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Another Seuss Cancellation Thread (Summer 2023)

Started by Parasaurolophus, June 21, 2023, 03:01:13 PM

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IHE: Book on Princeton Syllabus Sparks Conflict

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QuoteUniversity leaders are fielding demands to remove a book, deemed antisemitic by some and a legitimate criticism of Israel by others, from a course syllabus.

QuoteA book included on a course syllabus at Princeton University has sparked controversy on and beyond the New Jersey campus. Some Jewish campus community members and onlookers contend that the book peddles antisemitic tropes and false assertions about Israeli policy and should be removed from the course. Others—including some academic freedom advocates and a non-Zionist Jewish student group—say the book raises valid concerns about Israel's treatment of Palestinians and scrubbing the text from the course would infringe on the professor's rights.
Come, fill the Cup, and in the fire of Spring
Your Winter-garment of Repentance fling:
The Bird of Time has but a little way
To flutter--and the Bird is on the Wing.

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Quote from: kaysixteen on August 24, 2023, 10:31:14 PMCould you actually point to any court case in the US, where an artist has successfully sued to establish said 'rights'?   There may have occasionally been such cases, *under the radar*, but as I noted, Americans would never tolerate widespread attempts to enshrine such 'rights' under law.

Dude, just use Google.

A Stunning Legal Decision Just Upheld a $6.75 Million Victory for the Street Artists Whose Works Were Destroyed at the 5Pointz Graffiti Mecca

Copyright in the Courts: How Moral Rights Won the Battle of the Mural.  I know you were looking for America, but India, no less.

Moral Rights Case: Trinity Church in Manhattan

Artists score early win in lawsuit over NYC jail demolition

"Artist Obtains Compensation From City for Destruction of Her Murals," Davis Wright Tremaine Pro Bono Report

And there's a bunch more.
Come, fill the Cup, and in the fire of Spring
Your Winter-garment of Repentance fling:
The Bird of Time has but a little way
To flutter--and the Bird is on the Wing.

Parasaurolophus

Quote from: kaysixteen on August 24, 2023, 10:31:14 PMCould you actually point to any court case in the US, where an artist has successfully sued to establish said 'rights'?  There may have occasionally been such cases, *under the radar*, but as I noted, Americans would never tolerate widespread attempts to enshrine such 'rights' under law.

What you're squeamish about are the rights to the integrity of the work. There are other moral rights artists exercise every day which presumably you're happy with, such as the right of attribution and, conversely, not to have things attributed to you without your knowledge or consent.

To answer your question, here are a few that deal with the integrity clause:

Gilliam v. American Broadcasting

Massachusetts Museum of Contemporary Art Foundation v. Büchel

Martin v. City of Indianapolis

Marc Jancou Fine Art Ltd. v. Sotheby's, Inc. (mixes non-attribution and integrity)

There are lots of settled cases, too, such as Kent Twitchell's against the US government and East Los Streetscapers against Shell.

I know it's a genus.


marshwiggle

Quote from: jimbogumbo on August 31, 2023, 02:14:29 PMIs there no justice? Another clown fetishist is cancelled.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/08/31/clown-fetish-professor-kent-northern-illinois-nicholls-state/70603544007/


That is a creepy story. The guy sounds pretty weird. And there's this:
QuoteOver the years, two students reported him to campus police; others complained online. He left Kent State University after pleading no contest to something different: a theft charge that involved entering his peers' offices without permission and taking a USB drive.

Police records show that officers did investigate when Tokosh was accused of breaking into geography department offices. A blotter item in the local newspaper shows police obtained an arrest warrant in connection with a third-degree felony burglary charge. Court documents indicate Tokosh pleaded no contest to a theft on Oct. 19, 2018.
It takes so little to be above average.

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Come, fill the Cup, and in the fire of Spring
Your Winter-garment of Repentance fling:
The Bird of Time has but a little way
To flutter--and the Bird is on the Wing.


Parasaurolophus

Quote from: jimbogumbo on August 31, 2023, 02:14:29 PMIs there no justice? Another clown fetishist is cancelled.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/08/31/clown-fetish-professor-kent-northern-illinois-nicholls-state/70603544007/



I hate clowns. So much. They're just awful, worse even than puppets. <shudder>

The cancellers deserve some kind of award. Like, a free speech merit badge or something, because the world is a better, freer place now.
I know it's a genus.

jimbogumbo

Quote from: Parasaurolophus on August 31, 2023, 10:53:03 PM
Quote from: jimbogumbo on August 31, 2023, 02:14:29 PMIs there no justice? Another clown fetishist is cancelled.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/08/31/clown-fetish-professor-kent-northern-illinois-nicholls-state/70603544007/



I hate clowns. So much. They're just awful, worse even than puppets. <shudder>

The cancellers deserve some kind of award. Like, a free speech merit badge or something, because the world is a better, freer place now.

EVERYONE loves this clown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlt3rA-oDao

Juvenal

Distant Days...

I think there's a little stale weed around here somewhere  Are you a Bozo, too?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82gfZ4jxAyc


Cranky septuagenarian

Parasaurolophus

Quote from: jimbogumbo on September 01, 2023, 09:40:01 AM
Quote from: Parasaurolophus on August 31, 2023, 10:53:03 PM
Quote from: jimbogumbo on August 31, 2023, 02:14:29 PMIs there no justice? Another clown fetishist is cancelled.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/08/31/clown-fetish-professor-kent-northern-illinois-nicholls-state/70603544007/



I hate clowns. So much. They're just awful, worse even than puppets. <shudder>

The cancellers deserve some kind of award. Like, a free speech merit badge or something, because the world is a better, freer place now.

EVERYONE loves this clown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlt3rA-oDao


noonononono
I know it's a genus.

Wahoo Redux

Quote from: jimbogumbo on September 01, 2023, 09:40:01 AM
Quote from: Parasaurolophus on August 31, 2023, 10:53:03 PM
Quote from: jimbogumbo on August 31, 2023, 02:14:29 PMIs there no justice? Another clown fetishist is cancelled.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/08/31/clown-fetish-professor-kent-northern-illinois-nicholls-state/70603544007/



I hate clowns. So much. They're just awful, worse even than puppets. <shudder>

The cancellers deserve some kind of award. Like, a free speech merit badge or something, because the world is a better, freer place now.

EVERYONE loves this clown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlt3rA-oDao

Every once in a while during the political seasons SNL is brilliant.
Come, fill the Cup, and in the fire of Spring
Your Winter-garment of Repentance fling:
The Bird of Time has but a little way
To flutter--and the Bird is on the Wing.

marshwiggle

Remember the story about the shop teacher with huge fake breasts? (See post#1575 in the archived Seuss Cancellation thread.)

Here's that latest.
Teacher who wore Z-sized prosthetic breasts left Halton board willingly: Report

From the article:
QuoteLemieux has re-emerged at Nora Frances Henderson Secondary School in Hamilton, which falls under the purview of the Hamilton-Wentworth District School Board.

The 40-year-old shop teacher arrived on campus this week sporting facial hair and male clothing and without the prosthetic breasts or wig.

And in a commentary article:
QuoteThough perhaps in hindsight it wasn't the teacher who was problematic but the school and board administrators who went along with Lemieux's charade and now look all the more foolish.

As for his reasonings, there has been speculation that his motivation was an anti-woke agenda while others have claimed the whole thing was in response to a dispute and disciplinary action from school administrators.

Whatever the reasons, Lemieux may very well have punked us all simply because no one in the education system had the sense to say no.

As had been speculated earlier, all of the progressive emphasis on "self-identification" alone (and accepting whatever bizarre accommodations it implies) is just begging for all kinds of abuse.
It takes so little to be above average.

Langue_doc

There were photos of the shop teacher going places/doing errands dressed like a male, with short hair and no boobs whatsoever earlier this year. Allowing an educator to "take a stand" in a primary school of all places and subjecting children to huge prosthetic breasts and visible nipples was beyond outrageous as was instituting new security procedures for the individual at the expense of the children.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/canadian-trans-teacher-known-for-massive-prosthetic-breasts-shows-up-to-school-as-man/
QuoteNotably, Lemieux's prosthesis didn't break any school policies at the time because the district simply lacked a professional dress code. The loophole led director of educator Curtis Ennis, Halton's director of education, to clarify in an interview at the time: "The dress code is for students, and the dress code is not for staff." Although students are explicitly prohibited from having visible nipples, Lemieux was given a pass for months as HDSB dithered.
QuoteThe district has "an obligation to uphold individual rights and treat everyone with dignity and respect" and "should the school be subject to any disruptions or protests; we are committed to communicating with you as openly and as frequently as possible to ensure student safety — and to share any operational plans," the principal wrote in a letter first obtained by the Toronto Sun.

The administrator also alerted local parents to new security measures that would be instituted in the wake of the Lemieux's attendance, including "having students enter and exit the building using assigned doors at entry and dismissal" and "locking exterior doors during school hours, only using the front main doors during school hours."

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Quote from: marshwiggle on September 09, 2023, 05:49:09 AMAs had been speculated earlier, all of the progressive emphasis on "self-identification" alone (and accepting whatever bizarre accommodations it implies) is just begging for all kinds of abuse.

Then, by all means, let us abuse people who are different than we are.

Christ Himself would, no doubt, agree.
Come, fill the Cup, and in the fire of Spring
Your Winter-garment of Repentance fling:
The Bird of Time has but a little way
To flutter--and the Bird is on the Wing.