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Where do Republicans go from here?

Started by Sun_Worshiper, February 01, 2021, 07:25:47 AM

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lightning

Quote from: mahagonny on March 06, 2021, 05:25:19 AM
Quote from: lightning on March 05, 2021, 11:06:35 PM
Quote from: mahagonny on March 05, 2021, 02:47:01 PM
QuoteAs for being a party that traditional minorities could see as an option, any Republican gains among the traditional minority voters, were probably lost when the treasonous insurrectionists brought the Confederate Flag into the Capitol Building and revealed who they really are.

Not convinced at all by what you post. The people who did that revealed who they are, not who the 74 million are. The minorities who voted for Trump in 2020 have been hearing he's a racist for his entire political career, and they either don't believe it or consider it a nitpicking charge.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything because that would be a lost cause. A vote for Trump was a vote for the man that incited the insurrection and the Lost Cause, and there were 74 million of them. They are complicit. As for the slight bump in African-American and LatinoX support for Trump, that does not negate Trump's (and now the Republican party's) xenophobic & bigoted platform.

This is not my idea of discussing. This is more like fencing. I'm just going to duck when I see you coming.

You're only going to stop ducking now? You've been ducking for months.

I'm sure that the Fora is tired of our exchanges. I certainly got tired of sparring with you, and I certainly have much better things to do, and so does the fora.

So, I'm asking, please let it go. I know you probably won't, but this is one opportunity where you can prove that I'm wrong.

mahagonny

Prediction (also what I hope): by 2022 or at the latest, 2024, a critical mass of voters will be really tired of politicians, academics, celebrities and media fretting and fuming about racism. Droning on about racism will cost a politician more than it will pay off.
It's fun to speculate. Who knows what's coming. Anyone who says they do is a liar.

lightning

Quote from: mahagonny on March 06, 2021, 07:06:56 AM
Prediction (also what I hope): by 2022 or at the latest, 2024, a critical mass of voters will be really tired of politicians, academics, celebrities and media fretting and fuming about racism. Droning on about racism will cost a politician more than it will pay off.
It's fun to speculate. Who knows what's coming. Anyone who says they do is a liar.

If find it interesting (although not surprising, as you are very predictable), that when I countered with three separate points on three separate topics that were discussed in the Mark Mitchell article, the only counter you had was for the topic on race, and ignoring the other two. You're the one with the fixation on race, and there is a critical mass of fora members who are really tired of it.

mahagonny

Now that a critical mass of fora readers is tired of something that I do, according to you, what are they going to do with that power?

critical mass: a size, number, or amount large enough to produce a particular result (Merriam-Webster online)

Also, you don't need a comma between subject and predicate.

QuoteAs for being a party that traditional minorities could see as an option, any Republican gains among the traditional minority voters, were probably lost when the treasonous insurrectionists brought the Confederate Flag into the Capitol Building and revealed who they really are.






lightning

Quote from: mahagonny on March 06, 2021, 11:29:04 AM
Also, you don't need a comma between subject and predicate.

QuoteAs for being a party that traditional minorities could see as an option, any Republican gains among the traditional minority voters, were probably lost when the treasonous insurrectionists brought the Confederate Flag into the Capitol Building and revealed who they really are.

Grammar policing a clarifying comma is all ya got?!?


Quote from: mahagonny on March 06, 2021, 11:29:04 AM
Now that a critical mass of fora readers is tired of something that I do, according to you, what are they going to do with that power?

critical mass: a size, number, or amount large enough to produce a particular result (Merriam-Webster online)

Just because the fora is sick of you, doesn't mean it should silence you. This was discussed on another thread & partially in PM. You have the freedom to continue to make yourself look like a fool, if you so choose. Carry on.

mahagonny

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Quote from: lightning on March 06, 2021, 12:50:38 PM

Quote from: mahagonny on March 06, 2021, 11:29:04 AM
Now that a critical mass of fora readers is tired of something that I do, according to you, what are they going to do with that power?

critical mass: a size, number, or amount large enough to produce a particular result (Merriam-Webster online)

Just because the fora is sick of you, doesn't mean it should silence you. This was discussed on another thread & partially in PM.

We all know that. Therefore, there is no result to be envisioned, and the 'critical mass' you're thinking of is a majority.
The fact that you haven't been banned does not mean people have been enjoying your contributions. Something to think about.

on edit: anyone posting ideas about what the republican party should do next that actually show some interest in conservative values runs the risk of being quite unpopular among a good number of academics.

This is an example of the kind of stuff that counts as thoughtful around here:

'Re: Where do Republicans go from here?'

Quote from: Parasaurolophus on February 01, 2021, 10:04:21 AM
'Away' would be nice.

mahagonny


spork

It's terrible writing, used to obfuscate the fact that the authors actually have nothing to say.

mahagonny

Thing is, it just ends up as a stupid tit-for-tat exchange. Someone on the right is exposed in a relationship that is considered illicit, then someone else posts about a democrat with the same problem (well, that probably wouldn't happen on this far-lefty forum, but since everybody's seeing it on the news, it might as well be). And so on.

Quote from: spork on March 30, 2021, 04:50:03 PM
On road trips with minors?

lightning

Quote from: mahagonny on March 30, 2021, 07:19:18 PM
Thing is, it just ends up as a stupid tit-for-tat exchange. Someone on the right is exposed in a relationship that is considered illicit, then someone else posts about a democrat with the same problem (well, that probably wouldn't happen on this far-lefty forum, but since everybody's seeing it on the news, it might as well be). And so on.

Quote from: spork on March 30, 2021, 04:50:03 PM
On road trips with minors?

It's a smart move, on the part of the Republicans, since it will distract media attention away from all of their voter suppression bills.

mahagonny

Internet search 'Matt Gaetz': five million hits
Internet Search 'Georgia Voting': 843 milllion

Sun_Worshiper

If you haven't already, check out The Swamp on HBO, and you'll see that Gaetz actually is on the right side of a few issues, like campaign finance and reigning in executive overreach, but he's also a MAGA bootlicker and happily throws away all of his principles when it comes to Trump Admin activities. Quite a walking contradiction.

Oh well. I'm sure we'll all miss him, but he should be back on the scene in three-to-nine.

Parasaurolophus

Quote from: mahagonny on March 30, 2021, 07:19:18 PM
Thing is, it just ends up as a stupid tit-for-tat exchange. Someone on the right is exposed in a relationship that is considered illicit, then someone else posts about a democrat with the same problem (well, that probably wouldn't happen on this far-lefty forum, but since everybody's seeing it on the news, it might as well be). And so on.

Quote from: spork on March 30, 2021, 04:50:03 PM
On road trips with minors?

It's not that it's 'considered illicit'. It's that it literally satisfies the definition of sex trafficking a minor.
I know it's a genus.

downer

The investigation was opened during the Trump administration. People in the Trump administration knew about it. I wonder whether Donnie was hoping to add it to his file of the dirt he has on people.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."—Sinclair Lewis

ciao_yall

Quote from: downer on March 31, 2021, 08:47:41 AM
The investigation was opened during the Trump administration. People in the Trump administration knew about it. I wonder whether Donnie was hoping to add it to his file of the dirt he has on people.

Good point.

I also wonder if this is trying to distract people from his "adopted son." Because somehow a fling with a 17 year old girl is more acceptable than with a 19 year old boy?