in the SB. But I'm not quite sure. Today it wouldn't take chacha. So I guess I got emu'd?

There is a smaller sub-crowd that does LB and also posts hints. That is how I found last night's solution. They also have their own word - you will appreciate this - "spotch" - for weird words that make solutions. Ha! As in "I found a solution without a spotch in it."

What really threw me on the last few days' solutions was that LB usually tries to use as few letters as possible. So between the spotches and the many resuses of letters I think it's time to enter a brave new world of LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 04, 2021, 10:47:41 AM
Yay about the 2-fer last night, ciao_yall.  Sorry I missed that! That is so funny about spotch.  As far as the emus go, my interpretation from the crossword comments is that the emus are the censors of the comments page.  So sometimes comments don't show up, and people figure the emus are the cause because they posted something that was taken as offensive or such.  But I haven't read the comments thoroughly in a while, so I could be wrong.  That's my recollection, at least.

We finally got the pangram in the bee.  Well, husband got it, I declared that I would never get it, and then I saw it right away.  Funny how that works.  We got a few more points but were still about 20+ points from QB and gave up.  One of the words we missed was obvious, and we usually get it.  But the other four were more obscure to us and would likely not have been identified unless we stumbled upon them.  I tried something very close to one of them but no cigar.

Managed to finish today's medium sudoku in a little under 40 minutes, continuing from yesterday, no errors.  I was then doing pretty well at continuing the hard one and realized I had a problem, checked answers, had to delete a bunch, and had to revisit my assumptions for some cells.  Oh well, I will try again.  Still haven't solved yesterday's, either, so plenty on the agenda.  And I only have one (poor) contender word in LB so far.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 04, 2021, 10:53:03 AM
Thanks ab_grp for the cross-cultural tip!

Went over there after I managed to hit "genius" on my own. Still going to be there for a while - I can't quite get some of the more arcane ones.

Also tripped over the solution to the LB. Well, it was a good hint and I got it right away. So be forewarned if you go visit there - spoilers abound!

Back to prepping and college politicking.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 04, 2021, 11:49:09 AM
I've been feeling quite pleased with my SB solutions. On Jan 1, got to QB within 30 minutes without even having to play around with letters--decided that this was an auspicious beginning to the New Year. On other days I've been making it to almost QB, but deciding not to pursue the solutions to the bitter end. I've also been finding the pangrams without much effort except on the day it was 'mollycoddle' or something similar. Despite not finding the pangram, I made it to at least 40-50 points above genius.

As for LB, I tend to give up easily as that's the lowest on my list of puzzles. I find several first words and give up if I can't fit the remaining letters into a single word. Coxwain was one of my first words, and if I had tried harder, I might have found the first word and then managed to get coxswain as my second one. I was nowhere near the solutions to yesterday's LB. I wish I could be enthusiastic about LB the way you all are (sigh!).

I've been chugging along with the crosswords. Sunday's took a long time to solve. I've been managing to solve them before going to bed which means that I'm a day ahead with the crosswords and the sudokus. I don't think this trend will continue once classes begin (sigh!!!)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 04, 2021, 02:24:45 PM
I never got back to LB yesterday.  Today's LB is confounding me.  I've found some very long words that ought to leave letters that can be made into another word, but no solution is presenting itself yet.  Not sure I'll get back to it later. 

I thought SB was kind of hard today.  I did find the pangram and made it to Genius, but it was an effort.  I am annoyed that they rejected chacha.  Do they consider it a hyphenated word, perhaps?  Come to think of it, on the rare occasions when I have written it, I do hyphenate it:  cha-cha. 

Langue_doc, congratulations on your frequent QBs and almost QBs! 

I got the sudokus today, but yesterday--oof!  Does anyone else suffer from what I call "fat finger syndrome"?  That is, you think you're entering one number, but instead your finger is between two numbers and has actually entered the one you did not intend.  Usually, I notice that, but not always!  And yesterday was a fat finger syndrome day.  I had to backtrack a couple of times to undo the mistake (which had multiplied to mistakes).  Sigh.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 04, 2021, 02:53:35 PM
cathwen, I always, always, try chacha and then chachacha with no luck. The program does however accept another reduplicated word (think height of fashion) which I find to be rather inconsistent on the part of SB.

My fingers are always typing the wrong key, especially on the phone!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 04, 2021, 03:16:58 PM
Congratulations on starting out of the gate so strong this year, Langue_doc!

I also keep trying chacha.  There are a couple other words that seem similar that are accepted, one of which Langue_doc alluded to.

I definitely have finger issues on my phone, usually with the crossword.  If I don't check carefully, I sometimes end up being misled by my earlier typo.  But I do think that can propagate much further in sudoku.  I tend to get more tripped up there with trying to remember what the candidates were in a cell if I entered a mistaken entry.  I can usually backspace and repopulate it, but if I deleted the entered number as a candidate elsewhere and can't remember where it was, that can be an issue.

Finally finished today's hard sudoku after much back tracking.  Still working on yesterday's!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 04, 2021, 04:24:22 PM
I'm happy to share LB hints. Not sure I would have found it myself. Combination highbrow/lowbrow words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 04, 2021, 05:25:54 PM
I'm tempted to ask for a hint as I'm truly stuck on LB. I did get several interesting first words though.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: OneMoreYear on January 04, 2021, 05:30:43 PM
I'm impressed with those of you who can solve the medium and hard sudoku puzzles online. I can do the easy ones online, but have to print the medium and hard ones to use my solve strategy.

I don't think I'd be successful on the LB, even if I had a subscription; SB is enough spelling for me with only 7 letters to use. I'm not a good speller, such that even common words look wrong to me even when they are spelled correctly, but the bee is a fun way to continue to attempt to improve, and it's motivating to see the excitement on this thread.

Happy solving, everyone!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 04, 2021, 08:10:44 PM
Tomorrow's crosswords and sudokus are done; made it to QB; failure, alas on LB.

I finally completed the preliminary vertex puzzles, so the program now "allows" me to play the daily puzzles. This one probably gets released at the same time as SB and LB, so I'm done with my puzzles for the day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 05, 2021, 06:55:49 AM
I'm impressed with those of you who can solve the medium and hard sudoku puzzles online. I can do the easy ones online, but have to print the medium and hard ones to use my solve strategy.

I just started solving them myself (and not well or quickly), but I have found a solving technique that is doable via online entry (put in candidate entries for any numbers for which there are only two possible locations in a 3x3 container).  Some people do all candidates, but I think that would be hard to keep track of (though I haven't tried yet).  I'm sure there are more sophisticated ways of solving, but that approach has really helped me at least get a little better at it and is easy to do online.  I don't know for sure if that is what they refer to as Snyder notation. 

As for LB, that was really impossible for me for a while.  I think it's because I initially thought you had to physically draw the connecting lines between letters in the word (you can do that but don't have to... typing in is quicker).  I think that constrained my thinking way too much, because I would be trying to figure out where to start and trying to always go in the same direction.  That's probably something wrong with my mind.  Once I realized you can just type in words that you see, it became a lot easier and more like the bee but just with different constraints.  Sometimes the answers pop out, but a lot of times it can be pretty tough.  I haven't gotten many 2-fers lately.

Yesterday I had flunky as my only contender but did not get and probably never would have gotten aperitif.

Congrats on QB yesterday, Langue_doc! I tried dachi I think but not dacha, should have gotten chai (as part of the acai acacia chai we look for), and I don't think I would have gotten indica or indicia, though I had jokingly suggested indicand.  Interestingly, it looks like indicia was in the database but not indica, so maybe they added indica at some point? Anyway, that is a huge QB in my book.   I haven't done much with today's yet.  Still gotta do coffee and crosswords.  And try the new sudokus!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 05, 2021, 10:11:46 AM
Yeah, I found "flunky" pretty quickly, but "aperitif?" Like I said, when I went over the the NYT crowd I saw a pretty clear hint. Don't think I'll be going up there again unless desperate. I was especially proud yesterday of "pyrite," "epaulet."

LB - Found a 3fer this morning. SB - Up to "nice" but it wouldn't take "coir" so I think I'll do real work for a while.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 05, 2021, 10:37:39 AM
Pyrite and epaulet are good words! I haven't looked at LB much yet other than to note which letters might be more difficult.  Of course, a word that uses most of them jumped right out at me, but same side syndrome...

But ayeeeee I solved the hard sudoku in just under 30 minutes! I did have to check my answers one time after running into an issue but just had to delete one entry and turn that back off and was able to finish.  I'll take it.  Still working on medium, which is already over 30 minutes. 

Husband got to within 1 point in the bee today, so we counted the numbers of four-letter words we had starting with different letters, and he was able to figure out the final one.  He had to help me with my final three words. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 05, 2021, 01:14:43 PM
I would have had a 2fer if not for the same side thing. Grrr.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 05, 2021, 01:24:43 PM
Argh I just came up with what I think is a really good LB contender word but can't figure out what goes with it!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 05, 2021, 01:42:50 PM
I'm well past genius on SB, but haven't found the pangram yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 05, 2021, 02:22:29 PM
It took me a lot longer than usual to find the pangram today, though not as bad as a couple days in the recent past.  Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 05, 2021, 02:51:31 PM
I probably have all the words except for the pangram, which has so far refused to jump off the page. I might just give up on this one.

Coir and noil are some of my favorite attempts in SB, despite knowing that these words aren't recognized by the program. I keep forgetting about chai and acai; I should know from experience that these two show up with such predictable regularity. Chai was the last word I found either yesterday or the day before.

Woohoo ab_grp on solving the hard sudoku.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 05, 2021, 03:07:44 PM
Thanks! I just managed to finish the medium in waaaay too much time, but no mistakes along the way that needed to be rectified.  I think having one of my husband's spectacular chocolate chip cookies helped me to find the inroad I needed.  I think these are the first cookies he's ever made for me, and they are so good they're dangerous.  But, if they are potentially the key to future successes in sudoku, I'd probably better keep eating them.  I still have the hard sudoku from 1/3 to finish (nearly 3.5 hours of clock time into it so far), so maybe I should ask him to pop a couple more in the oven.

There's another word that I think should be in the bee today, and I keep trying it each time the relevant letters come up.  But you never know if they will add the words in the future, so it might be worth it to keep trying.   I can try to give a clue to anyone who feels like PMing.

Uh oh.  I think I am lost in the sudokus.  I went back to the one I had just finished and clicked the play another sudoku button, which I was surprised to see there considering I thought I had finished them all for the day, and now there is a hard puzzle there that has not been started yet with today's date! Ack.  Which one did I just solve? Holy hand grenade.  I think something might just be wrong, because switching back and forth between easy/medium/hard, they're getting switched around (says I finished easy in 1:15:something and medium in 4:something instead of vice versa).  I do think the hard one is the one I did earlier today because it has that 517 wall that seems familiar.  Hmm.  Sorry for the tangent, but if anyone else notices anything else weird, please let me know.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 05, 2021, 04:14:04 PM
I got to genius on today's SB, but just.  I did find the pangram, a word I was sure would be rejected, because although it adheres to rules of English word formation, it seems unlikely that it would ever be used in normal conversation.  At least, not very often.

Ab_grp, you are right about always trying words that have been rejected.  One case in point is "annal," a former reject, which a friend of mine complained about rather strongly (I'm sure she wasn't the only one).  Then they added it!  I am hoping that "coir" will be added someday.  I always try it.  Same with the much-mentioned "chacha"! 

Yesterday, I got "flunky" for LB, but did not get "apéritif."  I have failed to solve today's LB, although I've found a lot of good words.  The best I can get is a 3-fer.  If I have time, I'll get back to it this evening.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 05, 2021, 06:22:38 PM
Made it to genius on my own.

After several 3-fers and same-side thwartings, went to the NYT comments thread where I got a hint that led me to the 2fer. Again, not one I think I would have found on my own. Maybe because I didn't think it was a real word?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 05, 2021, 06:36:00 PM
Thanks! I just managed to finish the medium in waaaay too much time, but no mistakes along the way that needed to be rectified.  I think having one of my husband's spectacular chocolate chip cookies helped me to find the inroad I needed.  I think these are the first cookies he's ever made for me, and they are so good they're dangerous.  But, if they are potentially the key to future successes in sudoku, I'd probably better keep eating them.  I still have the hard sudoku from 1/3 to finish (nearly 3.5 hours of clock time into it so far), so maybe I should ask him to pop a couple more in the oven.

There's another word that I think should be in the bee today, and I keep trying it each time the relevant letters come up.  But you never know if they will add the words in the future, so it might be worth it to keep trying.   I can try to give a clue to anyone who feels like PMing.

Uh oh.  I think I am lost in the sudokus.  I went back to the one I had just finished and clicked the play another sudoku button, which I was surprised to see there considering I thought I had finished them all for the day, and now there is a hard puzzle there that has not been started yet with today's date! Ack.  Which one did I just solve? Holy hand grenade.  I think something might just be wrong, because switching back and forth between easy/medium/hard, they're getting switched around (says I finished easy in 1:15:something and medium in 4:something instead of vice versa).  I do think the hard one is the one I did earlier today because it has that 517 wall that seems familiar.  Hmm.  Sorry for the tangent, but if anyone else notices anything else weird, please let me know.

Husband seems to have started a new tradition, so yay for you both!

The sudoku timings do get switched around and are at times arbitrary especially if you take a break in the middle.

I decided, unilaterally, that there should be a category between genius and QB for those of us who score points well above genius, but do not always make it to QB. I've been giving myself the title of Supreme Bee several days this past week. I'm still playing around with the name, so on some days it's Genius Plus, and on others it's Gee!Bee!

Congrats on the geniuses to all (we have to exclude you, ab_grp), and for the two-fer, ciao_yall.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 05, 2021, 08:42:17 PM
Got it, in the end. Still a couple short of QB, alas.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 06, 2021, 06:37:14 AM
No QB for me yesterday either.

As for today, made it to genius in about 20 minutes. A word that I thought was a perfectly acceptable compound was rejected.

Pictogram, indeed! My words were product and taming. I found several other interesting first words, but couldn't get the other letters to form a single word.

Easy crossword which I completed before retiring. Did the sudokus, which I think of as workouts for my brain, so do not get emotional about my performance or lack thereof.

Happy solving, all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 06, 2021, 08:12:17 AM
Hey, I made it to genius (132) before we compared yesterday!  I like the idea of other levels.  I have given it some thought.  It's weird that they track up to genius (70%) and then skip to QB (100%).  Why not use 80% and 90%? I came up with a few ideas but figure you professors might like the idea of 80% being "bee" (B), and 90% being "alpha bee" (A).  The other ideas did not lend themselves as easily to remembering which level is which.  Just an idea!

I got to genius pretty quickly today but wasn't sure I would make it to QB... but I did! Hopefully it is the bee is as good to all of you as it was to me.  Helped to have an easy crossword puzzle.  So if we used the above system, today genius is 74 points, bee is about 85 points, alpha is about 95 points, QB is 106.  Good luck! Congrats to Langue_doc on genius so far!

Now I have more time to try to get LB and sudokus done.  I had a bunch of good LB words yesterday, I thought: dramaturg, paradigm, paramount all led to few letters left.  No luck, and nowhere near the official solution.  Today's another day.

ETA: Managed to hit a 2-fer on my second contender word! Woohoo! Now I am certain that the sudokus will be my downfall.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 06, 2021, 08:49:05 AM
ab_grp, I like alpha bee (makes me sound and feel like the head of a wolf pack). Bee is too pedestrian. You have no idea how many students complain about getting (not earning) a mere B! We could also rename the SB categories. Alpha Bee would be a much better replacement for QB (IMHO) and QB would be more fitting for 90% scores.

Congrats on making it to QB and the two-fer. I'll have to wait until later this afternoon to get back to SB. I did complete the vertex puzzle though. Like the sudokus, it's another way for me to take a break or jumpstart my brain.



Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 06, 2021, 09:01:23 AM
Yeah, I guess I can see bee being too pedestrian.  I thought of it as after genius you transcend past human into bee territory as you approach QB.  But if we want to rename other categories, there are lots of possibilities.  Possibilibees.  Har har. 

And thanks! And I actually solved the medium sudoku without errors in only about 21 minutes today, so hooray.  Maybe hard won't be too bad (though that's unlikely) and maybe I will eventually solve the 1/3 hard puzzle.  I haven't tried vertex yet, but I have absolutely no spatial ability, so I'm not sure that will ever be in my wheelhouse.  Maybe a good brain stretcher to try if time allows.  Sounds like congrats are in order for your completion of that puzzle, too!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 06, 2021, 09:11:58 AM
No QB for me yesterday either.

As for today, made it to genius in about 20 minutes. A word that I thought was a perfectly acceptable compound was rejected.

Pictogram, indeed! My words were product and taming. I found several other interesting first words, but couldn't get the other letters to form a single word.

Easy crossword which I completed before retiring. Did the sudokus, which I think of as workouts for my brain, so do not get emotional about my performance or lack thereof.

Happy solving, all!

I had "product" and "taming" in two separate 3fers but didn't put them together until I saw the hints online.

Onward to today's...

ETA: "genius" and a couple of 3fers, so hope the 2fer will appear soon.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 06, 2021, 10:25:54 AM
Got the two-fer! Effortless solution today--wish life were this easy.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 06, 2021, 10:48:31 AM
Got the two-fer! Effortless solution today--wish life were this easy.

Congrats! And true enough about life.

I did manage to solve the hard sudoku in under 40 mins, though I had to check my answers and delete some at one point.  On to chores now.  Fun...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 06, 2021, 11:22:51 AM
"genius" and a 2fer.

Went to the comments board to brag about my 2fer - someone else got mine as well as hinting a few others so I'm LB'd up.

 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 06, 2021, 11:37:03 AM
"genius" and a 2fer.

Woohoo! Congrats!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 06, 2021, 12:46:32 PM
QB! Only one weird word. Back to work now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 06, 2021, 01:06:20 PM
QB! Only one weird word. Back to work now.

Yeah! Congrats!  Husband finally made it to QB himself as well, and we each thought our final words were appropriate.

I think I just have to find some small things here or there to take care of if possible today. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 06, 2021, 01:22:28 PM
QB! Only one weird word. Back to work now.

Yeah! Congrats!  Husband finally made it to QB himself as well, and we each thought our final words were appropriate.

I think I just have to find some small things here or there to take care of if possible today.

I think I can guess the final word. I'm always frustrated at the non-acceptance of willet, a perfectly "normal" and common shorebird, yet accepting the two not very commonly-used words in today's puzzle. In any case, yaaay!

(I'm a bit distracted by today's news, so don't think I'm going to get much work done.)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 06, 2021, 03:03:42 PM
QB! Only one weird word. Back to work now.

Yeah! Congrats!  Husband finally made it to QB himself as well, and we each thought our final words were appropriate.

I think I just have to find some small things here or there to take care of if possible today.

I think I can guess the final word. I'm always frustrated at the non-acceptance of willet, a perfectly "normal" and common shorebird, yet accepting the two not very commonly-used words in today's puzzle. In any case, yaaay!

(I'm a bit distracted by today's news, so don't think I'm going to get much work done.)

He and I had different final words, so you can probably figure out what both were!

Same here regarding news and work.  I finally unclenched my jaw enough to eat a quick sandwich and do some Duolingos, at least.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 06, 2021, 05:19:15 PM
Achieved QB with help from the NYT comments thread!

Was kind of anticlimactic. And my app still lists me as "genius" so good thing I took a screen shot of the QB to memorialize the moment.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 07, 2021, 08:39:10 AM
Achieved QB with help from the NYT comments thread!

Was kind of anticlimactic. And my app still lists me as "genius" so good thing I took a screen shot of the QB to memorialize the moment.

Wahoo! Weird about the app, but that kind of thing has happened to me before.  I'm glad you got a screen shot! By the way, my final word was "whew" and husband's was "whee".

I see the LB answers from yesterday were CLEANUP-PROVOST.   I got STUPOR-RELEVANCE.  What did others get? My answer was so clean that I thought it was the official one, but I guess the official one might try to reuse as few letters as possible.  The contender I had before relevance was provenance.

For the bee today, I'm at about 90% of total (219/242 or so), so I guess alpha bee so far? I was thinking maybe "baby bee" for 80%? Not sure I will make it all the way to QB, but I will give it a try.  Husband also got to genius + and has to go in to the office for a while, so we may end up cutting it short and just comparing since we both got to at least genius and at least a pangram, which are our okay-to-compare criteria.

Hopefully today will be a better day all around.  Happy solving, everyone!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 07, 2021, 09:08:20 AM
Made it to genius earlier this morning. I'm not sure if I have the patience to find the remaining words as today's seems to be a rather wordy puzzle.

Is there more than one pangram today? Given the number of remaining points after genius, I wouldn't be surprised to find another pangram.

ab_grp, (ETA) I had assumed that the last words were whee and whew. I thought though that yours would have been the former. My last word was weigh--it was quite a struggle to find this one as I had earlier found weight and the pangram without any effort. Alpha bee you are!

ciao_yall, woohoo on being crowned QB!

LB--my words were stupor and relevance as well. The words just jumped right out when I was looking at the puzzle. I had provenance as well when I tried to redo the puzzle later but couldn't find a second word.

Completed the crossword (took a long time a-solving) and the sudokus, which also took me longer than usual, last night.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 07, 2021, 09:31:03 AM
Yay for genius, Langue_doc! It is a little wordy, and there are at least two pangrams.  I have found two, for what it's worth.  Not sure if there are others.  And it's frustrating when you have a longer word like weight but not a shorter part of it like weigh!

Today's crossword was a little time-consuming, even once things clicked.  Thursdays can be so much fun, haha.  I added Thursday (and Friday) back into my archive solving because sometimes they have some interesting tricks in them. 

I got the medium sudoku done just now in about 24 minutes with no errors, which is a great time for me.  Haven't tried hard yet. 

Three LB contenders so far, but no joy on mates yet.   I have noticed patterns of remaining letters in this puzzle and a couple others, but I haven't figured out how to use that yet or if it is just an artifact.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 07, 2021, 09:37:29 AM
Morning!

SB - Langue_Doc my last word was "weigh" as well. One of those oddballs I overlooked. But wight? WTH?

LB - On my own I got punctuator-revels, then the comments board hinted out a few others - stupor-relevance and cleanup-provost.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 07, 2021, 10:47:33 AM
LB - On my own I got punctuator-revels, then the comments board hinted out a few others - stupor-relevance and cleanup-provost.

Interesting third solution!

We finally ended up comparing lists.  Husband had none to add, but I managed to find just one more word.  Got to within 15 points of QB but had to call it a day since it is unclear how long he will be at work and then we'll have night time stuff to do once he gets home.  Had a couple missing words that we probably should have gotten.  The total today is 241, by the way, not 242 as I guessed earlier (rounding... you never know if they'll go up or down despite the decimal, so I usually assume they round up to be safe, but it's important to know the correct total if you are aiming for QB so you can see what lengths of words might be left). 

Hopefully once I get the mister out the door I can get back to LB and start the hard sudoku.

ETA: Woot! Got a 2-fer on my fourth contender word.  Once I found that word, the mate was very easy to spot, luckily.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 07, 2021, 01:06:57 PM
Surprisingly, I got LB with little effort today—it was more a case of stumbling over the words than any brilliant insights on my part.    As for SB, I’m at 215 points—so, beyond genius, but not quite Alpha Bee!  Apparently there is a second pangram, but I have not found it.

I got to genius yesterday, but hardly glanced at LB.  I was glued to the TV most of the day watching the events unroll. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 07, 2021, 01:22:19 PM
Surprisingly, I got LB with little effort today—it was more a case of stumbling over the words than any brilliant insights on my part.    As for SB, I’m at 215 points—so, beyond genius, but not quite Alpha Bee!  Apparently there is a second pangram, but I have not found it.

I got to genius yesterday, but hardly glanced at LB.  I was glued to the TV most of the day watching the events unroll.

Yay on LB! And you are at about 89.2% of the total points, so very nearly alpha bee but certainly baby bee or whatever we are calling 80% for now.  Looks like if you get another point or two, you will cross the threshold! I think I got what might be the less obvious pangram first.  Not a word I would tend to use, nor do I think I have ever heard it used, though it is not foreign or what I would consider obscure.

I don't have a TV (well, not one with cable or hooked up to anything but the dvd player) but was glued to the online news all day, too.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 07, 2021, 01:36:11 PM
Yay to y'all solvers. I'm taking refuge from the mayhem in a 700+ page detective novel so haven't made any effort to get back to the puzzles.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 07, 2021, 01:46:45 PM
Genius and a 2fer that is pretty clean - no letter used more than once. So if it's not the official solution I don't know what is.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 07, 2021, 01:51:57 PM
Awesome, ciao_yall.  You and I definitely have different solutions.  Your sounds more likely to be official.

Enjoy the read, Langue_doc! 700 pages seems long for a detective novel.  If you finish and like it enough to recommend it, please let me know or post on the reading thread. 

I'm still working on today's hard sudoku and not making much headway, but I am sure that I am just missing some key inroad as usual.  Taking some breaks to shred stuff and trying again.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 07, 2021, 02:12:12 PM
Congrats, ciao_yall.

ab_grp, I've been rereading P. D. James mysteries. This one is "Death in Holy Orders".

If you like British fiction, then you could start with "Devices and Desires" or "The Lighthouse". These should be available in kindle formats through your local public library. They do tend to get a bit melodramatic toward the end though. In addition, as one of the reviewers put it, one does have to read about the "tiresome Emma" the detective's love interest. My eyes are glazing as I'm typing this because this particular character is rather blah. The plots are good and the narration riveting. Since I've read these before, I tend to skip some of the tiresome (for me) parts.

During the past month or two, I reread the two abovementioned novels as well as "Original Sin", "The Private Patient", "The Murder Room", and "A Taste for Death". Some of the older novels are quite interesting, but might not be on kindle. "A Shroud for a Nightingale" and "Cover her Face" come to mind.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 07, 2021, 06:32:25 PM
Easy Bee today, but I'm reminded just now that I had some complaints about yesterday's which I've now forgotten. Drat!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 08, 2021, 05:54:55 AM
I think there were a couple of w-initial words that were quite archaic in Wednesday's puzzle. Wight, probably?

Last night, made it QB and also LB. My first words were thump and pejorative, which I later amended to hump and pejorative (I can think of lewd sentences with the second pair of words). SB wasn't too bad once I'd found the second pangram.

Today's isn't too bad either. Just made it to genius.

Completed today's crossword and the sudokus before retiring last night.

Happy solving all!

ab_grp, finished the novel, at 2.30 in the morning. It's going to be a long day today and tomorrow, catching up with course prep.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 08, 2021, 09:04:55 AM
Easy Bee today, but I'm reminded just now that I had some complaints about yesterday's which I've now forgotten. Drat!

If you remember, please share them.  And congrats on the bee!

Langue_doc, congrats on your QB and LB! We ended up missing cocoon and cocooning yesterday in our haste, so ugh.  I got hump and pejorative for LB, too.  Now I'm curious what ciao_yall got.  And yay on genius for today so far! I am at about 95% of total (125 out of 131 or 132) but can't figure out the final word or words right now.  Took forever to get the pangram.  I'm going to take a look at the books you listed today, so thanks.  And hooray on finishing the book and the puzzles! Hopefully course prep won't keep you away too much from more enjoyable pastimes.

Haven't done any of today's sudokus or LB yet, and I still have yesterday's hard sudoku and the 1/3 hard sudoku saved to try to finish. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 08, 2021, 10:17:44 AM
Missed a few easy ones yesterday so didn't make QB. Hit "genius" this morning in one sitting, but cranky they didn't take "oohed."

LB - I had hump-pejorative, and other than thump-pejorative it didn't seem that that crowd found any more 2fers. I found pejorative then hump was the only letters left. It's not a big group that does LB. On to today's.

ETA: Got a 3fer, and lots of great words except for the same side thing. So a 2fer is probably in sight.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 08, 2021, 04:12:41 PM
Hooray for genius, ciao_yall! We finally gave up with two words left.  Probably should have gotten one of them, probably wouldn't have gotten the other.  Oh well.

Still no luck on LB.  I have about 12 contenders, some of which I think are pretty good, and I was SO close with one but stupid same side got me int he end.  Argh.  Good luck on that too, ciao_yall.

And still no luck on any of the hard sudokus I have yet to solve.  But I did get a lot of shredding done and necessary paperwork.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 08, 2021, 08:36:31 PM
LB - so I went to the wordplay column and got humbled. They found three 2fers.

1) Got some help from Google for a term I have never heard of and seems it would be a proper name. Already had the other word.
2) Figured out the word, again, with help from Google but LB didn't accept it. I believe they are doing it through a computer program which might be how they got it.  Again, already had the other word.
3) Didn't know where to start. Got nothin'.

I'll share the answers and hints tomorrow so you can be with me in my struggle.

But yeah, lots of 3fers and a few 2fers-but-for-the-same-side-thing. So it's all good. At least  they weren't solutions staring me in the face.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 09, 2021, 07:32:02 AM
Made it to Alpha Bee yesterday. Couldn't find any two-fers in LB, so gave up. I found several possibilities, including my favorite one, trumpery, but couldn't find a second word with the remaining letters. I doubt if I would have found the solution, especially the second word, so am glad that I didn't spend too much time on the puzzle.

Today I'm past amazing, and have yet to find the pangram.

Crosswords and sudokus completed last night, but they all took a long time to solve.

Happy solving, all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 09, 2021, 07:46:38 AM
Ciao_yall, which 2-fers did the column folks find? I tried everything I could think of with "graphy" at the end and came close with topography, only had EKMU T left over... could have had kempt if not for that darn u.  I tried in vain to think of a "graphy" with a u in it.  I also had photography and almost got makeup, but u and p couldn't be next to each other. 

Langue_doc, congrats on your Alpha Bee yesterday.  Today's is longer, and I am at genius + currently (about 73%) and still have not found a pangram either.  I am usually pretty swift with the crossword, but today's was tough for some reason.  The NW corner was worst for me. 

Still haven't tried today's sudokus yet, but I am sad to hear they are difficult.  I am amassing unsolved sudokus in separate tabs and getting nowhere with any of them.  Haven't looked at LB today yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 09, 2021, 08:31:13 AM
LB from yesterday.

1) Hint was: K-A (7 letters),A-H (9) Ancient Gospel preaching, signature

KERYGMA-AUTOGRAPH. Yeah, I just Googled "ancient gospel preaching" and found out there is a thing called Kerygma.

2)  A-H (13), H-Y (5) A device for recording involuntary bodily movements, however corny

AUTOMOTOGRAPH-HOKEY. A bit of Googling after various logical letter combos made sense, AUTOMO---GRAPH but when I found the actual word (and letter count) the puzzle wouldn't take it. Someone on the thread mentioned having a python program and generating solutions, so I think this is how they got that one.

3) H-E (8), E-E (9)

Website for microbiologist studying cell nuclei.

I got nothin'.

Yesterday I had makeup-photography but for the same side thing, kraut-tomography left an "e" hanging... lots of 3fers, lots of good words, but no cigar.

Official solution was AUTOGRAPH-HAYMAKER. Hm.

On to today's.

ETA - oh the same side thing is going to drive us batty. You'll see... but already managed a 3fer.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 09, 2021, 09:08:22 AM
I can't figure out what they meant by the third set of clues! Never would have gotten kerygma.  But I did get a 2-fer today, got lucky on my second contender.

And managed to solve medium sudoku in a reasonable time without errors.  Still stuck on the hard one.  Now if I can get some more bee words...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 09, 2021, 09:33:33 AM
Yep, got a 2fer pretty quickly as well. Took more time lamenting all the great words I could have had - bodily, albino, donuts, stairs...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 09, 2021, 10:51:20 AM
Hurrah on the 2-fer!

After husband also got to genius +, we compared and then each found one more word but were still short by 11 points.  The final two were ones we've missed before.  Oh well! At least I also managed to solve the hard sudoku without errors in a reasonable time for me.  Still have to go back to the old ones, and I guess the new ones will come out this afternoon.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 09, 2021, 06:21:45 PM
I was going to give up on LB, but since the two of you got the two-fer, I decided to try for one and got my very own two-fer.

Made it to above genius on SB, but don't feel the urge to complete it. Genius Bee it is for today. I hate it when SB rejects 'clitic', a perfectly legitimate grammatical term. I keep trying even though I know it's going to be rejected.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 10, 2021, 06:52:24 AM
Good morning, puzzle aficionados.

Two pangrams in today's bee; made it to genius.

LB--I had the official solution.

Happy solving all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 10, 2021, 07:14:15 AM
Good morning!

Thanks for the bee info.  I just started wading in, no pangrams yet.  Yeah for genius!  I think we missed coital and alack yesterday.

I'm glad you kept at the LB and got the official solution.   Mine was BUILDS-STATIONARY. 

Time to go jump on the long Sunday crossword and have some coffee and try more bee.  At least I finished the sudokus for today and cleared up all but one outstanding hard sudoku!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 10, 2021, 08:28:27 AM
Well, I was able to get a 2-fer with my first contender.  Whee!

I'm at just about 81% in the bee so better get on the stick and get to Alpha Bee.  That is what the ab in ab_grp stands for, by the way.  ;-) Or something like that.  Only found one pangram so far, though.

Luckily crossword wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 10, 2021, 08:35:07 AM
Well, I was able to get a 2-fer with my first contender.  Whee!

I'm at just about 81% in the bee so better get on the stick and get to Alpha Bee.  That is what the ab in ab_grp stands for, by the way.  ;-) Or something like that.  Only found one pangram so far, though.

Luckily crossword wasn't too bad.

Whee on the LB. You'll get to Alpha Bee, ab_grp, and to QB!

I sometimes feel that I just have to keep up with the Joneses, so might work on LB and also try to find more words in SB. The pangrams aren't too difficult, so shuffling the letters would help. I found the relevant one rather late, even though the letters had been staring at me the entire time.

I haven't looked at the crossword yet, but breakfast calls.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 10, 2021, 09:08:59 AM
Thanks! I got a couple more good words, still no second pangram.  I got the relevant one, I believe.  Will keep on shuffling! I sometimes wish you could shuffle within side on the LB or rotate the puzzle keeping the sides intact.  I'm sure if I figured out a 2-fer, you will as well.

Good luck with the crossword.  Even after reading the blog, I'm still not quite sure I understand if there are multiple layers to the theme or not.  And some of the clues/answers... timely in a bad way?

At least I finally finished the 1/8/21 hard sudoku so am now all caught up and ready for when they release tomorrow's this afternoon.   It was hard keeping track of all the unsolved puzzles in the various tabs (I am one of those who has hundreds open, though I do try to go through and close some once in a while).  But they are all complete now!

Enjoy breakfast! We will be eating ours in a bit.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 10, 2021, 09:35:42 AM
Morning!

I also got builds-stationary. Someone else on the comments board got dinar-robustly.

Off to todays puzzles. Got a 2fr as well. Found a fun word and am bummed it probably isn't a contender but maybe I'll play with it anyway and see what happens.

ETA: Found another 2fer with my fun word. Whee!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 10, 2021, 10:31:34 AM
Wow, two 2-fers! I wonder if your second set is the same as mine, as I consider one of the words to be fun.  Not the other one.   Congrats!

I made husband hold off on comparing lists until I got another word to get to alpha bee.  Got it, we compared, and we got to QB.  But I didn't get there by myself.  I will take the alpha bee, at least.  He had the other pangram and a word I just keep on missing, somewhat ironically.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 10, 2021, 01:04:34 PM
Two 2-fers!  Wow, ciao_yall! 

I got a 2-fer today on my second try, which is definitely a record for me.  Yesterday I had some great words, but none that fit together.   I decided to take a break, but didn’t get back to it.

I made genius in SB and even got the two pangrams for 190 points; not glorious, but a little above the minimum.  For now, I'm happy enough with that.  Congratulations, ab_grp, but making QB!

Off to solve the crossword!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 10, 2021, 02:30:13 PM
Thanks! I got a couple more good words, still no second pangram.  I got the relevant one, I believe.  Will keep on shuffling! I sometimes wish you could shuffle within side on the LB or rotate the puzzle keeping the sides intact.  I'm sure if I figured out a 2-fer, you will as well.

Good luck with the crossword. Even after reading the blog, I'm still not quite sure I understand if there are multiple layers to the theme or not.  And some of the clues/answers... timely in a bad way?

At least I finally finished the 1/8/21 hard sudoku so am now all caught up and ready for when they release tomorrow's this afternoon.   It was hard keeping track of all the unsolved puzzles in the various tabs (I am one of those who has hundreds open, though I do try to go through and close some once in a while).  But they are all complete now!

Enjoy breakfast! We will be eating ours in a bit.


The crossword was time-consuming, but otherwise straightforward. The John Donne quote is the one most people are familiar with, as is the title of the performance at the MET. I got stuck on several of the smaller words but managed to solve the puzzle in an hour. 72A is something I would say to the class after handling a digression or irrelevant question.

Congrats all on the two-fers! I got mine. Found a fun word, but couldn't fit the other letters into a word. So my two-fer is just a run-of-the-mill set of words.

Incidentally, LB accepts "coir"--I tried it out just to see if it would be accepted by LB. This is a word that SB consistently rejects.

I don't think I'll be spending much more time on SB. Sudokus were completed last night.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 10, 2021, 04:57:25 PM
Thanks, Cathwen, but I only got alpha bee on my own.  QB was a team effort! But I will try again for QB tomorrow.  Congrats on genius + and the quick 2-fer! Have fun with the crossword.

Congrats on your 2-fer, Langue_doc, whatever the solution.  It is frustrating at times to have different NYT puzzles accept different words! I took a look at my crossword stats and am now a little confused.  It says my average Sunday is about 34 minutes, my fastest was about 14.  But it does not have today's in the stats as the Sunday of this week, even though I did clearly finish the puzzle today, in about 18.  Actually, now I'm wondering how it thinks of "this week".  I thought maybe it was because the Monday puzzle is already out and it thinks it has started on a new week.  Usually Sunday is considered the start of the week, so today's should be in "this week"? But I see they start the stats from left to right at Monday and end on Sunday, so maybe they have a different week than I do.  I guess I never thought of weeks in crossword time.  Maybe it makes sense that they progress in difficulty from Mon-Sat and then you have Sunday, which I think they say is more like a Thursday, but not a Monday.  Sorry I got off track there.  I didn't think the 1/10/21 puzzle was tricky, but I am not always a fan of themes that you don't really need to even take a look at to solve the puzzle and that don't add much enjoyment.  My downfall was the names like 21A.  Tomorrow's should be pretty quick.

I got tomorrow's easy and medium sudokus completed without issue and in reasonable times but am stuck on hard and am calling it a day!

Congrats all around of the great Sunday solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 11, 2021, 07:41:08 AM
Does anyone else do the variety puzzles in the Sunday magazine?

I love "Split Decisions." Almost finished except for the first word in the top left row. About to get my trusty 1979 dictionary out to see which words might fit.

LB - my second 2fer was the official solution: scowled-daiquiri. I first got acquired-dowels. Suspect there were a lot of options.

On to today's...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 11, 2021, 08:01:04 AM
Good morning!

I got the daiquiri 2-fer, too.  I was so excited to make that work!  As for the magazine puzzles, I don't get the paper but checked the puzzle mania and see Split Decisions in there.  Yikes! That looks challenging.  I'll have to give it a try when I finally get my office cleared up enough to be able to spread that whole section out.

Just got up a bit ago, haven't been sleeping well.  Got a pangram right away, fortunately, but another long puzzle.  Looking forward to easy crossword and trying to solve the rest of today's hard sudoku.  And LB, of course!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 11, 2021, 08:13:19 AM
Haven't seen today's pangram yet!

Yesterday, it still wasn't accepting 'rota' or 'atlatl'.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 11, 2021, 08:53:06 AM
The pangram is a word that we're all familiar with. I wouldn't be surprised to see a second one given the number of points needed for genius. Made it to genius though.

As for LB, my words were scowled, dowel; I found daiquiri, but as the first word.

Completed the crosswords and sudokus last night. I've also been playing the vertex puzzles as I find that they are soothing to the brain. It takes me several short sessions to complete them. Yesterday's was a hummingbird. Today's is a mundane object that we're all familiar with and probably use.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 11, 2021, 08:59:47 AM
Well *&$^#%*^ I am one or two points away from QB!! Just one or two four-letter words left.  I can think of a few four-letter words right now, but they probably wouldn't be accepted even if the letters were in there.  I can confirm that there is only one pangram, though, if that helps.  Congrats on genius, Langue_doc, and good luck to all!

Yesterday, it still wasn't accepting 'rota' or 'atlatl'.

My husband kept trying atlatl yesterday, too! I keep wanting them to accept "nori", but I guess since it's the Japanese name for seaweed they might consider it foreign, even though there are other foreign food words in there.  And I keep thinking there will be some compound words with "data", like "datacard", but I guess that's two words.

I was humming along on the crossword and had my best Monday time, I think, but I had a mistake I had to find that took an extra dang minute.  Oh well.  Onto LB and then hopefully to QB.

ETA: YAY I got to QB by guessing the final word.  Not sure if husband is at genius yet, but now I can help him get to QB if he needs it!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 11, 2021, 02:44:21 PM
I got a different answer to yesterday's LB:  acquired and dowels.   But today's LB is confounding me.  I can get 3-fers, but the 2-fer is elusive.

As for SB, I got to genius--and a bit beyond--but not close to QB.  There was a word relating to calligraphy that was rejected, much to my annoyance.  I did find the pangram.

The hard sudoku was very hard, I thought.  I ended up making a guess, something I hate doing!  But I guessed right, and that enabled me to solve the whole thing. 

Ciao_yall, I do the extra Sunday puzzles, too.  I love Split Decisions!  I haven't started on that yet.  And I haven't done the Sunday crossword--at least, not all of it.  That will be this evening's entertainment.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 11, 2021, 03:21:13 PM
Yay for your QB, ab_grp!

I hope to make it to QB today. I keep trying lanai and liana, knowing that they're not going to be accepted.

Found a naughty word for LB, but no luck on a second one.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 11, 2021, 03:22:07 PM
Same here - lots of good 3fers but no 2fer yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: reener06 on January 11, 2021, 03:57:57 PM
Finally made it to genius. Giving up. That was rather hard for a Monday.

It is Monday, right? Losing track of days again.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 11, 2021, 04:19:40 PM


My husband kept trying atlatl yesterday, too! I keep wanting them to accept "nori", but I guess since it's the Japanese name for seaweed they might consider it foreign, even though there are other foreign food words in there.  And I keep thinking there will be some compound words with "data", like "datacard", but I guess that's two words.


Oh yeah, I wanted to complain about 'nori' too!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 11, 2021, 04:55:23 PM
Glad I'm in good company, Parasaurolophus. 

Thanks, Langue_doc! If I were you, I would try those words you mentioned (at least one of them)... and I am wishing you much luck in getting to QB! And who knows, maybe you will find a naughty word mate yet in LB.

I am still at a loss for LB, too.  Lots of contenders but no mates that I can identify at this point.  And still no luck on the hard sudoku, though I'm glad (and sorry) that I am not the only one who found it difficult.  I'll just put it in a spare tab if need be.  I am making no headway.  I think I have 7 actual numbers entered, though a lot of candidates noted.  Only a couple minutes till I need to call it a day, so I'll give LB one last shot.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 11, 2021, 05:26:19 PM
Thanks, ab_grp! I tried both this morning, but must have mistyped, which sometimes happens on the kindle. That was my penultimate word, so I'm now QB.

Yay, reneer06, for making it to genius. I often find words by experimenting with the letters.

ETA Just got the two-fer. It wasn't the naughty word. Let me know if any of you would like a hint.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 11, 2021, 09:02:17 PM
Got some help online. I had one of the words, the other word made sense but I didn't quite realize it was a word.

Plenty of good J and C words, made some 3fers but hard to bring them into a 2fer. Curious what the official solution was.

Split decisions - finally found the top left hand corner so I can rest now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 12, 2021, 08:06:39 AM
Not the official solution, but am happy with my disjoint and trifocal. I wouldn't have thought of fjord, not even if I had all week to come up with the official solution.

SB -- grrrr!  Found the pangram and made it to amazing.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 12, 2021, 09:11:45 AM
Big congrats on your QB last night, Langue_doc! I'm glad you mentioned the words and tried again.  What was your final word? Mine was "caul".  And congrats on your 2-fer as well!

I think today's bee is pretty difficult so far.  I did get to genius +, about 78% so far, and found a pangram, but whoo.  Really struggling!! Not sure if there is another pangram, but from hinting back and forth it sounds like husband and I found the same one.  I will try to get to 90% before comparing, but that will require more points than I am currently certain I can get.  He's not at genius yet, so I have some time to work on it.

For LB yesterday, I was trying too many "join" words.  Nowhere near the solution.  I don't think I would have ever thought of fjord either.

Congrats on your genius too, reener06! Sorry I missed that yesterday!

Will try the sudokus today and see if something magical gives me bee words, but yikes.  Still have to look at LB today as well.   Hopefully more straightforward than yesterday.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 12, 2021, 09:24:55 AM
The solution I got was disjoint-trifocal, which I didn't realize was a thing. I had disjoint, conjoin, and even fjord. Never did come across dislocation or  location.

On to today's...

Almost had a 2fer except for the same side thing!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 12, 2021, 11:19:59 AM
Argh about the same side stuff.  Good luck, ciao_yall! I have a couple contenders, but I don't think they're on the right track yet given the remaining letters.

We finally gave up on the bee and compared and still had 20+ points left.  There is a second pangram, FWIW. 

Got easy and medium sudoku done and am working on the hard one (and the hard one from yesterday) and then back to LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 12, 2021, 11:36:57 AM
Are we all having a hard time on bee? I'm usually at least at Amazing by the time my coffee gets cold. I'm still on Solid.

3fers coming along on LB. I need to work on that K for a while.

Regarding yesterday's LB, I did find "coital" - was that the naughty word Langue_Doc was referring to? There was another word, but for the same side thing, that was naughtier. I wouldn't expect men to be able to find it.

ETA: Got a 2fer!

Now to spend the rest of the day on the bee.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 12, 2021, 01:55:20 PM
I am also having a hard time with the Bee--stuck at Amazing.  I did get one pangram (apparently, there are two), which is a compound word. 

And LB is not coming together (3-fers, but no 2-fer). 

It's time to organize my mise en place for dinner, so I doubt that I'll get back to them tonight.  Oh well, can't win 'em all...



Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 12, 2021, 02:08:06 PM

Big congrats on your QB last night, Langue_doc! I'm glad you mentioned the words and tried again.  What was your final word? Mine was "caul".  And congrats on your 2-fer as well!

For LB yesterday, I was trying too many "join" words.  Nowhere near the solution.  I don't think I would have ever thought of fjord either.

Will try the sudokus today and see if something magical gives me bee words, but yikes.  Still have to look at LB today as well.   Hopefully more straightforward than yesterday.

Thanks, ab_grp. My last word was lacuna; this isn't a word that I would use on a daily basis, but one that I have come to associate with Barbara Kingsolver's novel of the same name. As for today's SB, I made it to genius. Several of the words are outliers that we've encountered recently. Today, however, they're all in the same puzzle, which makes the solving difficult.

I also had several -join words for LB. The sudokus are getting more difficult, or I'm getting slower solving them.

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Are we all having a hard time on bee? I'm usually at least at Amazing by the time my coffee gets cold. I'm still on Solid.

3fers coming along on LB. I need to work on that K for a while.

Regarding yesterday's LB, I did find "coital" - was that the naughty word Langue_Doc was referring to? There was another word, but for the same side thing, that was naughtier. I wouldn't expect men to be able to find it.

ETA: Got a 2fer!

Congrats on the two-fer! My naughty word was fornication.

cathwen, I didn't realize that there were two pangrams. I don't have the energy to look for more words in SB, so this is it for today.

Incidentally there was a fun word, rather long, in today's puzzle.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 12, 2021, 02:16:53 PM
Incidentally there was a fun word, rather long, in today's puzzle.

I think you're referring to one I had to look up in the answers.  If so, it is fun, but it's another example (to me) of accepting something iffy while not accepting what seem like more appropriate words.  The second pangram was the other word we were missing.  And I agree about lacuna.  If it hadn't shown up in other puzzles, I don't think I would have guessed it.  I guess caul probably showed up before, too, though I don't remember that one well.

Still no real luck on LB.  I did finish today's sudokus but am still stuck on yesterday's.

Yay about the 2-fer, ciao_yall!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 12, 2021, 04:39:42 PM
Finally got a 2-fer, just as I was about to quit for the day.  Whee.  Still no luck with yesterday's hard sudoku, though.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 13, 2021, 06:53:16 AM
I had to give up on LB, but found the second pangram last night so I was probably Alpha Bee. I also managed to complete today's crosswords and sudokus yesterday.

Made it to slightly above genius on SB--it wasn't too difficult.

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The basic games had gotten boring, but then I'd made extra rules for myself to make them more challenging.  (For example, in the one with yellow, blue, and white tiles with the four-pointed stars in the middle, you need to clear all the other stuff first and save the stars for last.)
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Totally.  I had to cut myself off.  Tile free since mid-December!

The basic games had gotten boring, but then I'd made extra rules for myself to make them more challenging.  (For example, in the one with yellow, blue, and white tiles with the four-pointed stars in the middle, you need to clear all the other stuff first and save the stars for last.)

LOL!

As for tiles, some of them are interesting, but others are quite blah! I get to them about once or twice a week. I don't fancy the flower ones or the ones with a variety of colors or patterns--just an idiosyncratic dislike on my part. I prefer vertex.

There are a couple of word games on the kindle, monkey wrench and red herring, which I try to solve every night. These are quite easy, more like appetizers rather than real puzzles.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 13, 2021, 08:19:44 AM
Good morning!

Congrats on your Alpha Bee yesterday, Langue_doc! And genius so far today, and the sudokus and crosswords.  Today's crossword seemed a little easy for a Wednesday, but that's good.  And thanks for mentioning the other word games you play on the Kindle.  I'll have to check them out. 

After some struggling, I finally got to Alpha Bee today.  One pangram so far, but I only have about 10 points left to QB so suspect there aren't any others.  And my LB solution yesterday was the official one, JUNIOR-ROADBLOCK.  We'll see how today's goes.  I'll have to get to the sudokus as well.  My computer wants to restart, and I still have a hard sudoku from a few days ago open, so I might print that just in case.  I doubt I will ever solve it, if cathwen had to make a guess to get it solved!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 13, 2021, 09:38:15 AM
LB - "junior-roadblock" was the only solution the NYT crowd found as well. But for the same side thing, I would also have had journal-laidback and adjourn-niblick.

On to today's - already some 3fers and "but for the same side" - are those going to be called B4SS?

 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 13, 2021, 09:45:58 AM
B4SS might be a good term for it.  I did manage to find a 2fer today, luckily! And I also thought niblick yesterday, though I just had to look it up to find out what it actually is.  Must have heard it somewhere before.  Good luck turning 3fers into a 2fer!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 13, 2021, 09:47:59 AM
A better day today!  It didn’t take long to reach genius in SB.  I'm now 15 points from QB; not sure I'll make it, but after yesterday, just getting to genius feels like a victory.

And miraculously, I found a 2-fer for LB without too much fuss.  I'm a little annoyed with myself for not having found junior yesterday, though.  I must have tried just about every other possible j-word!

I do Tiles and Vertex every day in addition to the others—part of my post-breakfast routine.  For Tiles, I like the set that includes the wolf's head and bee, and also the one that looks like construction materials. That one is a toughie, but solving it is very satisfying. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 13, 2021, 11:05:07 AM
Got a 2fer as well! Not sure it's the official one but I'll keep it.

Tiles - sometimes I do them before I doze off. Zen mode drives me batty because sometimes you do run out of matches and then it's not very Zen, is it?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 13, 2021, 11:29:52 AM
Got a 2fer as well! Not sure it's the official one but I'll keep it.

Tiles - sometimes I do them before I doze off. Zen mode drives me batty because sometimes you do run out of matches and then it's not very Zen, is it?

Look at the number of your posts! 1111! Looks like an auspicious number.

Congrats all on the two-fers, ciao_yall, ab_grp, and cathwen. I came up with the same side problem this morning, and haven't had the time to take a second look.

I aslo like the ones that I assume are the heraldic symbols and the more difficult red, white, black, and yellow geometric shapes (doors I think).

I'm probably Alpha Bee today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 13, 2021, 04:25:42 PM
Happy auspicious number post, ciao_yall! And congrats on the 2fer.

Congrats on Alpha Bee, Langue_doc.  Good luck if you try for QB, and good luck on 2fer attainment.  Also, I have now tried both games you mentioned and am particularly into red herring so far.  I'm trying it on hard, and sometimes it's definitely harder to figure out what the categories are.

Congrats to cathwen on the 2fer as well.  I got roadblock first and found junior from the remaining letters.  I don't think I would have been able to find junior first.

Still stuck on the hard sudoku from today and the one from 1/11 but will probably have to give up on them and restart my computer and get it over with.  Maybe it will keep today's progress, but I think the old game will go away.  Oh well, I'm sure I will accumulate more to work on solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 14, 2021, 04:30:29 AM
Morning, all.

LB--I had the official solution; SB--made it to QB last night. Today's crosswords and sudokus have also been completed.
Today, I'm at Alpha Bee; it's a relatively easy puzzle as you need only 56 or 57 points to get to genius. LB looks more complicated though.

ab_grp, I'm glad you like Red Herring. You can reset the puzzle to medium if you're at a loss for the right categories. I sometimes have to do that as I'm practically illiterate as far as sports--teams and vocabulary--are concerned. You also have access to the older puzzles. As for the sudokus, you can print them out and work on them later. I like to do the crosswords and sudokus by hand, but now that I'm into "streaks", I am forced to do the former electronically, which slows me down. One of my friends sent me a book and went to the trouble of wrapping it in the comics and games section of her local Sunday paper. The first thing I did was to work on the crossword and sudoku!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 14, 2021, 07:45:11 AM
Good morning!

Wow, congrats on QB last night, Langue_doc! And LB! I didn't get the official LB solution either.  Mine was MUSTARD-DISCHARGE.  Just got up a bit ago so haven't tried much with the bee yet.  No pangram so far.  Crosswords first when coffee is ready.  Also have to check trivia league standings, as we are in a minileague right now.  Yay on all of today's puzzles and already getting to Alpha Bee!

I did have to switch back the red herring difficulty last night! Well, the wine didn't help.  Some of the categories are also a little obscure, but I do like trying at first to see if I can get one or two of the categories figured out and filled before I have to lower the difficulty.  Anyway, fun!

I "printed to PDF" both sudokus but don't know if they have an archive of solutions so I could check if I did complete it on paper.  I gave up on the 1/11 puzzle with the computer restart and figured I'd spend a few minutes trying out different features on it (hint, reveal cell, etc.).  It is pretty embarrassing how many of those I had to use before I could finally "solve" it.  I still don't really understand the hint feature.  I guess it suggests a cell that you should try to work on? At least I still have yesterday's to work on after today's.

Sounds like your friend picked just the right wrapping paper, intentionally or not.  Bonus gift!

ETA: After a successful crossword run, I managed to make progress on the bee and identify the pangram and am one or two points from QB.  I suspect there is just one four-letter word left, but I can't find it! Will keep trying after some other puzzling adventures.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 14, 2021, 08:54:02 AM
I'm one point short of QB this morning, so I'm hoping to get there soon!

You guys are awfully good at these!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 14, 2021, 09:30:51 AM
Well, obviously you're good at it too, Parasaurolophus! I am curious if we are both missing the same word.  I guess we can check in tomorrow about it! Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 14, 2021, 09:39:09 AM
Morning!

LB: I got DISGUST-SCHMEAR, but then got the official solution with help from the comments board. But for the same side (B4SS) I would have also had GRADUATES-SCHEMATIC.

This morning already got a 3fer.

SB: Off to a start!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 14, 2021, 09:56:27 AM
I made it to QB! The pangram wasn't too bad. I just guessed the word, based on one that was familiar.

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I'm one point short of QB this morning, so I'm hoping to get there soon!

You guys are awfully good at these!


It's merely a matter of guessing, the way I did with today's pangram and a couple of other words (maybe one). All you have to do is play around with the letters and also try to remember earlier words based on these letters.

My last word today was one that I'd encountered not too long ago.

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Good morning!

Sounds like your friend picked just the right wrapping paper, intentionally or not.  Bonus gift!

ETA: After a successful crossword run, I managed to make progress on the bee and identify the pangram and am one or two points from QB.  I suspect there is just one four-letter word left, but I can't find it! Will keep trying after some other puzzling adventures.

The wrapping paper was intentional. We send newspaper clippings back and forth.

You've probably found the last word; they're all familiar ones.

Good luck with LB, all. I found a long word, but couldn't find a word for the other letters, including the x.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 14, 2021, 10:05:24 AM
It's neat that you send clippings back and forth, and congrats on QB! I found the final word, so QB for me, too!

No real luck with LB so far, but I got the medium sudoku in about 17 mins, which is not bad for me.  Still working on hard.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 14, 2021, 11:42:52 AM
SB - Hit genius with a wild guess.

LB - Plenty of 3fers and a few B4SSs so getting warm here.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 14, 2021, 03:09:25 PM
Ouf, finally found the bugger!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 14, 2021, 04:21:21 PM
Ouf, finally found the bugger!

Yahoo! Good hunting.

Ciao_yall, I'm sending you lots of good luck vibes to get the 2fer! I have a couple contenders, but I keep getting stuck with a couple letters remaining that don't seem to work together.  I got pretty close with one pair but for one extra dumb letter.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 14, 2021, 04:44:20 PM
Yeah, I have a hanging U or A.

I'll send you a PM. Maybe we have the same ones?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 14, 2021, 07:14:38 PM
Yeah, I have a hanging U or A.

I'll send you a PM. Maybe we have the same ones?

I sent my contenders and probably won't get a chance to get back to it, but I hope they might help you get a 2fer.  Given that we have the same main set, I feel like that has to be really close!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 14, 2021, 07:20:37 PM
Yeah, I have a hanging U or A.

I'll send you a PM. Maybe we have the same ones?

I, too, have a hanging A. Argh.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 15, 2021, 06:25:07 AM
Good morning, all.

At some point, when the puzzle is no longer a fun endeavor, I give up, which is what happened with LB yesterday. No amount of effort on my part would have resulted in the official solutions. It was particularly frustrating as there were several -ing contenders.

SB--the pangram was my first word, and then made it to a point or so above genius. That's probably it for today. The words so far are those we all know. The last couple of words, a 4-letter one and a 5-letter one, are ones I've seen on at least two recent puzzles.

The crossword wasn't too bad for a Friday, nor were the sudokus.

Class prep calls, as does the vertex.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 15, 2021, 07:12:34 AM
I didn’t get yesterday’s LB, either.  But I got it today! Maybe not the official solution, but a solution.

I also made genius on today’s SB, and may play with it throughout the day to see if QB materializes,  which it probably won't.  I'm a little annoyed that SB rejected a word for a certain animal of the southwest.  Yesterday, I came within two words of QB.  One of these days...

I haven’t tackled the crossword yet.

And yes, class prep is calling me, too.  Maybe I’ll only permit myself the crossword after I’ve done some prepping and feel in need of a reward.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 15, 2021, 07:53:22 AM
SB - hit genius this morning after a midnight water-bathroom-bee loop.

LB yesterday

The official solution STRIKEOUT-TAXING ? Okay, I got TAXING but I thought STRIKEOUT was 2 words. Oddly enough the commenters crowd did not get that one, either. They did get STROKING-GATEAUX which I thought would be a foreign word.

Yesterday the word SEXUATE was found which apparently means to determine the gender of a fowl. However, again the comments board had several solutions such as OKRA-ASEXUATING or GROK-ASEXUATING but ASEXUATING is not a word and the LB puzzle didn't take it when I tried it.

I had several B4SS* solutions: EXTENUATING-GROKS; EXONERATES; EXTENUATES-STROKING.

* But For the Same Side

On to today's. Yeah, it can be frustrating, but that *snap* when the first 3fer is achieved, and then the dopamine *jolt* when the 2fer is found continues to romance me. About like the slot machines in Vegas, but I don't have to put a nickel in my phone or sit next to some crazy old lady chainsmoking and drinking too many free screwdrivers.

 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 15, 2021, 08:27:32 AM
Good morning!

Sorry we couldn't get the LB solution yesterday, despite our efforts! I felt like we were so close, but I don't think I would have tried STRIKEOUT, either.  If they would have taken STROKINGS, we could have had the SEXUATE mate.  Oh well.  I will take a look at today's in a few.  Congrats on the 2fer today, cathwen! I'm running out of paper so will have to start a new LB notebook.

For today's bee, I am at about 81% so far, but now I am struggling.  Got the pangram pretty quickly.  I think I know which word cathwen is referring to.  Tried that one, too! There are a couple crossword answers that aren't in there, which always bugs me, but I try them anyway.  Sounds like good progress all around, though.  Good luck to all of us.

Still have an old sudoku (or 2?) plus new ones to do.  I agree that the crossword was pretty easy for a Friday.  Hopefully I will find the sudokus to be easier than usual, too! At least I'm getting a bit more consistent about being able to solve mediums, though the hard ones are still a stretch at times.

By the way, my final bee word yesterday was "okra".  What did everyone else get last? After I got QB, husband was ready to throw in the towel with one word left.  It was "hoary", though he had "hoar".   Hate that!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 15, 2021, 08:28:52 AM
Today B4SS I would have had SCHTUP.

I keep myself amused...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 15, 2021, 08:30:36 AM
Ha! The other day, the LB lent itself to numerous compound words that the creators apparently didn't find acceptable.  I had fun entering them anyway as my frustration grew. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 15, 2021, 11:30:21 AM
Got a 2fer with a strange compound word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 15, 2021, 12:04:16 PM
Got a 2fer with a strange compound word.

Hooray! I just got a 2fer, too. 

Still about 4 points away from Alpha Bee.  Argh! Husband has the same number of words but more points, so he probably got some longer ones I didn't get while I got shorter ones he didn't get, as usual.  I am determined to get to Alpha Bee!

I think my easy sudoku time was my best ever, 3 minutes flat.  Then medium was a bit of a slog but completed in a mediocre time.  But it was completed, no errors, which is my goal for that.  Still working on hard.  I feel like I have made good progress, at least.  On some of those, it's hard to find even a foothold.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 15, 2021, 12:55:22 PM
ab_grp, it sounds as though you need just a few 4-letter words or a 5-er. Those aren't too difficult.

There was a literary term, so let me know if anyone needs a hint. I get frustrated at the non-acceptance of villein, a proper medieval term, while archaic and specialized words are accepted. I keep trying all the same.

Incidentally, the same person is listed as the editor of SB and LB. Can't imagine why this person would assume that the words that are legit in LB are not legit in SB!

Congrats all on the LB.

QB for me, but no LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 15, 2021, 02:34:43 PM
Langue_doc, wow on getting to QB!! Congrats! That was a very tough one for me.  I finally got another (obvious, in retrospect, of course) 5-letter word to get to Alpha Bee, and we compared lists.  Husband donated another 5-letter to me, and I donated one or two 4-letter words to him.  Thank the masters of the universe that I finally made it over that threshold.  Good gravy.  Good luck with LB if you try again.  If you want a hint, feel free to PM, and if I'm around I will happily comply.

And I managed to finish today's hard sudoku and the one from 1/13, so those are cleared out of the queue.  Both took an hour or more, but I finished without checking answers and without mistakes.  Whew.  Maybe I can finish 1/14 hard before the next round come out.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 16, 2021, 09:09:04 AM
ab_grp, thank you for your offer of a hint. I thought about it, but then decided that the upcoming crossword would take up my time, so didn't pursue it.

Cheers on the sudokus!

Made it to genius today; rather boring list, what with the letters and the derived forms. As usual, kine, a good ol' poetic word, was rejected. I'm done with the crosswords, sudokus, and vertex, and got some first words on LB, but no second word yet.

Happy solving all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 16, 2021, 09:18:42 AM
LB - yesterday ended up with CHANGEUP-PERFECTS but HANGUP and PREFECTS also worked. I had been trying to get to PREFECTURE, alas, b4ss.

ETA: Already some 3fers so should be close. 

SB - off to a start. Need to remember to add the -ING to every word I come up with and should hit "genius" soon enough.



Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 16, 2021, 09:28:34 AM
You're welcome and thank you, Langue_doc! Good thinking on the crossword, though.  It wasn't that bad once some of the longer answers got filled in, but you never know with a Saturday.   BTW, I see that the bee creator was the crossword constructor today. 

Ciao_yall, I got CHANGEUP-PREFECTS before I realized that PERFECTS also worked.   Haven't gained much traction on today's yet.

I'm right at 80% on the bee so far but will keep trying for Alpha Bee.  Got easy and medium sudokus done and am making progress on hard.  I know the next round come out earlier today, so I'm trying to get as far as I can.  At least I managed to finish the unsolved hard sudoko queue.

Yesterday's bee annoyed me because alee and alienee weren't in there, though they are always in the dang crossword.  Like I said above, Sam Ezersky did the crossword today, and I am keeping a mental notebook of any answers there to see if they are accepted in the bee when the letters allow.  If not, he will receive correspondence from me. ;-)

Good day and happy solving to you all!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 16, 2021, 11:42:49 AM
After a fair number of contenders in LB, I finally managed to wrangle remaining letters for one of them into a mate, so I got a 2fer.  Was close with another one if not for the B4SS issue.

Still 6 points away from Alpha Bee, darn it.  Husband is ahead of me but still has one point to go before he is at Alpha Bee.  That is his goal now, too!

But, I did finish the hard sudoku without errors.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 16, 2021, 03:01:15 PM
I also have one point to go for Alpha Bee.  I know it must be there, but I just don’t see it—never mind the several more I need for QB.   Like Langue_doc, I was annoyed that kine was rejected.  I like those old words (like wight a few days ago)!  And what’s up with the rejection of knap/knapping? 

For yesterday’s LB, I got hangup-prefects. But today was my real victory, as I found a solution on the very first try!  It will be a long time before that happens again. 

I unlocked the key to the hard sudoku by what I imagined was razor-sharp reasoning, but it was probably just a lucky guess. 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 16, 2021, 03:26:40 PM
Yay, Cathwen, on your immediate LB! And good luck getting your one more point in the bee!  We ended up with a satisfactory (if not super exciting) finale for the bee today.  Husband got his four-letter word to get him to Alpha Bee (117 pts), and thankfully I got a 6-letter that brought me to the same total, same number of words.  So we both made it to Alpha Bee, and when we compared we had the exact same lists.  The final three words that I had to look at the answers for were ones I doubt we would ever have come up with unless we just stumbled upon them, so I'm glad we got to Alpha and quit!!  We also tried knap/knapping and a bunch of other stuff.  There's a word I have been waiting for the right letters for, and it wasn't in there! Too archaic, I guess? That would be a laugh considering some of what's in there today.

I don't doubt you have razor-sharp sudoku reasoning skills! There's a situation I come across sometimes that I feel implies a particular outcome, but I'm not sure if it does or not.  I've started going with it, and it's worked out.  Maybe if I thought it through in the abstract I could figure out if it's for real or not.  So I'm feeling my way around and think I'm developing some intuitions.  In any case, I guess the next round has come out, so I'll see how I do there.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 16, 2021, 05:08:10 PM
I got a 2fer as well.

cathwen, wow on the 2fer! 2fer on the first try - that needs an acronym. 2F1G (2fer on the first go?) 2F1S (2fer on the first strike?) Suggestions?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 16, 2021, 05:24:41 PM
Yay to y'all.

I've been prepping, mainly tweaking directions for assignments and due dates, so haven't made any progress on any of the puzzles. I did get a head start on the crossword earlier this afternoon.

I'll probably continue with the prep as I seem to be on a roll.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 16, 2021, 05:39:22 PM
Got my genius SB, but noted several omissions. We'll see if I remember them tomorrow.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 17, 2021, 08:49:46 AM
...nankeen?

Yesterday rejected kine, pika, and kenning.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 17, 2021, 08:50:20 AM
Haven't found the pangram yet, but made it to above genius. Alpha Bee yesterday.

As for yesterday's LB, I found the two-fer late last night, after I had completed the Sunday crossword. I have the same words as the official solution. I decided to give LB one more try as I didn't want to be left out of the two-fer crowd.

On to vertex and then LB.

ETA: kine, villein, and a few other words of the same vintage are routinely rejected. I try them anyway.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 17, 2021, 09:16:24 AM
We missed nankeen (though I tried Nanking even though I knew that probably wouldn't work), kippa, and kepi.  I was hoping pannikin might finally be in there.  No luck.  I guess some archaic words > others.  Looks like 189 is Alpha Bee today.  I got to genius + and a pangram but am still 36 points away from Alpha!

Congrats on genius yesterday, Parasaurolophus! Good  luck today.

And congrats on genius + today, Langue_doc, and Alpha Bee yesterday! And a 2fer! Mine were EXTREME-EVALUATING.  I have a few contenders today but no real traction yet.

I have a problem in my dang crossword, so of course I am not sure if it's an error with one of my answers or a technical foul, the fun part of doing tricky puzzles on the app.  I will go back through and resolve it at some point.  Still have the hard sudoku to attempt.  I got through medium with some errors to fix late yesterday afternoon but was just too tired to do well on it.

Happy solving, one and all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 17, 2021, 09:21:32 AM
Ah yes, I mean to note villein, too.

And yeah, I tried 'atlatl' again today, and 'lich' and 'elven' the other day. Sigh.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 17, 2021, 10:30:52 AM
LB yesterday - MIXER-REVALUATING. Today's looks sticky.

Also off to a slow start with SB.

In the hard copy of the paper I got the panagram first, and also finished the Patrick Berry puzzle in one go. Waiting for husband to start the Sunday Crossword so I can finish it - kind of our Sunday tradition.

I think he could finish them if he stayed focused, but he gets bored and wants to do other things.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 17, 2021, 11:07:06 AM
Good luck with the bee, ciao_yall! It's got some kind of tough words.  I finally made it to exactly Alpha Bee, husband wanted to move on, so we compared and got to QB.  I cannot believe I missed a particular word, ironically, again.  But, at least that's conquered.  There were some words we both thought should be in there.

Also resolved the crossword, thankfully, by looking at the list view and seeing where there were some things I could change.  Now onto the hard sudoku and more LB attempts.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 17, 2021, 01:00:36 PM
Made it to just above Alpha Bee, but no pangram in sight, alas!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 17, 2021, 01:09:31 PM
Made it to just above Alpha Bee, but no pangram in sight, alas!

Wow!! That is a lot of points to get without the pangram.  For a while, I had suspected there could be two, but there ended up just being the one.  I was lucky to see it pretty much right off the bat.  Good luck if you keep trying to find it, but yay for Alpha Bee in the meantime!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 17, 2021, 01:39:29 PM
Alpha Bee!  That is impressive, Langue_doc!  I am a good bit away from that, although I made genius and did find the pangram.  Maybe I'll get back to this later.

LB was more of a struggle today, but I finally did find a solution.  Yesterday I got extreme-evaluating.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 17, 2021, 01:57:46 PM
2fer in LB.

Found the panagram in SB but still stuck at "amazing." Then I find a few easy words... and still "amazing." GAH!

ETA - a hint and a few reminders from the Comments board, and "genius" is achieved,
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 17, 2021, 03:11:43 PM
Congrats, all. I'm still stuck at Alpha Bee and no pangram, but tomorrow's crosswords are out, so goodbye LB and SB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 17, 2021, 07:49:02 PM
The panagram on SB... I was just playing around. I didn't think it was a word and then boom.

Well, not boom, because that doesn't happen on the tame world of SB. I didn't even get a happy bee.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 17, 2021, 07:55:32 PM
The panagram on SB... I was just playing around. I didn't think it was a word and then boom.

Well, not boom, because that doesn't happen on the tame world of SB. I didn't even get a happy bee.


Weirdly, SB doesn't accept the variant of the pangram that you can spell with one letter less.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 18, 2021, 07:37:27 AM
Morning, all.

Missed the pangram and 'atop' yesterday. Grrr! I'm missing the pangram today as well, but made it to genius.

Gave up on LB last night, and might probably do the same with today's puzzle. But I got the crossword and sudokus as usual, and also vertex.

Happy solving y'all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 18, 2021, 07:56:41 AM
Good morning!

I had some struggles with the bee today but finally managed to get to about 91% for Alpha Bee.  Not sure if I'll make it to QB, we'll see.  Took forever and a day to figure out the pangram at a good bit past genius, and then there were a bunch of pretty obvious words that I finally found.  Good luck! There are a couple words I think should be in there given other accepted answers, as usual.  Yesterday I thought allopath should have been included.

Never got the LB 2fer from yesterday.  I thought I had some good contenders with EMPHASIS and ESOPHAGUS.  Oh well.  Maybe today.  I had to start a new notebook for it.

I did the mini crossword last night to get it out of the way since husband doesn't do that one anyway.  Main crossword was pretty easy.  Still have today's hard sudoku to attempt.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 18, 2021, 08:28:19 AM
Today's LB doesn't give us a lot of room to maneuver. A few good contenders that eat up a lot of letters, but can't quite pair them up.

SB - going okay. Not taking a few words it seems it should. Stuck at "great" for now but I'll pick it up later.

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 18, 2021, 11:22:02 AM
Hit "genius" and accidentally tripped over the LB solution while on the NYT Crosswords Board looking for hints on the SB.

The 2fer solution is a weird one, IMHO. Not sure I would have gotten it on my own - another one of those compound words that you don't think of as being a word.

LB lately it seems to set up single 2fers as the solution instead of multiples, which is kind of fun as people find different ones. Today's didn't leave much to work with - lots of B4SS issues.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 18, 2021, 03:10:50 PM
I almost gave up on LB, but found a solution.  I'll be curious to see what the official solution is.  As ciao_yall said, one of the words doesn’t seem like a real word. 

I made genius in SB and got the pangram, but probably will not try for more.  It's not one of those days when words just pop out at me.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 18, 2021, 05:44:07 PM
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I almost gave up on LB, but found a solution.  I'll be curious to see what the official solution is.  As ciao_yall said, one of the words doesn’t seem like a real word.

I made genius in SB and got the pangram, but probably will not try for more.  It's not one of those days when words just pop out at me.

Yes, they were saying the same thing on the comments thread about SB.

You have a gift for LB!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 19, 2021, 07:55:12 AM
Good job on the LB 2fers! You're right, taxiway is not a word I would have thought of.  Not close to fragment, either.  Hopefully today's will be better.

Didn't do much in the way of puzzling yet, but I did get a pangram at least.  Time to get the crossword and trivia league out of the way momentarily, thankfully with coffee!!

Still no luck on the hard sudoku from yesterday.  I asked it for a hint, and it highlighted a cell that it thinks is the next most logical to work on.  I have no idea yet why it thinks yet, but I will have another go at it today after I try today's puzzles.  I have only entered three numbers so far! And I think I have carefully gone through every row, column, and container.  I am obviously missing something.  Luckily in previous puzzles I eventually got it, even if it took days.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 19, 2021, 08:10:25 AM
The LB word is rather specialized, as it is a term that would be familiar to only certain airport employees such as pilots and maintenance people who have been cleared to taxi a plane on the runway.
The FAA notes the safety issues associated with using runways as taxiways by pilots:

"A common Air Traffic Control (ATC) practice lately is to utilize an active or inactive runway as a taxiway due to airport geometry, construction, congestion, or taxiway restrictions which can increase risk as signage is spread further apart and sometimes difficult to read from the cockpit. An additional hazard is the intersections of runway-to-runway crossing points are frequently missing many of the visual cues present on taxiways such as signs, markings, and lighting. Find out about this Safety Alert and the recommendations to mitigate at your facility."

SB--I'm at Alpha Bee today. Crosswords, sudokus, and vertex have been successfully tackled. I'm not sure if I want to deal with LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 19, 2021, 08:36:07 AM
Yesterday, got FRAGMENT and noticed TAXI then thought what am I going to do with the W and Y... When I did see the solution I remembered oh yeah, on planes, they are always announcing that "we will be waiting in line on the taxiway before getting on the runway..."

Today's LB - an N would come in handy, and what is up with putting the X with a vowel and the H with an I? Grr...




Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 19, 2021, 08:46:22 AM
Yes, I thought taxiway was just a tad specialized.  I was sure it would be rejected, and was rather surprised when it wasn't.  Thanks for the information on taxiways, Langue_doc!

Did anyone get a solution different from the official one? 

For today's LB, I found a wonderful word that uses all letters...B4SS!   I did get a 2-fer, though. 

I made genius on SB and a little beyond, but QB is probably not in my future.  Tomorrow I'll probably be banging my head when I see the words that I missed.

I screwed up royally on the hard sudoku (so much for razor-sharp reasoning) and had to backtrack, but finally solved it.  The crossword awaits,  but not until after I've done some actual work.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 19, 2021, 09:14:29 AM
Yes, I thought taxiway was just a tad specialized.  I was sure it would be rejected, and was rather surprised when it wasn't.  Thanks for the information on taxiways, Langue_doc!

Did anyone get a solution different from the official one? 

For today's LB, I found a wonderful word that uses all letters...B4SS!   I did get a 2-fer, though. 


Given that the only solution found by the commenters on the Crosswords board was the official one, I think that was the only one.

Already a 2fer?  You have a knack!

ETA: 2fer B4SS. Gah!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 19, 2021, 09:29:20 AM
Already a 2fer?  You have a knack!

Agreed! Good job, cathwen! No luck for me so far.  As for the sudoku today, I managed to screw up the easy one! I think I need to wake up a little more.

Congrats on the Alpha Bee, Langue_doc! I just got there myself.  I don't think husband had gotten to genius yet, so not sure if we will compare anytime soon, and he has a meeting coming up that will keep him busy.  I still have about 14 points to QB, but that may not happen today.

Good luck to us on the LB, ciao_yall! (and Langue_doc, if that ends up on the agenda)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 19, 2021, 10:32:56 AM
Looks like you're all making progress. No luck so far on LB. I too want an 'n'! All the promising letters are on the same side.

ETA: I don't usually get to look at the comments on the crosswords board as there are a mere handful when I complete the puzzle at night. Last night though, I wanted to object to the clue for 1A, but it turned out that the clue was indeed correct, according to several comments there when I checked this morning. I did see, for the first time, the SB hints that ciao_yall often refers to.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 19, 2021, 11:06:49 AM
Husband got to genius, and we decided to compare lists since I was at Alpha Bee and he didn't feel like continuing.  He added a word to my list, and we still had some room to QB.  Glad we finally looked at the answers, because I do not think we would have gotten the final few points.  Oh well, on to other things.

Still no LB luck for me, either.  Lots of OH... no, darnit moments. 

I don't tend to read the crossword comments anymore unless the puzzle has elements that I think will cause controversy, because now that I play the bee and letterboxed I want to avoid seeing anything I don't want to see.

Didn't get to the medium or hard sudokus, yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 19, 2021, 01:31:55 PM
In case anyone here does not follow Sam Ezersky (bee creator), he tweeted that we should leave more time for Friday's bee (https://twitter.com/thegridkid/status/1351624915749924864):

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Leave yourselves TIME for this Friday's Bee. To those of you who must reach a certain tier before starting the day: adjust that alarm accordingly.

Wouldn't run a challenge if I didn't think it came with a fun factor ... but let's find out.

I'll add that there is NO "s" ... nor is the word count any higher than a normal "hard" day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 19, 2021, 02:10:27 PM
Thanks, ab_grp. I'm too old school to follow tweets on Twitter.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 19, 2021, 03:13:45 PM
Genius on SB. 2fer on LB. Also found a word (I think same as cathwen's) that uses up all the letters in one go, B4SS.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 19, 2021, 03:32:18 PM
Yay, ciao_yall! I just got a 2fer as well.  And congrats on genius!

Langue_doc, I hope the warning helps us all if we can remember come Friday.  I'm interested to see what kind of challenge he's cooked up.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 19, 2021, 05:40:24 PM

For today's LB, I found a wonderful word that uses all letters...B4SS! 


Whoa, what?! Wow!

I found one that uses 11 letters, but it rejected it.


In case anyone here does not follow Sam Ezersky (bee creator), he tweeted that we should leave more time for Friday's bee (https://twitter.com/thegridkid/status/1351624915749924864):

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Leave yourselves TIME for this Friday's Bee. To those of you who must reach a certain tier before starting the day: adjust that alarm accordingly.

Wouldn't run a challenge if I didn't think it came with a fun factor ... but let's find out.

I'll add that there is NO "s" ... nor is the word count any higher than a normal "hard" day.

Oh! That's exciting! I'll have to try harder Friday.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 19, 2021, 06:37:35 PM
In case anyone here does not follow Sam Ezersky (bee creator), he tweeted that we should leave more time for Friday's bee (https://twitter.com/thegridkid/status/1351624915749924864):

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Leave yourselves TIME for this Friday's Bee. To those of you who must reach a certain tier before starting the day: adjust that alarm accordingly.

Wouldn't run a challenge if I didn't think it came with a fun factor ... but let's find out.

I'll add that there is NO "s" ... nor is the word count any higher than a normal "hard" day.



Oh! That's exciting! I'll have to try harder Friday.

I put it on my calendar just in case I forget, but I doubt it, because I am excited too! I am really curious about what kind of challenge it is.  Hopefully it won't disappoint.

And an 11-letter word rejected? Sorry, I'm sure it would probably have been accepted in other contexts.  That's really close to all the letters, especially if you avoided the b4ss issue!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 19, 2021, 09:04:49 PM
I think I  know the word cathwen' s referring to.

No luck on LB, but tomorrow's crosswords are done.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 20, 2021, 06:39:35 AM
Above genius on SB. It's going to be a long day, so I don't think I'll have much time for puzzling.

Happy solving, all.

The long word was 'lexicography'; if it hadn't been for the B4SS, I'd have been a double genius!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 20, 2021, 07:27:25 AM
LB yesterday - Got the official solution which was EXPO-OLIGARGHY. And, yeah, major bummer about LEXICOGRAPHY!!!!! Do we think they did that on purpose just to taunt us?

Lately there seem to be just single solutions. Yesterday I didn't even get a 3fer before finding lexicography.

Off to today's...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 20, 2021, 07:40:47 AM
24 words, 101 points; this made my day!

ETA: There was just one unfamiliar word-- I'm familiar with this word as a proper noun.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 20, 2021, 09:56:41 AM
Yeah! Congrats on QB, Langue_doc! I'm a couple points away and am not sure if I will figure it out, but at least I got to Alpha Bee.  Maybe the unfamiliar word is the one holding me up...

I also got the official LB solution yesterday.  Today I have a nice, long word that only left two letters, but I can't figure out what to do with them. 

Finished the hard sudoku yesterday more quickly than usual and without errors.  I haven't tried today's medium or hard yet, because it's been a bit distracting today (in a good way!).
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 20, 2021, 10:22:00 AM
ab-grp Yeah, some nice long words, and some 2fer B4SS. Did finally make a 2fer with a nice long word and a short oddball.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 20, 2021, 11:10:15 AM
Above genius on SB. It's going to be a long day, so I don't think I'll have much time for puzzling.

Happy solving, all.

The long word was 'lexicography'; if it hadn't been for the B4SS, I'd have been a double genius!

Oh, lexicography! Nice! My long (but not accepted, and ultimately not useful anyway) one was 'axiological'.

I, too, had an easy Bee today.


By the by, I think I missed the discussion where these first came up: what are you guys calling 'alpha bee', and what does 'b4ss' stand for (I gather it's having letters stuck on the same side  but...)?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 20, 2021, 11:28:47 AM
By the by, I think I missed the discussion where these first came up: what are you guys calling 'alpha bee', and what does 'b4ss' stand for (I gather it's having letters stuck on the same side  but...)?

We kind of came up with a draft naming convention for the 80% and 90% of total points.  I had proposed that 80% be a B, so Bee or Baby Bee or something like that.  I don't know if we came to agreement on that one, but I think we have agreed to 90% being an A, so Alpha Bee.   Did you get to QB?

Ciao_yall came up with b4ss, which is in LB "but for the same side" (correct me if I'm wrong!).  So yep, your interpretation was correct, I think, that a 2fer could have been had if certain letters had not been on the same side.

I am still determined to try to get my long word to work in LB today! Still haven't found the final bee word, but at least I know how long it is.  Managed to get the medium sudoku done in a reasonable time without errors, so I will try for hard now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 20, 2021, 12:44:36 PM
By the by, I think I missed the discussion where these first came up: what are you guys calling 'alpha bee', and what does 'b4ss' stand for (I gather it's having letters stuck on the same side  but...)?

We kind of came up with a draft naming convention for the 80% and 90% of total points.  I had proposed that 80% be a B, so Bee or Baby Bee or something like that.  I don't know if we came to agreement on that one, but I think we have agreed to 90% being an A, so Alpha Bee.   Did you get to QB?

Ciao_yall came up with b4ss, which is in LB "but for the same side" (correct me if I'm wrong!).  So yep, your interpretation was correct, I think, that a 2fer could have been had if certain letters had not been on the same side.


Ah! Perfect, thanks!

No QB for me yet, but I can't be far off.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 20, 2021, 12:51:41 PM
You're very welcome! It's nice to have those checkpoints to shoot for between genius and QB.  I finally did make it to QB, thankfully, after happening on the correct final word by trying every possible combination of letters.  Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 20, 2021, 01:21:49 PM
Langue_doc and ab_grp, congratulations on another QB!  QB is still elusive for me.  I did get today's pangram, but I'm barely above genius.  C-Bee?

But...I did get a 2-fer for LB today.  I don't like the second word--it's apparently a variant spelling, and one I would never choose.  But it was accepted, so who am I to argue? 



Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 20, 2021, 02:07:32 PM
Langue_doc and ab_grp, congratulations on another QB!  QB is still elusive for me.  I did get today's pangram, but I'm barely above genius.  C-Bee?

But...I did get a 2-fer for LB today.  I don't like the second word--it's apparently a variant spelling, and one I would never choose.  But it was accepted, so who am I to argue?

Other than the proper noun-y word, the meaning of which I still haven't looked up, the words aren't too difficult. Shuffling the letters helps.

Congrats all on LB. I haven't gotten beyond the three or four long words I found this morning. Today's vertex was appropriate. I have my book group coming up tonight, and then have to work on course stuff, so I'm all puzzled out for today, probably with the exception of tomorrow's crosswords.

C sounds depressing, at least in the opinion of some --rather, several--of my students. Genius implies scores above B!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 20, 2021, 02:24:29 PM
Thanks, cathwen! Just keep in mind that genius is the official top score.  And as Langue_doc said, shuffling really can help.  For what it's worth, the final word I found was not really obscure in retrospect.  And, I agree also that none of the words were very difficult or obscure.  Whether or not they pop out is another thing entirely, of course.  Congrats on the 2fer! I still haven't found a mate for my long word.  Maybe it's just not the right word.  Just so tempting with so few letters left!

I am curious what the proper noun-y word was...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 20, 2021, 06:13:11 PM
Dang, the proper noun-y word is actually a part of the anatomy, one that I know. For some strange reason, I kept thinking of the Trojan War, especially the quote from Dr. Faustus.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 20, 2021, 06:26:31 PM
Dang, the proper noun-y word is actually a part of the anatomy, one that I know. For some strange reason, I kept thinking of the Trojan War, especially the quote from Dr. Faustus.

That was my final word! I realized I am more familiar with other versions of it but will have to keep an eye out for that one in the future.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 20, 2021, 07:05:30 PM
Dang, the proper noun-y word is actually a part of the anatomy, one that I know. For some strange reason, I kept thinking of the Trojan War, especially the quote from Dr. Faustus.

That was my final word! I realized I am more familiar with other versions of it but will have to keep an eye out for that one in the future.

I think that was my final word as well. Crosswords are out--I mean published, so onward and upward. No LB for me tonight, unless inspiration strikes, which I think is quite unlikely.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 21, 2021, 07:50:11 AM
Morning!

LB Yesterday I got dug-glorification. My b4ss were fluctuatinng-ground, conflagration-nudging. There were some good 3fers: acidic-conflagration which left a "u" hanging, and tunic-conflagration which left a "d" hanging.

Official solution was "guardian-nonficitional" -  "fictional" is in one of my saved 3fers, as is "fornication."

Onward...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 21, 2021, 07:57:53 AM
Morning all. Today's SB was rather difficult even though the words I found so far are ones that we would consider familiar/current. It took me a lot of shuffling to get to above genius.

Crosswords and sudokus are done--I didn't care too much for today's puzzle.

I've given up on LB mainly due to time constraints. Vertex looks a bit complicated today as I've had to erase numerous incorrect links.

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 21, 2021, 08:31:59 AM
Good morning!

Just got right to Alpha Bee this morning so far.  But I am bugged... I swear there is a word that used to be accepted that isn't today? Husband agrees.  WTF, bee?!

Still working on the crossword.  I have something wrong, but given that it's a tricky Thursday I'm not sure if it's an answer I have wrong or a technical foul.  I'll work on it more later.

I thought for sure conflagration would lead to a solution yesterday but just could not make the remaining letters work without -ing being available.  Seems like the same woes that ciao_yall was beset by.  I also thought clarification or gratification might work, but same issue.

Good luck all around!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 21, 2021, 08:50:22 AM
Is it a six-letter word, perchance?

I've been struggling with this Bee, but that's not unusual of a morning. We'll see what the rest of the day brings!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 21, 2021, 09:14:10 AM
Is it a six-letter word, perchance?

I've been struggling with this Bee, but that's not unusual of a morning. We'll see what the rest of the day brings!

Mine is a 5-letter word.  So maybe more than one word has disappeared as others have been added to the "acceptable" list.  Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 21, 2021, 11:16:57 AM
Finally made it to QB after recalling a couple words we have missed in the past.  Whew.  After, I looked at my database, and that word I mentioned has definitely been in there at least 6 times since I started the database. 

Also finally got the crossword sorted out and finished the medium sudoku.  I'm having the same experience today with the hard one that I did yesterday.  I think "is it just me, or is this a lot easier than usual?", and then you can probably guess what happens eventually.   A mistake, a loud sigh, backtracking, trying again.  Still no real luck with LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 21, 2021, 12:25:00 PM
Finally made it to QB after recalling a couple words we have missed in the past.  Whew.  After, I looked at my database, and that word I mentioned has definitely been in there at least 6 times since I started the database. 

Also finally got the crossword sorted out and finished the medium sudoku.  I'm having the same experience today with the hard one that I did yesterday.  I think "is it just me, or is this a lot easier than usual?", and then you can probably guess what happens eventually.   A mistake, a loud sigh, backtracking, trying again.  Still no real luck with LB.

Congrats on your QB! Is one of the words a four-letter one? That was my last word today, and it's a word that keeps recurring just like the word 'acai' which I've seen in numerous SBs. I don't think of this word as an independent word though.

I'm stuck on the vertex. It's almost complete, but I don't know how to undo the mistakes so I'll have to reset the puzzle and start all over again.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 21, 2021, 12:38:34 PM
Thanks, Langue_doc! My final word was a 4-letter word that has popped up somewhat recently and that I had to look up.  And there was another word of similar sort that I found very close to the end.  I'm guessing one of those is the one you're referring to.  Does this mean you also got QB? If so, congrats to you as well!  Good luck rectifying your vertex puzzle.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 21, 2021, 01:32:58 PM
Genius in SB, but nowhere in LB so far...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: reener06 on January 21, 2021, 04:01:05 PM
Worst day ever for me. I blame the red wine from celebrating yesterday. Stuck at nice in the bee, no pangram. It's just not happening. And I gave up halfway through the crossword. Really don't know what they are getting at.

On the plus side I did good work on an article and edited a student's thesis chapter and had a meeting, so all is not totally lost.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 21, 2021, 06:06:07 PM
A few weak 3fers and finally went up to the Crossword Comments crowd. Apparently there is only one solution today, so there we go. So many great words b4ss, which seemed to make it hard to get moving to play with words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 21, 2021, 07:10:29 PM
No luck for me in LB today, either, and not really any great contender words that left few remaining letters.  If there is only one solution, I guess it's a lot harder to find.

Reener06, I definitely have days like that.  And I didn't get what to do with the crossword completely for a while, so I had a mistake that was easier to fix once I knew.  But I also hear you on the red wine.  For me, that was yesterday, because I was up way too late (and had too much red wine) Tuesday night being both excited and fearful about what might transpire.  There's always more puzzling out there, for us, luckily! Tomorrow is another day.  If you didn't see the earlier note, tomorrow's bee will apparently be a challenge, so hopefully that is something to look forward to! And you got some real things accomplished!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 21, 2021, 08:28:42 PM
Tomorrow's crossword wasn't too bad, especially when compared to today's, so that's out of the way. It was relatively easy and rather entertaining for a Friday. I might get to the sudokus, at least the easy one.

reneer06, the crossword was the teeth-grinding kind. I got the weird (not logical) long words only because I'd found the other words first, so just filled in the letters without really knowing what I was doing.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 21, 2021, 10:28:21 PM
As usual, made it to genius while brushing my teeth before bed. Tough one today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 22, 2021, 04:27:39 AM
Did you see today's? It's a pain in the behind. 376 to genius! What in the world were the editors thinking? That we belong to the leisurely class of yore?

I'm at nice with 158 points and one pangram.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 22, 2021, 07:43:10 AM
Yep, a whopping 537 points total?! Or about that?! But remember he said the word list wouldn't necessarily be longer, so I guess the words are longer.  I managed to get to about 235 and 2 pangrams while getting ready.   Luckily there are a lot of big (but not difficult) words.  But I wouldn't necessarily call it a challenge, unfortunately.  Maybe the letters start to disappear or the device starts sparking at some point.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 22, 2021, 08:02:41 AM
I have six pangrams and 296 points (amazing) so far.

Edit: 333 now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: OneMoreYear on January 22, 2021, 08:11:08 AM
So many pangrams today! I definitely don't have the attention span to make it all the way through that many points, but for those who will find all the words, I salute you!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 22, 2021, 08:37:37 AM
Yeah, today's SB is what I call a "grinder." Lost count of panagrams. At amazing and 304 points, hope to hit genius soon.

Yesterday's LB was bungalow-witch. I found witch, but I think the tricky thing about bungalow was that "witch" was easy to find, but left a lot of blank letters on the same side. Intuitively one avoids that situation due to the b4ss issue. And I was stuck not finding a lot of words that ended with "w."

Found a very odd 3fer today so far. If nothing else, LB is making me open to crazy possibilities! So that's good for my brain.

Happy solving today, y'all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 22, 2021, 08:43:35 AM
Well, I'm up to 428 points and a bunch of pangrams, but Alpha Bee is about 484 points! Yikes.  Probably sudoku for a bit and get back to it and hope to hit Alpha, at least.  I had made my way to about 305 points and decided to look back at my list to see what obvious ones I had forgotten that were related to ones I already had and made it quickly up to almost 390.  Lots of bookkeeping.

Crossword wasn't bad at all for a Friday, though like others in the comments I had a few thoughts on the "football powerhouse" of the Big 10. 

I thought of "witch" for LB yesterday but figured it would leave too many letters leftover.  Also tried glitch, wagon, unlatch, and antilog, and a compound word that they apparently don't accept as they did not accept the first "naughty" (?) part of it.  Oh well, maybe today's will be easy, though it doesn't sound like it from what ciao_yall has reported.

Good luck, everyone!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 22, 2021, 12:15:09 PM
Made it to above genius with several pangrams. I think I need a stiff drink but it's too early for that.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 22, 2021, 01:05:18 PM
I guess I'm on a roll with LB.  I got yesterday’s official answer, and after some gnashing of teeth, found a 2-fer today as well.

I am just one point beyond genius in SB.  I may get back to it, although I have some actual work to do, so maybe not!   Langue-doc, if you're pouring stiff drinks, I'll have one, too.  SB is a real grind today.

Ab_grp, 428 points is awesome! 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 22, 2021, 01:59:39 PM
Wow, cathwen, you really are on a LB roll! I still haven't had much luck but had a 2-hr call with a friendly colleague take up some time.

Langue_doc, I could use one as well if you're pouring.  I managed to get to 508 points or so, so finally past Alpha Bee, but still 30 some points left to go? Yeek. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 22, 2021, 02:20:49 PM
Cheers all. I inched up to 440 or so. I was gone most of the morning, and then had course work, so haven't even looked at LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 22, 2021, 02:32:02 PM
508 points!  Egad, ab_grp, that is astounding!  I'm only up to 425. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 22, 2021, 02:33:52 PM
Thanks, cathwen! I am now at 521 points.  This bee is taking a long time, but I'm trying to tell myself it is an unusual day and to go with it.  I don't want to give up.  Husband and I had the same number of words and different number of points, so we have some disparity in our lists but won't compare for a bit if at all.  I am still hoping for QB and am still finding words I should have found before, so maybe there is a glimmer of hope.  No real tough words so far, so I think it is more persistence than anything.  I could be wrong.  More good luck vibes all around!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 22, 2021, 03:09:36 PM
Genius, 381 points, over it. Tackling LB. A few 3fers and almost 2fers but for an odd letter or two, so hope I'm close.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 22, 2021, 03:24:33 PM
The words are all familiar ones. If you play around with the endings, you can find more words and pangrams. Think prefixes and suffixes!

Just over 500 now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 22, 2021, 04:05:14 PM
Ciao_yall, I hope you get the 2fer!

And Langue_doc, I am rooting for you for QB! I am definitely flagging at this point.  Will try to keep at it given how close.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 22, 2021, 05:47:09 PM
ab_grp, hope you made it to QB. There were only a couple of words that I found by playing around with the letters. All the other words are ones we know or have seen on SB. Whew!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 22, 2021, 07:26:06 PM
Did you make it QB, Langue_doc?  I hope so!! I think from the comments here that you are our best hope.  We gave up.  I gave husband 3 words, and he gave me two, but we got to QB as a team and Alpha + as individuals, so enough was enough.  My two missing words included one I have missed before, and I should have gotten both given that they were variants of words we had.  Only one word in the whole list was what I would consider a "spelling bee only" word that I have never used in real life.  I hope you got to QB!!!!! We should all be pretty happy with our efforts, though.  I'm glad I saw that tweet, because I think I would have just about fallen on the floor if I saw genius at 376 points without warning.  Anyway, my eyes were getting blurry, shoulders hurt.  Tough day.  Wowweewow.  Just think, hopefully no other bee will be this arduous...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 22, 2021, 10:01:54 PM
Made it to genius and 380 in the end. That may have to do it for me.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 23, 2021, 06:34:06 AM
Did you make it QB, Langue_doc?  I hope so!! I think from the comments here that you are our best hope.  We gave up.  I gave husband 3 words, and he gave me two, but we got to QB as a team and Alpha + as individuals, so enough was enough.  My two missing words included one I have missed before, and I should have gotten both given that they were variants of words we had.  Only one word in the whole list was what I would consider a "spelling bee only" word that I have never used in real life.  I hope you got to QB!!!!! We should all be pretty happy with our efforts, though.  I'm glad I saw that tweet, because I think I would have just about fallen on the floor if I saw genius at 376 points without warning.  Anyway, my eyes were getting blurry, shoulders hurt.  Tough day.  Wowweewow.  Just think, hopefully no other bee will be this arduous...

Yeehaw, yes I did! My last word was concoction--don't know how I missed this one-- and the penultimate one, ovine. The latter and toonie were the only two words that I had to guess. Once I started getting words such as convenient, inconvenient, convenience, inconvenience, and so on, I kept at it, as I thought that given the number of points needed for genius, the words would be relatively easy. It was the most tedious puzzle though.

Congrats on getting to QB as a team. That does count. And a big thanks for the warning about the challenging SB.

As for today, I'm above genius.

I wouldn't have guessed the two words in LB, not even if I had spent all day on the puzzle.

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Made it to genius and 380 in the end. That may have to do it for me.

Congrats on making it to genius. As I mentioned above, it was a tedious puzzle.
Congrats too to cathwen and ciao_yall.

Happy solving all.

ETA 138 points so far, familiar words with one exception.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 23, 2021, 07:52:03 AM
Wow, QB on yesterday's has to be some other title.  I haven't had coffee yet.  Ultimate Bee? Congratulations, Langue_doc! I am so happy one of our group got to QB!!  It's funny what one finally gets or ends up missing sometimes.  I missed innocence (though I had innocent!) and evictee (though I had evict and invitee).  Argh.  I was just too tired to go on.   Husband was peeved to miss cocci, and I know he missed votive, but I forget what the third word was. 

Congrats to you as well, Parasaurolophus!! It was a long haul.  At least today's feels sprightly in comparison. 

Oh the word I mentioned the other day that was suddenly no longer acceptable was "iliad".  Anyone else notice that? It's in my database at least 6 times, but I guess it is no longer allowed.

Didn't really start today's yet, so time for coffee and crosswords and then puzzles.  Oh yeah, absolutely no way on the LB puzzle yesterday! What solution did the solvers get?

Happy solving to all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 23, 2021, 08:10:55 AM
LB The official solution was "hijinks-superb." I didn't even get close, though had a very close 3fer with "jibing-gherkins-sup." It also took "bejesus" and "jujubes" so I declared both a b4ss and Yiddish 2fer with jujubes-shprinking. 

Oddly enough, I recall it not taking "jinks" so I figured it was only taking the "jinx" variation.

On to todays...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 23, 2021, 10:37:05 AM
Today's Bee seemed so much easier by comparison!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 23, 2021, 10:56:41 AM
Yay, did you get to QB today, Parasaurolophus? I think I have about 9 points to go to QB, but at least I got to Alpha.  Definitely a better ride than yesterday overall.   I really wish yesterday's had some more interesting words. 

Good luck on LB, ciao_yall! I'm hoping for a 2fer for you.  I have a couple seemingly good contenders but haven't been able to make mates yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 23, 2021, 12:16:52 PM
Genius on SB.

LB - some 3fers, a 2fer b4ss. So hope I'm getting close.

NYT and WSJ crosswords done. Almost done on the WSJ variety puzzle but stuck.

I need a:

7 letter word for for "benevolent and sweet natured." Has a C in it. ETA: "angelic"
7-letter, 2-word solution for "Take a risky position on a board." Has an A and a G in it. ETA ^2 "hang ten"

I can't really tell you the positions because it's a circular puzzle and I'm not sure where the words start and end.

DONE!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 23, 2021, 01:30:04 PM
Well, I finally made QB today!  This is a first for me. 

But Langue_doc, getting QB on yesterday's--which was so much longer and more arduous--is a stupendous achievement!  Congratulations! 

And I got yesterday's LB (the official solution), but today's is just not happening.   
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 23, 2021, 02:02:40 PM
cathwen, sent you a pm.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 23, 2021, 02:17:29 PM
Congratulations on your QB today, cathwen! A fantastic first to celebrate! And good luck to you and ciao_yall on the LB. 

We decided to compare bee lists since we were both at Alpha +.  I was missing one word which, naturally, I should have gotten.  But I am not sure I would have.  Husband was missing a couple that he also feels he should have gotten.  Oh well, we gave a lot to yesterday's, so better to take it easier today.   At least I had success on all three sudokus! Looking forward to the next set and will continue on with LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 23, 2021, 02:39:52 PM
Well, I finally made QB today!  This is a first for me. 




Wow, congratulations! Once you break the ice, you start getting it more often.

(And congratulations to everyone who made it yesterday, too!)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 23, 2021, 03:37:31 PM
QB today; my last word was a past tense. Tomorrow's crosswords and sudokus are out.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 23, 2021, 05:53:50 PM
A rash of 3fers... still no 2fer.

ETA - 2FER!!!!!!!!!

And totes legit.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 24, 2021, 06:51:08 AM
Hooray! I got a 2fer too yesterday before closing up shop.  Not the official one, though: EPONYMOUS-SEAWARD.  What solution did you find? Apparently WRAP-PSEUDONYM was official.

Congrats on your QB, Langue_doc!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 24, 2021, 06:58:30 AM
Congratulations on all the 2-fers for yesterday!  I didn't make it yesterday, but found a 2-fer today.  Yay!

I'm a bit beyond genius in SB, which apparently has a maximum of 241 points.  QB seems unlikely today, but I"ll keep coming back to it and see what happens. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 24, 2021, 08:59:08 AM
I found "eponymous-seaward" as well.

Made QB yesterday with help from the comments board. Rather anticlimactic. Usually I just stop at "genius."
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 24, 2021, 10:46:59 AM
QB today; several weird four letter words. The couple of uncommon longer words have appeared on earlier puzzles.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 24, 2021, 10:57:38 AM
Congrats on the QB, Langue_doc! I am at 233, so Alpha Bee +, but I'm not sure if I will get the remaining word(s).  Seems like they were a bit picky today about particular options that would be accepted.

Congrats on your 2fer today, cathwen! I think I have a good contender but need to find a mate.  Good luck if you go for the QB title again!

And congrats on yours yesterday, ciao_yall! Great minds and all.

ETA: got a 2fer.  I ended up trying a different word, and the remaining letters made sense for a mate.  Not sure if I could get another with my original contender...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 24, 2021, 11:09:32 AM
Wow, QB again, Langue_doc!  I'm at 211 points, so I have a good way to go, and probably won't make it today.  I'll look for those weird 4-letter words, though. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 24, 2021, 11:23:04 AM
Good luck, ab_grp and cathwen. I would play around with the letters to find four letter words. There are also a few words ending in -able.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 24, 2021, 11:31:27 AM
Thanks, Langue_doc! I will probably need the luck.  I have a couple weird four-letter words that have been in there before, but I will check for some more.  And the -able acceptability was the pickiness I was referring to.  If it helps, cathwen, there are two pangrams (if you haven't found them both already).
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 24, 2021, 12:12:09 PM
I have found the two pangrams, have entered a number of -able words, and am currently playing around with four letter words.  I'll probably once again be bonking myself on the head with my dictionary when I see what I missed! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 24, 2021, 12:53:22 PM
SB - stuck at "amazing." Will look for more "-able" words. ETA - got "genius."

LB - messy 2fer - I'll keep it. May look for others. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 24, 2021, 01:22:47 PM
25 four-letter words and five -able words. Occasionally I find that a word that I typed wasn't entered by the system, so now I double-check my word list just to make sure that all my words have been accepted. I've found a missing word on at least three occasions this week. As for the other words, these are all words we know or words that have appeared more than once in SB. There was just one unfamiliar compound, but the components were familiar everyday ones. I tried polebean, thinking that it was a single word like crabapple, but discovered that it was in fact two words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 24, 2021, 03:03:33 PM
We finally gave up on the bee.  I was missing three words, two of which were four letters (argh!!), one of which I'd seen before in the bee but tend to forget and one of which I hadn't, and another word I usually get.  At least I made it to Alpha.  Almost QB!

Glad you got a 2fer, ciao_yall, even if it isn't so elegant.  I am guessing mine might be the official one but am not sure.

I'm also glad I was able to get my computer (which had frozen, again, while I was away from it) rebooted and today's hard sudoku reloaded with my progress intact before tomorrow's came out.  I think I made it with about a minute to spare.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 24, 2021, 04:31:03 PM
I have some great words, just can't quite squeeze them into a 2fer.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 24, 2021, 04:34:48 PM
Lede and clitic aren't on the list of acceptable (English) words, but raita and baobab are OK. I'm still struggling with today's pangram.

It wouldn't take BAOBOB today. GAH! (Wow, this thread has been going a while. Ended up on page 1.)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 24, 2021, 04:38:58 PM
It did; I had to check the spelling-- please do so.

ETA I also had to check the spelling of the animal. Google is your friend.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 24, 2021, 04:50:11 PM
Oops, hope I didn't ruin it for anyone.

I did check it on Google but didn't notice it wasn't spelled correctly.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 24, 2021, 05:02:09 PM
I spellchecked an animal in the bee as well today!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 25, 2021, 07:50:41 AM
Good morning!

Just came by to check the LB answers, but it looks like they still have the ones from two days ago (wrap-pseudonym), even though the new puzzle is out.  I even tried on a different browser that I hadn't logged into NYT from before.  Is it just me? I will check later.

Just started making my way through the bee but no pangram yet and have to get coffee and crossword out of the way.  I got through all today's sudokus but still have yesterday's hard to finish.  Oh yeah, I am glad we got to QB as a team yesterday, but he donated "bonbon" (which I usually get), and then I found "boba" (which I have seen but tend to miss) and "pleb" (which I don't think I would have gotten despite having gotten "plebe").  Oh well, trying random letters works out sometimes! I am going to try for a solo QB today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 25, 2021, 07:52:43 AM
Weird about LB. I got UNRAZED-DIVORCES.

Found a word today that eats up a lot of letters but leaves weird ones behind, so maybe I'll get a 2fer early. Or flail along all day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 25, 2021, 08:59:04 AM
Well, maybe I'll find out what the official solution was at some point.  I had CREDENZAS-SURVIVOR, which seemed like a good candidate for it.  I'll try today's here in a minute.  I hope you can get that 2fer, ciao_yall. 

Husband's android app is acting wonky for the bee today, starting him at 227 points and keeping all the words from yesterday, no matter that he killed and restarted the app several times and even rebooted his phone.  Even weirder is that he did enter the final words for QB yesterday as I came across them, so why not start at 241? Maybe something's up with the tech today.

ETA: Well, I got lucky and found a LB 2fer on my first try! Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 25, 2021, 09:11:51 AM
SB tech was fine this morning. ab_grp, hope the tech problems have been resolved.

Made it to above genius earlier today. Is there a second pangram?

I'm also seeing wrap and pseudonym for LB.

boba was a new word for me. I got pleb and then plebe. I also know to look for bonbon and booboo.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 25, 2021, 09:32:22 AM
My answer for yesterday's LB was DIVORCES-SUZERAIN.  Last I checked, the answers for the other day were still up.  I'm curious as to what the "official" answers were!  Apparently, once again, there are at least three possible solutions, as ab_grp and ciao_yall found different pairs.  It's fun to see what others came up with!

Yesterday on SB, I missed baobab (annoying, as I usually get this!), nabob, bola, and boba.

I am working on today's SB--I've gotten a bit beyond genius--and found a 2-fer for LB.  Sudokus are finished.  Now on to the crossword!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 25, 2021, 09:38:38 AM
Yes, it will be interesting to see what the official solution was, given our three different ones! I had originally started with ZODIAC(S), which I thought might be a good contender, but I couldn't get anywhere with the remaining letters and same side issue.

I still have about 20 points to go for Alpha Bee and also hope that whatever's going on with husband's app gets resolved so we don't have to keep track of two different sets of check point numbers! I only found one pangram so far, but there could be others.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 25, 2021, 10:31:39 AM
Found a really weird 2-fer today.

Yesterday I also found DENIZEN, UNCONVINCED, UNRAZORED, VIZORED, SCRIVENER, AZURE, NERVOUS, EVIDENCE...

SB is still at "amazing" but should get to "genius" soon.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 25, 2021, 02:59:45 PM
Congrats on the 2fer, ciao_yall!

I got up to 229 points in the bee, so Alpha, but I am stymied now.  Husband and I compared, and he couldn't add any to my list, so I guess I could still get QB, but I doubt it at this point.   I've spent all day trying to figure out what's making my computer freeze and have to be rebooted constantly, trying and failing to install updates, etc.  Blergh.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 25, 2021, 03:02:58 PM
They're all words we've seen in previous puzzles or ones we know. Let me know if you'd like a hint.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 25, 2021, 04:28:52 PM
Made genius on SB, so I'm out of steam on that one. Went online and there were a few short words I had overlooked but we good now. QB is a bit anticlimactic so if it happens, fine.

Still no news on yesterday's official LB solutions. Today, it's mostly been the "G" that I can't do much with though, as mentioned earlier, I did get a weird 2fer.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 26, 2021, 05:07:48 AM
It's a difficult one today. If I make it to amazing, I'd consider that to be a success.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 26, 2021, 07:24:11 AM
Thanks for the hint offer! My computer was going through 12 hours of testing, still no answers as to why it keeps freezing.  Looks like I just missed "midair".  Oh well.  Doing okay today so far, but haven't had coffee or done crosswords and didn't sleep too well.  Probably more computer problem solving (or not) today.

At least I did get the official LB solution yesterday, BODEGA-ANTIQUITY.  I poked around on social media and didn't see anything about the solution from 2 days ago, but I might look again because that is a little odd that no one else appeared to mention it.

Good morning and happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 26, 2021, 08:00:18 AM
Yesterday's LB - I got DAGNAB-BOUTIQUEY. Told you it was a strange one. Lots of Q words - ANTIQUE (and variations) BOUTIQUE, QUOTIDIAN. The hard one was the darn G.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 26, 2021, 08:22:49 AM
That is an interesting 2fer, ciao_yall! I was lucky to see ANTIQUITY and then had ODGBE, and BODEGA popped right out.  Haven't tried today's yet, or the sudokus.

On the bee front, I got to a bit above Alpha (160, currently), so if I can help anyone, please let me know the best way to do so.  I immediately saw a pangram that it didn't take, but I did get another one.  There are actually a few words that they don't accept that I think should be in there.  Not sure if I'll get to QB, but it's early, so who knows.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 26, 2021, 08:28:01 AM
Yeah, I think I have only heard the word DAGNAB maybe 2 or 3 times in my life. I was playing with the LB, got irritated, said dagnab it and then wondered if it was a word.

Today's is plugging along.

SB wouldn't take POPTOP.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 26, 2021, 08:55:22 AM
SB wouldn't accept pegleg or egyptology--I know, I know that it's a proper noun, but a solid pangram all the same. Just above genius, so that's probably it for today. Crosswords, vertex, and sudokus are done.

I try pegleg whenever I see the letters, but am always rejected.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 26, 2021, 08:59:49 AM
I am also at Alpha on SB today.  Not sure if I'll make QB, but I'll keep coming back to it as the day goes on.  I didn't get much beyond genius yesterday.  (Gamma Bee?)

As for LB, I got the "official" solution yesterday BODEGA-ANTIQUITY.  I had also found BOUTIQUEY (and was surprised that it was accepted), but couldn’t find anything to go with it—so congratulations on DAGNAB, ciao_yall!  I didn't see that.

After a little hair-tearing, I found a solution for today's LB.  Now I can get on with my day!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 26, 2021, 09:07:47 AM
SB wouldn't accept pegleg or egyptology--I know, I know that it's a proper noun, but a solid pangram all the same. Just above genius, so that's probably it for today. Crosswords, vertex, and sudokus are done.

I try pegleg whenever I see the letters, but am always rejected.

Yep, that was the pangram I tried (several times, just in case).  I was sure that was it.  Is it only a proper noun? It's a study of something... if they accept geology, they should accept that as well, I think.  I also tried pegleg and poptop.

Congrats on the 2fer, cathwen! I have a moderate contender but don't think it's a winner, so I'll keep at it.  And congrats on Alpha Bee, and good luck going for QB!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 26, 2021, 11:10:44 AM
We finally gave up and compared after each of us had gotten to Alpha Bee.  We were each missing pretty easy words and had a couple points remaining to QB.  Had to look at the answers.  It's a word we have missed in the past, not super common.  Close!

At least I got the medium sudoku done without errors in just under 13 minutes, which is my new record! Onto the hard one and then back to LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 26, 2021, 11:16:57 AM
Congrats on the Alpha Bee, ab_grp!

Got a painless two-fer on LB. Still stuck at almost Alpha.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 26, 2021, 02:39:52 PM
Thanks, Langue_doc! Congrats on your 2fer.  I just found one myself, but it didn't come as easily as yesterday's.  Anyway, still a victory.  Good luck on the bee!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 26, 2021, 03:36:16 PM
Genius, 2fer.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 27, 2021, 08:07:03 AM
Morning! Where is everyone?

LB - I got the official solution SKIRMISH-HANDFUL. Anyone else?

Off to today's puzzles.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 27, 2021, 08:09:47 AM
Yesterday's SB: missed epee and teepee--dang! Also missed lollop--don't think I would have found it.

Today, just squeaked to genius after much teeth gnashing.

LB: I have the official solution. Found a nice long word today, but can't get the remaining letters to form a word.

Happy solving, all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 27, 2021, 08:33:20 AM
Good morning!

Congrats on your 2fer and genius yesterday, ciao_yall.  I also got SKIRMISH-HANDFUL.  Got skirmish first and finally figured out how to use the remaining letters.

We also missed lollop yesterday on the bee, Langue_doc! Argh.  I had just mentioned lollypop, which it didn't take, but I forgot about lollop.  That was the only word we missed.  Glad to see topology in there since they never take boolean, but no polytope apparently.  And congrats on your 2fer!

For today's bee, I am just shy of Alpha at 114 pts so hope to get there but am currently stumped.  I'll go take a look at today's LB letters and try some sudoku and see if that helps loosen my brain.

Have fun solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 27, 2021, 09:37:04 AM
Hello, everyone.  I also got SKIRMISH-HANDFUL for LB yesterday.  I got a 2-fer today, too. 

I also missed lollpop yesterday as well as épée.  I also missed glop and gloppy!  And that after getting gloop, gloopy, goop, and goopy.

Today I'm just a tad beyond genius at 99 points.  I don't see getting much beyond that today, as like Langue_doc, I have also been gnashing my teeth just to get that far.  But apparently there are 10 more words and 34 more points in there somewhere! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 27, 2021, 09:50:12 AM
cathwen you are a natural!

I have a 2fer B4SS, a few 3fers and a couple of words that really eat up a lot of letters but leave oddball letters. That ED on the same side closes up a lot of avenues!

SB: Stuck at "great."

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 27, 2021, 10:52:31 AM
Congrats, cathwen! You are a natural! And I think I had missed gloop yesterday, although I had gloopy.  That's one that husband donated from his list.  I have to remember to look back at what I already have.  Argh.

We finally compared, as I had gotten to Alpha, at least.  I was missing 12 points, husband donated one word, and we had to look one up that we probably should have gotten given another in our list.  Argh again! Tough day today.

Got medium sudoku done but haven't tried the hard one yet.  I have a contender for LB but am not sure it will work so will go back to that as well.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 27, 2021, 01:18:45 PM
cathwen you are a natural!

 That ED on the same side closes up a lot of avenues!



Agree with both of the above.

Finally got a two-fer; Alpha bee on SB.

Good luck on LB ab_grp and ciao_yall.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 27, 2021, 02:54:38 PM
At "genius" which is usually as far as I go.

LB - lots of 3fers and B4SS but just not getting that *click."
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 27, 2021, 03:12:02 PM
At "genius" which is usually as far as I go.


I used to be quite content with genius. Then I found this thread. Oh, well...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 28, 2021, 07:46:46 AM
LB yesterday - I found BAND and WIDTH but somehow never made the connection to put them together to get BANDWIDTH-HACKER. Argh. How did everyone else do?

SB and LB for today await, along with teaching 2 classes and a board meeting.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 28, 2021, 08:26:38 AM
Good day!

I didn't come up with anything close for LB yesterday.  I thought CHICKENWIRE might work because it only left DBAT, but I couldn't make it work starting with E or ending with C.  Oh dang I just realized I did have WHACKER.  Maybe if I hadn't had the W in that group I might have seen BANDWIDTH in the remaining letters.  We'll see what today brings.

The bee is a long one again today.  I'm at a bit over genius (213) but still a ways to go to Alpha, let alone QB.  I found some good words, and there's a bunch of bookkeeping, but I am stuck for now. There are a few compound words and others that I would like it to accept.  Yesterday we missed amebae! Argh.  We had ameba.  Hate that.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 28, 2021, 09:16:16 AM
ab_grp, great word! Early on I found WHITENER and BETWICH, but needed the ED to make 2fers out of them.

Already found a weird 3fer.

SB - at amazing. Lots of gerunds. "Bookeeping." Yeah.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 28, 2021, 10:11:27 AM
Afternoon!

Got to genius on SB, but don't think I'm going to find more words. Yesterday, I missed begem, yegg, and amebae. I should have found the last one though.

LB: the official solution. Found some three-fers today, but no two-fer so far.

Crosswords and sudokus were done last night; vertex also completed.

Happy solving and two-fers, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 28, 2021, 10:17:28 AM
I got BANDWIDTH-HACKER yesterday and found a 2-fer today.  But oh my, the SB!  It is killing me.  I'm stuck at great.  Ab_grp and Langue_doc, congratulations on making genius!  And ciao_yall, congrats on amazing. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 28, 2021, 10:35:49 AM
Now I have managed to just cross over the threshold to Alpha (at 248 pts).  Yikes, not sure what could be remaining at this point, but maybe I will find some more.  I've run across two pangrams so far, by the way.  Good luck on it. 

Still no real luck on LB.  Congrats on the 2fer yesterday Langue_doc! And congrats on your 2fers yesterday and today, cathwen!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 28, 2021, 12:46:04 PM
Too bad LB won't take swear words or I'd have a 2fer.

cathwen - I would love to watch you do LB because you crush it every day. How does your brain work so fast? What is your strategy?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 28, 2021, 01:48:15 PM
ab_grp, thanks for the information about the second pangram. SB didn't accept candida which I didn't think was a proper noun. It's a wearisome one today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 28, 2021, 02:00:21 PM
You're welcome! I'm glad if the second pangram info helped.  I am really bugged about a few words not being accepted.  We eventually gave up after we both got to Alpha and compared and had a couple remaining points.  Naturally, the remaining word is one we probably could have gotten if we had remembered it, given what we had already.  Argh again.  Although the bookkeeping part was tedious today, at least there were a fair number of interesting words mixed in, unlike the challenge from last week.

Ciao_yall, I hear you on the swear words.  I keep hoping and trying, but no.  I thought I had a good contender today, but it wouldn't accept the word I made out of the remaining letters.  I guess it is considered a proper noun, so just like the cussing it is not acceptable.  Boo.

But I did set a new record for myself on hard sudoku at ~ 20 mins with no errors.  I guess it was a pretty easy one!

Hopefully I'll have time to get back to LB after my call.  Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 28, 2021, 02:45:15 PM
Just made it to genius, but what a struggle.  I can't imagine what's left, but apparently the maximum score is 273.  I only found one pangram. Ab_grp, congratulations on Alpha!  Wow!  I thought this was a very difficult one.

Ciao_yall, I don’t know why I’ve been getting LB so consistently.  I just play around with words, but then everyone does that.  You all are much better at SB than I am. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 28, 2021, 03:51:21 PM
Got a 2fer. Also would have had another one but it said it wasn't a word, though another solution had a word in the same theme. So, I dunno. And lots of B4SS solutions.

Yes, also crabby about "candida"
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 28, 2021, 04:18:11 PM
Cathwen, I really think a lot of my bee success comes from having played it every day for months and always looking up any words we miss.  Sure, a good vocabulary helps or a sense of what letter patterns are likely or not, but so many of these words are pretty esoteric.  And there's the getting bitten by not remembering particular prefixes or suffixes (especially -ee, -i, -ae for me) that makes those of us who are very stubborn vow never again.   Of course I do forget again.  Some days are just easier than others for whatever reason.  Or at some point you might happen upon a pattern you hadn't considered.  Believe it or not, what I would consider to be a primary pattern in today's puzzle that was in MANY words is one that my dear husband did not happen upon for quite a long while.  Obviously, getting to genius was tough until he did...  Anyway, you've made QB already, so clearly you have a pretty good knack for it.  Maybe you just need to become more obsessed.  ;-) Today there were a lot of words and word groups that I just remembered from previous puzzles.

Congrats on your 2fer, ciao_yall! And nearly a second 2fer!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 28, 2021, 06:28:24 PM
Cathwen, I really think a lot of my bee success comes from having played it every day for months and always looking up any words we miss.  Sure, a good vocabulary helps or a sense of what letter patterns are likely or not, but so many of these words are pretty esoteric.  And there's the getting bitten by not remembering particular prefixes or suffixes (especially -ee, -i, -ae for me) that makes those of us who are very stubborn vow never again.   Of course I do forget again.  Some days are just easier than others for whatever reason.  Or at some point you might happen upon a pattern you hadn't considered.  Believe it or not, what I would consider to be a primary pattern in today's puzzle that was in MANY words is one that my dear husband did not happen upon for quite a long while.  Obviously, getting to genius was tough until he did...  Anyway, you've made QB already, so clearly you have a pretty good knack for it.  Maybe you just need to become more obsessed.  ;-) Today there were a lot of words and word groups that I just remembered from previous puzzles.

Congrats on your 2fer, ciao_yall! And nearly a second 2fer!

I too find solutions because I'm keeping track of words that I've seen in previous puzzles. There were a few words in today's puzzle that I knew to look for because I'd seen them recently. I knew that candida wouldn't be accepted based on past experience, but I try these words anyway just out of orneriness. I also pay attention to suffixes. Today, for example I looked for three-letter verbs and also for verbs that ended in -e so that I could enter the participial forms. -ic, -ical, -al, -ion, etc are other possibilities. Very often, the letters have to be aligned in a certain configuration to see words which was how I found the second pangram a few minutes ago. I also miss words that I'd seen before as was the case with epee and teepee in a recent puzzle.

Cathwen, I hope this helps.

Made it to Alpha Bee. Some of the words were quite obvious, not at the beginning though, but much later in the day. Got a two-fer in LB, both words we all know.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 28, 2021, 07:36:53 PM
Yeah on Alpha, Langue_doc! Congrats!! I also felt like some of the words took a while to see today, even ones that are normally more obvious.  I think that bookkeeping patterns that show up a lot in a particular bee day (plus lots of points to attain) can make it hard to see other, more common words or to rearrange letters into unusual patterns that are also common words.  It's like they block me from seeing normal words.  The tip you gave about suffixes is a really good one.  There are puzzles in which you can't make a four-letter word, for example, but you can make three letters + an ending.  Or two letters + an ending.  So the base bunch of letters (root?) is not acceptable, but some form of it with a suffix is.  But I would also keep trying words that were previously not accepted, given that the "dictionary" or word list they use seems not to be static and that they add and delete acceptable words at times, especially if people complain.  Quantity of complaints, or quality of arguments, I don't know. 

I do feel like LB has kind of similar underlying skills in some ways.  But it's more like if you want a 2fer in LB you have to find the pangram (not the actual term) as the solution, whereas in the bee you could probably (on most days) not get the pangram and still score a good deal of points, at least enough for genius.   We have had several LB days on which there was purportedly only really one solution.  There are others, of course, on which multiple solutions work.  I feel as though they are related skills, but one is more exhaustive, and one is more sophisticated? That is not the right description, but maybe someone knows what I'm getting at.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 29, 2021, 07:55:24 AM
SB - I sometimes remember words from previous puzzles but I don't keep track. When I run out of steam (either Amazing or just into Genius) I might go to the Comments board where they jog a few memories. Usually it's words I should have gotten but overlooked or didn't cross my mind while moving letters around (yesterday... canning, cringing, cardigan). They do a good job with hints that start off subtle and build up a little steam.

Arcadia and Arcadian? Those aren't proper nouns? Really?

LB - I got UNTOWARD-DISHPAN, so nowhere near the official solution. Not sure I would have guessed either word. First got UNTOWARD-DIPSH*T.  Also got UPWARDS-SHINTO but it wouldn't take SHINTO even though it took that Christian gospel that started with a K that I can't recall from a few weeks ago.  I really wanted to do something with DINOSAUR but was not to be.

For strategy, I start looking for combos that eat up a lot of letters. I take screenshots of 3fers and B4SS solutions so I can stare at them between fooling with letters.

The Comments board goes right into giving away the solution so I don't like to go there. Wish they would ease into it a bit.

Anyway, on to today's!

ETA:

SB: In the long sludge of Amazing, slowly finding odd words, waiting for it to flash GENIUS!

LB: Got some 3fers and a 2fer B4SS solution so think I'm going to finish my coffee and take a shower.

Will poke around during the day and see if anything shakes loose.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 29, 2021, 09:01:49 AM
I also tried UPWARDS-SHINTO yesterday, ciao_yall.  And I like your first solution, even if they didn't take it! I would never, ever have come up with the official solution.  I've been taking the approach of writing down the "hard" letters on the side of my notepad and trying to work with them first, noting combos of letters that might work in a solution.  At least writing my attempts down has helped me get my handwriting back into some sort of legible form.

Also was surprised about arcadia and arcadian in the bee yesterday.  I really wanted raindancing, dragracing, arancini, or radicand to work!! Husband donated cadging to my list, and we both missed indicia despite finally remembering indica.  Argggghhh.

Today I'm at 169 points, so a bit shy of Alpha (about 178?) but am hoping to get there at some point.

Good luck on today's puzzles, everyone!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 29, 2021, 10:17:08 AM
I remembered arcadia and arcadian from previous puzzles so didn't even bother to see if they were proper nouns or not. I thought that I'd entered narc, but sometimes the words don't get through when I type them on the kindle. I should have found cigar and cirri--I recall seeing the latter not too long ago.

Spoiler alert: made it to genius with a slinky underwear word.

As for LB, puritans and shadow, much less esoteric than the official solution. But three vowels on the same side--aarrgh!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 29, 2021, 10:31:37 AM
Hurrah, Langue_doc! I had to look through my list to figure out what slinky underwear you were talking about.  I think that is the word I got just before I got the word that finally got me to Alpha Bee.  I like your LB 2fer better than the official solution from yesterday. 

Since we both got to Alpha, we compared and got to QB.  I had missed two words that I am pretty sure I have missed before, naturally.

I have a mediocre contender so far in LB and have to go back to the medium sudoku, which I managed to screw up and had to delete some entries.  Had a bagel, will try again.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 29, 2021, 12:12:07 PM
Several solutions for yesterday's LB!  I got PATDOWN-NOURISH.  I found a 2-fer for today's as well. 

I missed a number of words on yesterday’s SB that I should’ve gotten.  And thanks for the suggestions, too, everyone.  I made genius today, plus a few points, and will get back to that later.  I did find the pangram, which jumped out at me right away.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 29, 2021, 01:00:34 PM
2fer and genius.

So diem was carpe'd or however you say it.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 29, 2021, 03:53:44 PM
Congrats on your unique 2fer yesterday, cathwen, and your 2fer and genius + today!

And yay for ciao_yall and the carpe'd diem of genius and 2fer.

I am still trying the LB, but I'm still slowly working on problem solving my computer.  Ughhh. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 29, 2021, 04:37:28 PM
If only SB would accept huguenot, I'd have15 more points.

Found an interesting two_fer, interesting because two separate words are possible from the remaining letters.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 29, 2021, 04:48:44 PM
I tried huguenot, too.  No luck.  Congrats on your 2fer 2fer! That's neat.

I will come back to LB briefly later but think I will probably not find a 2fer today.  I will be interested to hear what you all found!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 30, 2021, 06:09:14 AM
Congrats on the QB, ab_grp.

I missed ghetto, which I should have found as I was looking for gh-initial words, tent and tote both of which I had entered but apparently didn't get through, and tenon and nonet.

Made it to genius today, but no pangram yet, alas.

LB words were memorials and sticky/stocky.

ETA Woohoo, just got a two- fer on my first attempt. Both common words, the second, one that we academics use on a regular basis.

Happy solving, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 30, 2021, 08:53:01 AM
LB - I got ALTIMETERS-STOCKY

This morning, SB is at "genius" but no panagram. LB - lots of 3fers but no 2fer yet.

I did the Saturday mini in 38 seconds which I think is a record for me. I usually try to get the regular minis in under 30 seconds but Saturday is it's own thing.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 30, 2021, 09:25:46 AM
I somehow managed to get to QB before finishing my coffee today.  I think that's a first! It was weird... I was at Alpha + and husband mentioned that he hadn't found the pangram yet, and I realized I hadn't either.  That plus a couple four-letter words got me to the QB.  So good luck everyone.  Nothing super tricky in there, but there was at least one word that I have missed in the past.

Congrats on your 2fers yesterday and today, Langue_doc! And for yours yesterday, ciao_yall.  I was nowhere near the official solution.  Again with some weird words there.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 30, 2021, 09:55:19 AM
Eight past genius this morning, but haven't found the pangram yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: reener06 on January 30, 2021, 12:13:33 PM
Got to Genius and then finally got the pangram. Still 3 or 4 words short of QB and may just give up.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 30, 2021, 02:00:35 PM
2fer in LB,

Well into genius in SB and still no panagram. Heading to the comments board to see if anything shakes loose with their hints. I like them because they start off slow instead of giving too much away too soon.

ETA: Okay, got the panagram. 2 odd words I can't deduce, even from the hints from the Comments board. QB is sooooo overrated.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 30, 2021, 02:30:16 PM
I guess I must have just gotten lucky with the word list today to get to QB.  Still wishing everyone luck!

No real progress on LB, yet, and I still have to try to finish today's hard sudoku before tomorrow's come out.  Too many things on the non-puzzle to-do list today.

ETA: Meant to say congrats on the LB 2fer, ciao_yall!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 30, 2021, 02:50:50 PM
I guess I must have just gotten lucky with the word list today to get to QB. Still wishing everyone luck!

No real progress on LB, yet, and I still have to try to finish today's hard sudoku before tomorrow's come out.  Too many things on the non-puzzle to-do list today.

ETA: Meant to say congrats on the LB 2fer, ciao_yall!

There is no luck, only talent.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 30, 2021, 04:48:51 PM
I guess I must have just gotten lucky with the word list today to get to QB. Still wishing everyone luck!

No real progress on LB, yet, and I still have to try to finish today's hard sudoku before tomorrow's come out.  Too many things on the non-puzzle to-do list today.

ETA: Meant to say congrats on the LB 2fer, ciao_yall!

There is no luck, only talent.

Thanks, but I will trade you some bee talent for some LB talent!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 30, 2021, 04:52:18 PM
I can PM you a hint, ab_grp, if you'd like one.

QB today, on the crossword now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 31, 2021, 08:58:20 AM
Sorry I didn't see your offer of a hint, Langue_doc! And congrats on QB!  Crossword wasn't too bad, though from the comments it didn't seem as though it was too well received.  There were a couple iffy clues/answers, in my opinion.

I managed to get to QB before we finished our coffee again.  I'm sure that streak will not continue.  But, hopefully it leaves more time for LB today.  And I have to do all the sudokus.  Yesterday was too busy.   
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 31, 2021, 09:25:41 AM
SB - yesterday I missed CICHLID which is apparently a type of fish. Well, now I know.

LB - my words were ABJURES-STALAGMITE. Not the official solution but I did find JUGULAR and words similar to RESUBMIT (REMIT, REBATES, REGULARITIES, SUBMERGE, SUBJUGATE, SEBUM.)

Hard copy papers today so won't get to the electronic versions for a while.

Happy Sunday! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 31, 2021, 09:38:28 AM
Easy Bee today!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 31, 2021, 10:45:25 AM
Congrats, Parasaurolophus! I actually thought yesterday's was easier.  Today's was, but it also had a bunch of what I would consider bee or crossword words. 

Ciao_yall, cichlid is the one my husband missed yesterday, too.  Your LB 2fer from yesterday seems more sophisticated than the official solution.

At least I managed to get a 2fer today! If I hadn't messed up the medium sudoku, today would have been a victorious puzzle day.  Oh well, I'll see how hard the hard one is later.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on January 31, 2021, 11:53:01 AM
Genius, 2fer, and husband hasn't even started the Sunday crossword puzzle yet.

Time for a post-brunch nap.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 31, 2021, 01:06:47 PM
Greetings, all. Decided to take a nap after a spurt of activity in the morning.

SB yesterday: got hilled because I was trying out the past tense suffix with all the words--didn't even think that hilled would be accepted. I remembered cichlid from an earlier puzzle--had to try out several spellings before finding the right one.

Today's SB was more difficult. Although I found the pangram early on, it took me a while to get to genius. I'm probably around Alpha Bee, and have given up for now. SB wouldn't take brolly or boro, the latter a perfectly good NYC word. Surprising that the NYT doesn't allow it--not surprising after all as the NYT publishes local news only after seeing it on the Post and the Daily News.

LB yesterday--jugular just jumped out at me, and then resubmit. I'd been using the latter word last week, asking students to resubmit assignments that weren't properly formatted or didn't follow the directions. I'm not sure if I'll get to today's as I'm behind with course work.

The crossword dragged, but I completed it, the mini, and the sudokus last night.

Congrats on the QB ab_grp, and the two-fers ab_grp and ciao_yall.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on January 31, 2021, 02:40:32 PM
Queen for a day!  For the second time ever, I got to QB today.  Congratulations to ab_grp and Langue_doc for making QB yesterday.  I made Beta Bee yesterday and then gave up.

My LB yesterday was different from the official solution--I got materials-subjugate.  I did see jugular, but did not figure out resubmit.  I got a 2-fer today, too. 

I though the hard sudoku was more difficult than usual today.  I got it eventually, but it took a good while.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on January 31, 2021, 04:12:31 PM
Lots of accomplishments and naps all around!

Congratulations on 2fers, ciao_yall and cathwen.  Way to go on QB, cathwen! Langue_doc, congrats on Alpha (or more...)! Congrats on genius to ciao_yall, and I hope you enjoyed the crossword when your husband finished his role in it.

Regarding "hilled", I have learned the hard way to pretty much try every available prefix and suffix with ever possible root, though I forget at times. 

Oh yeah! I keep forgetting to mention... seems like Android users may now have some other puzzles (vertex, tiles, sudoku, but not LB) in their apps? Husband does.  Not me on my iOS, unfortunately, though I would only do LB on there.    I also noticed on the website puzzle page where I do LB and sudoku that there is a monthly bonus crossword? I don't think I've ever noticed that before.  I will give that one a try tomorrow to see what kind of difficulty level it's aimed at.  I don't see that one in my app, either.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 31, 2021, 04:33:47 PM
ab_grp, the monthly bonus crossword is out. I usually do the puzzles on my Kindle. I can also access them on my Android phone. I'll have to get back to you later about the monthly bonus on my droid and your other questions/comments.

Crosswords are calling.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on January 31, 2021, 08:22:30 PM


Oh yeah! I keep forgetting to mention... seems like Android users may now have some other puzzles (vertex, tiles, sudoku, but not LB) in their apps? Husband does.  Not me on my iOS, unfortunately, though I would only do LB on there.    I also noticed on the website puzzle page where I do LB and sudoku that there is a monthly bonus crossword? I don't think I've ever noticed that before.  I will give that one a try tomorrow to see what kind of difficulty level it's aimed at.  I don't see that one in my app, either.

I've had access to the crosswords, SB, LB, vertex, tiles, and sudoku for over a year (much longer than that) now on my android phone. The monthly crossword however doesn't show up on the android, but on the kindle, and I'm assuming on the computers as well. I've been doing the monthly as soon as it's released. Not sure if you can access the old monthlies but it wouldn't hurt to contact the Games person at NYT.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 01, 2021, 08:20:47 AM
I have all of the puzzles you listed on my Android phone. I do the Mini, SB and LB. Occasionally Tiles. My screen is a bit small for the Crossword but I sometimes do the Friday or Saturday. My regular crossword is the WSJ.

LB yesterday - FRIGHTEN-NOVELS. Close to the official solution - I even got VISION at one point.

On to today's... happy solving, everyone!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 01, 2021, 08:35:37 AM
Interesting that the different apps have different games! I've checked for an update, but it doesn't look as though there is one, so I don't know when they might appear in my app.  And I had no idea there was a monthly crossword.  I will give it a try a bit later.

Congrats on your 2fer yesterday, ciao_yall.  I had FRIGHT-TELEVISION, which I guess was the official one.

Quick crossword today, long bee.  Whew.  I am at 313 with 2 pangrams, so about 83%, long way to go yet even to Alpha.

I don't usually read the crossword blog anymore, but I didn't recognize the constructor's name so read the constructor notes.  Pretty impressive! The youngest female constructor to date, a high school student from my old neck of the woods.  Her debut NYT puzzle, and she just started constructing them in August!! Wow.  I also see they have some new games editorial group.

Good luck and have fun, all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 01, 2021, 10:14:11 AM
Made it to genius. That's it for today's SB. Haven't looked at LB. Crosswords are done though, including the monthly bonus.

Happy solving, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 01, 2021, 10:27:27 AM
Oof, long one today. I'm about halfway there so far.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 01, 2021, 10:28:42 AM
Still not at Alpha, though I've gained a few points (331).  Husband reports existence of a third pangram, which I have not yet found.  Congrats on genius, Langue_doc!

I tried the monthly bonus crossword.  I would maybe put it at a Wednesday or Thursday level?

Some weak contenders in LB, but that's it so far.

ETA:  Good luck, Parasaurolophus! It is really long.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 01, 2021, 11:38:31 AM
I almost gave up as I had found three pangrams before reaching genius. It was mostly playing around with the endings. I won't be grappling with it till the bitter end.

As for the monthly bonus, agree that it's at a midweek difficulty level. It seems that the crosswords are getting easier, but that could be my imagination.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 01, 2021, 11:49:15 AM
I just took another look at the bee because I really wanted to get to Alpha, and I finally figured out the third pangram and got past the Alpha threshold! At least now I feel like maybe it's okay to compare lists. But I need to look back at what I have now that the pangram has suggested something to me.  And I kind of don't want to quit at this point! Although I just realized I still have something like 30 points left to QB somehow.  Geez louise.  Maybe giving up would be a kind thing to do for myself.

As for the crossword difficulty, I am slowly making my way through the archives and would definitely say that it seems that the older ones are harder.  I'm back in 1999 right now, and though I can usually do any of the days of the week with little trouble these days, Saturdays (and a lot of Fridays) just seemed a lot tougher back then.  I guess some of it could be currency of pop culture or political references? But I think it's more than that. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 01, 2021, 02:01:38 PM
Ab_grp, congratulations for making Alpha!  That is impressive! 

I finally made genius on today's SB, and am now at Beta, but I don’t think I have the wherewithal to persist further.  I found two pangrams, and now that you’ve mentioned a third, I may pop in and out during the day to see if it occurs to me. 

On yesterday’s LB, I got the same as ciao_yall:  FRIGHTEN-NOVELS. 

Today, I got a very strange 2-fer, one of which was overspecialized, and another slangy—even thought LB accepted them—so I looked again and found two more normal words.  I’ll be curious to see what others got.

On to the crossword! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 01, 2021, 03:23:04 PM
Thanks, cathwen, and congrats on your 2fers and Beta! We eventually gave up, which is good because I don't think we would have found the final three words.  I hope you find the third pangram if you take another look or two at it.

Still no real luck with LB, but I got other stuff done so will go try on that again.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 01, 2021, 06:10:39 PM
Trailing back here - SB is still at Amazing, and LB still at 3fers and B4SS. Good candidate words that eat up a lot of letters but don't match up.

Of course, as soon as I post I'll probably find the solution...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: johnr on February 01, 2021, 08:57:57 PM
Excuse my semi-laziness.  What is the Alpha and Beta level to which you all refer?  In my defense, I did a search for the term here and found its use, but not its definition.  I'm semi-lazy because I did not plow through all 60 something pages of posts on this thread. I gather that it is something higher than genius, but less than QB? 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 02, 2021, 06:23:25 AM
Greetings, johnr!  To explain the terms:  To get to Genius, you have to get 70% of all possible words.  So Beta Bee is 80%, and Alpha Bee is 90%.  These last two terms were invented in the group (I can’t remember offhand who first proposed them).  How to find the maximum number of words?  I use nytbee.com.  There may be other sources as well.

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 02, 2021, 06:30:10 AM


As for the crossword difficulty, I am slowly making my way through the archives and would definitely say that it seems that the older ones are harder.  I'm back in 1999 right now, and though I can usually do any of the days of the week with little trouble these days, Saturdays (and a lot of Fridays) just seemed a lot tougher back then.  I guess some of it could be currency of pop culture or political references? But I think it's more than that.

I distinctly remember being often stumped on Fridays in the good old days before the online editions, when I had to do them manually (pencil on paper). I don't think I spent much time on the Saturday ones, but would check the answers the following day. They were definitely more difficult.

Got to genius on SB. As for yesterday, there were a couple of words that I wouldn't have guessed, but the frustrating part was that a handful of words that I typed on the kindle are missing from my solution--analog, yogi, oily, and a couple more. I don't think I'm going to be spending much more time on today's puzzle.

LB--I wouldn't have thought of the first word in the official solution--I tried rejoin, joint, enjoin, and so on, and had to give up on getting the rest of the letters to form a single word.

Crosswords and sudokus are done, as is vertex.

Happy solving, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 02, 2021, 07:56:55 AM
Morning!

I got INCUBATOR yesterday so kudos to all of those who figured out EMOJI! My brain couldn't think of any words that ended with "I" so I stayed on the "R" side of that word in trying to find solutions.

On to today's...

ETA: Already got a 2fer with one of my first words. So maybe there are a few more 2fers in there?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 02, 2021, 09:21:08 AM
Welcome, Johnr! The Alpha and Beta levels just give us some interim benchmark goals between Genius and QB, as cathwen described.

I'm at 148 on the bee today (~76%), so a ways to go.  No pangram yet, though husband found one.  It would help to have those points! We missed yogini, longan, and onlay yesterday.  Ugh.  Seems to be picky again today about which words to accept with particular endings.

I never would have gotten the official LB solution yesterday, especially the J word, so echoing kudos to those who have.

Congrats on your 2fer today, ciao_yall! I'll give it a try in a bit, but my computer is doing its random freezing business again. 

Congrats on genius, Langue_doc!

Happy solving, and good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: johnr on February 02, 2021, 10:07:06 AM
Greetings, johnr!  To explain the terms:  To get to Genius, you have to get 70% of all possible words.  So Beta Bee is 80%, and Alpha Bee is 90%.  These last two terms were invented in the group (I can’t remember offhand who first proposed them).  How to find the maximum number of words?  I use nytbee.com.  There may be other sources as well.

Happy solving!

Thanks!  I did not know that Genius = 70% of words! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 02, 2021, 11:12:05 AM
Congratulations on genius, Langue_doc, and congrats also to ciao_yall for the 2-fer on LB!

I'm still stuck at Amazing on SB today (Delta Bee?), with only a few points to go until genius, so I'll keep at it.  I have not found the pangram yet.

I found a 2-fer fairly quickly on LB, and I wonder if it's the same as ciao_yall's!  Yesterday I got the official solution (EMOJI-INCUBATOR). 

Now on to the crossword, and then I must finish writing a quiz! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 02, 2021, 11:23:24 AM
Congratulations on genius, Langue_doc, and congrats also to ciao_yall for the 2-fer on LB!

I'm still stuck at Amazing on SB today (Delta Bee?), with only a few points to go until genius, so I'll keep at it.  I have not found the pangram yet.

I found a 2-fer fairly quickly on LB, and I wonder if it's the same as ciao_yall's!  Yesterday I got the official solution (EMOJI-INCUBATOR). 

Now on to the crossword, and then I must finish writing a quiz!

Maybe. I felt like cathwen when the 2fer came so fast.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 02, 2021, 11:34:08 AM
Congrats on the 2fers, ciao_yall and cathwen! I have a couple reasonable contenders, but no mates yet.

Made a little more progress on the bee, 163 pts (~83%), and still no pangram! Hope we can find it, cathwen.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 02, 2021, 12:23:36 PM
Got the two-fer.

Spoiler alert for SB. Look at your list of words and see if you can add something before or after one of them.

Haven't made much progress though. Have to update three sections of a module and do some grading.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 02, 2021, 12:49:19 PM
I'm at 150 points on SB, and still no pangram for me, either.  But at least I made genius.

I'm looking forward to seeing what you all got for LB!  Congratulations on your 2-fer, Langue_doc!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 02, 2021, 12:51:53 PM
Just came here to report that I got to Alpha and then finally got the pangram! Take heed of Langue_doc's tip.  I just happened to try it and was surprised.  I'm at ~96% now, but I think I will just give up, with medium sudoku to finish, hard to do, and LB to keep at, among other non-puzzle stuff.

Congrats on genius, cathwen! And congrats on your 2fer, Langue_doc!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 02, 2021, 03:04:28 PM
Ab_grp, same here!  I'm at Alpha and I did find the pangram.  Oddly, though, it was a word I had already tried--or thought I'd tried--before, but was rejected.  I must have mistyped it.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 02, 2021, 03:44:30 PM
Ab_grp, same here!  I'm at Alpha and I did find the pangram.  Oddly, though, it was a word I had already tried--or thought I'd tried--before, but was rejected.  I must have mistyped it.

Hooray!! It is not fun thinking you already tried something that ends up working, but congrats!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 03, 2021, 07:24:56 AM
Greetings, all!

SB--stuck at amazing, but found the pangram early. Haven't looked at yesterday's solutions yet.

LB--official solution, but only after several attempts.

Crosswords and sudokus are done.

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 03, 2021, 07:41:52 AM
Good morning!  I'm just a few points beyond genius on SB, and not sure I'll pursue it any further, as I have to get some real work done today. 

Congratulations, Langue_doc, on LB!  My solution yesterday was similar to the official one—I had CHAMPIONING-GALAXY.  Of course, the official answer, CHOMPING, is a more efficient use of letters. 

I got today's LB, after a bit of hair-pulling.  I kept wanting an R or an N.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 03, 2021, 07:57:16 AM
LB - CHOMPING-GALAXY. I found GALAXY first and after a little playing around with "ING" it came together.

SB - Thanks Langue_doc for the tip - finally found the panagram.


Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 03, 2021, 08:26:45 AM
Good morning, all!

I'm at about 79% on the bee today and found the pangram right away but am struggling at this point.  Seems like some words that are not too recent, so I guess the familiarity does help on other days.

Congrats on all the 2fers yesterday in LB.  Wow, I was not near the solutions despite having a better contender list than usual.  I kept trying to make PHALANX work in the beginning, but no luck.  Congrats on already getting a 2fer, cathwen!

Time to start sudokus...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 03, 2021, 08:27:48 AM
Just popped in to say that this is my most favoritest thread ever.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 03, 2021, 08:44:15 AM
Just popped in to say that this is my most favoritest thread ever.

Awww. You are so positive.

I just popped in to say that SB won't take PHTHALATE which is about to ruin my day.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 03, 2021, 08:53:36 AM
Just popped in to say that this is my most favoritest thread ever.

Totally agree!!

Ciao_yall, that is quite a word.  Sorry it wouldn't take it.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 03, 2021, 09:34:34 AM
2fer! Not sure if it's official but I'll keep it.

In the sludge of "Amazing" and finding odd little words I missed... but haven't tipped into "Genius" yet." Did find the panagram.

ETA: Genius!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 03, 2021, 11:04:54 AM
Hurrah on genius and a 2fer, ciao_yall!

I found a couple more words, at 152 now (84%), but still a ways to go.  Tough one! Only one contender for LB so far, but I did get the medium sudoku done.  I have to do a bunch of Duolingos (and real work) or risk slipping out of Diamond league, which would be tough to get back into.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 03, 2021, 11:19:38 AM
Good luck with your projects, ab_grp, and congratulations on scoring 152 on a difficult puzzle. I made it to genius and 138.

Congrats on the two-fer, ciao_yall.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 03, 2021, 12:57:36 PM
Thanks, Langue_doc! I hope you have good luck if you continue with the bee.  We finally gave up and compared, short of my goal, but I was totally stumped.  Husband had no words to donate, and I had to look up the answers.  We were close, but as I suspected we haven't had these letters in quite a while, so a host of words were not in my database. 

I think I have a good contender for LB but need to try to make a mate.  Still working on the hard sudoku.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 03, 2021, 01:09:47 PM
Just popped in to say that this is my most favoritest thread ever.

Totally agree!!

Ciao_yall, that is quite a word.  Sorry it wouldn't take it.

This is also my favorite thread!  It is so positive and encouraging--rejoicing in each other's successes.

I'm finding SB kind of difficult.  I have the pangram, and I have gone a little beyond genius with 140 points.  But apparently there are 180 possible points and 43 words, and my reaction is...are you kidding me?  But then, that is usually my reaction.  Now, if the Bee were accepting archaic verb forms in -eth, I'd be all set.  Ab_grp, I am impressed by your 152!

OK, back to work.  Hoping for inspiration!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 03, 2021, 03:06:44 PM
Good luck with the bee, cathwen! I also tried all the -eths I could think of and probably invented some new ones.  I am dismayed at how close we were to the remaining words, but I guess they were not in the cards today.  I definitely know the feeling of having gotten what seems like really far and exhausted so many avenues and seeing that there are so many points or words left.  Sending bee juju to you and anyone else still working at it!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 03, 2021, 03:27:35 PM
Good luck with the bee, cathwen! I also tried all the -eths I could think of and probably invented some new ones.  I am dismayed at how close we were to the remaining words, but I guess they were not in the cards today.  I definitely know the feeling of having gotten what seems like really far and exhausted so many avenues and seeing that there are so many points or words left.  Sending bee juju to you and anyone else still working at it!

Hint for LB - it accepts both JUJUBE and BEJESUS. I sooooo wanted to have solutions that included those words the other day...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 04, 2021, 05:13:11 AM
Greetings, all.

Congrats on yall's successes yesterday.

LB: found several long words yesterday, but no second word. I wouldn't have thought of coming up with a short first word as in the official solution.

SB: above genius, but not much fun. I might look for more words.

More than halfway through the crossword, and stuck on the mini. I've always completed the mini, so this is a first for me.

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 04, 2021, 07:48:02 AM
LB today was more difficult than usual, I thought.  I finally found a 2-fer, but it took a while.  Having ER on one side and ING on the other made it quite challenging.

I'm at genius on SB, but just.  I'll probably pop in and out throughout the day to see if I can scrape together any more points. 

I missed a couple of obvious compounds yesterday.  I saw eye, and had teeth, but did not put together eyeteeth! <bonks self on head>

Good luck with the mini, Langue_doc! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 04, 2021, 07:57:44 AM
LB yesterday - FELTS-SUBATOMIC. At first I found  a b4ss solution SUBATOMIC-CLEFT. But a little rearranging and boom.

SB - It took PHAT and HEPTATHLETE but not PHTHALATE? Oh well, I made genius so meh.

On to today's!

LB today was more difficult than usual, I thought.  I finally found a 2-fer, but it took a while.  Having ER on one side and ING on the other made it quite challenging.
 

And the Z and the Y? SMDH. I worship you.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 04, 2021, 08:12:45 AM
Good morning!

Got to alpha today at 122 pts (~95%) but still 8 or so points from QB. 

We missed heptathlete, despite trying hepta everything.  And telehealth, despite trying telehelp, eyehealth, etc.  Heeltap is one we've missed before and will probably miss again.  Cathwen, eyeteeth is one of those I have missed before (and will probably miss again) but got yesterday out of spite. 

I also would not have thought there would be such a short mate word in LB.  I thought umbilicals might get me somewhere, but no.  So congrats on those 2fers yesterday! And congrats to cathwen for already getting one today!

Langue_doc, I usually skate through minis but have had a couple that really confounded me for some reason.  Good luck on it.

At least I have now reinstalled Windows, so hopefully I will not have to deal with all these computer issues and delays.  Fingers crossed.

Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 04, 2021, 08:41:39 AM
SB - hit genius.

LB - Not even a 3fer yet but a few candidate words that eat up a lot of letters. The one letter that keeps hanging me up is a vowel.

Why do I adore this thread?

I enjoy everyone's nerdy energy and solving strategies.

I like being the group laggard. By the time I've hit the thread in the morning you all have given me something to strive for. I get there by the afternoon.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 04, 2021, 08:46:16 AM
You the group laggard!? Hah!  You're the one who gets the two-fer on a regular basis. As for getting on the thread late, perhaps you're in a different time zone? It's almost noon here.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 04, 2021, 09:22:00 AM
I'm in the Pacific time zone, so I'm sure that's part of it.

Still, I like to imagine us all in our jammies around the kitchen table with our coffee, all of you yelling "2fer! Genius! Alpha" while I flail around grumbling because the site won't take HELLA or PHTHALATE or they put the ING on the same side.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 04, 2021, 10:45:52 AM
Yay, I made it to QB! Barely.  Last word was not one I would have thought would be in there given others that weren't, so keep on trying whatever is the motto, I guess.

Ciao_yall, I meant to say thanks for the LB tip yesterday afternoon.  I worked on it on my laptop while Windows was doing its long thing on this computer, but I just couldn't get a solution.  And you definitely bring a lot of LB energy! It is fun being in different time zones.  But I'm not a morning person, so even if it were noon here I'd probably essentially be in the jammies mindset and needing coffee.

I have a contender for LB that I think has potential but am afraid I'm going to focus too much on it to the exclusion of other possibilities that actually lead to success.

Got medium sudoku done, will try hard and then back to LB.



Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 04, 2021, 12:08:22 PM
Wow, ab_grp, congratulations on QB!  I've made it to Alpha and am running out of ideas, so I'll be amazed if I make QB. 

Ciao_yall, laggard is the last word that comes to mind in your regard! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 04, 2021, 01:39:04 PM
While I have internet again, thanks, cathwen! Congrats on Alpha, and I wish you good luck in finding the remaining word(s).  Just keep trying combinations of stuff (as long as you feel like it, obviously!).  Wasn't a super satisfying puzzle, in my opinion. 

Now I've got three pretty good contenders in LB, sans mates.  Still struggling with hard sudoku.  Fortunately, neither need an internet connection once they get going, I guess. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 04, 2021, 01:54:56 PM
Congrats, Queen ab_grp. Congrats on the Alpha, cathwen. I'm at Alpha and am trying to make it to QB.

Yesterday--eyeteeth, which I should have found as I've seen it before and also found, but heeltap, heptathlete?? I found telemedicine as I saw the word in some documents that my insurance carrier had sent me.

Gave up on LB--B4SS issues. i--n-g, r-a-e, and y-o-u? Sounds sadistic.

I'm stuck on the crossword. The program tells me that I'm almost there, but all the squares seem to properly filled. I'll have to take another look later as I don't want to lose my streak.

ciao_yall, I like the image of us in our jammies, all of us yelling out our successes.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 04, 2021, 02:27:02 PM
Congrats on Alpha, Langue_doc! Good luck toward QB! And good luck with the crossword.  Maybe an issue with a person's name (or song name)? There are a couple in there that could be unfamiliar.  Hopefully the crosses will help you figure out the issue.  I would offer assistance but am not sure how to help.  Let me know if there is something I can do.  Sounds like probably not a technical foul, as that aspect is pretty straightforward, and it sounds like you are aware of the deal there.  It's frustrating when the error is elusive.

I agree that the b4ss BS today is something else. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 04, 2021, 03:21:39 PM
Woo-hoo!  QB at last! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 04, 2021, 03:53:57 PM
Woo-hoo!  QB at last!

HOORAY! Congratulations, cathwen! I'll be interested to hear tomorrow if the words that gave us trouble were the same.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 04, 2021, 04:50:35 PM
Got a 2fer!

Sent hints to Langue-doc and ab_grp.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 04, 2021, 04:59:46 PM
Congrats, ciao_yall! And thanks for the hint!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 04, 2021, 06:26:50 PM
Congrats, cathwen and ciao_yall, and thanks for the hints.

ab_grp, thanks for the offer to help with the crossword. I had all the squares filled, and was still getting the error message, so finally checked the puzzle. it turned out that I had typed a zero instead of 'o'. Headbang! Now I can work on SB and LB.

Woohoo! Got it. Thanks, ciao_yall. There's an alternative solution where the plural form of the second word comes first. So I have two solutions.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 05, 2021, 05:18:19 AM
Greetings all.

Genius but no pangram yet. QB yesterday.

LB--found the official solution thanks to ciao_yall's hints. Then I tried 'memorizes' as the first word and the remaining words neatly arranged themselves into 'synagogue'.

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 05, 2021, 08:03:45 AM
SB - Oh I could have made QB had I stuck with it... all words I knew, but I got all hot and heavy into LB.

LB - Also played with ORGANZA, NOSEGAY but just couldn't connect them.

Congrats to everyone on already giving me a goal for today!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 05, 2021, 08:38:04 AM
Good morning, all!

Langue_doc, I'm sorry I didn't even think of the 0 versus O issue.  It hasn't happened to me, but I've seen it in the comments numerous times.  I hope you got to keep your streak! Congrats on your QB and 2fers! And yay on genius.    Good luck with the pangram and further progress.

I got to 188 today so far (78%) with one pangram, but it's been interrupt-driven so will spend more time on it later and start on sudokus and LB.  Crossword went pretty quickly, at least.

I still didn't figure out the second word for LB but had the first one.  Oh wait, I still have the puzzle up and think I figured it out.  Yep, that was it.  Well, the first word was my first contender, but I don't think I would have gotten the second one without ciao_yall's hint, so thanks, and I'll sort of take a 2fer win on that one.  Also tried the plural of the first word, plus enzymes and mesozoan.

Have fun!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 05, 2021, 09:55:38 AM
Yesterday, found ---SAUR and started researching dinosaur names. Some worked but the LB wouldn't take them so I think we found our limit.

Slow start this morning. Back and forth between grading and puzzles, then long walk and woohoo, lunch outdoors!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 05, 2021, 10:18:42 AM
Got to QB, finally! A bunch of points came from filling in blanks by looking at my word list and seeing things I was somehow missing, and then I managed to get the remaining words.  I can report one pangram and no really weird words that I can think of.

Enjoy the outdoors, ciao_yall!

Back to work on the other puzzles...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 05, 2021, 11:27:07 AM
Today, I'm a pangram short of genius. Grrr.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 05, 2021, 11:33:11 AM
Congrats on QB, ab_grp. Found the panagram and finally sneaked into genius. Now I am going to see if I can hit QB without going to the Comments board. I could have done it yesterday, and if you say it's possible without any weird words,  then it's a quest.

Parasaurolophus I feel your pain. I was in "amazing" found the panagram and was still stuck in "amazing" for a few more words! I call it the "amazing tar pit" because it seems like once you are in there it takes forever to get out.

LB is challenging today. I at least got a 4fer which is the official "great job" but you all have me striving for more.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 05, 2021, 11:43:32 AM
Just passed genius, but still pangramless!

Edit: got it as I posted. Phew. On to QB!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 05, 2021, 12:06:37 PM
Congrats on genius and pangrams, Parasaurolophus and ciao_yall! No, I don't think there were any very unusual words (personally, based on previous puzzles), like anything that would make me say "what on earth is that?!".  There is a lot of bookkeeping, which I think I will start calling beekeeping!

No real luck on LB yet, but sudokus are done.

Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 05, 2021, 02:42:15 PM
Congratulations on all the successes!

I got the official solution to LB yesterday, but today's LB has me flummoxed.

In SB, I'm at genius, and probably will stay there.  No pangram yet!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 05, 2021, 03:13:47 PM
Congrats all! Just made it to QB. Got stuck on finding the last word which turned out to be a variant of one I'd found early on.

ab_grp, crossword statistics reports my streak as 1. I had to keep telling myself last night that life doesn't revolve around arbitrary streaks.

I've yet to look at LB. It's been a long day. There's still paperwork for two cheaters.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 05, 2021, 03:19:26 PM
Congrats on your QB, Langue_doc! I'm sorry about the crossword streak, but yep it's just arbitrary.  Sorry you have to deal with cheaters.

Congrats on genius, cathwen! I forgot to ask what your final word was yesterday.  Mine was "outworn", which I finally just stumbled upon.  Not a great word, I think? I have a couple LB contenders, but no luck yet.  Good luck to you.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 05, 2021, 04:34:19 PM
Good luck with LB, ab_grp. Got the two-fer. I stumbled on the first word and decided that I liked it so much that I kept trying to get the other letters to form a word.

My final word in yesterday's SB was outro. I got it because I mistyped what I thought was s word.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 05, 2021, 04:59:27 PM
Langue_doc awesome! I have a 3fer but no 2fer yet.

For SB I'm at Beta (204 points, 85%) so it's gonna a be a while. Beekeeping, LOL ab_grp!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 05, 2021, 05:49:55 PM
ciao_yall, messaging the hint to you and ab_grp. Read only if you want to.

SB words are mostly familiar ones.

Spoiler alert--one of the words (not the exact word) reminded me of Bugs Bunny's nemesis--rather Bugs Bunny was this character's nemesis. See if you can play around with this word.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 05, 2021, 08:43:03 PM
LB - Got it! Thanks Langue_doc! I had already found the first word earlier but couldn't do much with it. Then the reminder of yesterday's bee put me over the edge.

SB - Hit the Comments thread to see if I could polish off the Bee. Got close then stared at Langue_doc!'s hint and Whee! QB!

I can sleep easy now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 06, 2021, 07:08:14 AM
Woohoo, ciao_yall.

Morning, everyone.

Two pangrams in SB, familiar words so far. Not sure what to expect after genius.

Aside: just got home from the liquor store. Nobody drinks sherry anymore. Oh for a smooth amontillado.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 06, 2021, 07:56:57 AM
Good morning!

Thanks for the LB hint, Langue_doc! I saw it while on my phone and didn't get back to my computer this morning but took another look and figured out the answer from your clues.  I definitely would not have found that solution on my own! Thanks! I can't seem to look at LB even in a browser on my phone, so I will have to try to take a pic before shutting down for the day in case hints come in.

Congrats on getting the 2fer as well, ciao_yall, and for getting to QB!

I think I am right at the cusp of Alpha today, 118 pts (~89.7%) but I thought I had only found one pangram and don't have enough points left for another, so I will have to go back and look again.  It was pretty quick going for a while, but then I got stuck until I remembered some bee words that have bitten me in the past.  Not sure what's remaining but will try for QB later.

Enjoy the sherry when you get to it, Langue_doc.  I am mostly a red wine person, but husband and his bud had a huge sherry tasting a couple years ago and had picked their favorite.  I think we have a bottle and will go check at some point.  I know pretty much nothing about sherries.

Crossword today was not too hard but had a bit of literature in there, better for those of you with those backgrounds.  On to sudokus.

Good luck!

ETA: Managed to get a 2fer!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 06, 2021, 08:03:12 AM
Oops, only one pangram. I thought I had found one before coffee, but now that I'm checking the letters against my list, I see that there's only one.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 06, 2021, 08:32:17 AM
LB yesterday - AKIMBO-OUTDREW. I got AKIMBO early on, but couldn't figure out a pairing. OUTDREW feels like a word that SB would not have taken (inter-puzzulality). Yesterday I got 3fers with various combinations of DRUMBEAT, TAIKO, REWORK.

On to today's solving! Plus the WSJ puzzles and a LOR for a student.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 06, 2021, 09:00:05 AM
Congratulations to those who got yesterday’s LB!  I never did get that one.  I had a bunch of good words—roadwork, motorbike, iridium, browbeat, but could not find words with the remaining letters.  I did not see AKIMBO!

I did find a 2-fer today, but it might not be the official answer. 

I just got to Beta on SB and will try for more.  Langue_doc, I'm glad you confirmed that there is only one pangram!  I had the pangram, but was twisting and turning letters looking for another. 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 06, 2021, 09:01:32 AM
Congratulations to those who got yesterday’s LB!  I never did get that one.  I had a bunch of good words—roadwork, motorbike, iridium, browbeat, but could not find words with the remaining letters.  I did not see AKIMBO!

I did find a 2-fer today, but it might not be the official answer. 

I just got to Beta on SB and will try for more.  Langue_doc, I'm glad you confirmed that there is only one pangram!  I had the pangram, but was twisting and turning letters looking for another.

It counts! Congratulations!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 06, 2021, 09:13:07 AM
Congrats, cathwen! I will look forward to seeing if we have the same 2fer.  Mine is not super weird, so might be official? Could be more elegant, I guess.  And congrats on Beta!

Got medium sudoku done but working on hard now and then back to the bee.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 06, 2021, 09:19:14 AM
I got a super weird 2fer so definitely not official or elegant. But it worked.

Back to SB. Funny how it takes some words that one would think are just a prefix, but not others.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 06, 2021, 02:41:35 PM
Well, since we were both up to Alpha (I finally got to 119, so felt more safely in that territory), we decided to compare.  We each donated a word to the other, and I happened to guess the remaining word for a team QB.  In my opinion, definitely could be a tough day because I think there are a lot of bee words in there that will get you if you don't remember them.

Ciao_yall, I am guessing that we have different solutions.  Good luck on the bee.  They definitely are inconsistent about what they accept. 

Still working on hard sudoku, and the next round is due out in 20 minutes! ack.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 06, 2021, 03:38:05 PM
 Congratulations on your QB, ab_grp!

I came to a grinding halt with only two words to go before QB.  In frustration, I checked the answers; one was a word I had never heard before and must have been the only combination of letters that I didn’t try!  The other word I had heard, but rarely.  So I'm not kicking myself too hard.

I'll look forward to comparing LB answers tomorrow!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 06, 2021, 04:54:24 PM
Found a cleaner 2fer that is probably the official solution.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 06, 2021, 09:00:51 PM
Congrats all. There's no such thing as an "official" solution, IMHO. Any two words accepted by LB is the correct solution.

Made it to QB. The unusual 4 letter words have appeared in previous puzzles. The only new word was what appears to be a proper noun. I tried the combination and wad surprised that it was accepted.

LB has more than one solution as you can get different sets depending on whether or not you have a plural as the first word.

I'm one square amiss on the crossword. Winter storm warning tomorrow, so will drown my sorrows and worries by tackling the puzzles in the print edition.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 07, 2021, 07:17:10 AM
Good morning, all.

Stuck at amazing on the bee. At this point I'm despairing of getting to genius. I keep finding words with 'm'. Aaargh!!!

LB: NYT's solution, noted as "our solution" is jubilation-nexus. I first had several long words that contained either a J or a Z, but couldn't get the two-fer. Then I found the NYT solution, and soon after that, jubilations-sex, and then, jinxes-subtotal. LB today--holy sh$t!

Repeat after me, "There's no such thing as an official solution. LB accepted my words so I have the correct solution."
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 07, 2021, 08:38:10 AM
Good morning!

Congrats on your QB yesterday, Langue_doc! And several 2fers, wow! Hope you figured out your crossword issue.  And stay warm and safe in your new round of winter weather.

I got to 148 on the bee so far today, not even to genius yet.  Crossword was not difficult but long as usual for Sunday.  Was going strong on the bee for a while, got a pangram quickly, but now suffering.  I will get back to it later.  Luckily, some letters we have had recently.  And a banner day, as what is probably the most challenged not-accepted word has made its way back in and is accepted.  Whee!

My guess is that "opah" was a tough one yesterday on the bee.  To me, that's a crossword word.  The final word that I happened to guess, which I think was in there before, was pompano.

As for LB, I got JOINS-SUBTEXTUAL.  I got subtext right away and realized I could add some more letters, and then joins was easy with the remaining letters.  I agree, any accepted solution is a victory! I am always just curious about what they come up with.  And, of course, what everyone here comes up with his even more interesting to me. 

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 07, 2021, 08:50:30 AM
I like the way you think Langue_doc!  My not-official-but-correct LB solution yesterday was SUBJOINS-SEXTAL.

I am tearing my hair out over today's LB.  I have some good words, but they just don't work together!

I just made it to genius on SB, but will be amazed if I get beyond that. 

Maybe I’ll turn to the crossword for a while then turn back to LB. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 07, 2021, 08:54:15 AM
I'm at 93 on SB, but flagging.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 07, 2021, 09:08:48 AM
LB yesterday - my first 2fer was JUBILATES-SEXTON. My second was JUBILATION-NEXUS which was official.

Today's - found a 3fer so we'll see.

SB yesterday - I hit 125 points and, according to the little checkbox thingie, managed to find all the words (with help from the Comments board), but I never got a QB signal. Hmph.

cathwen A 2fer is a 2fer! Sometimes I think mine have been cleaner than the official solution in that I used fewer letters. I still marvel that you found EMOJI.

Parasaurolophus Yeah, I will take a break and do other things. I'm also at 93 points and found the panagram. Sometimes I cruise up to the Wordplay column on the NYT as there is a crowd that sets up hints and tips to finish it off. They start off slow and then get more detailed so it's not like you just give up completely. That's how I found the last few words yesterday.

Plus the NYT Sunday, variety puzzles and so much more!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 07, 2021, 09:18:25 AM
LB today--holy sh$t!

After looking at the LB, this made me laugh! Works on several levels.  No real luck on that yet today, but a few mediocre contenders.

Neat that we found so many different 2fers yesterday.

Ciao_yall, sorry you did not get the QB signal! Maybe the app was being wonky.  Uncool, bee!

I got the hard sudoku done, yay! But I am still totally at a loss on yesterday's.  I cannot find a foothold past where I had gotten to, and the cell it lights up as a hint does nothing for me.  I'll keep at it until the new ones come out later.  I feel like I'm getting better at them but am still missing some reasoning approaches.  I was able to use more distant reasoning to capitalize on the hint cell it lit up a couple days ago, but no luck with that so far on yesterday's.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 07, 2021, 09:22:57 AM
Good to hear from y'all. Too discombobulated to respond other than to admit defeat with SB--am not a genius. Have to get breakfast so that I can clear my brain.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 07, 2021, 10:29:29 AM
Well, I got to 182 pts in the bee (~83%), still a long ways to go.  I think the banana and coffee helped, and now I have had a bagel, so that may help further.  I hope your breakfast helps you, Langue_doc!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 07, 2021, 12:09:27 PM
Okay, now I'm at 205 on the bee, so got to Alpha but not sure if I will get the remaining 14 or so points for QB.  I think we can safely say there is only one pangram given not enough points left for a second? I have a chance to win the diamond league in Duolingo, so I might spend time on that for a bit but will try again on bee and LB intermittently.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 07, 2021, 12:51:16 PM
Alpha!  That's great, ab_grp.  I'm at 155 points, and don't see myself getting much further. 

Also, LB continues to confound me!  I have spent an outrageous amount of time on it and still have not solved it.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 07, 2021, 03:46:50 PM
Good luck on Duolingo and congrats on Alpha, ab_grp.

I made it to genius and refuse to torture myself further.

ciao_yall and cathwen, I too like to see what others come up in LB. As for today's puzzle, it's sadistic, so have decided not to put myself in harm's way. Besides, tomorrow's crosswords and sudokus should be out, so onward and upward. Dinner first, though.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 07, 2021, 04:06:21 PM
SB - hit genius. Yay. So just into genius is... Gamma?

LB - Several 3fers, including some close ones. And some good words that eat up a lot of letters but don't leave much to work with. Not there yet.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 07, 2021, 04:42:27 PM
Cathwen, there were numerous times during the bee today that I thought that was it, and then I found a bunch of words I should have gotten.  Not sure what it is with the letter arrangement today that lends itself to that kind of nonsense.   Hope you get some more bee or LB success if you continue!

Langue_doc, I made a similar decision with Duolingo that you did with the bee, but more because the guy I dethroned started pulling some BS, and I was going to waste no further time trying to win legitimately.  I hope you enjoy your dinner and tomorrow's puzzles!

I did get a little further in the bee, to 212.  So, 7 or so more points to QB, and I am about out of ideas.  We will probably compare lists next time we take a break.  No real luck on LB, still trying to work on that occasionally.  At least I did conquer tomorrow's medium sudoku and will wait until tomorrow for the hard one before my eyes fall out from too much screen time.

Time for some wine!   
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 07, 2021, 05:19:16 PM
I sent out my 3fers for you to take a look at. Not all my finds, just the ones I could make 3fers out of.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 07, 2021, 08:51:15 PM
I found an online LB puzzle solver and said, WTH, I'll just see what they come up with.

3fers - yeah, we got those.
2fers - WTF? I mean srsly these are words I didn't know were words!

So now I can rest easy.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 07, 2021, 09:08:25 PM
ciao_yall, I saw your message, but got tied up with long phone calls and prep. I don't have any three-fers alas, as I got into the habit of two or nothing after posting on this thread. The perils of peer pressure!

Glad you got the two-fer. Dare I ask about the solver?

ab_grp, hope you got the crown.

The crossword was easy. One of the clues was about a Queens (NYC) neighborhood, and another a long word that I used here today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 08, 2021, 05:42:56 AM
SB: WTF?

LB solution: a toned down WTF?

Pardon the foul language.

Happy solving, all.

ETA Got to amazing with the pangram. Now I need a mere 3 points to reach 44 and genius. That will have to wait until my next break.

ETA2 Two-fer on my first attempt, and genius. Get back to work!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 08, 2021, 06:15:14 AM
Congratulations, Langue_doc!

After much hair pulling and gnashing of teeth yesterday, I gave up on LB.  But today, I got a 2-fer in the second try! 

I'm at genius on SB.  Now I can relax and get some real  work done! (=work for which I am being paid)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 08, 2021, 07:57:05 AM
Thanks for the message, ciao_yall! Sometimes I think 3fers can lead to 2fers, but like Langue_doc I have started just going for 2fer or nothing after being motivated here.  I hope today's is easier.  At least I finally figured out how to do LB on my phone, though it's kind of a pain without the keyboard.  I tried it a bit last night, but no luck.  Never would have gotten those words!

Got to QB today after finally identifying the remaining word.  It's so short today! And not any obscure words, that I can recall.  Weird bee.  But alas, no QB on my own yesterday.  We did both get to Alpha, and the one I was missing was "neocon", which I am pretty sure I have missed before.  Oh well, a good run.

Congrats on your 2fers and genius levels, cathwen and Langue_doc!

Regarding the crossword, I saw last evening that Rex Parker had tweeted that it was more like a W or Th in difficulty and took him a minute more than his Monday average, so I was interested to try it out.  I didn't think it was difficult at all (sounds like Langue_doc thought the same) and came in 30 seconds under my Monday average, but I think it just goes to show that each puzzle has a unique interaction with each puzzle solver, no matter what skill level or experience. 

Will work on today's hard sudoku and LB after I get pizza dough made... yes, should probably do some real work too at some point, unfortunately!

Happy Monday solving, all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 08, 2021, 08:08:00 AM
Easy genius this morning; on to the QB!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 08, 2021, 08:44:04 AM
Slowish start, but managed to hit Genius and a 2fer (oops it was a b4ss) on my first cup of coffee.

(Was feeling the pressure when I opened the thread this morning). (Still am)

ETA # 3: Okay, NOW a 2fer.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 08, 2021, 08:51:24 AM
Thanks for the message, ciao_yall! Sometimes I think 3fers can lead to 2fers, but like Langue_doc I have started just going for 2fer or nothing after being motivated here.  I hope today's is easier.  At least I finally figured out how to do LB on my phone, though it's kind of a pain without the keyboard.  I tried it a bit last night, but no luck.  Never would have gotten those words!


I screen shot my 3fers and B4SS as I get them so I can keep words that lead to others.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 08, 2021, 08:55:00 AM
Thanks for the message, ciao_yall! Sometimes I think 3fers can lead to 2fers, but like Langue_doc I have started just going for 2fer or nothing after being motivated here.  I hope today's is easier.  At least I finally figured out how to do LB on my phone, though it's kind of a pain without the keyboard.  I tried it a bit last night, but no luck.  Never would have gotten those words!


I screen shot my 3fers and B4SS as I get them so I can keep words that lead to others.

That is a good idea.  I usually just write my contenders and the remaining letters down and hope that the remnants will spark something.  But you are usually more successful than I am at LB, so it seems like you have an approach that works! Congrats on the 2fer!! Oh yeah, that day when ER were on the same side and ING were on the same side, of course ZINGER kept popping into my head. :-(

Congrats on genius, ciao_yall and Parasaurolophus!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 08, 2021, 08:57:54 AM
Thanks for the message, ciao_yall! Sometimes I think 3fers can lead to 2fers, but like Langue_doc I have started just going for 2fer or nothing after being motivated here.  I hope today's is easier.  At least I finally figured out how to do LB on my phone, though it's kind of a pain without the keyboard.  I tried it a bit last night, but no luck.  Never would have gotten those words!


I screen shot my 3fers and B4SS as I get them so I can keep words that lead to others.

That is a good idea.  I usually just write my contenders and the remaining letters down and hope that the remnants will spark something.  But you are usually more successful than I am at LB, so it seems like you have an approach that works! Congrats on the 2fer!! Oh yeah, that day when ER were on the same side and ING were on the same side, of course ZINGER kept popping into my head. :-(

Congrats on genius, ciao_yall and Parasaurolophus!

Yeah, then I stare at them in between rounds to see if I can find some patterns. I know I'm getting warm when my 3fers include weird little words like KIR, GAP, etc to use up a final letter or transition between two longer ones.

 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 08, 2021, 09:10:42 AM
Whew, made it to QB! It's been a little while.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 08, 2021, 09:28:04 AM
Congrats on the QB, Parasaurolophus!!

Ciao_yall, I also tend to notice that there are common letters in the ones remaining from my contenders, so I know I need to try to make use of particular ones.  It obviously doesn't always or often lead to success, but sometimes it does. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 08, 2021, 02:17:27 PM

Regarding the crossword, I saw last evening that Rex Parker had tweeted that it was more like a W or Th in difficulty and took him a minute more than his Monday average, so I was interested to try it out.  I didn't think it was difficult at all (sounds like Langue_doc thought the same) and came in 30 seconds under my Monday average, but I think it just goes to show that each puzzle has a unique interaction with each puzzle solver, no matter what skill level or experience. 


The crossword was most definitely not a W/Th level. Standards are getting lower everywhere.

Congrats all on QBs and two-fers.

Yesterday I missed the eco-words and a few others. Tepee somehow didn't get entered despite it being my first word. LB wasn't too bad given the -ing and -er configurations today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 08, 2021, 03:32:55 PM
Oops, I had a mistake in my recollection that I found when I just went back to see if he said more about his issues with it.  Rex Parker said today's was more like a T or W.  https://twitter.com/rexparker/status/1358562490972520451 Sorry about that.  Still, I didn't think it was difficult, not W level (and certainly not Th... again, my mistake!). 

I finally got a 2fer! And my initial word used all except one letter, so it was very, very easy to find a mate! Whee.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 08, 2021, 03:56:32 PM
Woohoo ab_grp. There are probably several solutions today.

Rex Parker seems to be overly optimistic about the difficulty levels as this crossword (CW) was a very easy one.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 08, 2021, 04:06:03 PM
Thanks, Langue_doc! I wonder if it's ever been possible to get a pangram 1fer.  Rex P. often gripes about the Shortz-era puzzles, but I was surprised that he thought this one was harder than a typical Monday.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 08, 2021, 05:05:13 PM
Thanks, Langue_doc! I wonder if it's ever been possible to get a pangram 1fer.  Rex P. often gripes about the Shortz-era puzzles, but I was surprised that he thought this one was harder than a typical Monday.

I recall we had a 1fer, B4SS maybe a month ago. LEXICOGRAPHY would have been the word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 08, 2021, 06:14:13 PM
Thanks, Langue_doc! I wonder if it's ever been possible to get a pangram 1fer.  Rex P. often gripes about the Shortz-era puzzles, but I was surprised that he thought this one was harder than a typical Monday.

I recall we had a 1fer, B4SS maybe a month ago. LEXICOGRAPHY would have been the word.
I remember that one  Just got my second two-fer.

The crosswords used to be much more difficult in the Will Shortz era, and even more challenging when Eugene Maleska was the editor. The clues were also different--I remember struggling with anagrams.

ETA The young'uns should take a look at those.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 08, 2021, 06:24:44 PM
Oops, I had a mistake in my recollection that I found when I just went back to see if he said more about his issues with it.  Rex Parker said today's was more like a T or W.  https://twitter.com/rexparker/status/1358562490972520451 Sorry about that.  Still, I didn't think it was difficult, not W level (and certainly not Th... again, my mistake!). 

I finally got a 2fer! And my initial word used all except one letter, so it was very, very easy to find a mate! Whee.

You have me curious right now! Can't wait for the big reveal tomorrow!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 09, 2021, 06:36:18 AM
Good morning, everyone!

Ab_grp, I am also dying to see your 2-fer! 

My LB yesterday was PROWLING-GRACKLE.  I'm curious to see what everyone else got, especially Langue_doc, who got two 2-fers!

Today's LB was a bit challenging, but I finally found a 2-fer.

I missed QB yesterday by one word—googol.  I would never have guessed that in a million years.  Today's SB apparently has three pangrams, but I've only found two. 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 09, 2021, 07:34:28 AM
cathwen, congrats on your two-fer.

My first pair was packing-growler, and then I found prowling-grackle (lots of grackles in some local parks). I haven't had a chance to look at today's puzzle.

The three pangrams aren't too difficult--more like variations on the same theme. As for googol, I remember seeing it on an earlier puzzle, but I still don't know what it means.

Happy solving, all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 09, 2021, 07:43:53 AM
Good morning!

Wow, cathwen, you already found a 2fer?! Congrats! Mine was COP-POWERWALKING.  I had been trying a ton of -ing including cowering, tried powering and something clicked.  I still want to see if it's ever possible to get a true 1fer!

Sounds like cathwen and Langue_doc both had solutions similar to the official one.  I would prefer the growler (of beer) Langue_doc found than a glower.

As for googol, I am familiar but still got it pretty late in the game.  Just started into todays but got 2 pangrams.  I will keep my out for a third, thanks! First crosswords and definitely coffee.

Happy Tuesday solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 09, 2021, 07:47:43 AM
Yesterday managed to get QB, woohoo. Last word was LULU.

My LB was PACKING-GLOWER which was the official solution but I like ab_grp's much better!

On to today's.

ETA: Genius, 3fer. Hope the 2fer comes soon. cathwen whatever vitamins you are taking every morning, I need some.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 09, 2021, 08:42:37 AM
Congrats on your QB, ciao_yall! Lulu is one of those that tends to escape me.  I think of it as somewhat a bee/crossword word.  And yay on your official 2fer yesterday and genius today! I'm sure you will get your 2fer.  I could also use some of cathwen's vitamins.  Looks like some tough letters to deal with today.

It helped to know that there was a third pangram, so thanks, Langue_doc! I got to 132, so Alpha with 7 or so points to go, but I am stuck again for now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 09, 2021, 09:59:40 AM
Can't modify, but I finally got QB!

Still working on medium sudoku, and only one contender so far for LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 09, 2021, 10:07:13 AM
QB!  Congratulations, ab_grp! 

I am stuck with one long word to go (1 word, 9 points. Ugh!). I have the three pangrams, though.  But at least I made Alpha, so that is some consolation.  I'll keep spinning those letters...


Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 09, 2021, 10:50:57 AM
QB!  Congratulations, ab_grp! 

I am stuck with one long word to go (1 word, 9 points. Ugh!). I have the three pangrams, though.  But at least I made Alpha, so that is some consolation.  I'll keep spinning those letters...

Congrats on Alpha! And I know which word you mean.  Not difficult, but one of those inconsistencies, like why accept that and not other similar things.  Good luck.  You've got this!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 09, 2021, 12:49:39 PM
Can't modify again, but I managed to get a 2fer.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 09, 2021, 01:09:09 PM
Congrats on QBs and two-fers.

SB wasn't too bad, but I still get frustrated because the program keeps rejecting 'kine'.

There was only one word that gave me trouble, but I managed to chase it down.

Other than noting the q and z, I haven't made any progress on LB. But the other puzzles are done.

cathwen, I think I know the elusive word; it's something that would come to mind if you're an outdoors person.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 09, 2021, 02:55:11 PM
If anyone would like a hint about anything, let me know, and if I'm still around I will be happy to provide one.

Sounds like you got QB, Langue_doc, so congrats!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 09, 2021, 03:41:30 PM
Thanks, ab_grp, I'll take you up on your offer.

Yes, I did get to QB. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 09, 2021, 03:58:44 PM
Hooray! Hope the hints help.

I'm trying a new strategy with the sudokus I can't complete.  Tell it to give me a hint so it highlights a cell, figure out possibilities for cell, print as many copies of puzzle filled in with all my entries and candidates as there are possibilities, and follow each possibility to completion or a conflict.  I am hoping it will help me see what I am missing when I can't get any further.  Anyway, it's an experiment.  Luckily, my first case involved only two possibilities.  One led to a solution, the other eventually led to needing two numbers to fit into one cell.  But it took a long path to get there! I was going to try that with today's hard puzzle, and asked it for the hint cell, but I ended up solving it myself by going back through diligently row by row, column by column, container by container, etc. and finding that I had not noticed particular restrictional information. 

I honestly do not know how you consistent sudoku solvers (I think of Langue_doc and cathwen, here) do it.  Kudos!!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 09, 2021, 04:17:48 PM
Lots of 3fers, no 2fer yet. Lots of tricky letters and I haven't found the one that gobbles up enough of them to make a 2fer.

 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 09, 2021, 04:50:55 PM
Lots of 3fers, no 2fer yet. Lots of tricky letters and I haven't found the one that gobbles up enough of them to make a 2fer.

I'll send you my hints (with space in case).  Good luck!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 09, 2021, 04:55:58 PM
Lots of 3fers, no 2fer yet. Lots of tricky letters and I haven't found the one that gobbles up enough of them to make a 2fer.

I'll send you my hints (with space in case).  Good luck!

Thanks! Once you pointed out the first word, I had already found the second word. Woohoo!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 09, 2021, 05:02:32 PM
Lots of 3fers, no 2fer yet. Lots of tricky letters and I haven't found the one that gobbles up enough of them to make a 2fer.

I'll send you my hints (with space in case).  Good luck!

Thanks! Once you pointed out the first word, I had already found the second word. Woohoo!

Hooray! Glad to help! Congrats!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 09, 2021, 06:36:17 PM
Lots of 3fers, no 2fer yet. Lots of tricky letters and I haven't found the one that gobbles up enough of them to make a 2fer.

I'll send you my hints (with space in case).  Good luck!

Thanks! Once you pointed out the first word, I had already found the second word. Woohoo!

I too had the second word along with others containing the q. Thanks for the hint ab_grp, as it helped me get the first word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 09, 2021, 07:15:17 PM
Lots of 3fers, no 2fer yet. Lots of tricky letters and I haven't found the one that gobbles up enough of them to make a 2fer.

I'll send you my hints (with space in case).  Good luck!

Thanks! Once you pointed out the first word, I had already found the second word. Woohoo!

I too had the second word along with others containing the q. Thanks for the hint ab_grp, as it helped me get the first word.

Yay and congrats! Sounds like you were both headed in the right direction anyway.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 10, 2021, 05:54:34 AM

cathwen, I think I know the elusive word; it's something that would come to mind if you're an outdoors person.

I remembered this hint when I woke up in the middle of the night and said "Oh, sh$t". My apologies, cathwen. I still can't figure out how I confused 'hike' with 'hitchhike'--probably because I haven't been on any hikes with any of the outdoors groups in such a long time.

Made it to genius today, and have yet to look at LB.

Happy solving, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 10, 2021, 06:37:38 AM
Thanks, Langue_doc, even if it wasn’t the hint you meant to send.  I did not find hitchhike, but I am happy enough just to have come within one point of QB for the second day in a row—an improvement over past performance.  Not sure how today will go!  I've gotten to Amazing so far.  Congratulations on Genius!

I got the official solution to LB yesterday—HAZARDOUS-SQUEAKY—and found a 2-fer today on my first try, which almost never happens. 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 10, 2021, 08:17:18 AM
Thanks, Langue_doc, even if it wasn’t the hint you meant to send.  I did not find hitchhike, but I am happy enough just to have come within one point of QB for the second day in a row—an improvement over past performance.  Not sure how today will go!  I've gotten to Amazing so far.  Congratulations on Genius!

I got the official solution to LB yesterday—HAZARDOUS-SQUEAKY—and found a 2-fer today on my first try, which almost never happens.

You nearly always have a 2fer before I have poured my first cup of coffee!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 10, 2021, 08:31:00 AM
Good morning!

I thought hitchhike was pretty tough.  There are so many compound or compound-ish words they don't accept, and it's unusual to have HH back to back.  My final word was kinetic, but I think hitchhike was probably penultimate.

Got to 182 today, still 6 or so points from Alpha, and am stumped so will do other stuff for a bit and hope something comes to me.  Got some sudokus and LB to do, or at least try.

Congrats on your quick 2fer, cathwen! You certainly have a knack for LB!

And congrats on genius so far, Langue_doc!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 10, 2021, 09:37:57 AM
Well, I got a 2fer! Guessing it is probably not the official solution, but who knows.  Victory!

Got medium sudoku done, now time for a break and another attempt at the bee.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 10, 2021, 10:14:00 AM
2fer counts, ab_grp! Official, schmofficial.

Genius on SB.

Still fooling with LB today, will play some more later.

Thanks to ab_grp I got the 2fer. SQUEAKY came early, but I was stuck on RAZOR for my Z word and somehow HAZARD never popped out. Funny because I had a boss whose last name was Hazard, many years ago.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 10, 2021, 10:51:27 AM
Yeah, I am always happy to get a 2fer, but when it seems to possibly be unofficial I figure it might be worth mentioning so in case that indicates there could be several solutions/opportunities.  Thanks!! Also very welcome on the help.  Usually I am on the receiving end!

And congrats on genius, ciao_yall!

I did manage to get to Alpha + (194), but I am really stumped on what else could be in the bee.  I found a couple words that I probably should have already gotten, so maybe there are others like that, but I am having a hard time figuring it out.

Still struggling with the hard sudoku, naturally.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 10, 2021, 02:05:33 PM
And finally got to QB.  I had gotten up to 199, then had to have a meeting I foolishly set up with my co-author (taking time away from puzzles!), went to have a break after, and bam.  Saw the final word.  Still totally flummoxed on hard sudoku, however.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 10, 2021, 02:07:55 PM
2-fer, yay. Messy but I'll keep it.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 10, 2021, 02:50:47 PM
Finally made it to QB. The words were all familiar ones. I don't think I'll be able to tackle LB as I'm getting ready for a long Zoom session and tomorrow's crosswords soon after that.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 10, 2021, 04:41:15 PM
Congrats on your 2fer, ciao_yall! Looking forward to seeing the assorted LB solutions tomorrow and which is considered schmofficial.

Congrats on QB, Langue_doc!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 11, 2021, 07:27:31 AM
Good morning! 

So what did everyone get for yesterday's LB?  The "official" solution was POETIC-CAULDRON, but I got PLATONIC-CURDLE. 

I found a 2-fer on today's after some hair-pulling.  I hate it when E and R are on the same side! 

I missed inclining and clinician on yesterday's SB, which is annoying, because I should have seen them.  Today's SB is...coming along.  I'm at amazing.  Not so sure I'll make genius today, but who knows! 

Congratulations on yesterday's QBs, Langue_doc and ab_grp! 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 11, 2021, 07:49:06 AM
LB - I got PONE-ELUCIDATOR.

Yesterday's New Yorker came with a crossword puzzle so plenty of diversions for today!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 11, 2021, 08:42:00 AM
Good morning!

I got PERITONEAL-LUCID on the LB yesterday.  Lots of solutions!

Congrats on your 2fer already, cathwen!

Inclining was my final word yesterday! I had even tried clin and cline and out of desperation, but it just hit me when I looked at it some time later.  Clinician I try to keep in my clinic-clinical-clinician group, but I think my husband also missed that one despite him being the one who usually finds the trio.

Today's bee is very long!! Several pangrams so far.  I'm at 304 points, so genius but not even near Alpha yet.  Wow.  Time to check out the other puzzles from today.  I thought the crossword was clever in retrospect.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 11, 2021, 09:33:16 AM
I'm at 240 in the bee, and many pangrams (three or four). Time for a break.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 11, 2021, 09:58:41 AM
Made it to genius this morning, and lost count of the pangrams along the way. I think this is it for today.

My last word yesterday was 'clinic'. Took me a long time to find this one. I found clinical and clinician early on, so don't know why this one didn't even occur to me until I started looking for the missing word.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 11, 2021, 10:47:13 AM
I made it to Alpha plus a bit after another pattern popped out at me.  So 373 so far.  Still nearly 20 points to QB! Yikes. 

Computer had an error and restarted, so I lost the weird hard sudoku yesterday and can't seem to find any archived puzzles or solutions online.  I might write to ask if they are available or could be made available, because I also lost the one from a couple days ago that I was working on, but at least I have that printed.  Ugh.  In any case, off to the medium and hard for today and then back to LB and the bee.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 11, 2021, 12:11:16 PM
SB is a slog today.  I'm at 316 points so far, so I just made Beta.  I didn't think I'd spend so much time on it, but I'm now doing my Webex office student hour; of course no one is showing up, so I have to find some way to amuse myself!

Ab_grp, congrats on Alpha! 

I'm also enjoying all the different solutions to LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 11, 2021, 04:22:47 PM
Genius, lost count of panagrams!

And, a 2fer. Kind of a disappointing 2fer because I had some fun words that ultimately were didn't fit the 2fer.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 11, 2021, 04:48:11 PM
Thanks, cathwen, and congrats on Beta! I hope you had some additional luck, too.  We finally quit at 375 pts.  I guess we could have gotten the remaining words, but I doubt it would have happened any time soon.  I guess this long puzzle was to balance out that really short one from a few days ago.

Congrats on genius and your 2fer, ciao_yall! A solution is a solution.  Maybe one with a fun word will pop into your mind later!

ETA: finally got a 2fer!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 11, 2021, 05:53:47 PM
I haven't had any time for SB, but miracle of miracles, found a two-fer. I think I'm just over 300 in SB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 11, 2021, 10:45:32 PM
Whew, made it! Had a look just before bed and found another pangram.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 12, 2021, 07:44:12 AM
I got the official solution which was JILTED-DOWNPOUR. Really wanted to do something with JULEP.

On to today's...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 12, 2021, 08:12:43 AM
Congrats, Langue_doc and Parasaurolophus!

Ciao_yall, I got that solution as well.  I had had JILTED as one of my few J possibilities, and luckily looking at it on my phone later on helped me find DOWNPOUR.  I'll go check out today's in a sec.

Got to 174 so far today on the bee, so not Alpha yet.  Currently stumped.  Only one pangram so far.  Yesterday's was just loooong and a lot of beekeeping.  We missed indie, edenic, and coifed (though we got coiffed! argh).

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 12, 2021, 09:24:16 AM
Mine too was jilted-downpour. Got to amazing this morning before my 60+ mile round trip, mostly on the parkways. Now I have to complete vertex, then SB, and only then LB. Priorities, priorities (can't get the schm- to work on this word). There's also the coursework and grading.

Happy solving, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 12, 2021, 09:51:37 AM
I also got JILTED-DOWNPOUR.  I found a 2-fer today, but I have a feeling that when we compare tomorrow, we'll have a variety of answers. 

I've reached genius in SB with 161 points so far.  I'll keep coming back to it throughout the day.  Not sure Beta, much less Alpha or QB, are in the cards today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 12, 2021, 09:57:19 AM
2fer on LB already.

SB is a bit of a slog. Won't take OLLA (crossword-prejudice!) or HELLA (anti-California-itis.)
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 12, 2021, 11:31:22 AM
Congrats on your 2fers, cathwen and ciao_yall! I am still working on it but have some good contenders at least.

Not much more luck on the bee, now stuck at 185.  I am not sure I'll even get to Alpha today.  I am really stumped.

Good luck to us all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 12, 2021, 12:37:02 PM
Well, ab_grp, you're ahead of me.  I'm at 178, so at least I made Beta.  But I agree with ciao_yall, it's a slog.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 12, 2021, 12:40:21 PM
I think we should celebrate Beta every day, but today for sure.  I just took another crack at it for 15 or so minutes straight and got nowhere.  Still something like 35 points left to QB! I was complaining that yesterday's didn't have enough interesting words, but this one's words might be too interesting for me to find.  I have no idea.  Husband and I may just end up comparing lists at the next break at this rate.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 12, 2021, 03:39:44 PM
Made it to 186. I just looked at yesterday's solution--deice? Now that I'm typing, I get it. It's still pronounced as a bisyllabic word? I kept saying it with the pronunciation for 'dice' to see if it reminded me of any words and only then did I hit on de-ice.

Tried a few words with LB, but no solutions yet.

Did anyone get the crown--QB?

ETA Congrats on your combined scores, ab_grp!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 12, 2021, 03:48:16 PM
Congrats on 186, Langue_doc! We stopped when I had 185, compared, and got to 195 I think after donating back and forth (still not Alpha!).  I finally ran the program and had to supplement with answers from the answer site.  Good gravy.  We have missed some of these before but probably would not have found them.  Ugh!

Will get back to LB and hard sudoku. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 12, 2021, 07:11:16 PM
SB - gave up when I tipped into genius (YAY!) Then got re-inspired when the WSJ crossword puzzle suggested another word. It worked, so I hit the comments board and hit 210 so Alpha. Yes, it's a tricky one today. Still won't see Queen Bee as even the super clues weren't enough to Google.

 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 13, 2021, 06:29:54 AM
Yesterday's SB: enhalo? agelong? galena? The Kindle keeps correcting all three.  I often miss naan, nana, gala, gaga, and gonna, so can't blame Kindle for these omissions.

Genius today with the pangram.

LB was whimper/recreation and cowcatcher/repairman. I'd been trying to find a compound with 'cow' for most of the evening--well, not quite 'most', but I did make an effort. I like my second pair as it reminds me of trains, and because I've always tried to imagine cows getting scooped up by cowcatchers.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 13, 2021, 08:14:02 AM
Well, I quit at 178 yesterday on SB.  I can't believe I missed naan, allele, and haggle.  But enhalo?  And, it accepted gonna, but not hella.   I kept seeing Ganelon, the evil villain of La Chanson de Roland, but of course could not use it. 

I got to genius on today's SB, but have not yet found the pangram. 

Langue_doc, I love cowcatcher/repairman!  And I've always wondered if cowcatchers did, in fact, catch cows (or were effective in coaxing them off the tracks).

My LB answer yesterday was WHOMP-PRECANTATION.  I tried precantation after getting whomp--I'd never heard the word before, and thought it was iffy--but was surprised when LB accepted it.  I found a 2-fer today that seems a lot more 'normal'.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 13, 2021, 08:25:50 AM
Yes, enhalo was the word in the WSJ puzzle that made me decide to restart.  In the end I missed gage and nonagonal. One of the hints on the comments board was essentially the Wikipedia entry for longan. I think the SB writers are kicking it up a notch.

Yesterday's LB was whimper-recreation. Not as clean as the official solution (and I love cowcatcher-repairman, Langue_doc). I need to think about more compound words when doing LB.

On to today's...
 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 13, 2021, 08:45:14 AM
Good morning!

Sounds like we had a lot of similar issues with yesterday's bee.  We also missed naan, despite usually getting that one.  The program had to give me that one and gonna (argh!), the database gave me longan (argh, just missed that one recently!) and agelong (also recently missed), and the answer site gave me enhalo and edenic.  Oh well! It burns my bucket that they will take enhalo but not so many of the other en- words, let alone non- words.

Good job all around on LB yesterday, too! Lots of solutions! I was trying to make WHAMP work so I could go with my contender PRECONCEPTION. No go, and I forgot to get back to it.  Langue_doc, you made me realize I don't really know what happened to the cows that were caught with cow catchers. 

I'm at 149 on bee today, so just about at Alpha? About 17 points left, so I guess there could be another pangram and that's it, or a few words. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 13, 2021, 09:06:55 AM
I think a cowcatcher was designed to scoop the critter off the tracks rather than have it hit by the train and block all that commerce. Not sure people were too concerned about the state of the cow as long as the trains could keep running.

Today's LB is a snarl of B4SS blocks! Managed to get a "congrats you solved in 6 words" but puh-leeze. They don't know what a fast crowd I'm running with these days.

ETA: SB wouldn't take (decided to remove it in case people don't like the fact that it might suggest other words).
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 13, 2021, 03:19:37 PM
Update - genius on SB.

2fer on LB but not official as the magic system says it's not a word, even if it is a word. So I'm keeping it for now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 13, 2021, 05:28:12 PM
Congrats on genius, ciao_yall! And if you have even an unaccepted solution, you are further than I am on LB.  I have what I think is a good contender but need to find a mate.  I'll try to work on it a bit on and off tonight on my phone.

I don't know how the rest of the crowd is feeling, but I'm not feeling too fast today! We got derailed when husband had to go into work for something quick that ended up being 10+ hours, poor guy is still not home yet and won't be for a while.  I haven't looked at the bee since out of consideration for my bee buddy, so hopefully we can take a look at some point or just give up at rounded to Alpha.

Did get today's and tomorrow's sudokus done, plus some real work and chores.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 13, 2021, 05:52:28 PM
Today's puzzles are a drag. 140 points on SB and no progress on LB. It's two-fer or bust, so it's going to be a bust.

Sudokus are done; I'll deal with the crossword tomorrow.

Goodnight all, and Happy Valentine's Day tomorrow.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 13, 2021, 07:08:45 PM
Went to the cheat site for LB and... headdesk. I had the first word but not the second. Surprisingly close to my illegal 2fer.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 14, 2021, 08:55:57 AM
Good morning, and Happy Valentine's Day!

Ciao_yall, it's great if you had even one of the words.  I got stuck trying to make MAHARAJA work. 

I saw a note on the crossword that it might not render well in iOS14, but I figured I could skip over to the website version if need be.  Seemed to work out similarly to husband's on Android, though I didn't understand why some of the theme stuff was done that way. 

Oh yeah, when things finally settled last night, we compared bee lists and figured we each had one word the other didn't have given # points and # words.  It ended up that we complemented each other and got to QB! Today I'm at 159, so not even at Beta yet.  One pangram so far.

My valentine may have to go into work again, in the building snowstorm, so I guess I'll do Duolingos and real work until the next sudokus come out in the afternoon.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 14, 2021, 09:05:48 AM
Morning!

Today's LB is appropriate for today's theme. Got the two-fer without much effort.

Stuck on genius.

ab_grp, hope the roads aren't too treacherous for your valentine.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 14, 2021, 09:17:15 AM
Thanks for the good thoughts, Langue_doc.  I am really crossing my fingers that he doesn't have to go.  And thank you for the hint! I was wondering if it would be day-appropriate, and your hint easily led me to a 2fer!  I had been chasing down several contenders in the wrong direction, so yay!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 14, 2021, 09:27:23 AM
SB yesterday wouldn't take "boffin."

LB - My illegal solution was JEWEL-LITHOGRAM. Lithogram is a thing per Google but the puzzle wouldn't take it, and it isn't in the dictionary. I also spent a lot of time playing with MAHARAJA. 

On to today's...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 14, 2021, 10:01:37 AM

LB - My illegal solution was JEWEL-LITHOGRAM.


Mine, too! Grrr.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 14, 2021, 10:14:31 AM
Genius, 2fer, achieved.

"Logarithm" was a tricky one with the 3 consonants in a row. At one point logjam was a contender, b4ss.

Okay, time to fetch the old-school papers and get my puzzles on!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 14, 2021, 10:29:41 AM
I think the illegal solution should be accepted.  Congrats! Yep, the ones with consonants in a row like that can definitely be hard to spot.

Finally got to Alpha, barely, at 189.  It would be nice to have an E.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 14, 2021, 12:30:04 PM
Happy Valentine’s Day, fellow word puzzle lovers!

I clawed my way to Beta yesterday on SB before giving up.  Although I got belief, oddly, I missed nonbelief, the one pangram! 

Today’s SB is at genius, with dim hopes of getting further.  We’ll see.  I did, at least, get the pangram.  Ab_grp, congratulations on Alpha!

As for LB, I got yesterday’s “official” solution.  But I also vote to make LITHOGRAM acceptable!  Phooey on the LB judges! 

Yesterday, I got  LOGARITHM first, and then JEWEL popped out at me.  I got today’s LB with its season-appropriate theme. 


Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 14, 2021, 02:28:02 PM
Cathwen, Beta is great, and they are so inconsistent about what non- and en- words they will take, as well as what suffixes are acceptable with which roots.  It is quite irksome.  Husband and I were just talking recently about which non- words they tend to take, and they seem usually to be words in which the non- is required (e.g., nonchalant, nonillion, nonagaon, nonagonal).  Now nonbelief? I am in disbelief. ;-)

We finally gave up and compared lists so we could move on, and we still had a couple words to look up.  Missed a couple easy ones that we usually get, as well as one that is slightly more obscure, but definitely not unknown or too, too unfamiliar. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 15, 2021, 08:08:44 AM
This morning: Bee - genius. LB - 3fer. But ouch.

cath_wen, thinking about your approach from yesterday. I tend to attack the hard letters like J and W and see what emerges. You went the opposite route. So today with an X and a Z maybe that will work better?

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 15, 2021, 08:49:34 AM
Good morning!

Bee has gone pretty quickly, but I still have one four-letter word left until QB! Argh!! Husband caught up and only has one five-letter word left, so we each have each other's words but won't compare just yet.  I figure we should each be able to figure out the remaining word.  Maybe!

Rex P. again said that the crossword was harder than a typical Monday.  This time I might agree due to some of the crosses.  I think it probably took about a minute more than average Monday.  Not too bad, though once some things became evident.

Looks like some fun letters on LB, and I still have today's hard sudoku to start.

Have fun!



Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 15, 2021, 08:58:44 AM
Easy Bee fr me, too. Now to try LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 15, 2021, 09:07:02 AM
Got a 2fer just now. That was faster than expected.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 15, 2021, 09:09:03 AM
Rex P. again said that the crossword was harder than a typical Monday.  This time I might agree due to some of the crosses.  I think it probably took about a minute more than average Monday.  Not too bad, though once some things became evident.


I got thru the puzzle pretty quickly except had one wrong letter. Darn Hawaiians...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 15, 2021, 09:20:16 AM
I’m one point from Alpha on SB, but LB came pretty easily in spite of the X and Z.   

Yesterday, I actually got BUTCHER-ROMANTIC first, and then saw ROMANTIC-CHERUB, more in keeping with the Valentine’s Day theme!

Ciao_yall, congratulations on your 2-fer, and also to those who are near QB!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 15, 2021, 10:13:57 AM
Morning!

Genius, crossword and vertex done.

Back to grading.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 15, 2021, 10:46:53 AM
Congrats on all the bee progress.  Sounds like you got to QB, Parasaurolophus! I finally got my remaining word after trying all possible combos I could think of.  None of them worked, then I looked at it again and saw the pretty obvious word.  Husband also managed to get his remaining word.  Yay!

Cathwen, congrats on already getting a 2fer today and two 2fers yesterday! No progress on that front yet, but I finished the hard sudoku so will go give it a try.  It's great to be so close to Alpha.  I see QB in your future.

And congrats to ciao_yall on the quick 2fer as well!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 16, 2021, 06:26:59 AM
Morning!

Missed gavage and uvea yesterday. As for today's puzzle, made it to 211.

LB: hazelnut and toxic; today's doesn't look too bad, but haven't spent much time on it.

Happy solving, everyone.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 16, 2021, 07:15:06 AM
Morning! Also got hazelnut and toxic as well. Hit QB yesterday with some help from the comments board.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 16, 2021, 07:48:36 AM
Good morning!  So, did we all get the official answer yesterday for LB?  I did, too.  I found an answer for today's LB, but the second word seems iffy to me--however, LB accepted it, so who am I to complain. 

Ciao_yall, congratulations on QB!  I missed gavage, uvea, and uveal.  Today I'm at amazing, but have a good way to go until genius.  It's beginning to feel a little sloggy.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 16, 2021, 08:36:37 AM
Good morning!

I didn't get any solution yesterday, though I did have hazel.  That was my only z contender, most focused on x, but not toxic.  Congrats on all the 2fers yesterday and to cathwen for already getting one today!  I will take a look later.

Yesterday my final word was eave.  Geez louise.  Haven't really started today's.  You are kicking but already, Langue_doc! And congrats on being so close yesterday.  Congrats to ciao_yall as well!

Time for coffee crossword.   Hopefully I can wake up and learn to spell again.  I think I spelled 'good' wrong about 12 times above.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 16, 2021, 03:55:56 PM
I finally gave up on the bee after having gotten to 226 (~87%) and no pangram.  Husband had struggled early on, then passed me and kept on going all the way to QB hours ago.  He had to tell me the first letter of the pangram, and then I finally got it.  And I still have two words left, but he told me the first letters and how many letters each.  Not sure I will come up with them! Today is obviously not my bee day! Hopefully everyone else had better luck.

At least I did rock the sudokus with no errors and in record times for me, but they were probably easy.

I feel very close to a solution on LB so will try a little more on that.

ETA: Okay, finally got a 2fer on my 80th contender, and not the one that I thought was going to lead me to a victory.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 16, 2021, 04:48:06 PM
ab_grp, don't give up yet. Three are some compounds, and only one difficult word. We've seen most of the words in other puzzles.

Just made it to QB; the last word was a familiar one--I often miss very obvious words.

At some point I have to look at LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 16, 2021, 04:51:35 PM
Congrats on the QB, Langue_doc! Wow.  And thanks for the encouragement.  I will keep trying on the remaining two words.  Apparently one is a challenge, and husband found it by mistake (trying to type something else).  Yeek.  That might be the difficult one you're referring to.  Guess we can see tomorrow.  My hat is off to you! Good luck on the LB when you get to it.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 16, 2021, 05:20:35 PM
A couple of the compounds are irregular plurals, if that's of any help. Are the missing words long, short, or medium?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 16, 2021, 05:21:50 PM
Today:

Genius, no pangram. The official word is pangram? All this time I have been saying panagram.

2fer, but probably not official but at least some fun words.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 16, 2021, 07:23:09 PM
A couple of the compounds are irregular plurals, if that's of any help. Are the missing words long, short, or medium?

I ended up figuring them out, finally! All the help really helped! Thanks!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 17, 2021, 06:12:57 AM
Morning!

Genius on SB; didn't get around to LB last night, as I got distracted by a show on TV and then the sudokus and crosswords.

Haven't looked at LB yet. There's the crossword to complete and more words on SB.

ciao_yall, I too would alternate between panagram and pangram.

Happy solving, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 17, 2021, 07:22:08 AM
Wow, congratulations on the QB yesterday, Langue_doc and ab_grp!  I am impressed.  I got to amazing, and then got distracted by other things.  When I looked at the solution, I could see a lot of obvious words that I should have seen right away.

I'm at genius in today's SB so far, so at least there's that!

My solution for LB yesterday was LANGUOROUS-STOMPY.  Yes, I know--LB accepted stompy, but rejected lithogram?  I much prefer the "official" solution of PLUG-GASTRONOMY.  I wish I'd seen gastronomy!

My LB solution today is much more normal. 

All other puzzles are done except for the crossword.  Onward and upward...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 17, 2021, 08:11:33 AM
Good morning!

I wouldn't consider mine a pure QB yesterday, but at least I finally got linnet and beltline.  I am sure I tried them before.  Oh well.  I'm at 102 now, so four points from Alpha.  Tough puzzle again.  Definite congrats to Langue_doc!! And congrats on the geniuses so far today!

I had POLYAMOROUS-STRONG yesterday.  I was sure SYMPTOM(S) was the right track, but no cigar.  Gastronomy is a good one! Congrats on your 2fers yesterday and today, cathwen!

Did the crosswords and have to do sudoku and look at today's LB.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 17, 2021, 08:47:59 AM
SB - after hitting genius I checked in from time to time trying to come up with a pangram. Finally hit on it at 2:30 AM when it occurred to me and managed to sneak in before the puzzle changed.

LB - I got GLAMOROUS-SMARTYPANTS, which I'm sure all of us on this thread have been called from time to time. But POLYAMOROUS does sound more fun than that, even!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 17, 2021, 09:28:09 AM
SMARTYPANTS is great! I am sure I have been called a smartypants, though most likely not a glamorous one.  And congrats on getting that pangram in there in time!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 17, 2021, 11:21:05 AM
2fer and genius.

So I'm definitely a smartypants, but glamorous is more situational.


Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 17, 2021, 11:37:31 AM
1 point short of genius today, but it'll come!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 17, 2021, 11:43:04 AM
Congrats on the 2fer, ciao_yall!

I think I am one word away from QB now, so good hunting to all.  Husband managed to get to QB before heading off to work, lucky dog.

Still have to find some good contenders on LB and finish the sudokus.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 17, 2021, 05:22:50 PM
Finally got a 2fer and a slightly unpure QB!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 17, 2021, 06:36:58 PM
Two-fer finally. Alpha, but that's it for SB.

Congrats all.

Didn't realize that there was an unpure queen!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 18, 2021, 08:04:32 AM
Good morning!

Congratulations on yesterday's geniuses, Alphas, and QBs, both pure and otherwise!  I missed itty, ditty, and tali.  I'm at Beta on today's SB.  I keep seeing words that do not involve the letter D.

I got the "official" solution to LB yesterday, and have a 2-fer for today's. 

I wish I'd seen ciao_yall's SMARTYPANTS the other day! And combined with GLAMOROUS?  What could be better than a glamorous smartypants?

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 18, 2021, 08:22:56 AM
Morning!

Yesterday I got NICHE-EXPLICATOR. What is an "impure" QB?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 18, 2021, 08:27:48 AM
Morning!

LB: chronicle and expatriate--can't imagine how I missed expat.

Genius today on SB. Af for yesterday's I saw that I had missed lilt, despite having typed this word on the kindle. So I went back to the kindle, which still had yesterday's SB (minus lilt), entered lilt, and made it to QB this morning. Perhaps this was the unpure queen?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 18, 2021, 08:55:51 AM
Good morning!

Ha I just meant that I had some scaffolding to get to QB, in that I knew I was missing an L (lilt, me too!) and a D (daylit! argh!).  But I figured out what they were eventually.  So I got to QB, but not completely independently.  Maybe I should call it a polyamorous QB.  Langue_doc, sound like yours was purer than mine!

Lots of LB solutions yesterday! I finally came up with XENOPHILE-ENACTOR (I think that was the second word... I did on my phone, which doesn't save results, and my dumb computer restarted before I could try it out).  I had tried a ton of other contenders before xenophile came to mind, and then I really wanted xenophilia to get actor.  They wouldn't take it.  I tried expatriate but would not have figured out chronicle, I guess! B4ss could have had chlorine or choline or something.

I'm at Alpha today (128) but still 6 or 7 pts left, so we'll see.

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 18, 2021, 09:35:02 AM
Well, I don't think I have ever achieved QBABM, so my QB's are always... polyamorous? swinging?

Already at genius. LB lots of 3fers and a 2fer b4ss so getting warm.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 18, 2021, 09:40:31 AM
Found a nice two-fer, but there's a dangling letter all by itself, so back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 18, 2021, 12:11:23 PM
Two-fer, woohoo.

Still barely into genius. Gamma genius?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 18, 2021, 12:12:11 PM
Managed to figure out my remaining bee word, so a clean QB.  I happened upon it and was startled, didn't know what it was, but it is in the database, so I guess we've come across it at least once.

A couple contenders on the LB, no matches yet.  At least I got the sudokus completed reasonably well.  I forgot to mention yesterday that I chatted with the NYT to see if they have any sudoku archive or solutions available, but apparently not.  The puzzles are removed from their servers after 24 hours.  I didn't ask about the bee or LB because the chat was taking too long, but it might be the same for those puzzles, too.

On preview: hooray, ciao_yall!!

ETA: I totally missed cathwen's earlier 2fer.  Congratulations!! And it sounds like Langue_doc is close as well!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 18, 2021, 12:19:38 PM
Turns out I'm almost at Alpha, so maybe I'll join the orgy on the NYT comments board.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 19, 2021, 06:33:02 AM
Morning!

LB: contorting/gadfly; wouldn't have thought of dingo as I was looking for participles. I did find an interesting word, but can't remember what it was as I didn't write it down.

QB on SB; I remembered pandit from an earlier puzzle; found dapping by playing around with the letters--haven't a clue as to its meaning.

Crossword: NE corner is blank.

Happy solving! Stay warm and don't slip on the ice.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 19, 2021, 08:18:01 AM
Good morning!

Congrats on your 2fer, Langue_doc! I like yours better than the official solution.  I was not able to come up with one myself despite a lot of effort! I though gyrator might get me somewhere, trying to keep the Y in the middle.  Nope.

From yesterday's bee, pandit was my final word.  I guess we've had it before, but it's one I wouldn't have remembered, just hit on the letters trying to mess around with pundit.  And I have no idea what dapping is, either.  Something to do with fishing? Whatever.

Today I'm at 318 with a bit to go for Alpha and a long time until QB, if that happens. 

Good luck with the crossword.  I had a hard time with it for a bit but ended up getting there eventually.

Happy solving! Yes, those of you in icy areas, please stay safe and warm!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 19, 2021, 08:44:43 AM
You're ahead of me, as usual, ab_grp. I'm up to 293, and don't think I'll get to QB. Is there more than one pangram today?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 19, 2021, 08:47:00 AM
I did find a second pangram, so if you find that you will be well on your way! There are a couple words that have dogged me in the past that I have found this time, but I'm sure there are a bunch I won't.  Who knows, there may be a third pangram with all these points left. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 19, 2021, 08:51:49 AM
SB - found everything but pandit.

Now at amazing with only one pangram so far but first cup of coffee is still hot.

LB - confidant-trilogy.

Now - 3fers with odd little words tying them together so the 2fer is close.

Happy solving, all you smartypants-es!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 19, 2021, 08:52:39 AM
Good morning, all!

So yesterday we have another LB with several solutions.  I got CONTRADICTING-GADFLY.   I found a 2-fer for today's, but it took more time than usual.

Congratulations on the QBs!  I didn't get there—I missed dapping, pandit, and something else I can't remember. 

Ab_grp, you are way ahead of me on today's SB!  I'm at 242 and will be delighted to make genius. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 19, 2021, 09:05:19 AM
Still 100 short of genius, but I think I can make it!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 19, 2021, 10:21:59 AM
Genius, 2 pangrams.

LB - 3fers coming out of my ears still. Some good words but still haven't tied them all together. I screenshot all my 3fers and 2fers b4ss and review them, so maybe I'll check those and see if there is a pattern emerging.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 19, 2021, 10:36:33 AM
Congrats on your 2fer today, cathwen! Sounds as though it may be more of a challenge than usual.  And I hope ciao_yall is able to make the odds and ends work together!

I got past Alpha to 337 so far, still a ways to go for QB.  It is a long puzzle, but there are only a few words that are a bit obscure so far, and I think they have all been in the bee before (some recently...).  Good luck to us all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 19, 2021, 05:02:31 PM
2fer. Yay.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 19, 2021, 10:05:56 PM
Oof, got there in the end. Bit of a slog!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 20, 2021, 07:55:06 AM
SB - missed gigolo and longan (argh, after all the drama about that one from last week!)

LB - got fortieth-hydrangea. Never did find any of the words from the official solution.

On to today's...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 20, 2021, 08:01:44 AM
Good morning!

Congrats on the 2fer, ciao_yall! After about a thousand reasonable contenders, I found hydrangea in the evening but could not get a mate.  Was not near the schmofficial solution.  I am partial to yours!

Congrats, Parasarurolophus! Did you get to QB? It was a slog, for sure. 

Husband and I both got to Alpha so finally compared in the hopes that we could get a team QB.  Nope.  He gave me lain (really?!), glia, glial, and I gave him a couple longer words I forget, but we could not get galangal.  Argh.  And I was determined not to miss longan again after all the times it has bitten me.  Why do they have lanai in there but not loggia?

Today I am at 229, so still not Alpha for a bit but might get there.  Finally got a pangram!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 20, 2021, 08:28:33 AM
Glia and glial indeed. Reached genius, but no pangram yet.There's still the crossword to complete before 6.

Didn't have the time or energy to work on puzzles yesterday. The sun's out today, and it's going to be warmer which means that I'll be able to get the car out without having to shovel or extricate it from the icy street by Monday or Tuesday.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 20, 2021, 08:36:44 AM
Found a great word on LB which uses almost all the letters, but alas, only yields a 3fer.

I would post this under "very exciting posts" but nobody on that thread would understand.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 20, 2021, 10:36:54 AM
Found a great word on LB which uses almost all the letters, but alas, only yields a 3fer.

I would post this under "very exciting posts" but nobody on that thread would understand.

Maybe you can still make the word work! I tried a couple contenders and finally managed a 2fer (but not with one word that used up nearly all the letters).

Up to 240 now, still not at Alpha.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 20, 2021, 11:42:05 AM
Found a great word on LB which uses almost all the letters, but alas, only yields a 3fer.

I would post this under "very exciting posts" but nobody on that thread would understand.

I hear you. Try posting anyway, and see what responses you get.

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Maybe you can still make the word work! I tried a couple contenders and finally managed a 2fer (but not with one word that used up nearly all the letters).

Up to 240 now, still not at Alpha.


Congrats! I made it to 259 (a few compounds), but that's going to be it for SB and LB as I still have the SE corner of the crossword to complete.

ETA: That number was for another date, and on the laptop. Today's number is 248.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 20, 2021, 12:08:03 PM
Genius, still no panagram.

Lots of 3fers and b4ss 2fers so should get there soon.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 20, 2021, 12:47:03 PM
Langue_doc, I think you're just a point from Alpha! I finally got to 262, so 8 more points to QB.  I will keep trying off and on.  As for the crossword, the NW was my last get. 

Ciao_yall, it took me a while to get the pangram.  I just happened to pick up my phone and saw it at some point.  Not too long ago, the pangram was my actual primary field of research, and I did not get that one until after genius! And good luck with the LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 20, 2021, 03:01:16 PM


Congrats, Parasarurolophus! Did you get to QB? It was a slog, for sure. 



Lord, no! Way beyond my puzzle grade!


Today, I'm 4 short of genius but haven't found the pangram yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 20, 2021, 03:16:34 PM
Well, yesterday's was definitely a long haul, so congrats! And good luck with today's!

I have managed to get to one freaking point from QB.  Have now tried every single four-letter word I could think of, plus plenty of random ones pretty systematically entered, and still no luck.  I even have some obscure words that tend to emerge only in the bee.  Husband, on the other hand, is having a rough time of it today.  But, inspiration can still kick in! Maybe it's one of those things where I have to pretend not to pay attention and then quickly turn to surprise the bee and hope that the word has foolishly come out of hiding.  I might try that, though I'm not sure I want to gamble on pulling a neck muscle given that I am too old for these shenanigans.

But, I still have not come near finishing today's hard sudoku, and tomorrow's are out now!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 20, 2021, 03:57:12 PM
Congratulations on everyone's successes.  I am having a miserable time today!  SB is barely at genius, and I don't have a 2-fer for LB—although lots of good words, including one that leaves only two letters to be dealt with, but I can't find a place for them!  Groan.  Well, you win a few, you lose a few.  At least I solved the sudokus without much trouble.

Ab_grp, I hope you get your QB! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 20, 2021, 04:13:57 PM
Thanks, cathwen.  We'll see.  There aren't that many possible combos of 4 letters that are allowed, so it seems as though given the time I could eventually find it.  Good luck! Maybe you and ciao_yall have the same really long contender.  I feel as though a 2fer is around the corner for you.  And congrats on the sudokus!

I was actually just musing on this idea that there are some days I'm good at some of the puzzles, and some days others of the puzzles, but I can't recall having a day on which I got QB (or met some bee goal that felt satisfying), 2fer, and solved all the sudokus.  Today I had good luck with the bee and LB, but sudoku stumped me.  Earlier in the week, I was conquering the sudokus each day but not necessarily getting as far as I wanted to in the bee or getting 2fers. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 20, 2021, 05:33:25 PM
SB - genius, then found pangram and putting a bow on it. Looks like the Comments board has already shifted to the Sunday puzzle so I'd have to do some digging to find the hivemind for Saturday.

LB - got a 2fer. Not with my long contender that is probably the same as cathwen's (B and T)? Probably not official as it does reuse a few letters but still declaring victory.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 20, 2021, 08:58:49 PM
Found the bugger!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 21, 2021, 06:53:25 AM
Congratulations, Parasaurolophus, on finding that elusive pangram!

Today has started out better than yesterday in that I'm at genius on SB. Not sure how much further I'll get, so we'll see.

I haven't found a 2-fer for today's LB yet.  Yesterday was frustrating--I had BIOMETRICIAN, with H and W left over.  I also had WATCHMEN, but did not see RAINBOW!  Argh!

Ab_grp, I know what you mean about good and bad puzzle days.  Some days it just comes, other days not.  And I'm usually better at LB than SB.  On SB, I usually get to genius, but have trouble getting too far beyond that. You and Langue_doc seem to get QB on a regular basis!

Well, back to LB!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 21, 2021, 08:41:26 AM
SB - woke up in the middle of the night and achieved genius already.

LB - Got the official solution of RAINBOW-WATCHMEN. I also had CHAIRWOMEN which left the B and the T. In the past it has taken TABAC which would have completed the 2fer, alas, b4ss.

Already have some 3fers using odd little words to use up tricky letters so home to see the 2fer today.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 21, 2021, 09:10:49 AM
Morning all, and congrats on the achievements/accomplishments.

SB--missed a few words yesterday: odea?? odeon? I usually miss donee, so this didn't surprise me. Made it to slightly above genius today; the pangram wasn't too difficult.

Found a few contenders for LB, with just one dangling letter. This gives me hope, so will work on it. Crosswords are done. I like today's tiles, so will be spending some time playing with it.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 21, 2021, 09:24:41 AM
Yay, Parasaurolophus! And yay on getting to genius during the night, ciao_yall.  If I tried to do that, I'd be up all night thinking about it.  I already dream of puzzles, just random not-real ones. 

And congrats on the 2fers yesterday! I got RAINBOW-WATCHMEN.  I have noticed that some words keep popping out to me in multiple puzzles (e.g., browbeaten).  Maybe it's kind of a Rorschach test of sorts.  Get it, Watchmen? Lololol I am already on fire today with the wit.  Watch out, world.

Finally got QB just before we started dinner last night.  Odea was the odious straggler.  I got odeon earlier because it appears sometimes in the bee and crossword and always manages to elude me, so maybe odea should have occurred to me earlier, but no go.  I think the compound words were some of the last I got, so thanks to Langue_doc for mentioning that there were several.  I'm at Alpha so far today (131) but need a break from it.  Looks like only one pangram.

Good luck on all the puzzles, and happy Sunday!



Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 21, 2021, 12:19:22 PM
Found a two-fer after a gap of some days (or so it seems). I'm probably near Alpha, and that's it for today's puzzles.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 21, 2021, 12:27:00 PM
I finally got a 2-fer for today's LB, but it took a lot of time.   I am at Alpha on SB, with two words until QB, but I don't think I'll get there.  I cannot imagine what they could be.  I'll keep trying...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 21, 2021, 01:26:21 PM
Congrats on the Alpha and near Alpha, cathwen and Langue_doc! I was able to get 3 more words since last report but am still 6 or 7 points from QB.  I suspect my husband has the word I need given our point and word totals, so we are holding off but will likely have to just go ahead and compare lists a little later on.

And congrats to you both on the 2fers! No luck there on my end.  I have one contender so far. 

Still working on hard sudoku from yesterday, today's was a little too easy which meant a lot of backtracking and things I'll have to work forward on again, and the next ones will come out soon enough.  I've been stuck Duolingoing since it's Sunday funday (end of weekly tournament).  Still have some real work reading to do at some point.  I think puzzle solvers should get extra hours in their days.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 21, 2021, 06:50:42 PM
Finally gave up and went to the online solver helper. Didn't have either word, even in my contenders. Not sure if it's the official solution but whatever.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 22, 2021, 06:09:54 AM
Good morning, everyone!

I came close yesterday on SB—I missed biaxial (which I should have tried) and lobo, which I usually get.  QB—so near, and yet so far!  Today I’m at Beta.  It’s a strange group of letters.

My LB words yesterday were  BRAVO-OUTCHARMED, official answer OUTMATCHED. (I was surprised that LB accepted outcharmed.)   It took a lot of time to find yesterday’s words, but today’s LB 2-fer came relatively easily, and they’re normal words.

Ab_grp, did you find your remaining SB words?  And which language are you studying on Duolingo?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 22, 2021, 06:27:48 AM
Morning!

Missed bollix and bola. As for today, found the pangram and have made it to 93 points.

LB: bravado and outmatched; haven't looked at today's puzzle yet.

Happy solving, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 22, 2021, 08:08:16 AM
Easy Bee today! Now for LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 22, 2021, 08:30:15 AM
Quick LB today. Yesterday I thought they were doing something with the O and found ORCHARD but never found a 2fer mate on either side. Did find CHARMED, MARCHED, MATCHED... played with OUT-something but somehow my brain didn't make the connection.

SB off to a quick start. Genius.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 22, 2021, 08:45:40 AM
Good morning!

Glad to hear today's LB is easy.  Maybe I'll have some luck with it.  BRAVADO was my first contender of a bunch, but no luck.  Congrats! I also tried ORCHARD, ciao_yall.  And tried CHATBOT since that seemed quirky enough for a solution.

We ended up comparing, and we were missing BOLLIX.  Stupid, since we discussed that we had both tried BOLLOX, and I had looked it up and found it to be a variant of bollocks.  But no mention of the accepted spelling.  Oh well, we were close and both got to Alpha, so fine.  Husband was also missing LAMB, which was funny because we just had some the day before.  Funny what you see or don't.  Sounds like we all did very well, considering!

Today I'm at 95, so close to Alpha but haven't really had time to do much more with it.  Congrats Parasaurolophus!

Cathwen, I'm in Spanish for Duolingo.  Do you use it, too?
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 22, 2021, 10:29:21 AM
Well, I got to QB kind of all of a sudden.  Guess I have more time to work on LB and perhaps solve today's hard sudoku and the one I still have hanging over my head from a couple days ago.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 22, 2021, 10:49:40 AM
Congratulations on QB, ab_grp!  I am one word away from QB, and it's driving me nuts trying to find that last word.  It's a one-pointer, so it must be four letters; I've tried every combination I can think of, but apparently I have to think a little harder! 

As for Duolingo, I've sent you a PM so as not to derail this thread.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 22, 2021, 12:00:13 PM
Congrats all. Am queen for today, and also found the/a two-fer. There's just one weird word in the bee. The short words are all familiar ones.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 22, 2021, 12:39:32 PM
Congrats, Langue_doc, on QB and 2fer!

And congrats to you also, cathwen.   You're nearly there (if you haven't found it yet).  I agree with Langue_doc that there aren't too many (if any) really obscure words.  I might be able to guess which word you are missing.  Maybe.  There are a couple that could be tougher for different reasons.  Good luck!!  Hope the dissertation-length response to the PM is helpful.

Still no 2fer for me, though I have come up with a few reasonable contenders.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 22, 2021, 03:36:48 PM
Ya-hoo!  I finally made QB!  And you were right, it was a very common word that for some reason my brain failed to put together for a good while.

Thanks for your PM, ab_grp.  Your answer was very helpful.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 22, 2021, 07:16:42 PM
Muchos congratulatos on your QB, cathwen! Glad to help, and as you can plainly see, I am just killing it in Spanish.  Interested to hear everyone's final words! Wow, that sounds more morbid than I intended.

No LB victory yet, though I will look at it a bit tonight.  I did manage to solve the hard sudoku today and took a different approach and solved the one I was dealing with from a few days ago.  Not using the cell the hint told me to focus on, again!

ETA: finally got a 2fer!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 22, 2021, 07:54:22 PM
ab_grp, spoiler alert below re LB.

Your duolingo made me think of the hint: the first word, plural, falls under this topic, and the second is a bird.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 22, 2021, 08:35:27 PM
Langue_doc, I think I got a different 2fer! Now I want to know what yours is so will try to work it out!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 22, 2021, 08:43:48 PM
Sending PM.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 22, 2021, 09:38:56 PM
Thanks for the PM! I forgot to say I was working off a different bird but hadn’t gotten a first word mate from it yet so was maybe headed in a wrong direction. Also my hints for my solution were terrible and sent from my phone.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 23, 2021, 05:49:32 AM
ab_grp, your words wouldn't have occurred to me.

For the record, mine were cognates and skylark, which are quite different from the words in the "solution".

As for SB, my first word was the pangram--woohoo! I'm now at 123 points.

Happy solving, all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 23, 2021, 07:25:28 AM
LB - I had LOCKS-STRANGELY yesterday. Already have a 2fer this morning.

SB - slow start. No pangram yet... wow you are a fast crowd! ETA: Panagram. Still at amazing. But I'll get there.

Looks like we all wiped the floor with the puzzles yesterday. Bring it on, NYT!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 23, 2021, 09:12:24 AM
I like COGNATES-SKYLARK the best so far, Langue_doc! Your hint about the bird led me to GRACKLE, but I didn't get further with that.  Mine was close to ciao_yall's, KNOCKS-STRANGELY.  The schmofficial solution did not occur to me at all.  I thought ROCKETRY might do something, but it didn't pan out.

Today's bee seems kind of tough so far.  I got the pangram and to a bit above genius (137), but not to Alpha yet and am now struggling.

Time to go take a look at today's LB and sudokus.  Congrats on the early 2fer, ciao_yall! Good luck, all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 23, 2021, 02:34:25 PM
Still stuck on the bee at 137. But got two two-fers, all common words. There are probably other pairs today.

I did get grackle yesterday, but couldn't find a mate. There's a bird in today's puzzle too.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 23, 2021, 02:43:08 PM
My LB words yesterday were GRACKLES-STONY.  My, what a variety of solutions this time!

I found today’s LB harder, but finally found a 2-fer.  Langue_doc, congratulations on not one, but two 2-fers!

I'm just a few points beyond genius today on SB.  I don't think I have the energy to pursue higher goals, though.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 23, 2021, 02:56:59 PM
Congrats on the 2fers, Langue_doc and cathwen! Langue_doc, your hint led me to a 2fer, so thanks.  I will see if I can find some more.

I haven't gotten any further with the bee, but husband had to go on site today and is back now, so we will get back to it independently and then see if comparing lists would be the best bet.  I know we have some different words, which always makes me want to try to figure out what he has that I don't, but I have made no progress! Maybe this time will be the charm.  It is kind of a draining puzzle today for whatever reason.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 23, 2021, 04:48:16 PM
Unexciting update: I am now trying for an impure Alpha.  We ended up comparing #s of words starting with each letter to see what we were each missing, and we now have the same number of points and words.  Still two points from Alpha! Gee whiz.  I think we will have to compare lists and then might have to look up the answers at some point.

I do have a couple additional LB contenders I'm working with to try for another 2fer since I am frustrated with the bee.  Not sure if any mates will come along, though.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 24, 2021, 06:19:02 AM
Morning!

SB was disappointing; partita? irrupt? I should have found pipit and rattrap, but didn't. Oh, well.

Made it to genius today, but no pangram.

I came up with blackboard/diagrams, blackbird/dogmas, and eventually blackbirds/smog.

Happy solving, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 24, 2021, 06:50:50 AM
Good morning!  I also had blackboard-diagram yesterday.  I thought today's LB was more challenging than usual, but I finally found a 2-fer.

On yesterday’s SB, I missed irrupt and partita, as well as pipit, rattrap apparat, and papyri. 

I just got to Alpha on today’s SB, but not at all confident I'll make QB. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 24, 2021, 06:56:47 AM
SB - rattrap was what put me into genius, then I went off onto other things. After a while the odd words start to feel like a guessing game.

LB - I had blackbirds-smog which was the official solution. Is this what it's like to be vibing with the NYT?

Haven't started today's yet, but happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 24, 2021, 08:46:17 AM
Good morning!

Good news first: I just got to QB.  It was a strange path.  I was really struggling even to get to genius, got there but no pangram, then stuff started coming and whammo.  Good luck! Nothing too tough or unfamiliar in there, I think. 

We ended up comparing yesterday, still no luck, and found out we had missed partita, pipit, and irrupt.  Not too sorry about that.  I concede defeat to that puzzle.

Thanks to Langue_doc, I got the BLACKBIRD-DOGMAS pair.  I found SMORGASBORD and thought that might lead somewhere but couldn't find a mate.

Congrats on all the 2fers yesterday and to cathwen for already getting one today!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 24, 2021, 12:15:23 PM
Congratulations on QB, ab_grp! 

I also made QB today!  Woo-hoo! 



Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 24, 2021, 12:51:07 PM
Congratulations, cathwen!!

Predictably, I am now suffering at the hands of the other daily puzzles.  At least I have a few LB contenders and managed to (eventually) solve the medium sudoku.  Haven't tried hard yet.  Wish I didn't have a 1.5 hr call scheduled this afternoon.  Priorities!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 24, 2021, 03:37:47 PM
Good morning!

Good news first: I just got to QB.  It was a strange path.  I was really struggling even to get to genius, got there but no pangram, then stuff started coming and whammo.  Good luck! Nothing too tough or unfamiliar in there, I think. 


Thanks, ab_grp, for the above. I persevered, making it to QB. I kept trying archillian, but no luck.

Congrats y'all QBs and two-fers. I'm still stuck in LB.

Aargh for autocorrect. Just saw that Sarah (damn autocorrect--that was 'aargh', not Sarah or earth). I give up, it's beyond frustrating typing on the Kindle.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 24, 2021, 03:53:22 PM
Woohoo! Congrats, Langue_doc.  I had to play around for a while to get the pangram.  I thought I was on the right track with two different roots, and it ended up that I was with the one, but I needed a little more work on it.  My final word was kind of dumb, considering, but that's the way the bee buzzes.  And I get the frustration with the Kindle typing.  It's why I don't post much in the evenings when I'm on my phone!

No luck for me in LB yet either, and my call has delayed my starting the hard sudoku, plus I still need to Duolingo.  I will probably alternate between LB and Spanish and save the sudoku for tomorrow when I can take my time and enjoy it more.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 25, 2021, 04:55:09 AM
Morning!

113 today on the bee, all familiar words. My last word yesterday was 'archaic', a word I should have found earlier as I've been using all week. LB--misjudge and exact.

ab_grp, you got me interested in Duolingo. Progress so far: I know the list of languages on their website. The part I hate most in any program: coming up with a username and a password.

Happy solving, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 25, 2021, 07:15:43 AM
Morning! Looks like everyone is off to a running start!

Yesterday wasn't coming together for me, so with a little help I achieved genius and a 2fer.

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 25, 2021, 08:47:24 AM
Congratulations on getting so far on today’s SB, Langue_doc!  I'm a little beyond genius but below Beta. 

But today’s LB is not coming along very well at all!  Yesterday I got the "official" answer, but today I am flummoxed. At least, so far!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 25, 2021, 09:12:26 AM
Good morning!

I'm at 133 today, so I'm close to Alpha but not there yet.  Chai was my last word yesterday.  I kept thinking maybe there was something with arachn- but no.  But anarch- finally worked out. 

Congrats on the 2fers yesterday! I was not close.  I thought about JUDGE later in the evening but didn't get further with it.  I am not optimistic about today's if cathwen is having trouble with it!

Hope you enjoy Duolingo, Langue_doc.  I picked my username five years ago and cannot remember why I chose it. 

Still have to do hard sudoku from yesterday and then today's.

Have fun!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 25, 2021, 12:35:11 PM
Just an update to say that I have not found even one more word since this morning.  Still two points from Alpha! Husband came from behind and passed me and is now at 140, so there is hope.  Has any one else had any luck?

Still making feeble attempts at the LB, but no success there yet.  All the b4ss issues...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 25, 2021, 01:28:38 PM
Sorry to hear that you are stuck, ab_grp. There are three or so compound-type words (one, a medical term), one that looks like a proper noun, but is a music-related common noun, and one that is a variation, spelling-wise of another word. It's a solid 150 points today. Good luck, hope you've found a few more words by now.

I don't think I'll make the LB today--a three-fer, bah!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 25, 2021, 01:48:34 PM
Congrats on the QB, Langue_doc! And thanks for the tips.  I will keep at it! I only have one compound word so far.  Hopefully your clues will help! And good luck if you stay with LB.  Wondering if anyone has any luck there...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 25, 2021, 02:58:26 PM
Update: success! Thank you, Langue_doc! It turned out that I just needed two longish words, and one of your hints got me to the longer of the two.  The other one had a similarity to that one, and I worked out from another of your hints and knowing the first letter after husband and I compared # of words with same first letter.  So you helped us both to get to QB, though impurely.  Still, yay! Thanks again!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 25, 2021, 03:07:15 PM
Update: success! Thank you, Langue_doc! It turned out that I just needed two longish words, and one of your hints got me to the longer of the two.  The other one had a similarity to that one, and I worked out from another of your hints and knowing the first letter after husband and I compared # of words with same first letter.  So you helped us both to get to QB, though impurely.  Still, yay! Thanks again!

Woohoo! Congrats. I'm on the Kindle, so have to be frugal with words because of autocorrect.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 25, 2021, 03:47:36 PM
SB - Just barely tipped into genius. Kept wanting to try and abbreviated word and finally got a hint from the Crossword Orgy to try the full word. Oy.

LB - Got it. PM if you want a hint. Am watching the Zoom of our Board of Trustees meeting and trying to get a COVID vaccine appointment so not going anywhere.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 25, 2021, 05:20:15 PM
Congrats on your 2fer, ciao_yall! Thanks for the very helpful hints!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 25, 2021, 05:51:27 PM
Congratulations on the QBs!  I ended up just a little beyond Beta and then lost patience.

But I finally found a 2-fer for today's LB.  Not an easy one today!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 25, 2021, 07:14:58 PM
Congrats on the 2fer, cathwen! My bee level was Beta as well.  Without help, I wouldn't have gotten to Alpha and then QB, and I wouldn't have gotten a 2fer.  Some days, I tell ya.  Tomorrow has the potential to be a different one, at least! Of course, I could be kicking myself in the future for having said that.  Different is not always better...!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 26, 2021, 03:50:41 AM
Morning!

Pure or impure, they're all victories.

LB words: gauzes/sunflower. As for today, I found the two-fer almost an hour ago. I've been up early for no particular reason, so got cracking on the puzzles.

SB: 90 points; last word yesterday was 'largo' which I remembered from an earlier puzzle. I found 'logogram' by playing with the letters. Today's words are ones that are used frequently--even more frequently than some of the words in yesterday's puzzle.

Happy solving, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 26, 2021, 07:00:26 AM
I can never remember 'aurora'.

Easy Bee today, though. On to LB!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 26, 2021, 07:21:42 AM
Morning!

SB - went back up into the Crossword Orgy and achieved alpha. Despite their best hints I still missed largo and logogram or would have had QB.

LB - gazes-sunflower. Kind of a boring one. I had some fun words - wrangle, zealous, but twas not to be. Alas.

Last night our college Board meeting ran late, so at midnight the new SB came up and I'm already at genius. LB I have a 3fer. Now I'm up early for a hiring committee so while I wait for everyone to drone on I'll have puzzle time.

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 26, 2021, 07:24:45 AM
Whelp, got the 2fer in LB almost immediately, then immediately saw a variant 2fer. Easy-peasy!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 26, 2021, 07:31:32 AM
Parasaurolophus, I also missed aurora yesterday.  I have on several occasions mentioned bonking myself on the head with a dictionary, and this was one of them.  The one comfort is that the freedom of the world does not rest on our ability to solve word puzzles!  : )

Congratulations on Alpha, ciao-yall! 

Today I’m at Beta on SB (90 points).  I’m in my usual quandary of wondering what other words there could possibly be!  18 points until QB, and doubtful I’ll get there.

Yesterday I had gauzes-sunflower for LB.  And I found a 2-fer today. 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 26, 2021, 07:55:52 AM
2fer. Woohoo. Guess I'll have to pay attention in my hiring committee after all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 26, 2021, 08:53:28 AM
Good morning!

Wow, lots of success already! Congrats on all the 2fers!  And congrats to Parasaurolophus on QB?

I was missing mammogram and logogram yesterday.  Langue_doc's hints helped me to get both.  Thanks again!

Today I think I might be one word from QB, at 103.  Hopefully more coffee and a banana will help.  I suspect husband and I have what each other needs given total words achieved, but it's way too early in the day to compare.  So far no tough words that I can recall, except one that has been in the bee a bit and another that I tried that I wasn't quite sure was a word.  Suffixes are helpful.

Still have to finish crossword, try LB, sudokus... lots of fun ahead.  Happy solving!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 26, 2021, 08:57:15 AM
Wow, lots of success already! Congrats on all the 2fers!  And congrats to Parasaurolophus on QB?



Oh no, just the Beta for me! Sorry I was unclear. I meant that I got to genius quickly and easily. But getting to QB looks like it'll be tough for me.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 26, 2021, 09:15:00 AM
Wow, lots of success already! Congrats on all the 2fers!  And congrats to Parasaurolophus on QB?



Oh no, just the Beta for me! Sorry I was unclear. I meant that I got to genius quickly and easily. But getting to QB looks like it'll be tough for me.

Well, that's still awesome.  I will consider it a prophecy: I see QB in your future today.  You are on a roll with the bee and kicking butt on LB!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 26, 2021, 11:16:44 AM
'baobab', the nemesis of my SB, has gone mainstream. Last night I saw the word in large letters on a TV commercial, probably for a lotion or something similar (I usually mute commercials). The commercial, and the word, appeared at least twice during the show, which was sort of a cop/crime show.

Now I have to decompress from the trips to grocery stores (three separate ones--25 miles apart, the joys of ethnic neighborhoods and stores. There's usually at least one person breathing down my neck while I'm at the register at the regular grocery store, who I have to loudly and pointedly ask to step back. The cashier was sympathetic, but couldn't do anything. The woman did step back once I confronted her.

I think I made it to 98 or 99 this morning.

Sounds as though everyone has something to celebrate puzzle-wise.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 26, 2021, 01:00:06 PM
That's funny about baobab! I recently realized it is in some of my hair goo.  Not sure if that will help me remember it in the future, though.  Hope you can recover from your shopping trips.  That sounds un-fun and anxiety-inducing.

Husband and I realized that we probably had the same list after he acquired two more four-letter words that I had, and we had no idea on going forward, so we gave up.  Missed a five-letter that I'm not too sorry about but that we may have gotten eventually.  At least it gave me a chance to update my database, remove duplicates, and alphabetize to make the program run a little faster in the future.

Victorious on sudokus, loads of seemingly good contenders on the LB but no mate so far.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 26, 2021, 02:47:36 PM
Thanks for letting me vent, ab_grp. I managed to find a parking spot (metered street parking) after the long drive, and also found what I needed in the usual grocery store, so can't complain, especially if Ben & Jerry's is on sale.

I think I need just one more word for SB, but don't have any energy to continue.

I am sending you a hint for LB; please check your PM.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 26, 2021, 03:04:03 PM
Thanks for the hints, Langue_doc! Success! I included some hints in my reply for what I thought your missing bee word might be (it was ours, at least), in case you are interested.  Beeware! ha.  Enjoy your Ben & Jerry's! I haven't had that in a while but liked Chubby Hubby a lot.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 26, 2021, 04:14:12 PM
Thanks, ab_grp for your hint. I am now a pure Alpha and an impure Queen. Hah! What a word--I might not have found it tonight, but vaguely recall having seen it on an earlier puzzle.

As for baobab, I think it was in a Pantene commercial. I still have to look up the spelling for this word and also for bonobo.

On to tomorrow's crosswords which come out at 10 tonight.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 26, 2021, 04:34:36 PM
You're welcome! I figured that word was a reasonable guess.  As for the baobab, I don't recall hearing much about that as an ingredient before, so maybe there is some sort of trend.  It's the meyer lemon, fiddlehead fern, or ramps of haircare.   I guess birria tacos are more the "it" food these days.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 26, 2021, 04:55:53 PM
I'm still two words short of QB, but probably unfocusing my eyes at the end of the day will yield them. There's a four-letter word (how?!) and a five-letter (probably the same as yours, ab_grp).
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 26, 2021, 07:27:21 PM
Some stuff headed in your direction...
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 27, 2021, 06:21:32 AM
Morning!

Made it to genius today. There's probably a second pangram lurking somewhere.

LB preamble/equality.

Happy solving.

ETA two-fer today, an easy one
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 27, 2021, 07:15:48 AM
Good morning!

Just got into the bee while brushing teeth, so I'm at 140 with coffee on the way.  One pangram down, but I will keep an eye out for possible others.  Especially with the number of points!

Thanks again for the LB help, Langue_doc! And congrats on your 2fer today!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 27, 2021, 08:08:17 AM
LB - preamble-equity. Why do it sometimes seem that the LB folks are sending messages? 3fers but 2fer is close I can feel it.

SB - Genius this morning already. Yesterday I thought I got "glug" but it wasn't checked.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 27, 2021, 08:13:16 AM
It did kind of seem like a message! I was also hoping to get somewhere with reliquary yesterday.  Good luck with the 2fer! I think husband initially missed glug.  Our final missing word was butyl.

Coffee seemed to help a bit.  I'm at 227 now, so Alpha, but not sure about QB.  Still sudokus to do and LB to try.

ETA: I have not found a second pangram and only have about 19 points left.  There could be one, still.  I thought I had found one, but it wasn't accepted.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 27, 2021, 09:23:08 AM
Grr, 'butyl'. It was all I had left for QB.

Made it to genius today, will try to work up to QB again. Haven't looked at LB yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 27, 2021, 10:44:23 AM
Sorry butyl managed to elude you, Parasaurolophus! Good luck on the bee today!

I made a little more progress, now at 239.  So 6 or 7 points left? No additional pangrams were identified.  Did get all the sudokus completed successfully.  No LB contenders yet, but I will work on that for a bit now.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 27, 2021, 12:36:27 PM
Update: Got to QB! Husband still has one word to go.  Good luck!

I still have to try to make some headway on LB.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 27, 2021, 12:44:42 PM
I missed butyl and tutti yesterday.  I tried glug, but it didn’t “take” at first—maybe I mistyped?  Then later I tried again, and it was accepted. 

 I'm at genius on today's SB.  I’ll keep trying for more.  According to nytbee.com, there is only one pangram despite the high point value—maximum 245!!  Congratulations to those who are already at Alpha!  And a special congratulations to ab_grp for making QB!  Woo-hoo!

LB:  Yesterday I got preamble-equality.  And I found a 2-fer today. 

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 27, 2021, 01:34:37 PM
They're all easily recognizable words today--no butyl, baobab, or similar torture-inducing words. As ciao_yall and cathwen mentioned, often words that you thought were accepted turned out not to have been entered by the program. I had to spend almost half an hour to track the last three missing words which turned out to be words that I had entered on the kindle, but had disappeared. It was only after I went through the list on my computer that I realized that these words didn't show up and that I had actually found all the words. I found the puzzle a bit difficult as it took me a long time to find today's words despite their familiarity.

Congrats on the two-fers and  QB, and good luck getting to be Queen. It's only 47 words.

ab_grp, thanks for the pangram information. It helped me plod on. LB words are easy ones, easier than yesterday's 'preamble'.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 27, 2021, 01:35:29 PM
I have a 2fer today but I don't think it's the official one. Oh well, it counts and I'm keeping it. Strange compound word, but it only reuses the "E" so it's pretty clean.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 27, 2021, 01:39:43 PM
Who gets to decide that grackles/stony is more official than locks/strangely or cognates/skylark? Not the NYT, in mho.

I have a 2fer today but I don't think it's the official one. Oh well, it counts and I'm keeping it. Strange compound word, but it only reuses the "E" so it's pretty clean.

Mine's a different word--a very common compound word, one that we're all familiar with.

ETA Responding to ciao_yall

Quote
I don't even know what a "grackle" is.

It's a rather noisy unprepossessing bird, quite common in Central Park and other parks in NYC. https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Common_Grackle/id
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 27, 2021, 01:42:13 PM
I don't even know what a "grackle" is.

Today I was annoyed with the Bee because it took certain foreign words that I never use. But not another that is, while maybe not an everyday word, actually shows up on restaurant menus.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 27, 2021, 03:06:15 PM
Based on what ciao_yall wrote, I think I may have the same LB solution.

I'm at Alpha on SB, with three words and 8 points to go until QB.  Probably won’t make it, as I'm running out of time and patience.  But I'm happy enough with Alpha.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 27, 2021, 03:20:01 PM
I can't wait until tomorrow's big reveal!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 27, 2021, 03:23:40 PM
Congrats on the QB, Langue_doc! I agree, no real difficult words.  One is a word I have often missed in the past, and then I had a good string of times when I didn't, but I almost missed it today.  I will send bee energy to all those still working in case it helps! Sounds like cathwen just needs a 6 and two 4s? Maybe the 6 is my final word (or could be the one I just referred to).  I am a little miffed that a possible pangram was denied despite being in the dictionary but will hold off on shaming it here today because it is related to another word in the puzzle.  Good luck!

Congrats on the 2fers to all three of you! Now please send me your LB energy or brainpower. 

Also think we had grackles growing up in PA and that my mother found them to be quite annoying.  From the map in Langue_doc's link, it doesn't look like they bother folks out on the west coast, though.

ETA: Finally got a 2fer!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 27, 2021, 04:34:09 PM
I tried glug, but it didn’t “take” at first—maybe I mistyped?  Then later I tried again, and it was accepted. 


I had exactly the same experience, although I'm convinced I tried 'glug' at least seven times before it was accepted.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 28, 2021, 08:14:59 AM
LB yesterday was pitcher-ropewalk. I overlooked that I reused the "p" as well as the "e." I found cakewalk, then started playing with other words with "walk" and thought of a tightrope. The rest is history.

Slow start this morning on both LB and SB but will get there. Also have the Sunday papers so those will keep me busy.

Have a nice solving day!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 28, 2021, 08:43:03 AM
Difficult bee today, but just made it to 82 points. Interesting pangram.

LB, workplace/either.

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 28, 2021, 10:04:12 AM
Good afternoon? Still morning here, though!

For LB yesterday, I got PHOTOCOPIER-RACEWALK, so three different solutions so far.  So many b4ss.

Today's bee is tough but short! I think I'm only at 76.  The pangram did take me a bit, and there are a few that might be overlooked.  Yesterday my final word was incant, and husband's was vivacity. 

I forgot to mention that I think husband had a similar issue with words disappearing or not being registered.  It was maybe early last week when I had gotten to QB and was helping him figure out what he had left.  He figured a few of them out, and when we went back to it he had fewer points than before, and some of the words were no longer in the list.  Very odd.  I saw him enter them myself!

I got so wrapped up in trying to solve LB (and look at office furniture... woohoo) that I totally forgot about the sudokus coming out yesterday afternoon, so I still have to work on those.

Happy Sunday solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 28, 2021, 10:13:46 AM
Amazing (no pangram yet) and a 3fer. Plus we got 2 Sunday NYT magazines because last week's was held up due to the storms, so lots of puzzles for today.

Went out to dinner with some friends and sat on a back patio which felt almost normal! But now I really need a long walk to work off the food, wine and bit of a hangover.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 28, 2021, 11:03:55 AM
Wow!  Lots of different answers for yesterday’s LB!  I had wartlike-epoch—so ciao_yall, not the same solution at all!  I also had powerwalker, and then a few letters left over which I could not form into a word.  Just playing around haphazardly, I typed raitch, which LB accepted!  What does that mean, I wondered?  It’s not in my dictionary, so I decided that even if LB accepted it, I could not.  Thus the search for a better solution.  Maybe someday I’ll try the word in SB and see if they take it!

I don’t yet have a solution for today’s LB, though. 

As for yesterday’s SB, I missed two words I should have gotten:  acai and acacia (which I usually get!). I also missed attaint. 

Today’s SB is going slowly.  I’m at amazing.  No pangram yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 28, 2021, 01:09:58 PM
Cathwen, I had powerwalker and thought I had tried raitch just for the heck of it, because it was getting to me that I couldn't figure out how to use the few remaining letters! I guess I thought about it but didn't actually make the attempt.  In any case, I kind of feel the same way when I get one of those "solutions" that just don't sit right.   And I will go ahead and guess that SB won't accept it!

Seems like a slow bee day.  I picked up a few more points, now at 83.  Still no alpha.  Egad.  I have a couple okay contenders for LB, but nothing too promising yet.  At least I got the sudokus done and my Duolingos for end of tournament.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 28, 2021, 01:57:40 PM
No queen, no two-fer, no regrets.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 28, 2021, 02:09:48 PM
Well, I finally got to 95, so still 5 more points to QB.  And it won't take a 5-letter word that I thought of that is in the dictionary.  Blerg.  Yesterday I thought it might accept ANTICAVITY as a pangram, but no.  And that is also in the dictionary, unhyphenated.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on February 28, 2021, 03:20:28 PM
SB is not coming along well at all, but at least I finally found a 2-fer for LB. 

Ab_grp, I hope you get to QB!  I haven't made it past amazing. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on February 28, 2021, 03:28:54 PM
With help from the crossword column I achieved genius and 99 points. There is one J-word I can't get.

Got stuck on LB so sought help as well. I had found the first word and variations of the second word, just hadn't quite put them together.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on February 28, 2021, 03:33:23 PM
ciao_yall, and everybody else, I can send you the hint for the j word, if you like.

I'm grading, so have to be content with my 90. Besides, tomorrow's crosswords are probably out, so no more LB or SB for me tonight.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on February 28, 2021, 03:58:38 PM
Well, I finally got to 95, so still 5 more points to QB.  And it won't take a 5-letter word that I thought of that is in the dictionary.  Blerg.  Yesterday I thought it might accept ANTICAVITY as a pangram, but no.  And that is also in the dictionary, unhyphenated.

I have a seven-letter word it won't accept, to my chagrin.

I'm finding today's Bee very tough indeed. I'm still stuck at 32 points. =p But I'll probably make it to genius just before bedtime. That's usually how it goes.


Well done to all of you who've solved it or gone past genius!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 28, 2021, 04:11:56 PM
Today's bee was really like pulling teeth for me.  I should say "is" because I didn't figure out the final word yet but also haven't been back to it.  Maybe it will be like earlier in that I will switch to that app and suddenly see a word.  If you are still working at it, don't give up! There are some sort-of obscure words, or at least ones that might not come right to mind.   If anyone would like any sort of hints, please let me know.  I'll be happy to help (unless it's the word that's haunting me).  Ciao_yall, I'm not sure if I have the specific one you were looking for, but I also have a j word that might fit your needs.  Husband is also having a rough time of it today.  We will compare later, but not for a while.  Too close.

Congrats on your 2fers, cathwen and ciao_yall! Good luck grading, Langue_doc, and enjoy your crosswords.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on February 28, 2021, 07:44:58 PM
Got a 2fer! But gave up on the bee.  Husband did not have my missing word.  And f that word!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 01, 2021, 05:16:12 AM
Good morning!

Vent: inurn? jinni? whatever these mean...

Made it to genius today. The pangram wasn't too bad, but a bit time-consuming.

LB embowel/legitimacy. Why was I thinking of embowel and disembowel? Haven't a clue, other than I confused embowel with disembowel--didn't realize until this morning that there was probably no such word as embowel and that I was thinking of disembowel when I entered the former. However, LB accepted the word, so who am I to complain?

Happy solving, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on March 01, 2021, 06:09:15 AM
Good morning, everyone!

Well, I gave up on SB yesterday, not even having made it past amazing.  I did get one of the j-words, thanks to a dimly remembered poem by Victor Hugo, “Les Djinns,” that I read in a 19th c. French lit class as an undergrad.    I did not get the plural, jinni.  And I completely missed marijuana, the pangram!

I share Langue_doc’s reaction to inurn.  Whaaat...?

Today’s SB is coming along better.  I’m at genius and will keep checking back for more words. 

For yesterday’s LB, I got bowel-legitimacy. So I was thinking along the same lines as Langue_doc, although not quite as luridly!  : )   As for embowel, I’m remembering La Chanson de Guillaume, in which the hero hews and hacks his way through battle, only to be slashed in the abdomen, such that his intestines fall out.  But since he’s the hero of a medieval epic poem, he merely slings them over his arm and keeps on fighting.  I suppose he could have stuffed them back inside, thus emboweling himself.  Perhaps he did; it’s been a very long time since I’ve read that poem.

I found a 2-fer for today’s LB, but it seems like the kind of arrangement of letters that will yield several solutions.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on March 01, 2021, 06:57:29 AM
I guess 'jinni' is a plural of 'jinn'.

For my part, I eventually found the pangram but was nowhere near genius. Also, it rejected 'murrain'
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on March 01, 2021, 07:22:35 AM
SB - missed jinn. Learned a new word, and a new spelling of a word.

LB - With a little help, got bowl-legitimacy which is the official solution. I had been playing with ambit-towel-legacy and gambit-towel-lacy and eventually gave up.

Happy solving!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 01, 2021, 07:37:28 AM
Good morning!

Yep, inurn was the word I missed on the bee.  I was hoping it would take mirin.  Oh well.  It's a long puzzle today but a lot of letters from recent puzzles, so I at least got to 158 (no pangram yet) while brushing teeth.  Now coffee, crosswords, and further work on the bee.  Congrats on genius today, cathwen and Langue_doc!

For LB, I managed to get the official solution while playing around with it on my phone last night.  Congrats on your 2fer already, cathwen!

Have a good puzzle Monday!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on March 01, 2021, 08:32:19 AM
Made it past genius, but no pangram yet. I did find three rejected words, though: 5, 8, and 11 letters.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 01, 2021, 10:33:24 AM
I thought the pangram was pretty tough.  I'm at 324 now, so 9 points to QB? But the pangram was my third-to-last word found.  I'm hoping to get the final word(s) and not have another inurn situation.  In any case, only one pangram out of all those points!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 01, 2021, 11:26:48 AM
That's an impressive score, ab_grp. I think I'm at 299 or thereabouts, and don't see how I'm going to find more words.

I remembered the various spellings of 'jinn' from the Arabian Nights stories. Never came across 'jinni' though--probably a variant of 'genie'. I have to stop speculating and look up the meaning.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 01, 2021, 12:15:46 PM
Got to QB! The final word was sort of ironic.   Good luck if you persist.  I don't think this list is nearly as obscure as yesterday's.  It's a lot of words, though.

Hopefully I'll get somewhere with the hard sudoku, which I'm struggling with, and LB.  A couple contenders for the latter, but no mates yet.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 01, 2021, 12:42:52 PM
Congrats on your QB, ab_grp!

Got my two-fer, but still stuck on the bee.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on March 01, 2021, 12:44:51 PM
Ab_grp, congratulations on making QB!  I'm at 307, so at least Alpha.  Honestly, I don't see any other combinations possible--but I know they must be there somewhere! 

When I saw 'jinni,' I thought that it must be the plural of 'jinn'--a knee-jerk reaction based on Latin and Italian plurals, which of course is not the language group to which 'jinni' belongs, and it is not a plural. Actually, the opposite is true--according to Britannica, 'jinn' is the plural of 'jinni'.  We get 'genie' from that, as Langue_doc said.

And congrats on the 2-fer, Langue_doc!

 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 01, 2021, 02:22:24 PM
Thanks! I will send bee juju. 

Congrats on your 2fer, Langue_doc!

And thanks for the explanation of jinn/jinni, cathwen! I had also thought that jinni could be the plural.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on March 01, 2021, 06:12:07 PM
Hola,

Finally gave up and joined the Comments Orgy - squeaked into Genius. No pangram.

For LB, went to the online solver. I had gotten the first word which was rather unusual, and then the second word was a compound I hadn't thought of.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 01, 2021, 06:23:31 PM
Thanks for the explanation of jinni, cathwen. Since I have no recollection of encountering this word, I didn't think it was related to jinn.

Thanks for the bee juju, ab_grp. It worked.

ciao_yall and ab_grp, I'm sending hints for the pangram and my LB solution, and my LB solution respectively. Open your PMs at your peril.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 01, 2021, 07:01:40 PM
Congrats, Langue_doc!! I'm glad the juju helped.

And thanks for the hint! I opened it before reading this, but I am ready for peril if it leads me eventually to a LB solution.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 01, 2021, 07:36:23 PM
Since it's an unfamiliar comic series, think someone from the boonies.a century ago, getting excited about something (adjective).

ETA Tomorrow's crossword is done.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 01, 2021, 08:33:14 PM
I think I might have found a different 2fer? But I am going to keep looking and am interested in the answer!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 02, 2021, 05:42:06 AM
Good morning!

bodacious/shrink; (shrank and shrunk as well)

Made it to genius on SB. That's about it for today I think.

Happy solving, all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 02, 2021, 07:13:00 AM
Good morning!

Just a note that my final word in the bee yesterday was "ciao" of all things! It was also my husband's.

Thanks again for the LB hints, Langue_doc! Although I didn't find that solution, I think the solving power helped me to get KIRSCH-HANDBOUND.  I got "kirsch" later in the evening and had "hand" lying around to play with and came to this solution, which I am not thrilled with (but I'll take it!).  I also tried kibosh and bushido along the way to no avail.  Just looking for unusual words.  The comic strip reminds me a bit of a part of my family (exaggerated). 

Today I just had tooth-brushing time so far but found the pangram right away.  Just at 58 but will work more on it after crosswords and coffee.  It looks like it could be a tough one even though it's short.

Happy solving!

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on March 02, 2021, 07:45:42 AM
My LB yesterday was burdocks-sharkskin. I had gotten pretty close to that with my 3fers (burdocks-shank-kin) but didn't tip over the edge.

Today is all-college meetings on Zoom (oh joy) so I'll have lots of puzzle time.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on March 02, 2021, 09:42:03 AM
I was going to say good morning, but it's already afternoon—so good afternoon!

As always, I’m enjoying the various solutions to yesterday’s LB.  I had chicks-soundboard. 

Yesterday’s SB was more successful than usual for me, as I got to Alpha, but I just couldn’t see the remaining words.  I also missed ‘ciao’, as well as ‘coact’ and ‘coati’. 

Today, I’ve gotten to genius, and that may be it for the day.  And I’ve found a 2-fer for LB. 

Ciao_yall, saving puzzles for boring blah-blah-blah meetings (which college meetings tend to be) on Zoom is an excellent use of time! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Parasaurolophus on March 02, 2021, 09:49:21 AM
Got to genius pretty quickly this morning, and saw the pangram right away for once.

Among yesterday's rejected Bee words:

canto
nootic
coition
zoonotic
nictitation
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on March 02, 2021, 11:33:58 AM
Genius and several really close 3fers.

The meeting today was torture. Ended up hate-listening and snarking with friends over text.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 02, 2021, 11:53:10 AM
Well, managed to get to QB despite not a lot of initial optimism.  I had gotten right up to the border of Alpha, and husband was struggling, then he caught up almost to me.  When we came back to it just now, he passed me to a clean Alpha, then I passed him, and then he hit QB about a minute before I did.  He has been having a hard time with it recently, so I am very happy that he got there first! It was fun trying to keep passing each other.  Some obscure words, but not too bad.  Good luck if you're still in it!

Congrats on the 2fer, cathwen, and it sounds as though ciao_yall is nearly there.  I have a couple contenders, one of which I feel could be the trick, but no mate yet.  I wonder if there will be as many solutions found as yesterday.  Hope the snark and puzzle solving helped with the meeting torture, ciao_yall.

ETA: Just got a 2fer! I was right about which contender would get to a solution.  Will happily try to provide helpful hints to anyone interested!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 02, 2021, 12:22:13 PM
Congrats QBs and two-fers.

Made it to QB--there's only one unfamiliar word. I had 96 points this morning, so it wasn't too taxing.

I won't be able to get to LB as I have a book discussion session later this evening. Unlike ciao_yall, I won't be able to play with puzzles as this is a group that requires your undivided attention.

I knew from experience that SB wouldn't accept coition, but tried it anyway, Yesterday I found ciao early on, and assumed that everybody else in this group would have found it too.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on March 02, 2021, 12:41:23 PM
Congrats on QB, Langue_doc and ab_grp!

I have just one word to go until QB.  I need to go away and come back to it.  What can it be?  I am wracking my brain, such as it is.

As for yesterday's rejected words:  I tried coition, too.  And canto, which I always try, and which is always rejected.

Ciao_yall, your meeting sounded hideous, but you had a good coping strategy. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 02, 2021, 02:18:15 PM
Congrats, Langue_doc! Hope you enjoy your book discussion!

And good luck, cathwen.  You are so close! I hope the time away helps.  As Langue_doc noted, there's really only one sort of tough word that I sort of had to guess at.  Both husband and I found it late in the puzzle.  Sending bee juju your way!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on March 02, 2021, 02:30:33 PM
Thanks for the SB juju, ab_grp! I finally got to QB.  Yippee!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 02, 2021, 04:21:43 PM
Hooray, cathwen! Yay! Congrats! I am guessing we might all have had the same word haunting us, but I guess we'll see tomorrow.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on March 02, 2021, 07:21:19 PM
Argh. So close on a 2fer but so far away...

I went to the online solver and none of their words even took!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 03, 2021, 04:33:30 AM
Morning!

Last word yesterday was venule, which I found by rearranging the letters ad infinitum--still don't know what it means.
Made it to genius today, with an easy pangram.

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on March 03, 2021, 04:55:06 AM
Good morning, all! 

Oddly, on yesterday's SB, I had gotten venule early on by rearranging the letters kind of randomly.  I didn't know that word, either, but apparently it is a small blood vessel.  My last word was levee, which for some reason had not popped out at me, as it is not an unusual word. 

Yesterday's LB:  I had the "official" answer, viewership-plumb.. What did everyone else get?

Today, I was up unusually early, and so started the puzzles earlier than usual.  I'm at Beta on SB and have found a 2-fer on LB.  But now I have to get to work.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 03, 2021, 05:01:38 AM
Congrats on the two-fer! There are probably several possibilities today, as I just found a couple of two-fers.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on March 03, 2021, 06:45:08 AM
Thanks to  ab_grp telling me to relook at one of my 3fers I ended up with viewership-plumb which I don't think was the direction s/he was pointing me, but hey, official solution.

LB - woke up at 4 am, already have a few b2ss 2fers so hope a little coffee will knock things loose. ETA: 2fer!

Happy solving, y'all!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 03, 2021, 09:09:52 AM
Good morning!

My LB was VIEWERSHIPS-SUBLIME.  Sorry about the hints sent from my phone last night, ciao_yall, but I'm glad you got to a solution, and it was the official one!

Congrats on your 2fers today, all of you! I will take a look at today's later and will hopefully also have some success.

My last word yesterday was venue, with venule right before it.  Today I'm at Alpha, barely, 87 points.  Took a while to find the pangram.  Husband is a point from genius with no pangram, so he should catch up quickly once he gets it.  Glad to hear the bee is going in the right direction for everyone!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on March 03, 2021, 09:56:40 AM
Good morning!

My LB was VIEWERSHIPS-SUBLIME.  Sorry about the hints sent from my phone last night, ciao_yall, but I'm glad you got to a solution, and it was the official one!

Congrats on your 2fers today, all of you! I will take a look at today's later and will hopefully also have some success.

My last word yesterday was venue, with venule right before it.  Today I'm at Alpha, barely, 87 points.  Took a while to find the pangram.  Husband is a point from genius with no pangram, so he should catch up quickly once he gets it.  Glad to hear the bee is going in the right direction for everyone!

I didn't understand you were trying to hint "sublime" when you were talking about going from a solid to a gas? I was like vaporize, steam, melt...

Oh well. At genius, found a few 2fers so off to get my first COVID-19 vaccine!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 03, 2021, 10:31:28 AM
Good morning!

My LB was VIEWERSHIPS-SUBLIME.  Sorry about the hints sent from my phone last night, ciao_yall, but I'm glad you got to a solution, and it was the official one!

Congrats on your 2fers today, all of you! I will take a look at today's later and will hopefully also have some success.

My last word yesterday was venue, with venule right before it.  Today I'm at Alpha, barely, 87 points.  Took a while to find the pangram.  Husband is a point from genius with no pangram, so he should catch up quickly once he gets it.  Glad to hear the bee is going in the right direction for everyone!

I didn't understand you were trying to hint "sublime" when you were talking about going from a solid to a gas? I was like vaporize, steam, melt...

Oh well. At genius, found a few 2fers so off to get my first COVID-19 vaccine!

The first one has no after effects, but I would suggest scheduling the second one on a Friday in case you need to recuperate.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 03, 2021, 10:53:18 AM
Good morning!

My LB was VIEWERSHIPS-SUBLIME.  Sorry about the hints sent from my phone last night, ciao_yall, but I'm glad you got to a solution, and it was the official one!

Congrats on your 2fers today, all of you! I will take a look at today's later and will hopefully also have some success.

My last word yesterday was venue, with venule right before it.  Today I'm at Alpha, barely, 87 points.  Took a while to find the pangram.  Husband is a point from genius with no pangram, so he should catch up quickly once he gets it.  Glad to hear the bee is going in the right direction for everyone!

I didn't understand you were trying to hint "sublime" when you were talking about going from a solid to a gas? I was like vaporize, steam, melt...

Oh well. At genius, found a few 2fers so off to get my first COVID-19 vaccine!

Sorry about that! I first thought of the band Sublime but then thought of sublimate.  Good luck with your vaccine! Do you know which one you're getting? Husband has had a strange set of coincidental luck getting one scheduled this week (tomorrow).   I have heard of some folks having side effects from the first one, but mostly painful arm and heavy fatigue.  As Langue_doc noted, the second one seems to take some more recovery.  Hope it goes well!

Oh yeah I got to QB!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 03, 2021, 01:43:29 PM
Good morning!

My LB was VIEWERSHIPS-SUBLIME.  Sorry about the hints sent from my phone last night, ciao_yall, but I'm glad you got to a solution, and it was the official one!



Oh well. At genius, found a few 2fers so off to get my first COVID-19 vaccine!

ETA: quote didn't work--this is ab_grp's post

 Good luck with your vaccine! Do you know which one you're getting? Husband has had a strange set of coincidental luck getting one scheduled this week (tomorrow).   I have heard of some folks having side effects from the first one, but mostly painful arm and heavy fatigue.  As Langue_doc noted, the second one seems to take some more recovery.  Hope it goes well!

Oh yeah I got to QB!
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Congrats on getting to QB, ab_grp.

Today's puzzle wasn't too bad. I was stuck on the last 7 points and couldn't decide if I should look for a 5 or 6 letter word and one or two short ones as I didn't think there could be more than a few 4-letter words. Found the word eventually. SB wouldn't accept logoff or feal--the latter probably archaic.

As for the vaccine, I had no effects from the first one other than some soreness on the site. During the second one, the nurse gave me a list of after-effects to watch for and also informed me that she and the others administering the vaccines were required to give patients this information. This time I had no symptoms for at least 24 hours following the vaccine, but then had a high fever, fatigue, and other symptoms of the flu. My physician's practice is affiliated with a large medical provider downstate, so the practice sent the patients who qualified for the vaccine a link to the website where you could choose your site and the date/time. On both occasions I got the shot as soon as I walked in which was before my scheduled time. We could also choose between Moderna and Pfizer.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 03, 2021, 02:40:32 PM
Congrats on the QB, Langue_doc! It sounds as if you and I might have had the same final word.

I have a good LB contender but need to find a mate.  Or ditch this one given that it sounds as though there are multiple solutions.

I think husband is getting Pfizer tomorrow, so we'll see how that goes.  We will probably order some delivery tonight to have an easy dinner ready for tomorrow just in case.  Mainly for me so I don't have to have a sad PBJ if he gets the fatigue and goes to bed early. ;-)

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 03, 2021, 03:25:40 PM
Good idea to be prepared not to cook. I got the Pfizer because of the recommendation of a virologist friend, but the doctor's office didn't think that one was better than the other.

Sending hint in a few minutes.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on March 03, 2021, 03:31:19 PM
Finally made QB!  The last two words were not terribly common.   

I get my first vaccine tomorrow—I think it's Moderna.  Since I usually have a mild reaction to flu shots, I imagine I'll have one to this one, too.  My husband got his first shot last week—Pfizer.  His arm was sore for a couple of days,  but that was all.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 03, 2021, 03:57:55 PM
Thanks for the hints, Langue_doc! Got a 2fer from them.  The second part of the first clue gave me a mate I needed for my contender, which I think was what you were referring to in the second part of your second clue.  But I chuckled because the answer to the first part of the first clue was that I nearly threw it across the room a few minutes ago (ok I exaggerate a bit) and then heavily did the first part of your second clue.  The freaking restaurant we were trying to order from.  Aargh!!!!

Congrats on your QB, cathwen! One of the words was not my final one but was one that I had to sort of remember was in there.  Not even a common uncommon bee word.  Tough one! I'm glad you were triumphant! And I hope your vaccination goes well tomorrow and that you get to relax and/or celebrate after. 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 04, 2021, 06:01:48 AM
Good morning all! Hurrah to those of you who are getting/have just got the vaccine--this also applies to hubs.

Just made it to amazing with two pangrams. It's a wordy one today.

My last word yesterday was leafage. Didn't realize that this was a word. I tried leafpeep, but no luck. I remembered the meanings of flagella from my high school science class and pelf as either medieval or biblical. I was surprised that the latter was accepted.

SB: charge/exhalation and rationale/exchange. NY Times has charge/exaltation.

ab_grp, I can visualize your frustration with ordering your dinner. Sometimes it's just a matter of clueless employees.

Happy solving!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on March 04, 2021, 07:18:39 AM
Good morning! 

Pelf, indeed.  I found that by randomly entering letter combinations—I was at the desperation point where I knew I needed two four-letter words, and I had exhausted all the other combinations.  The next-to-last word was gaff, which I hadn’t tried because I already had gaffe.  And yes, Langue_doc, what’s up with leafage?  I didn’t know that was a word, either. 

Like Langue_doc, I got the same answer for LB:  charge-exhalation.  I did not pursue other combinations. 

Today I’m at genius on SB and have a 2-fer for LB. 

Thanks for the good vaccination wishes, Langue_doc! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ciao_yall on March 04, 2021, 07:48:18 AM
Morning! 

SB had "fella" another one of those words I don't think is a word but should try. ETA: And of course, it still won't take "hella." Grr. Those New Yorkers are just jealous of our fabulous California weather.

LB - cringe-exhalation and changer-relaxation. ETA: 2fer already. Now I know what it feels like to be cathwen!

Coffee maker just beeped so will start on today's puzzles.

Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 04, 2021, 08:13:57 AM
Good morning!

Pelf was a hard one, I thought.  That's the one I vaguely remembered being in there but couldn't remember what it meant.  My last one was flagella.  I think I tried just about every compound word I could think of.  Today I'm almost to genius (163) with two pangrams, but husband will be heading off for his appointment soon, so I'll get back to it later.  Still have a problem with my crossword I need to find. 

Thanks to Langue_doc's superb hints, I got RATIONALE to go with my EXCHANGE.  Lots of solutions again! Hopefully similar luck today.  Congrats on already getting a 2fer, cathwen! Hope your vaccination appointment goes well! As you can probably tell, trying to order a nice, handy meal for this evening did not work out, so we made cheesesteaks and have the leftovers for tonight.  We will try again on ordering the nicer, healthier meal again tomorrow night, hopefully.

Happy Thursday solving! 
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: ab_grp on March 04, 2021, 11:05:48 AM
I managed to get to Alpha (215), still with two pangrams.  But there are enough points left that there could be a third, I guess.

Husband's appointment was extremely efficient despite the number of cars and people that made him less than optimistic at first.  Very strong presence of National Guard, police, fire, ambulance, etc.  Social distancing was enforced and adhered to, and a guy was sanitizing the waiting area chairs as soon as people got up to leave.
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: Langue_doc on March 04, 2021, 11:20:39 AM
I have 210 points and only two pangrams so far. Got a two-fer in LB.

I'm not going to have time or energy for more words as I have a meeting coming up and lots of grading.

Glad to hear that the vaccine appointment was efficient. BTW, when I read about your dinner preparations, I thought you were making cheesecakes and was wondering why you needed to make more than one and why that would be a good substitute for dinner! As someone mentioned about juries, people hear what they want to hear and believe what they want to believe. I guess people also read what they want to read!
Title: Re: NYT Spelling Bee
Post by: cathwen on March 04, 2021, 12:21:57 PM
I’m at high Beta (205).  Not sure if I’ll get back to the puzzles—I am determined to finish grading the first major assignment today, if it kills me.

Congrats on all the LB 2-fers!  And ciao_yall, the only reasons I usually get LB early is that (1) I am a very early riser because I’m old, and (2) I am in New England, not California, so three hours ahead of you. 

Speaking of old, the vaccine appointment went smoothly today.  I didn’t see anyone sanitizing chairs, and that shocked me a little, as t