Lucifer aka Satan

[Anselm]

if Lucifer sinned before Eve, why does she get all the blame for sin?  Serious question.  I'm not a Biblical scholar, nor a believer, but am genuinely curious.

I am pretty sure that in Catholic theology Original Sin begins with Adam, not Eve.  She broke the rules first but all of humanity inherits OS from Adam.

[Hegemony]

In the Middle Ages, the point was repeatedly made that the Virgin Mary undid the sin that Eve committed, in a kind of parallel sequence. Though sometimes the focus is on Adam eating the apple, as being male he is considered the main player. However, though they both were expelled from the Garden, Eve got the extra punishment of labor pains, so there was a tendency to keep refocusing on Eve's part.

[mamselle]

Yes, that's the 'Ave fit ex Eva' theme.

M.

[nebo113]

Thank you all for this intriguing discussion.  Lots of food for thought....and a re-reading of Restaurant at the End of the Universe.

[marshwiggle]

if Lucifer sinned before Eve, why does she get all the blame for sin?  Serious question.  I'm not a Biblical scholar, nor a believer, but am genuinely curious.

I am pretty sure that in Catholic theology Original Sin begins with Adam, not Eve.  She broke the rules first but all of humanity inherits OS from Adam.

I've never heard it explicitly stated, but that would fit with the idea that Jesus, being conceived by the Holy Spirit, rather than a man, could escape the inheritance of original sin.

[mythbuster]

Yes. The Immaculate Conception refers to the miracle of Mary being born without original sin- not Jesus as many non-Catholics presume. This was needed for her to be the vessel through which we get Jesus. Sinless mother and Holy Spirit Father produces the messiah.