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Teaching research methods - tips and pitfalls

Started by Sun_Worshiper, February 23, 2021, 01:56:56 PM

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Hibush

Quote from: apl68 on February 24, 2021, 12:45:40 PM
Quote from: Sun_Worshiper on February 23, 2021, 06:47:20 PM
Good suggestions! Keep them coming.

Here are some fun spurious correlations that students get a kick out of: https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

So...by producing too many PhDs in mathematics we're increasing the amount of nuclear waste stored at nuclear plants?  Looks like the recommended course of action is clear!

Likewise, our space program is critically dependent on vigorous sociology-PhD production.

FishProf

If they've never seen THIS, it is a great intro to context.  Every claim in the website is TRUE.
I'd rather have questions I can't answer, than answers I can't question.

Hibush

Quote from: FishProf on February 24, 2021, 04:53:38 PM
If they've never seen THIS, it is a great intro to context.  Every claim in the website is TRUE.


Appropriately sponsored by a Klein-bottle vendor. A nice touch. You can store an infinite amount of DHMO vapor in it.

OneMoreYear

Thanks for starting this thread, Sun_Worshiper and for all the suggestions so far from those who have posted.  According to my Fall evals for Research Methods, you should do everything the opposite of how I am teaching it (evals amounted to--instructor tried really hard, but the class is awful).  Eh, I'm not all that pleased with the class structure myself, so it's time for a revamp.   So, I'm taking notes on this thread! 

ergative

Quote from: dismalist on February 24, 2021, 12:41:23 PM
One gets a spurious correlation between any two variables that exhibit a time trend. Unless the examples are used to motivate time-series analysis, they are not helpful.

I mean, that's the point of the website. It's showing that any two things can be correlated if you look hard enough, even if the correlation is absurd.

I use it to illustrate the dangers of multiple comparisons, and the need for theoretically motivated planned comparisons.

spork

I can recommend Charles Wheelan's Naked Statistics for explanations of which basic statistical methods are appropriate for which purposes.
It's terrible writing, used to obfuscate the fact that the authors actually have nothing to say.

apl68

Quote from: Hibush on February 24, 2021, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: apl68 on February 24, 2021, 12:45:40 PM
Quote from: Sun_Worshiper on February 23, 2021, 06:47:20 PM
Good suggestions! Keep them coming.

Here are some fun spurious correlations that students get a kick out of: https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

So...by producing too many PhDs in mathematics we're increasing the amount of nuclear waste stored at nuclear plants?  Looks like the recommended course of action is clear!

Likewise, our space program is critically dependent on vigorous sociology-PhD production.

And people say that social sciences PhDs aren't good for anything!
For our light affliction, which is only for a moment, works for us a far greater and eternal weight of glory.  We look not at the things we can see, but at those we can't.  For the things we can see are temporary, but those we can't see are eternal.

polly_mer

Quote from: apl68 on February 25, 2021, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: Hibush on February 24, 2021, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: apl68 on February 24, 2021, 12:45:40 PM
Quote from: Sun_Worshiper on February 23, 2021, 06:47:20 PM
Good suggestions! Keep them coming.

Here are some fun spurious correlations that students get a kick out of: https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

So...by producing too many PhDs in mathematics we're increasing the amount of nuclear waste stored at nuclear plants?  Looks like the recommended course of action is clear!

Likewise, our space program is critically dependent on vigorous sociology-PhD production.

And people say that social sciences PhDs aren't good for anything!

Who says that?!

I have been in meetings of engineers and physical scientists where we realized we needed a social science PhD and had to figure out how to get access to one.
Quote from: hmaria1609 on June 27, 2019, 07:07:43 PM
Do whatever you want--I'm just the background dancer in your show!

Parasaurolophus

Quote from: research_prof on February 23, 2021, 02:26:38 PM
Talk to them about how to properly cite other researchers' work (no kidding).

omg yes.

This week of helping my partner edit a collection has been horrific. Like, PhD-revoking stuff, IMO.
I know it's a genus.

ergative

Quote from: Parasaurolophus on February 25, 2021, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: research_prof on February 23, 2021, 02:26:38 PM
Talk to them about how to properly cite other researchers' work (no kidding).

omg yes.

This week of helping my partner edit a collection has been horrific. Like, PhD-revoking stuff, IMO.

Yes, I devoted a section of one of my lectures to that.

Sidenote: I was teaching a first-year seminar about how to write an essay, and we went through examples of good and bad essays. The first-year students chose one of the A-quality essays, gave it a C, and said that the referencing was problematic, because sometimes the author and year were both in parentheses together, and other times only the year was in parentheses. Argh. We had a chat about that.

(They also didn't like the transitions in the A-level essay. That's because they were good transitions, rather than 'Next, this essay will discuss . . . ' at the start of each paragraph. Argh.)

(Yes, I wrote the sample essays myself.)

Parasaurolophus

Quote from: ergative on February 26, 2021, 02:01:53 AM
Quote from: Parasaurolophus on February 25, 2021, 09:35:10 PM
Quote from: research_prof on February 23, 2021, 02:26:38 PM
Talk to them about how to properly cite other researchers' work (no kidding).

omg yes.

This week of helping my partner edit a collection has been horrific. Like, PhD-revoking stuff, IMO.

Yes, I devoted a section of one of my lectures to that.

Sidenote: I was teaching a first-year seminar about how to write an essay, and we went through examples of good and bad essays. The first-year students chose one of the A-quality essays, gave it a C, and said that the referencing was problematic, because sometimes the author and year were both in parentheses together, and other times only the year was in parentheses. Argh. We had a chat about that.

(They also didn't like the transitions in the A-level essay. That's because they were good transitions, rather than 'Next, this essay will discuss . . . ' at the start of each paragraph. Argh.)

(Yes, I wrote the sample essays myself.)

I've had similar experiences when I show them sample papers, actually. I was pretty surprised by how much backtracking to the basics I had to do.
I know it's a genus.

Sun_Worshiper

Quote from: spork on February 25, 2021, 05:45:19 AM
I can recommend Charles Wheelan's Naked Statistics for explanations of which basic statistical methods are appropriate for which purposes.

I use this too! Great book and fun read.

Wheelan should write an international edition that relies less on references to US sports. My international students always complain about this (they still like the book overall though).