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Started by jimbogumbo, July 16, 2022, 10:19:22 AM

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marshwiggle

Quote from: Hibush on July 18, 2022, 09:46:13 AM

The coordination of message and framing is remarkably consistent among think tanks, some media organizations and marketing types. So the integrated approach is the most effective of all. Even AEI, which is the voice of big business, sings in remarkable harmony with some anarchists that claim to threaten their system.

Is there anything comparably sophisticated or coordinated on the left?

Is that kind of "harmony" a feature or a bug? I'd say the latter if it suggests that any important issue is so simple as to only have one clearly defined reasonable viewpoint.

Different people expressing different opinions on an issue is the way to help people understand the complexity and nuance inherent in reality.
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dismalist

QuoteEven AEI, which is the voice of big business, sings in remarkable harmony with some anarchists that claim to threaten their system.

Is there anything comparably sophisticated or coordinated on the left?

Contradictions as sophistication? Sounds suspect to me.  Could be a Marxist thought. :-)

Nay, it's about how politics in America works.

AEI is the voice of the Republican establishment, a big tent. It cooperates with Brookings, a leftish think tank, albeit of extraordinarily high quality. Looks to me like they're both together going after convincing the middle.

The right wing tent has always included business and free marketeers, who often are at each others' throats. The left wing tent includes what are best called social democrats and for now, a bunch of neo-marxist nut jobs, appropriating and deforming the label into democratic socialists. Looks like the right has the working stiffs, at least for now.

The originally posted article is a riot! Let me translate: Marxist granted asylum and sanctuary, in view of persecution by Neo-marxists, in a free market oriented institution. :-) 

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Anon1787

Quote from: kaysixteen on July 17, 2022, 08:41:18 PM
And yet, they do not seem to realize this.   Like it or not, the white working class, bamboozled for maybe two generations by now by GOP plutocrats using culture war lies, does not value the same cultural norms as the denizens of the faculty clubs at Harvard and Berkeley. Both of these groups need to realize that they need to change certain things about their current political goals and policies, or those plutocrats and culture warrior dupes/ fellow travelers, will ride to victory again.   The faculty clubbers, well, you can guess what I think they need to change, and they need to emphasize their economic plans, and, in easy and as non-condescending as possible terms, to explain to the lunchpail crowd how such an economic agenda would mean progress for them. 

It would be even less condescending to avoid saying that these bitter clingers are being duped by plutocrats.

Quote from: marshwiggle on July 18, 2022, 04:41:16 AM

Given that many of the "lunchpail crowd" have no interest in university, focusing on things like Pell Grants which will be of no interest (and will cost them taxes) shows how out-of-touch they are.

"This would be in your best interest if you were smart enough to have the same interests as us" is pretty much "Let them eat cake!"


Faculty are exempt from having a class interest in the overproduction of college graduates!