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Title: Go Crimson
Post by: kaysixteen on January 27, 2023, 09:08:04 PM
What would happen if an actual, ahem, professor, did anything like this at the Best University in the World?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/01/27/sports/katey-stone-harvard-womens-hockey/?s_campaign=breakingnews:newsletter
Title: Re: Go Crimson
Post by: Wahoo Redux on January 27, 2023, 09:26:25 PM
Paywalled.

Cut'n'paste the article.  No one every seems to come after The Fora when someone does this.
Title: Re: Go Crimson
Post by: foralurker on January 28, 2023, 08:31:44 AM
It's a long article. I used archive ph to snapshot it. Great tool to get to know.though newspapers have my sympathies, I can't subscribe to every one of them.

https://archive.ph/ByFhB

Also, that coach is a real piece of work. Good grief!
Title: Re: Go Crimson
Post by: AmLitHist on January 28, 2023, 08:37:34 AM
She sounds like my HS P.E. teacher, who was trained by the devil himself.  Her minions on the various girls' sports teams liked her, but quite a few of us non-athletic and nerdy types got permanent doctor's excuses; I only took 1 1/2 years of the then state-mandated 4 years of P.E. (and spent those class periods working as a student librarian, instead).

There's no call for that kind of crap from a coach.
Title: Re: Go Crimson
Post by: ciao_yall on January 28, 2023, 09:54:32 AM
Yikes. How on earth does she think that kind of behavior helps the team?

She sounds like my niece's current HS varsity soccer coach.
Title: Re: Go Crimson
Post by: secundem_artem on January 28, 2023, 10:43:44 AM
I don't think I have ever seen a big time coach smile, let alone laugh.  I continue to be amazed the players put up with this abuse without just cold cocking the a$$hole screaming at them.  Do this as a coach and get a fat raise.  Do this as a faculty member and get a phone call from HR and the dean.  Just one more reason I have little love for college sports - although most of the athletes I've had over the years have been decent people.
Title: Re: Go Crimson
Post by: kaysixteen on January 28, 2023, 10:25:53 PM
All true, so my question remains, essentially, why does Harvard put up with this, indeed make excuses for her, and what would possibly be the case if such behavior had been committed by a professor?  I am especially puzzled by the coach's strongarming her *student*-athletes to prioritze team over academics, even to the point of blowing off labs and such....
Title: Re: Go Crimson
Post by: Wahoo Redux on January 29, 2023, 12:09:22 AM
I don't think there is anything particularly unusual here.  College coaches are known for this.
Title: Re: Go Crimson
Post by: kaysixteen on January 29, 2023, 08:18:31 PM
Sure, college coaches do this sort of thing all the time... at the Alabamas of the world.   What the hell is Harvard allowing it for, esp the part about encouraging the students to prioritze team over school, etc.?
Title: Re: Go Crimson
Post by: Wahoo Redux on January 30, 2023, 06:23:55 AM
Quote from: kaysixteen on January 29, 2023, 08:18:31 PM
Sure, college coaches do this sort of thing all the time... at the Alabamas of the world.   What the hell is Harvard allowing it for, esp the part about encouraging the students to prioritze team over school, etc.?

Probably the same thing that all the other colleges which tolerate abusive coaches are doing-----hoping for a killer team.
Title: Re: Go Crimson
Post by: little bongo on January 30, 2023, 06:26:25 AM
Yup, happens in the Ivies, too. There's a bit of Alabama everywhere.
Title: Re: Go Crimson
Post by: kaysixteen on January 30, 2023, 06:44:52 PM
Do you think that Hahvahd will be, ahem, embarrassed enough by this to do something about it, not just wrt this one woman, but also the mentality she works under?   It really does not want to be classed with the Bamas of the world, right?