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Showing students the answers after online test

Started by hamburger, March 25, 2020, 06:35:49 AM

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polly_mer

Quote from: hamburger on April 02, 2020, 07:45:15 AM
It is much more enjoyable and easier to teach students from top universities.

It's certainly more pleasant to interact with people who want to learn and are in the appropriate level class for their current abilities.

How's that non-academic job search going so you can do something else instead of trying to teach people who don't want to learn?
Quote from: hmaria1609 on June 27, 2019, 07:07:43 PM
Do whatever you want--I'm just the background dancer in your show!

hamburger

Quote from: polly_mer on April 02, 2020, 09:13:45 AM
Quote from: hamburger on April 02, 2020, 07:45:15 AM
It is much more enjoyable and easier to teach students from top universities.

It's certainly more pleasant to interact with people who want to learn and are in the appropriate level class for their current abilities.

How's that non-academic job search going so you can do something else instead of trying to teach people who don't want to learn?

Most applications for faculty positions at universities failed. I heard from one SCC that my application looked pretty good but my lack of publications for the past few years ruined by application. As for company jobs, nothing even at interns level. Given the outbreak, I also cannot go out to do networking.

clean

QuoteGiven the outbreak, I also cannot go out to do networking.

So you saved the time it took to commute to visit and now have more time to electronically network. Instead of bemoaning the things that you can not control, why not focus on what you CAN do to improve your situation?  There are alternatives available.  For now, just communicate with your contacts to ask "How are you coping with this situation?"
"The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am"  Darth Vader

hamburger

Thanks for the suggestions. Will do.

The majority of the students in this school just drags me down and dealing with their demands and excuses just drives me crazy. In less than three weeks, I will be unemployed. Don't know if there will be teaching duty for me in the summer.

Aster

Unless you're teaching a class where feedback from completed assessments is an integral part of your curriculum (e.g. writing classes), you have no obligation to return assessments to students. Assessments at all levels (creation, distribution, grading, return) are the sole discretion of the professor.

Heck, I barely ever got any assessments returned during my undergraduate degree. And half of the ones that I did get returned I could tell were only done so to clean out the professor's filing cabinets.

Ruralguy

Unless of course the school says that you *must* return any work within X days, as mine does.
Its not enforced up front, but if the evaluation process uncovers the fact that the faculty member does not grade work, then that could lead to problems.

mamselle

I always got commented work back...and this was at a huge midwestern school (OSU) whether with 40 in an English lit or architecture history lecture, or 15 in French grammar/comp class.

I've always returned my students' commented work, either in class, in person, or in labeled envelopes in the hall outside the Adjunct office door (along with others), or electronically (scanned,/photographed and sent to their email addresses).

That, also ranged from 50 in an intro to art/architecture lecture, or 12 in French I.

I don't want their papers, generally (I've copied a couple really good ones from time to time, of course) and I don't see how they learn without reflection on their return demonstrations (i.e., essays, etc.).

A friend says he asks for an SASE if they want their papers back, and gets maybe 1-2 per course. But he teaches at a busness-y like school where history is viewed as just "something to get through" and runs it like a high school class (having subbed for him a couple times, I know) with "History Jeopardy" games on Fridays and such.

I don't sub for him anymore...

M.
Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding.

Reprove not a scorner, lest they hate thee: rebuke the wise, and they will love thee.

Give instruction to the wise, and they will be yet wiser: teach the just, and they will increase in learning.

Aster

Quote from: Ruralguy on April 05, 2020, 11:14:35 AM
Unless of course the school says that you *must* return any work within X days, as mine does.
Its not enforced up front, but if the evaluation process uncovers the fact that the faculty member does not grade work, then that could lead to problems.

Ugh, that degree of administrative interference in academic freedom would be viewed in my discipline as toxic. Edu-wonks gone wild.

Ruralguy

I'm actually at the least bureaucratic place I've ever experienced...advantages of being at a small private school.

Some of the rules look strict, but there's leeway in interpreting them. For instance, as long as you say  on syllabus that the work handed in was just an "ungraded exercise" or something like that, then there's no real expectation of return. However, if it counts for a grade, you have to return it, and I am actually in agreement with that.