claim: students will not party because they want to do the right thing

[pgher]

One of my kids goes to a college whose administrators sent a message to parents regarding misbehavior by off-campus students. The gist of it was, students who aren't living on campus but are living away from home are not following the college's policies, so parents should get them to straighten up. I thought, Yeah, right. Most young adults living on their own in a college town--where said college is doing everything online, so there's no educational reason to be there--do exactly what their parents tell them. And the check is in the mail.

[Puget]

I know this is not universal, but students here do really seem to want to do the right thing, and so far so good-- nearly 8000 tests of more than 3000 people so far in August (most in the past week with move in-- about half the students are on campus and the rest remote), and a grand total of 4 positive tests. Monday will be my first day on campus-- it will be weird being back, but I do think we have a good chance of doing this safely. Everyone is being tested twice a week, and students have to show a color coded "passport" on their phone at the start of class, which indicates they are current with their tests and symptom survey.

And now our grand total has grown to. . . 6.
Out of more than 18,000 tests of more than 4000 people since classes started.
So far teaching in person has felt fine, and we got our own personal lapel mics today to make projecting with a mask easier.
So, it CAN be done, at least on a relatively well-resourced, modestly sized campus with relatively responsible (and neurotic) students, in an area that is not currently a hot-spot. Not to say it's easy, but you can't generalize that no place can have in person classes without an immediate outbreak happening.

[polly_mer]

https://slate.com/technology/2020/09/coronavirus-diaries-student-health-ambassador.html has a student explaining experiences as a health ambassador.

The anecdote about the students who flat out refuse to obey the clear rules because they can think of edge cases ring true.  Yep, there are clear rules, but somehow those rules shouldn't apply to the precious snowflakes.

See, the term remains an unpleasant form of name calling that reflects mostly on the person who uses it.

Administrators don's have to deal with student evaluations.

Normal members of the public can do anything they like, especially if the shoe fits for people who are much too special to follow the clear rules.  "Snowflake" is pretty mild compared to what I'm really thinking about adults who are too special to follow the rules or even the current laws for public safety.

[mahagonny]

https://slate.com/technology/2020/09/coronavirus-diaries-student-health-ambassador.html has a student explaining experiences as a health ambassador.

The anecdote about the students who flat out refuse to obey the clear rules because they can think of edge cases ring true.  Yep, there are clear rules, but somehow those rules shouldn't apply to the precious snowflakes.

See, the term remains an unpleasant form of name calling that reflects mostly on the person who uses it.

Administrators don's have to deal with student evaluations.

Normal members of the public can do anything they like, especially if the shoe fits for people who are much too special to follow the clear rules.  "Snowflake" is pretty mild compared to what I'm really thinking about adults who are too special to follow the rules or even the current laws for public safety.

Speaking for myself, as I noted upthread, I can follow rules when they are for everyone's good. I could probably even follow good rules that you had the job of enforcing.

[Caracal]

https://slate.com/technology/2020/09/coronavirus-diaries-student-health-ambassador.html has a student explaining experiences as a health ambassador.

The anecdote about the students who flat out refuse to obey the clear rules because they can think of edge cases ring true.  Yep, there are clear rules, but somehow those rules shouldn't apply to the precious snowflakes.

See, the term remains an unpleasant form of name calling that reflects mostly on the person who uses it.

Administrators don's have to deal with student evaluations.

Normal members of the public can do anything they like, especially if the shoe fits for people who are much too special to follow the clear rules.  "Snowflake" is pretty mild compared to what I'm really thinking about adults who are too special to follow the rules or even the current laws for public safety.

Sure, you are welcome to have a litany of abusive terms you lump people into. I'll continue to think it is unpleasant, odd and strange behavior for an adult. I'll probably also keep reporting posts when you direct those terms at people on here.