Should I now submit my fora-sourced scam article to a scam journal?

[traductio]

Last month y'all helped me write a scam article for a scam journal (http://thefora.org/index.php?topic=1363.0). And it's awesome.

The editor of the scam journal contacted me again -- they really want my eminent contribution.

Should I send it?

Here's what I'd do -- I'd set up a dummy gmail account. (No way I'm sending the submission from my real school account, even though that's where the editor contacts me.) Then, after giving everyone who's contributed time to make any last corrections, I'd submit it in the name of the Fora Collective. Just copy and paste into a Word doc, then send it on its merry way.

Thoughts?

[Wahoo Redux]

This research and should be shared with the world.  The scoops vs spoons debate is too important to be scooped or spooned under the place-mat. 

If there is an acceptance (oh please!) and a fee, perhaps we could set up some sort of Paypal or something to defray costs.

[mamselle]

Go for it!

Hilarious!

....and if it's printed, so much the better.

Should someone give a reference to KFC (Kissy-Face College) from the Old Forum, somewhere, just to show we have respectable roots?

Maybe cite Anthroid on something?

(Come to think of it, did we do due diligence by searching the Old Forum for any pertinent "ice cream" references? We don't want to do those folks out of a citation.... I might could volunteer to put a bit of time towards it if it's not too late.)

M.

[research_prof]

Last month y'all helped me write a scam article for a scam journal (http://thefora.org/index.php?topic=1363.0). And it's awesome.

The editor of the scam journal contacted me again -- they really want my eminent contribution.

Should I send it?

Here's what I'd do -- I'd set up a dummy gmail account. (No way I'm sending the submission from my real school account, even though that's where the editor contacts me.) Then, after giving everyone who's contributed time to make any last corrections, I'd submit it in the name of the Fora Collective. Just copy and paste into a Word doc, then send it on its merry way.

Thoughts?

Do you have to pay to get it published? :-P

[Puget]

As long as you're not planning to give them any actual money, I'm all for it! Afterward you can get famous writing up the experience and posting the paper along with the correspondence from the journal and any resulting "peer review"-- I'm sure the academic social media world would enjoy this.

We do still need a Results section. If I get my actual writing task for the day done this afternoon I'll go over to the other thread and draft it.

[traductio]

As long as you're not planning to give them any actual money, I'm all for it! Afterward you can get famous writing up the experience and posting the paper along with the correspondence from the journal and any resulting "peer review"-- I'm sure the academic social media world would enjoy this.

It does feel a bit like a cheaper version of the Sokal Affair, but with lower stakes, as I'm not going after a major journal. Bringing down a scam journal seems like less of a coup, but a lot more fun.

[Parasaurolophus]

I think you absolutely should, but I don't think it's ready yet! For one thing, we need a results section and some discussion of those results. I can't do any work on it today, but definitely can over the next few days.

[mythbuster]

I agree with Puget- yes as long as no money involved. As for results we certainly need a pretty diagram of the monte carlo setup!

[Puget]

I think you absolutely should, but I don't think it's ready yet! For one thing, we need a results section and some discussion of those results. I can't do any work on it today, but definitely can over the next few days.

OK, I've now added the Procedure and Results section (with real stats!). Although the data are fabricated (I mean, simulated) and the sample size is small, I feel confident that our effects are robust and replicable. The Discussion still needs some work.

[mamselle]

OOh, Oooh, I can do pretty graphs...


Hmmmm....do I recall there a graph called an Ice-Cream-Cone variability chart?.....with a curved area on one end and a pointy V at the other...??

   n n
(      )
  \    /
   \  /
    V

    Well, but, hmm... you can't have two x's for a given y, can you? (Or can you?)

    I can figure out the plot points to make it happen, I think...something like this:

   x           y
   0           0
  0.5         1
-0.5         1
   1.0        2
-1.0         2
  1.5         3
-1.5         3
  2.0         4
-2.0         4

gives the cone part....I'll have to play with a parabola, maybe, for a good top, or...any other suggestions?

And then how do we retro-fit the equations to the graph and the whole thing to our findings somehow?

Can the equal + and  - plot-points against y show the equally valuable use of scoops and spoons?

Or something else consistent with our findings?

Can we attach an Excel file, or insert an object if I save it as a .jpg or .png?

(What kind of resolution do they want?)

M.

[apl68]

As long as you're not planning to give them any actual money, I'm all for it! Afterward you can get famous writing up the experience and posting the paper along with the correspondence from the journal and any resulting "peer review"-- I'm sure the academic social media world would enjoy this.

It does feel a bit like a cheaper version of the Sokal Affair, but with lower stakes, as I'm not going after a major journal. Bringing down a scam journal seems like less of a coup, but a lot more fun.

It can feel good to hit the target, even if the target is a barn door.

[science.expat]

You have to submit this! 😉

[mamselle]

Who voted "no"?

Why??

Hmph.

M.

[Wahoo Redux]

Who voted "no"?

Why??

Hmph.

M.

An anti-ice-creamite. 

Pay no attention.

[mamselle]

Oh, one of them.

Ok.

M.