Cancelling Dr. Seuss

[Wahoo Redux]

This is exactly the sort of contempt for and refusal even to try to understand different points of view

I love you apl, but you've just pointed out the beam in your eye.

I've read your comments.  You are not always accepting of different points of view.

[Wahoo Redux]

It's not about a book or set of books,  and it's not about the specific things one does or doesn't do to educate a child. It's about who has the authority to decide. This must be, and will be, decided through politics.

It's about censorship. You should be able to go into a library and read Jay Sekulow, James Dobson, Christopher Hitchens, the Dead Kennedys, Catherine Castro, and the Duggars, no problem.

But there are, as always, certain segments of the population who do not want some of these people on the list and will hide their prejudice behind some elevated-sounding dogma as they try to remove the names they don't want, as you would do here.

This is why it is important for library admin to take a side and fight for a cause.

[dismalist]

It's not about a book or set of books,  and it's not about the specific things one does or doesn't do to educate a child. It's about who has the authority to decide. This must be, and will be, decided through politics.

It's about censorship. You should be able to go into a library and read Jay Sekulow, James Dobson, Christopher Hitchens, the Dead Kennedys, Catherine Castro, and the Duggars, no problem.

But there are, as always, certain segments of the population who do not want some of these people on the list and will hide their prejudice behind some elevated-sounding dogma as they try to remove the names they don't want, as you would do here.

This is why it is important for library admin to take a side and fight for a cause.

Should, should, should. Other people have different shoulds. They disagree with you. They will fight for a cause.

Separate libraries would do the trick!

[onthefringe]

Should, should, should. Other people have different shoulds. They disagree with you. They will fight for a cause.

Separate libraries would do the trick!

The trick could also be achieved by people realizing that in a public library intended for the broad community their are going to be items that may not conform to your taste or moral code.

I'm in!

[dismalist]

Should, should, should. Other people have different shoulds. They disagree with you. They will fight for a cause.

Separate libraries would do the trick!

The trick could also be achieved by people realizing that in a public library intended for the broad community their are going to be items that may not conform to your taste or moral code.

I'm in!

That requires people who don't agree with you to conform to your views. That's what they're not doing.

What's going on here is not about books. It's about how people who disagree with each other can live together peaceably.

Diverse libraries and schools is one way to ensure that nobody has to conform.

[Wahoo Redux]

Should, should, should. Other people have different shoulds. They disagree with you. They will fight for a cause.

I know.  We call them bigots and control freaks.  Their "cause" is to shut down anyone who disagrees with them.  That really does not work in our society.

You know, you do have separate libraries at your religious colleges, megachurches, and Christian bookstores. 

[Wahoo Redux]

What's going on here is not about books. It's about how people who disagree with each other can live together peaceably.

Diverse libraries and schools is one way to ensure that nobody has to conform.

!!!!????

What about the "separate libraries?"

[dismalist]

What's going on here is not about books. It's about how people who disagree with each other can live together peaceably.

Diverse libraries and schools is one way to ensure that nobody has to conform.

!!!!????

What about the "separate libraries?"

"Diverse" libraries means "many different libraries".

Of course some of us  can have these if we pay for them ourselves. Others cannot afford such.. Whether they will be able to will be decided through politics.

I know.  We call them bigots and control freaks.  Their "cause" is to shut down anyone who disagrees with them.  That really does not work in our society.

Each side can call the other that. It's just name-calling.

So, how to peaceably deal with differences of beliefs? Separate libraries and schools.

[onthefringe]

What's going on here is not about books. It's about how people who disagree with each other can live together peaceably.

Diverse libraries and schools is one way to ensure that nobody has to conform.

!!!!????

What about the "separate libraries?"

"Diverse" libraries means "many different libraries".

Of course some of us  can have these if we pay for them ourselves. Others cannot afford such.. Whether they will be able to will be decided through politics.

I know.  We call them bigots and control freaks.  Their "cause" is to shut down anyone who disagrees with them.  That really does not work in our society.

Each side can call the other that. It's just name-calling.

So, how to peaceably deal with differences of beliefs? Separate libraries and schools.

Well, how about separate wings of the same library? Or maybe separate shelves? Or maybe (and I know it's crazy) separate books in the same library and don't take out the ones that offend you?

[dismalist]

What's going on here is not about books. It's about how people who disagree with each other can live together peaceably.

Diverse libraries and schools is one way to ensure that nobody has to conform.

!!!!????

What about the "separate libraries?"

"Diverse" libraries means "many different libraries".

Of course some of us  can have these if we pay for them ourselves. Others cannot afford such.. Whether they will be able to will be decided through politics.

I know.  We call them bigots and control freaks.  Their "cause" is to shut down anyone who disagrees with them.  That really does not work in our society.

Each side can call the other that. It's just name-calling.

So, how to peaceably deal with differences of beliefs? Separate libraries and schools.

Well, how about separate wings of the same library? Or maybe separate shelves? Or maybe (and I know it's crazy) separate books in the same library and don't take out the ones that offend you?

The offensive bit for some is having books they don't like being available. Therefore, there must be separation. Who owns the library?

Berlin Walls between tracts of existing library buildings would work. New buildings far enough apart to prevent cross pollution is easy.

Large warning signs at crossovers within and between buildings: Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter here!

The problem is symmetric. It's about disagreement.

[Wahoo Redux]

The offensive bit for some is having books they don't like being available. Therefore, there must be separation. Who owns the library?

Berlin Walls between tracts of existing library buildings would work. New buildings far enough apart to prevent cross pollution is easy.

Large warning signs at crossovers within and between buildings: Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter here!

The problem is symmetric. It's about disagreement.

I can't tell if you are now being satiric. 

You know that you are defending quintessential snowflakes.

Each side can call the other that. It's just name-calling.

And each side is right.  Don't shut down the Christians.  Don't shut down LGBTQ peeps.

And it is not just name calling.  Bigots and control-freaks are who try to censor. 

The answer to who owns the libraries has been posted multiple times.  It's just not the answer you want.  The idea of separate libraries is ridiculous.

[dismalist]

The answer to who owns the libraries has been posted multiple times.  It's just not the answer you want.  The idea of separate libraries is ridiculous.

Hence, the political determination of ownership continues.

[Wahoo Redux]

The answer to who owns the libraries has been posted multiple times.  It's just not the answer you want.  The idea of separate libraries is ridiculous.

Hence, the political determination of ownership continues.

Let it continue.  This needs to be hashed out, not surrendered to.

[nebo113]

Please, Wahoo, spare us the Duggars.....tee hee.

[Wahoo Redux]

Please, Wahoo, spare us the Duggars.....tee hee.

I'm sorry, but even the Duggars are not spared the Duggars.