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IHE: Another 3-year degree

Started by Wahoo Redux, October 24, 2024, 01:24:01 PM

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methodsman

Quote from: Hegemony on October 31, 2024, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: secundem_artem on October 31, 2024, 01:22:45 PMAnd lord knows, we have ZERO evidence that our gen ed curriculum actually results in any meaningful outcomes. 

 If the students are passing the classes, and that means that they've done the work and learned something, that's what I count as meaningful.

This is an entirely flawed faculty-centric view of education.  Passing grades is not assessment. Demonstrating new abilities and skills is.

mm   

marshwiggle

Quote from: methodsman on November 01, 2024, 06:08:51 AM
Quote from: Hegemony on October 31, 2024, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: secundem_artem on October 31, 2024, 01:22:45 PMAnd lord knows, we have ZERO evidence that our gen ed curriculum actually results in any meaningful outcomes. 

 If the students are passing the classes, and that means that they've done the work and learned something, that's what I count as meaningful.

This is an entirely flawed faculty-centric view of education.  Passing grades is not assessment. Demonstrating new abilities and skills is.

mm   

And a pretty low bar, to boot.
It takes so little to be above average.

Wahoo Redux

Quote from: methodsman on November 01, 2024, 06:08:51 AMPassing grades is not assessment. Demonstrating new abilities and skills is.

We all know that there are professors who hand out passing grades like candy, but most make their students work for the grade.

Yeah, a passing grade is at least one form of assessment. 
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