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catching Chegg cheaters

Started by centurion, April 27, 2020, 03:49:10 PM

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evil_physics_witchcraft

Quote from: hamburger on May 09, 2020, 08:24:02 AM
How about posting a bunch of incorrect answers using different accounts?

Unfortunately, you need to pay to see the answers and I think the 'tutors' are the only ones who can answer, but I'm not 100% on that.

Ruralguy

Just let 'em cheat.  Seriously. Most don't do very well even when they cheat, and unless you have tons of evidence, nothing much will happen to them if you catch them.

So, unless you catch an obvious cheater red-handed and/or it really enhances their grade, I'd just drop it.

FishProf

I just busted 3 of 18 students copying Quizlet answers on their exam.  Fail.

But I won;t lose sleep over the thought that someone might have slipped through....
I'd rather have questions I can't answer, than answers I can't question.

evil_physics_witchcraft

Quote from: FishProf on May 09, 2020, 01:17:25 PM
I just busted 3 of 18 students copying Quizlet answers on their exam.  Fail.

But I won;t lose sleep over the thought that someone might have slipped through....

Did any of them admit to it?

FishProf

One is currently arguing that she "takes academic integrity very seriously" but can't explain how a paragraph answer is verbatim, including the nunbering scheme
I'd rather have questions I can't answer, than answers I can't question.

clean

QuoteJust let 'em cheat.

Bullshit.  Why not just give them all As and cash your paycheck?  IF YOU dont care about the quality of the students that you graduate from your institution, then soon enough neither will the employers.  The employers WILL find some OTHER institution that DOES deliver an educated work force.

Do the paperwork to report the cheating.  Let the word get out that there IS a price to be paid for cheating.  IF the price is high enough, students will not risk it. 

Im reminded of a quote, "The only thing keeping people honest is the fear of getting caught". 
Raise the Fear Factor!
"The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am"  Darth Vader

clean

Damn my test must be hard!!
Another student has posted their exam on Chegg!
They are a public company. I may have to look to see how I can cash in on their exploitation of students!
"The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am"  Darth Vader

evil_physics_witchcraft

Quote from: clean on May 09, 2020, 06:43:09 PM
Damn my test must be hard!!
Another student has posted their exam on Chegg!
They are a public company. I may have to look to see how I can cash in on their exploitation of students!

Have you contacted your Chair or Dean? They will not tell you anything unless a Chair or Dean contacts them.

Caracal

Quote from: Ruralguy on May 09, 2020, 12:56:09 PM
Just let 'em cheat.  Seriously. Most don't do very well even when they cheat, and unless you have tons of evidence, nothing much will happen to them if you catch them.

So, unless you catch an obvious cheater red-handed and/or it really enhances their grade, I'd just drop it.

Yeah...if the dean actually goes through with all of this and contacts Chegg, and if Chegg eventually gets back to you with account or credit card info, there's a good chance the account would just be linked to a random student your student borrowed it from.

arcturus

As I understand it, Clean gave individualized exams (different numbers for each student) so does not have to contact Chegg to determine which student(s) have posted. If the next step in the reporting process is a conversation with the suspected students (as is the case at my institution), Clean can probably get a confession and will not need "proof" from Chegg.  My experience with these conversations is that most students, and in particular the ones who are fully aware that what they have done is cheating, are willing to confess when prompted.

FishProf

I have to recant my accusations.  Students DID have directly quoted material from Quizlet (et al.), but the showed me their notes, created Pre-CV19 that they used to answer the questions.

So, yeah, they copied, to their notes, before they ever had online open-note exams.

Can't really drop the hammer here.
I'd rather have questions I can't answer, than answers I can't question.

clean

QuoteAs I understand it, Clean gave individualized exams (different numbers for each student) so does not have to contact Chegg to determine which student(s) have posted. If the next step in the reporting process is a conversation with the suspected students (as is the case at my institution), Clean can probably get a confession and will not need "proof" from Chegg.

I did give individualized exams, so with all of the different combinations of numbers, each one has a very unique exam.  Every exam, like fingerprints, is unique.

The one I caught first has confessed, apologized and will be getting a much reduced exam score rather than an F in the course.  The other student was caught only yesterday and has not replied to my email. 

I have communicated with Chegg to remove my exams from their site.  The first email got a response yesterday that they got my request and that it takes a few business days to conclude.  (Why it takes days to take off, when I understand from here that students can post and get answers in as much  time! is a frustration).
"The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am"  Darth Vader

Caracal

Quote from: arcturus on May 10, 2020, 04:53:23 AM
As I understand it, Clean gave individualized exams (different numbers for each student) so does not have to contact Chegg to determine which student(s) have posted. If the next step in the reporting process is a conversation with the suspected students (as is the case at my institution), Clean can probably get a confession and will not need "proof" from Chegg.  My experience with these conversations is that most students, and in particular the ones who are fully aware that what they have done is cheating, are willing to confess when prompted.

oh yeah, wasn't referring to Clean, but was talking about the other cases.

evil_physics_witchcraft


clean

"The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am"  Darth Vader