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Topic: Bang Your Head on Your Desk - the thread of teaching despair!

Started by the_geneticist, May 21, 2019, 08:49:54 AM

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apl68

You could try carrying a measuring tape wherever you go.  That way, if you wander into the wrong room you can pretend to take measurements of windows, desk, wall screen, or whatever else may be handy before going out. 
And you will cry out on that day because of the king you have chosen for yourselves, and the Lord will not hear you on that day.

the_geneticist

Quote from: apl68 on May 25, 2023, 07:33:54 AM
You could try carrying a measuring tape wherever you go.  That way, if you wander into the wrong room you can pretend to take measurements of windows, desk, wall screen, or whatever else may be handy before going out.

I love it!  Look very serious and write down things on a legal pad. 

ciao_yall

Quote from: the_geneticist on May 25, 2023, 09:10:12 AM
Quote from: apl68 on May 25, 2023, 07:33:54 AM
You could try carrying a measuring tape wherever you go.  That way, if you wander into the wrong room you can pretend to take measurements of windows, desk, wall screen, or whatever else may be handy before going out.

I love it!  Look very serious and write down things on a legal pad.

When I needed to walk and think at work, I would carry around a file folder and walk with a sense of purpose.

mythbuster

That what the old school lab timer is for. Back in grad school, those got me out of many a chat with the chatty Cathy's in the department!

RatGuy

Why do students sign up for a 4-week course knowing that they're going to miss a full week for vacation. I just heard a 20yo say , "I'm gonna miss June 1-8  because my daddy is taking us to the Bahamas." I wanted to respond "then this is not the class for you."

FishProf

I have a similar case.  Seven week class (12 meetings), student will miss 3 of them.  STU emailed me asking how he could "make up the labs"? 

You can't.  This is a field course.  Tomorrow we will be in the field for ~8hrs.  There is no way to recreate the experience of tromping through, and working in, a bog.
It's difficult to conclude what people really think when they reason from misinformation.

apl68

Quote from: FishProf on May 30, 2023, 08:54:42 AM
There is no way to recreate the experience of tromping through, and working in, a bog.

You must never have visited the dorm room my brother shared with his roommate before flunking out.  Or certain other dorm rooms I've heard about.
And you will cry out on that day because of the king you have chosen for yourselves, and the Lord will not hear you on that day.

FishProf

Quote from: apl68 on May 30, 2023, 10:43:18 AM
Quote from: FishProf on May 30, 2023, 08:54:42 AM
There is no way to recreate the experience of tromping through, and working in, a bog.

You must never have visited the dorm room my brother shared with his roommate before flunking out.  Or certain other dorm rooms I've heard about.

I'd be afraid to set, much less recover, the traps.
It's difficult to conclude what people really think when they reason from misinformation.

Istiblennius

We still have two weeks of Spring term + finals week. Day after memorial day and 1/3 of students are in class. And several of them have informed me they probably won't be back after this week. Why are we still doing this?

kaysixteen

You wanted to say that to the Bahama-bound sprite, but what *did* you say, and perhaps more importantly, at your school, what *could you do about this*?

RatGuy

Quote from: kaysixteen on May 30, 2023, 09:12:29 PM
You wanted to say that to the Bahama-bound sprite, but what *did* you say, and perhaps more importantly, at your school, what *could you do about this*?

I reminded her of the class policies -- due dates, hard copies, must be in class to submit work -- and suggested that she could submit the first assignment (due Monday) early. Instead, she dropped the course.

As an aside, my other fantasy response is to remind her that she's 20 years old, and maybe she's too told to call him "daddy."

OneMoreYear

Ugh. I just can't with this group of students. I assigned a scaffolding assignment for the final project, and a good number of students biffed it, mostly due to not fully following directions. I offered a small-points optional extra credit extension assignment to help students move forward. Two students plagiarized the extra credit. It wasn't worth sending academic integrity violation paperwork up the chain, as I would not be supported sending it for an optional extra credit assignment that was not on the syllabus, so I just assigned a 0 grade (with clear explanation to the students) and moved on. One of the plagiarists emailed asking if they could re-do the extra credit for a better grade. No, just no.

* kicker? grad students

evil_physics_witchcraft

Quote from: OneMoreYear on May 31, 2023, 09:29:03 AM
Ugh. I just can't with this group of students. I assigned a scaffolding assignment for the final project, and a good number of students biffed it, mostly due to not fully following directions. I offered a small-points optional extra credit extension assignment to help students move forward. Two students plagiarized the extra credit. It wasn't worth sending academic integrity violation paperwork up the chain, as I would not be supported sending it for an optional extra credit assignment that was not on the syllabus, so I just assigned a 0 grade (with clear explanation to the students) and moved on. One of the plagiarists emailed asking if they could re-do the extra credit for a better grade. No, just no.

* kicker? grad students

Yikes!

apl68

Quote from: evil_physics_witchcraft on May 31, 2023, 10:55:27 AM
Quote from: OneMoreYear on May 31, 2023, 09:29:03 AM
Ugh. I just can't with this group of students. I assigned a scaffolding assignment for the final project, and a good number of students biffed it, mostly due to not fully following directions. I offered a small-points optional extra credit extension assignment to help students move forward. Two students plagiarized the extra credit. It wasn't worth sending academic integrity violation paperwork up the chain, as I would not be supported sending it for an optional extra credit assignment that was not on the syllabus, so I just assigned a 0 grade (with clear explanation to the students) and moved on. One of the plagiarists emailed asking if they could re-do the extra credit for a better grade. No, just no.

* kicker? grad students

Yikes!

Yes!  A most discreditable way for aspiring future professionals to try earning credit.
And you will cry out on that day because of the king you have chosen for yourselves, and the Lord will not hear you on that day.

the_geneticist

One of my TAs has been autofilling the grade book with full credit for all assignments for all of their students.  They did not understand why that was a problem!