What is academic freedom?

[marshwiggle]

Dorms are the next frontier in the free speech wars.

College Dorm Decorations Become a Front in the Campus Free Speech Wars
Barnard College is requiring students to strip decorations from their dorm doors in the wake of protests over the Israel-Hamas war.

Criticism of the Israeli government is not anti-Semitism. Times infinity.

So criticizing actions taken on behalf of a group of people doesn't constitute bigotry against those people?

[Ruralguy]

Criticism of the Israeli government certainly isn't antisemitism, unless most Israelis now are antisemites.
Nor is wearing an Israeli flag lapel pin necessarily support of the current government.

However, there are sensitive and insensitive ways of bringing up such issues.

American Jews (and other Jews across the world) are often brought up with a strong connection to Israel even when the connection to Judaism isn't particularly strong. This isn't a connection to a particular government or war. It is part of ethnic identity for many.  So, though its not antisemitism to criticize Israel, it can feel that way to some. I would urge people to be sensitive to that.

[Wahoo Redux]

Criticism of the Israeli government is not anti-Semitism. Times infinity.

So criticizing actions taken on behalf of a group of people doesn't constitute bigotry against those people?

[/quote]

No, buddy. 

There actually is a definition of bigotry. 

(We covered this over on the other thread.)

Consider that if you criticize a group of people based entirely on who and what they are, not on what they actually do, you might be enacting a prejudice. 

If you criticize Israel because they are a Jewish state and you don't like Jews, you are a bigot.

If you criticize Israel because you are horrified by their treatment of the Palestinians, you are a concerned world citizen.

I know you've been stung, my friend, but come on.

[Langue_doc]

Gentlemen, could you take this outside?

[marshwiggle]

Criticism of the Israeli government is not anti-Semitism. Times infinity.

So criticizing actions taken on behalf of a group of people doesn't constitute bigotry against those people?

No, buddy. 

Thank you for confirming that objecting to rainbow crosswalks doesn't equate with bigotry against the people the crosswalk is supposed to be supporting.

There actually is a definition of bigotry. 

(We covered this over on the other thread.)

Consider that if you criticize a group of people based entirely on who and what they are, not on what they actually do, you might be enacting a prejudice. 

Thank you for confirming that criticizing  drag queen story hour, (which is what some drag queens do), rather than their existence, (who they are), is not enacting a prejudice.

 

[Wahoo Redux]

Criticism of the Israeli government is not anti-Semitism. Times infinity.

So criticizing actions taken on behalf of a group of people doesn't constitute bigotry against those people?

No, buddy. 

Thank you for confirming that objecting to rainbow crosswalks doesn't equate with bigotry against the people the crosswalk is supposed to be supporting.

There actually is a definition of bigotry. 

(We covered this over on the other thread.)

Consider that if you criticize a group of people based entirely on who and what they are, not on what they actually do, you might be enacting a prejudice. 

Thank you for confirming that criticizing  drag queen story hour, (which is what some drag queens do), rather than their existence, (who they are), is not enacting a prejudice.

 

I'm glad I could clear that up for you.

Although I pretty sure that you are still not getting it...

In fact, nope, all you are doing is looking for a way to hang on to your prejudices and hate. 

Such a shame.

Unless!!!  Your objection is the morality of "Story Hour."

Is that it, Marshwanderer?  Do you see a moral objection to story hour if a Catholic priest does one?

[Wahoo Redux]

Gentlemen, could you take this outside?

Sorry, man.  Just responding.

[Wahoo Redux]

To continue the discussion of "hate" and "prejudice" please go here:

https://thefora.org/index.php?topic=3757.0