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Started by secundem_artem, September 25, 2021, 02:16:53 PM

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dismalist

Well, looks like Black Affinity Housing at Western Washington University is segregating by race.

https://housing.wwu.edu/black-affinity-housing#faq

Back to Pleassy, I guess.
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marshwiggle

Quote from: dismalist on September 28, 2021, 05:54:53 AM
Well, looks like Black Affinity Housing at Western Washington University is segregating by race.

https://housing.wwu.edu/black-affinity-housing#faq

Back to Pleassy, I guess.

I'm really curious what the questions are on the request form to get in.
It takes so little to be above average.

mahagonny

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Quote from: marshwiggle on September 28, 2021, 06:07:00 AM
Quote from: dismalist on September 28, 2021, 05:54:53 AM
Well, looks like Black Affinity Housing at Western Washington University is segregating by race.

https://housing.wwu.edu/black-affinity-housing#faq

Back to Pleassy, I guess.

I'm really curious what the questions are on the request form to get in.

I've probably told you this before. I had a roommate years ago who was black. His biological parents were mother (white) and father (black). His biological brother was white. This would mean, potentially, that Bob would be eligible for black affinity housing but his brother Bill is not. Or even should not come for a visit.
Another thing they're saying now: we're not banning white people from the premises. We just don't want too many at one time.
Some of these folks will be hanging out at 3 a.m. having pointless black coffee discussions about identity. And deserving what they've done to their minds.

ETA: how about a trans-racial person? Why shouldn't they be allowed in?
I just clicked on the link to see the 'Black Affinity Housing Interest' form. The message came back 'you are not permitted to view this document.' Figures. Should've turned my camera off.

Hibush

Quote from: marshwiggle on September 28, 2021, 06:07:00 AM
Quote from: dismalist on September 28, 2021, 05:54:53 AM
Well, looks like Black Affinity Housing at Western Washington University is segregating by race.

https://housing.wwu.edu/black-affinity-housing#faq

Back to Pleassy, I guess.
I'm really curious what the questions are on the request form to get in.

"University Residences has reserved space for 40 students to take part in the program. If Housing receives over 40 applications, our assignments team will work to open up more spaces on the floor for students to live in Black Affinity Housing. "

The question appears to be "Do you want to live in Black Affinity Housing?"

marshwiggle

Quote from: Hibush on September 28, 2021, 08:17:24 AM
Quote from: marshwiggle on September 28, 2021, 06:07:00 AM
Quote from: dismalist on September 28, 2021, 05:54:53 AM
Well, looks like Black Affinity Housing at Western Washington University is segregating by race.

https://housing.wwu.edu/black-affinity-housing#faq

Back to Pleassy, I guess.
I'm really curious what the questions are on the request form to get in.

"University Residences has reserved space for 40 students to take part in the program. If Housing receives over 40 applications, our assignments team will work to open up more spaces on the floor for students to live in Black Affinity Housing. "

The question appears to be "Do you want to live in Black Affinity Housing?"

There's a form that students have to fill out that requires a login, so without seeing the form it's impossible to know what's on it.
It takes so little to be above average.

mahagonny

I feel pretty certain they would deny a trans-racial person, which should bring a lawsuit.

marshwiggle

Quote from: mahagonny on September 28, 2021, 09:46:20 AM
I feel pretty certain they would deny a trans-racial person, which should bring a lawsuit.

Well that's the interesting thing. Since progressives have decided that "transracialism" isn't real, then either the "affinity housing" must accept anyone, whether they are "Black" or not, or they have to somehow determine whether an applicant is "Black". Either one of those makes for some pretty awkward possibilities.
It takes so little to be above average.

mahagonny

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Quote from: marshwiggle on September 28, 2021, 09:54:36 AM
Quote from: mahagonny on September 28, 2021, 09:46:20 AM
I feel pretty certain they would deny a trans-racial person, which should bring a lawsuit.

Well that's the interesting thing. Since progressives have decided that "transracialism" isn't real, then either the "affinity housing" must accept anyone, whether they are "Black" or not, or they have to somehow determine whether an applicant is "Black". Either one of those makes for some pretty awkward possibilities.

Of course transracialism is real. I can claim I am woman, while still having male reproductive parts 24/7, and instead of a challenge from progressives, I will get applause and support. There's no basis for their denying transracialism.
But I don't even need their help. Actually, it's not transracialism at all. I was simply misinformed previously. I thought I was a 'white' person though my skin color would never be equated with the color of my tuxedo shirt. Not to mention, I have recently learned that the first homo sapiens lived in Africa. We are all African.

ETA - another affinity group that needs a housing provision: racially 'prefer not to answer'

Hegemony

The question is not whether you are Black. The question is whether you want to live in the Black Affinity Group housing. So: no identity tests here.

marshwiggle

Quote from: Hegemony on October 06, 2021, 12:07:41 PM
The question is not whether you are Black. The question is whether you want to live in the Black Affinity Group housing. So: no identity tests here.

As I said above, without actually seeing the form students have to fill out, it's impossible to conclude whether or not there is some sort of identity test. Promotional materials are notoriously vague about requirements for all kinds of things that only show in the fine print of any legal documents.
It takes so little to be above average.

mahagonny

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Quote from: Hegemony on October 06, 2021, 12:07:41 PM
The question is not whether you are Black. The question is whether you want to live in the Black Affinity Group housing. So: no identity tests here.

What I would expect to find in that case would be

(1) A non-black or less black guy who worships at the temple of wokeism/'antiracism' is welcome in the group

(2) A black guy who watches FOX news and hopes the republicans run Senator Tim Scott for president in 2024 is not.

...at least this is what the diversity industrial complex wishes for. But there could be surprises coming. Especially when things go beyond the silly fencing in the media and into the courtroom where things get decided.

newprofwife

There are affinity groups for older white women-try the women's center on your campus and join a committee supporting women in the workplace (or just go to the events if you don't want to plan them)!

I do feel for the white men without affinity groups but you all could create them as long as there was a purpose of service-perhaps have a group where seasoned faculty mentor junior faculty. Or create a social club. Why don't we have bowling clubs anymore?

And there are first gen affinity groups open to white folx too.

Also, the affinity groups (at least the ones on my campus) are OPEN to anyone. If you all want to visit us and join us, the door is open.

     

mamselle

You realize you're taking away all their reasons to complain...

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marshwiggle

Quote from: mamselle on November 11, 2021, 01:23:55 PM
You realize you're taking away all their reasons to complain...

M.

I think for most people, it's just odd to think of joining a group based primarily on identity rather than interests. For instance an "old white men" group seems pretty pointless, whereas a group for "Star Wars fans", on "fans of acapella music", or whatever is much more appealing, regardless of who else is in the group.

External physical characteristics are basically irrelevant unless you're maybe doing some sort of art project where you want a certain kind of crowd appearance.

"Affinity groups" based on the last digit of one's phone number would be easy to define, but will likely attract absolutely zero members.
It takes so little to be above average.

Wahoo Redux

We worked at an odd and dysfunctional Div. III school deep in the countryside of the rural upper Midwest.

"Diversity" was almost a hysterical concern of administration and some of the older (hippy generation) faculty.  The region was almost exclusively white, and the student body was almost exclusively local, so the school recruited minority students from the regional big cities which had all the inner-city educational problems one would expect.  The school spent a fair amount of money on this recruitment for a very small ROI.  The school had a lackluster-leaning-toward-embarrassing reputation to begin with, and I think the locale was uninviting for most city kids.

What this meant was that there was a small body of minority students who were not strong students to begin with and would probably not have gotten in most places. 

To accommodate these students, to give them a place of security, the university designated a "minority student center," which was essentially two meeting rooms in one of the  faculty office buildings (former dormitories).

The students who used the center closed the blinds and clustered together in the gloom and tended not to interact with the rest of the student body.

When we got a new chancellor, who was a person of color, the minority student center was immediately dissolved.

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