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Title: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: pedanticromantic on January 19, 2022, 05:12:10 PM
Not the white saviour into black neighbourhood movies, but a decent film where a teacher makes a difference. I'm really struggling with my mental health and the (still currently online where I am) teaching at the moment. Need to remind myself why I do this.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: dismalist on January 19, 2022, 05:25:09 PM
Quote from: pedanticromantic on January 19, 2022, 05:12:10 PM
Not the white saviour into black neighbourhood movies, but a decent film where a teacher makes a difference. I'm really struggling with my mental health and the (still currently online where I am) teaching at the moment. Need to remind myself why I do this.

How about a black teacher in a neighborhood of white kids, working stiffs? To Sir with Love, 1967.

How about a white female teacher in a neighborhood of white boys, losers? Up the Down Staircase, 1967.

Can't be that the genre ended in 1967.

Best  of luck.

Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: mamselle on January 19, 2022, 06:05:22 PM
"Dead Poet's Society," to the degree that the issues are addressed as well as the difficulties.

A cautionary tale, perhaps, as much as anything.

There's also a thread for sharing in more detail if that would be useful, here:

    http://thefora.org/index.php?topic=1380.285

And of course, if counselling is at all a possibility, that can be a support in the rocky spots, too.

All good thoughts as you work through this.

M.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: Wahoo Redux on January 19, 2022, 07:00:47 PM
"Stand and Deliver" is cheesy but still well done.  A high school movie based on a true story.

Hope you feel better.  Education is one of the most important things that we have.  You are part of that.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: kaysixteen on January 19, 2022, 10:10:30 PM
"Mr. Holland's Opus" was pretty darn good, too.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: ergative on January 20, 2022, 12:30:02 AM
Quote from: dismalist on January 19, 2022, 05:25:09 PM
Quote from: pedanticromantic on January 19, 2022, 05:12:10 PM
Not the white saviour into black neighbourhood movies, but a decent film where a teacher makes a difference. I'm really struggling with my mental health and the (still currently online where I am) teaching at the moment. Need to remind myself why I do this.

How about a black teacher in a neighborhood of white kids, working stiffs? To Sir with Love, 1967.

How about a white female teacher in a neighborhood of white boys, losers? Up the Down Staircase, 1967.

Can't be that the genre ended in 1967.

Best  of luck.

Up the Down Staircase was an excellent book, too.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: downer on January 20, 2022, 03:51:42 AM
A different approach is to view some terrible students and terrible teachers, so you can then be grateful that at least you have it better then them.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: mahagonny on January 20, 2022, 04:22:10 AM
'A Beautiful Mind'

and some movies/novels are about teaching without using a professional educator character, like 'A Patch of Blue'
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: marshwiggle on January 20, 2022, 04:25:06 AM
Not to be a big downer, but the problem with movies like that is like looking at the "top 40 under 40" lists and things of that nature. Mozart wrote his first composition at 4!!!!

All of us are human; we will probably make a difference in a few lives, mostly people very close to us. Those "inspirational" stories set a bar that very few people will ever reach. (The reason they make such popular stories is that they are very atypical.)

So enjoy them as you will, but don't use them as the standard for judging your own life. I've had lots of students say they enjoyed my courses, but I can't recall one in nearly 4 decades saying that I had changed their life. That's fine. I've consistently worked to improve in order to provide more value to my students. But the job of "messiah" is already filled.

Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: mahagonny on January 20, 2022, 04:57:33 AM
I was once on a job where I didn't think I was doing my best work, or my work didn't matter enough. I bellyached about this to one of my co-workers at a coffee break, and she said 'what's missing in your thought process is the "take the money and run" attitude.'
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: mahagonny on January 20, 2022, 07:18:22 AM
Quote from: marshwiggle on January 20, 2022, 04:25:06 AM
Not to be a big downer, but the problem with movies like that is like looking at the "top 40 under 40" lists and things of that nature. Mozart wrote his first composition at 4!!!!

All of us are human; we will probably make a difference in a few lives, mostly people very close to us. Those "inspirational" stories set a bar that very few people will ever reach. (The reason they make such popular stories is that they are very atypical.)

So enjoy them as you will, but don't use them as the standard for judging your own life. I've had lots of students say they enjoyed my courses, but I can't recall one in nearly 4 decades saying that I had changed their life. That's fine. I've consistently worked to improve in order to provide more value to my students. But the job of "messiah" is already filled.

[spoiler alert] In 'A Patch of Blue' it was Sydney Poitier's character who was saintly, but the education that Elizabeth Hartman's character would get, that he made possible, and would change her life, would be from regular trained people like many of us...;-)

I liked the film, although you could say the prostitute mom was cast as a stereotypical villain rather than one forced by circumstances (which the masterful Shelley Winters played vividly.)
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: pedanticromantic on January 20, 2022, 10:02:46 AM
Thanks folks. Some good suggestions I'll follow up on.
I'm just thinking I'm done with this job, at this point. I've been teaching for almost 20 years. The students are getting worse. The service load is getting worse. The research time has shrunk. I'm drained after a back and forth of online offline online offline for 2 years. 
I have more and more difficulty dealing with student bullshit ("Oh, help, I TRIED so I deserve an "A"!!") or "What do I do for this assignment?"(After I covered it twice in class and it's in the recorded lectures, etc.)
I have no more patience and I'm going to lose my shit on someone.
I want to watch movies about teachers who love what they're doing and make a difference, even if I feel those days are long gone.  Maybe I will be inspired. Maybe I won't. I'm not sure what else to do though except cut my losses and go do some other job.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: mamselle on January 20, 2022, 10:42:03 AM
Realistically, is it possible to do exactly what your last sentence says?

Or at least take steps to get you there?

Is going part-time or retiring soon an option?

If watching a few films feels like what you need, that's cool, too, but it sounds like more input/nurture/change might be even more useful, still.

In all cases, continued support and good thoughts.

M.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: Parasaurolophus on January 20, 2022, 11:14:12 AM
There's The Girl With All the Gifts... it's a bleak zombie movie, but the teacher makes a big difference.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: Anselm on January 20, 2022, 11:50:09 AM
The Emperor's Club with Kevin Kline.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: apl68 on January 20, 2022, 12:21:05 PM
Quote from: Parasaurolophus on January 20, 2022, 11:14:12 AM
There's The Girl With All the Gifts... it's a bleak zombie movie, but the teacher makes a big difference.

The first half of the anime series School Live is similar.  It's the only zombie story I've ever watched, but I gather it's pretty tame and hopeful compared to most. 

Although if you're prepared to watch anime and want something more feel-good Azumanga Daioh might be better.  The main teachers spotlighted are more often comically bad than inspirational, but the overall view of school is fairly upbeat.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: marshwiggle on January 20, 2022, 12:33:12 PM
Quote from: pedanticromantic on January 20, 2022, 10:02:46 AM

I want to watch movies about teachers who love what they're doing and make a difference, even if I feel those days are long gone.  Maybe I will be inspired. Maybe I won't.

I just want to point out that in all of those movies, not only the instructors but the students are fictional. So even the efforts of those fictional teachers might not get the same response from real students.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: mamselle on January 20, 2022, 02:49:41 PM
Hey, we all live in hope!

;--}

M.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: sinenomine on January 20, 2022, 03:59:35 PM
For a miniseries, To Serve Them All my Days — or the book of the same title (by R.F. Delderfield).
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: mamselle on January 20, 2022, 04:46:24 PM
I loved that series!!

The Welsh instructor was so thoughtful.

Thanks for the reminder.

M.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: Diogenes on January 21, 2022, 06:59:08 AM
If you are into dark and crass humor, the South Park episode making fun of the savior teacher movies is pretty hilarious https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1213538/

Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: cathwen on January 21, 2022, 07:21:19 AM
If you speak/understand French and/or don't mind subtitles, Les Choristes (The Chorus) revolves around a music teacher in a school for difficult boys.  It was nominated for Best Foreign Film in 2004.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: apl68 on January 21, 2022, 07:53:16 AM
Goodbye Mr. Chips!  How could we have forgotten that one?
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: mamselle on January 21, 2022, 07:58:32 AM
Oh, yes! Les Choristes,  I enjoy the group's concerts, also (sadly they've disbanded due to lack of funding:

   https://youtu.be/cQSTAhXR3Ko

and

   https://youtu.be/tZ_xhQlLn50

And ditto《 Etre et Avoir》(To Be and to Have): UK version is translated, I think: 

   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Be_and_to_Have

and

   https://youtu.be/272EHggKWEo
   
After it won several awards, there were some legal actions by the participants (just to be transparent).

But the cinematography in both, as well as the sense of the ephemeral, one might almost say spiritual values,  in education, is amazing.

There is a sense of the ultimate in the caring engagement with willing young minds and hearts that lies not too deeply buried under the heart of both films.

M.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: cathwen on January 21, 2022, 08:32:09 AM
Yes! Etre et Avoir.  Wonderful film.
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: apl68 on January 21, 2022, 10:09:34 AM
Quote from: mamselle on January 21, 2022, 07:58:32 AM
Oh, yes! Les Choristes,  I enjoy the group's concerts, also (sadly they've disbanded due to lack of funding:

   https://youtu.be/cQSTAhXR3Ko

and

   https://youtu.be/tZ_xhQlLn50

And ditto《 Etre et Avoir》(To Be and to Have): UK version is translated, I think: 

   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Be_and_to_Have

and

   https://youtu.be/272EHggKWEo
   
After it won several awards, there were some legal actions by the participants (just to be transparent).

But the cinematography in both, as well as the sense of the ephemeral, one might almost say spiritual values,  in education, is amazing.

There is a sense of the ultimate in the caring engagement with willing young minds and hearts that lies not too deeply buried under the heart of both films.

M.

But maybe not Les Quatres Cents Coups, huh?
Title: Re: Looking for uplifting teaching movies
Post by: mamselle on January 21, 2022, 04:28:07 PM
Ah, non...

Ceci-la n'est pas du tout le meme chose....

M.