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Where is the "Words that Student's Don't Know" Thread?

Started by Aster, January 29, 2020, 12:31:22 PM

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Aster

I can't find it here. But maybe I'm using the search function wrong. I get nothing out of the search function.

namazu

I don't think it has made the transition to the new fora yet -- you could (re-)start it!

Here was the old thread: https://www.chronicle.com/forums/index.php/topic,55222.0.html

mamselle

To get this search engine to work you have to be in the main board before searching.

Otherwise it only searches the board you currently then have open.

(But it doesn't tell you that.)

But now we want to know!

What word were you going to post??!!

M.
Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding.

Reprove not a scorner, lest they hate thee: rebuke the wise, and they will love thee.

Give instruction to the wise, and they will be yet wiser: teach the just, and they will increase in learning.

present_mirth

How about "names that students don't know"? I'll offer up the first one: Plato.

At least some of the other students in the class jumped in right away and identified him as a philosopher. I think I might have been overcome by despair if they hadn't.

Aster

Wait, how do you move it from the old CHE forums to over here?

I need like a checklist of technical steps.

Or maybe someone who knows what they're doing could do it, using the last post as a linkage.

namazu

Quote from: Aster on January 30, 2020, 12:54:08 PM
Wait, how do you move it from the old CHE forums to over here?

I need like a checklist of technical steps.

Or maybe someone who knows what they're doing could do it, using the last post as a linkage.
There isn't a way to do this automatically. But you can start a new thread and quote the OP (or a selection of posts) from the old thread to get things going/set the tone, if you wish.  Or just start fresh.

Parasaurolophus

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Quote from: present_mirth on January 30, 2020, 11:07:09 AM
How about "names that students don't know"? I'll offer up the first one: Plato.

At least some of the other students in the class jumped in right away and identified him as a philosopher. I think I might have been overcome by despair if they hadn't.
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Ah, but how did you pronounce it? Maybe they were expecting the Greek (or, conversely, the English) pronunciation.

What really gets me is the persistent misgendering of scholars. Even after I've shown them pictures, the scholar's first name, repeatedly referred to her with female pronouns, and even if all that information is in the prompt. God forbid the article should be by a woman.
I know it's a genus.

present_mirth

Quote from: Parasaurolophus on January 30, 2020, 01:00:52 PM
Quote from: present_mirth on January 30, 2020, 11:07:09 AM
How about "names that students don't know"? I'll offer up the first one: Plato.

At least some of the other students in the class jumped in right away and identified him as a philosopher. I think I might have been overcome by despair if they hadn't.
`

Ah, but how did you pronounce it? Maybe they were expecting the Greek (or, conversely, the English) pronounciation.

I didn't. He was mentioned in the readings. And I would be very, very shocked if any of our students were expecting the Greek pronunciation!


apl68

Quote from: present_mirth on January 30, 2020, 11:07:09 AM
How about "names that students don't know"? I'll offer up the first one: Plato.

At least some of the other students in the class jumped in right away and identified him as a philosopher. I think I might have been overcome by despair if they hadn't.

Today's undergrads probably don't even know that our solar system used to have a ninth planet named after him.
God gave Noah the rainbow sign
No more water, but the fire next time
When this world's all on fire
Hide me over, Rock of Ages, cleft for me

mamselle

Ha!

Well done.

(I assume you're spoofing on Pluto, god of the underworld)...


M.
Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding.

Reprove not a scorner, lest they hate thee: rebuke the wise, and they will love thee.

Give instruction to the wise, and they will be yet wiser: teach the just, and they will increase in learning.

Aster

Okay. I made a new starter thread. Perhaps some of the stuff that people added here can be moved over. Or not. But I miss this discussion topic.

Myword

Why would they know of Plato or any other philosopher? It's not taught in high school. They would not know he was from Greece. They might not know where Greece is.

When I began teaching, like many others, I assumed that beginning college students had a larger vocabulary and were quick intelligent learners. Wrong. It's easy to criticize but how smart were you when you entered college? I used to think that space and time referred to science fiction. And are footnotes found on your foot?
This academic ignorance extends to mature adults who have professional jobs. I taught them.
Looking back, I recall a professor who always spoke very unclearly of realms, levels and causal control. I had no idea what he meant and still don't. But that's what I remember from his classes now!

craftyprof

Quote from: present_mirth on January 30, 2020, 11:07:09 AM
How about "names that students don't know"? I'll offer up the first one: Plato.

If it is any consolation, I think the second name they don't know is mine.  (There are multiple faculty with the same surname at my institution - apparently we are all one interchangeable super-professor)

And just to give you heart palpitations... I've seen Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure enough that my inner monologue refers to his teacher as "So-crates" as reliably as anything.

Parasaurolophus

Quote from: craftyprof on February 02, 2020, 07:44:30 AM

And just to give you heart palpitations... I've seen Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure enough that my inner monologue refers to his teacher as "So-crates" as reliably as anything.

Yup!

I'm a philosopher, though, and my colleagues give me funny looks when I say So-crates.
I know it's a genus.